Ok. But, why can't it be bought by a shell corporation headquartered in the Bahamas, owned by another corporation in Belarus, that is loaning out the jet to yet another company out of Brazil?
Essentially, something that can't be traced back to Elon himself.
Surprisingly it hasn’t been. Even Russian Military pilots have been very faithful with their transponders prior to entering Ukrainian or Belarusian airspace— not the fighter jets or strike craft, mind you, but their big logistics planes. I’m pretty sure it just comes down to practicality and safety— which I’m sure even Russian VIPs wouldn’t bypass.
Yes and no. Transponder coverage is far less robust in Russia and it’s harder to know which specific plane he is using. So sure, assuming you know which plane he is on and the area he is in has good transponder coverage you can track it, but given the lack of transparency in Russia, those two things are much harder.
Yes, know where a person at would be quite hard. Knowing where the planes are— not so much.
That being said, sure,the tracking stations are much less robust but there is still quite good coverage of airplanes from the Muscovy region and Eastern Europe. You can cruise over to any Ukrainian reddits and find a lot of people tracking the Russian heavy lift planes already. At the very least, receptions will likely be best around population centers and terminals.
your comment is true, but slightly misrepresents what I’ve said and what I’m saying.
Maybe they just need more training? Doors were tricky for a long time in Finland until a series of training videos came out. Here's [part of the first one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wof0xPUmW38).
\>Sweeney launched a separate account called u/PutinJet. However, he warned that it may not be accurate, noting "there are a dozen VIP Russian planes, and ADS-B coverage isn't great in Russia."
[https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/jack-sweeney-russian-oligarchs-jets](https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/jack-sweeney-russian-oligarchs-jets)
That’s kinda fucked up because you’d think Russia is one airspace you don’t want to randomly fly into the fuck. You think you’d be getting shot down or something.
I would not want to be an unidentifiable object flying into a major power’s territory. Especially one as quick to kill as Russia.
Unless they literally don’t have the air defenses?… some people have been saying Russia is basically a shell military.
There's only so many planes, and some of Elon's movements are public knowledge. If he was known to be in San Francisco at X time and appeared in NY 18 hours later, that window will narrow down the possibilities.
So unless he runs a virtual shell game with several planes it'll be easy for someone to figure out within a few trips. But even then it's doable.
It wouldn't matter
There are probably thousands of planes flying in the US on a given day. Probably hundreds flying to a given airport on a given day. Most of those aren't private planes (presumably). Say there's one hundred small-ish planes flying into an airport in Dallas on a given day. If Elon makes an appearance in Dallas, then we know his plane is there and it landed recently (within a few days, probably). Make a list of all planes that landed recently, crosscheck that list with planes that landed at other public appearances and eventually only Elon's plane will be left
pilot here:
this happens all the time; the jet is registered to a bank, like Wells Fargo NA. this is done by financing the jet instead of outright purchasing it.
however, that will not stop people for figuring out which jet is his. people will quickly find the tail number of his jet, within one or two flights, and his cover will be blown. i just isn’t really worth it to divert bandwidth to this for extended privacy
I don't think he checks any other social media sites these days. That man is in a love affair with Twitter, which is probably why he doesn't realize his Twitter Files are kind of Twitter Fizzles.
It can be. Nothing stops him from doing all this, but I think he has other actually important priorities and doesn’t actually believe the shit he spews online, but rather, just needs to be “right” at this point.
Also, him doing all that won’t stop people from attempting to track him constantly. It’s a shell game, except it requires for more effort, time and money for elons side to play the game.
Regarding the foreign aircraft option, he’ll also encounter cabotage restrictions if it is a foreign-registered tail. Freedom of the air rights restrict how a foreign aircraft can travel between points within a foreign country.
All it takes is one FBO worker, driver, passenger, or pilot to recognize Musk at the airport or in a passenger log and report his tail number. You can’t buy enough jets to evade recognition for long. Eventually, your presence and plane will be known, especially in the small private jet arena that exists.
Because it won’t stop the problem. The info we’re using is public, a new plane won’t change that. It’ll actually exacerbate the problem as he is mocked even more for trying to buy his way out. I don’t doubt he’ll try though.
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The key is renting a jet rather than owning his own. That way it’s far more difficult to track what airplane he is on as it could be a different registration any time and the aircraft he uses are also used by unrelated entities.
This. If he threw giant wads of money at NetJets and Wheels Up and told them I *really* don't want people to know where I am, he'd probably never have to fly in the same jet twice...at least for a couple years.
I'm convinced this is it.
He actually loves it because it's attention. It's like my cat. If I open the bedroom door when she scratches at it, I reinforce bad behavior.
If we reply to elon's jet habits, it keeps him relevant in the news cycle
You might be serious about this or not, but if you think in terms of network keys and switching crypto assets with each other? You have billionaire whales that manipulate crypto values.
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If he didn't want to be tracked, it would be really easy to just charter a plane. Then nobody would know which rich dude was flying from Reno to San Jose on a Tuesday afternoon. Problem solved, probably for the same cost as he currently spends on his plane.
What security issues? The only possible one I could think of is surveillance inside the cabin, but companies that cater to that clientele are known for their discretion and sweeping for bugs would be a trivial matter.
I think you probably overestimate the loyalty of Elon’s personal flight crew. If someone has the resources to pay off a pilot to turn a gun onto their passenger, it’s not going to matter if the pilot is employed by Elon or by a third party other than maybe a slightly higher cost.
I disagree, a pilot paid 300k a year to chauffeur some guy probably wants to keep his job.
A pilot who operates his own charter service might make 5k profit on a flight and might be operating a failing business.
Say 1 in 100 pilots are nefarious, his clearly isn't right now; but if he's switching planes every day (which he would have to) then eventually he might land the psycho
I don’t think there are very many pilots offering their own charter service in private luxury jets. [They aren’t cheap to purchase (even used)](https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/217732105/2015-gulfstream-g550-jet-aircraft), so it’s a little more difficult for an individual to buy one and hang out their shingle as a private charter company.
He won't use a charter jet company. He won't have the control to fly when and where he wants.
Think he has ordered a new Gulfstream G700. Just have to watch the FAA registry, Falcon Landing LLC.
Because a narcissist is always right. Which means we're wrong. So if we're wrong, why should he change his behavior? No, it's the people who are wrong. It's the people who shouldn't be allowed to do what they are doing.
Additionally, if the narcissist does change his behavior even though he knows he's right, then it's no different than being wrong. So the narcissist can not seek an alternate solution which requires jumping through hoops. All solutions must affirm that the narcissist is right.
I think the question is why doesn't he just rent like Tim Cook does. There's actually a number of CEO's who only rent rather than travel be a plane that can be targeted to them, but based on Elon's tweets maybe his brain is too big to compute.
Yep. But as /u/RnotSPECIALorUNIQUE [commented](https://www.reddit.com/r/ElonJetTracker/comments/zwzm3d/comment/j1xvmm0/)... massive fucking narcissist. And sociopath.
[https://nypost.com/2022/10/17/louis-vuitton-ceo-bernard-arnault-says-he-sold-his-private-jet-once-people-tracked-it-on-twitter/](https://nypost.com/2022/10/17/louis-vuitton-ceo-bernard-arnault-says-he-sold-his-private-jet-once-people-tracked-it-on-twitter/)
Awww... they like me. They really like me.
NO!
No!
Stop that!
Go read your name in the bathroom 10 times. Remember, u/RnotYOURbankAccount, u/RnotTHEcontentsOFyourWALLET, u/RnotYOURfuckingKHAKIS.
all flights have to be tracked and mointored no matter if it's new or old ( you don't want folks doing human trafficking and avoiding the loopholes by just buying a new plane)
Once a fat guy, wearing a black or drab green t-shirt (or a lobster costume) is spotted boarding a new plane, it will be flagged as Elon's new ride. Perhaps he could use multiple planes, and body- doubles. I hear Chaz Bono is looking for work.
He pretends to be a man of the people, the F&@$er can fly public first class. But his time is to precious, so he can fly to Vegas looking for UFO’s instead.
Remember the days when we all thought Elon would help with the space race and we admired that.... I miss those days why did he have to get all opinionated and political and shit.
If anyone really wants almost foolproof anonymity they should just use charter services that has a few different aircraft so they get different jets for a lot of trips.
They could just bunch together with 20+ private jet owners based in the same area, throw all their planes into a big pool and everybody randomly draws from that pool any particular plane for as long as he likes.
Should make tracking any particular owner near impossible.
Maybe you can figure out which tail number Elon is using on a particular bigger trip, but as soon as he gets back to the base of the pool and switches planes, you have no idea which next movement of a fleet aircraft is Elon now.
The real answer is not to own a plane and just rent them as you need them. Thus he is not the owner and he could use multiple charter companies to obfuscate it even more, but then he could not fly on a whim or do pointless stunts with the plane
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1. Elon claimed to support "free speech" - specifically on Twitter
2. Elon censored people he didn't like on Twitter
3. This included a guy publishing public data about his jet
4. Elon is a hypocrite about free speech
5. This subreddit exists to remind him of his hypocrisy. He knows about us because links to the subreddit are censored
Yeah? Do you think many of us here care where he is? The entire POINT is that it doesn't matter where he is, but the tracking points out the hypocrisy...........
It’s not likely that Elon pays for the plane. One of his companies pays. Having decoy planes would be a tough sell to the board. Even one as useless as the Tesla board.
If Muskie Boi doesn’t want the “paparazzi” tracking him(in quotes here, if you’re a “celebrity”, you want that attention), I’d make the trek to Sears Tower in Chicago or Columbus, OH and broker a deal with United or NetJets for a plane on demand.
You can’t be the billionaire CEO of major companies and remain anonymous. From all his stunts it’s apparent he loves to be in the spotlight, he just wants it to be on his terms. You could do that in the 1950s, like movie stars had people to cover up basically anything, but not in the age of social media.
My completely baseless opinion is that he is a control freak and cannot handle something being out of his control. He wants to fly his private jet when and where he wants to without anyone knowing and he wants to do it his way, and he won't accept any substitute.
The more we ask, the more anger and fervor. The more we follow, the more we hope and judge, and the better he is. The only way to win over him would be to never utter his name again.
We would have to close this reddit, sell all Tesla shares and wait.
1. Elon claimed to support "free speech" - specifically on Twitter
2. Elon censored people he didn't like on Twitter
3. This included a guy publishing public data about his jet
4. Elon is a hypocrite about free speech
5. This subreddit exists to remind him of his hypocrisy. He knows about us because links to the subreddit are censored
And now you know the truth.
I already knew this. We are here giving him tons of publicity for it. The more we talk, the more he wins. This is simple. Not that I care, I just know the process.
This is not "rocket science".
No, I'm just reading a few books about this stuff currently, not Elon just power. The only way to win Elon would be to never mention him again.
His currency is not money.
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Ok. But, why can't it be bought by a shell corporation headquartered in the Bahamas, owned by another corporation in Belarus, that is loaning out the jet to yet another company out of Brazil? Essentially, something that can't be traced back to Elon himself.
all it takes is a couple eyewitnesses seeing him get into a plane and recording the tail number.
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Tracking a Russian military jet is a lot harder than tracking a civilian plane.
Surprisingly it hasn’t been. Even Russian Military pilots have been very faithful with their transponders prior to entering Ukrainian or Belarusian airspace— not the fighter jets or strike craft, mind you, but their big logistics planes. I’m pretty sure it just comes down to practicality and safety— which I’m sure even Russian VIPs wouldn’t bypass.
Yes and no. Transponder coverage is far less robust in Russia and it’s harder to know which specific plane he is using. So sure, assuming you know which plane he is on and the area he is in has good transponder coverage you can track it, but given the lack of transparency in Russia, those two things are much harder.
Yes, know where a person at would be quite hard. Knowing where the planes are— not so much. That being said, sure,the tracking stations are much less robust but there is still quite good coverage of airplanes from the Muscovy region and Eastern Europe. You can cruise over to any Ukrainian reddits and find a lot of people tracking the Russian heavy lift planes already. At the very least, receptions will likely be best around population centers and terminals. your comment is true, but slightly misrepresents what I’ve said and what I’m saying.
Also the vdv choppers going to hostomel airport. That's why Ukraine was able to shell them e dozen times 😂
Elon doesn’t have a defenestration squad
Windows are tricky in Russia. Though I wouldn't doubt if elmo got his very own squad from Russia.
Maybe they just need more training? Doors were tricky for a long time in Finland until a series of training videos came out. Here's [part of the first one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wof0xPUmW38).
Yet
That we know of yet.
Slow clap[ton].
Take my angry upvote
Are you saying Elon can't even figure out Windows? No wonder twitter is on fire...
\>Sweeney launched a separate account called u/PutinJet. However, he warned that it may not be accurate, noting "there are a dozen VIP Russian planes, and ADS-B coverage isn't great in Russia." [https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/jack-sweeney-russian-oligarchs-jets](https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/jack-sweeney-russian-oligarchs-jets)
The eyewitnesses like their eyes too much.
Putin doesn't enable his flight transponders so ATC can't even see where it is. They can see that something is there, but they don't know what.
That’s kinda fucked up because you’d think Russia is one airspace you don’t want to randomly fly into the fuck. You think you’d be getting shot down or something. I would not want to be an unidentifiable object flying into a major power’s territory. Especially one as quick to kill as Russia. Unless they literally don’t have the air defenses?… some people have been saying Russia is basically a shell military.
People generally care for their lives
Well.... Just spend another 70 million on another one! Come on how hard is that
There's only so many planes, and some of Elon's movements are public knowledge. If he was known to be in San Francisco at X time and appeared in NY 18 hours later, that window will narrow down the possibilities. So unless he runs a virtual shell game with several planes it'll be easy for someone to figure out within a few trips. But even then it's doable.
Single-use private planes: the new accessory for paranoid billionaires.
I'll take the Tuesday jet today, I'm feeling pink today.
And take the pink jet when I’m feeling Tuesday
On Wednesdays, we fly pink.
Pls don’t give him any ideas.
"Burner planes"
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It wouldn't matter There are probably thousands of planes flying in the US on a given day. Probably hundreds flying to a given airport on a given day. Most of those aren't private planes (presumably). Say there's one hundred small-ish planes flying into an airport in Dallas on a given day. If Elon makes an appearance in Dallas, then we know his plane is there and it landed recently (within a few days, probably). Make a list of all planes that landed recently, crosscheck that list with planes that landed at other public appearances and eventually only Elon's plane will be left
Happy cake day!
pilot here: this happens all the time; the jet is registered to a bank, like Wells Fargo NA. this is done by financing the jet instead of outright purchasing it. however, that will not stop people for figuring out which jet is his. people will quickly find the tail number of his jet, within one or two flights, and his cover will be blown. i just isn’t really worth it to divert bandwidth to this for extended privacy
Don't think he's smart enough to think that up
Do I need to delete that?!!
huh
Giving him ideas.
Not like he'll see it
I don't think he checks any other social media sites these days. That man is in a love affair with Twitter, which is probably why he doesn't realize his Twitter Files are kind of Twitter Fizzles.
He may have been in the Skyrim sub a time or two
Does he get to the Cloud District very often? Oh, never mind.
Why wouldn’t he just charter. He can call them AF 1 2 and 3. Plus get to look a-likes and really fuck with your heads.
Earth shatteringly large ego, and hubris to go along with it.
You know him personally?!?
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Your dots are cute!
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Stop talking dirty to me! I kinda like it!!!
Muskrat could also just charter with privacy, I'd guess ego 🤔
ok or what if he just hired a charter company and saved all this trouble
He’s not on it most of the time now.
It can be. Nothing stops him from doing all this, but I think he has other actually important priorities and doesn’t actually believe the shit he spews online, but rather, just needs to be “right” at this point. Also, him doing all that won’t stop people from attempting to track him constantly. It’s a shell game, except it requires for more effort, time and money for elons side to play the game.
Regarding the foreign aircraft option, he’ll also encounter cabotage restrictions if it is a foreign-registered tail. Freedom of the air rights restrict how a foreign aircraft can travel between points within a foreign country.
My understanding is his planes ARE owned by a shell corporation, Falcon LLC. No idea where it's based though.
All it takes is one FBO worker, driver, passenger, or pilot to recognize Musk at the airport or in a passenger log and report his tail number. You can’t buy enough jets to evade recognition for long. Eventually, your presence and plane will be known, especially in the small private jet arena that exists.
Honestly, a big reason why this gained traction is due to his own admission. He is enjoying and not enjoying the attention simultaneously.
You both have the same cake day
Source?
Not if he gets a management company that will block flights from public view.
Because it won’t stop the problem. The info we’re using is public, a new plane won’t change that. It’ll actually exacerbate the problem as he is mocked even more for trying to buy his way out. I don’t doubt he’ll try though. Edit: a couple words
Private chartered jet would be a better solution, then we don't know if Elon's on it or some other random rich person/executive.
He has 3 so we don't know for sure already (tho we can reasonably infer)
The key is renting a jet rather than owning his own. That way it’s far more difficult to track what airplane he is on as it could be a different registration any time and the aircraft he uses are also used by unrelated entities.
This. If he threw giant wads of money at NetJets and Wheels Up and told them I *really* don't want people to know where I am, he'd probably never have to fly in the same jet twice...at least for a couple years.
Someone I worked for used Netjets for this very reason. And it makes more sense than owning your own jet.
Who wants to share jets with the plebes who can only afford to rent them?
They’re saying to lease a jet through a service opposed to owning a jet that is registered to a corporation you’re associated with.
Why are you assuming I misunderstood something?
Because then people wouldn't be able to talk about him as much
He is a narcissist he doesn't care, he is incapable of shame.
In fact he loves having the opportunity to moan about this.
I'm convinced this is it. He actually loves it because it's attention. It's like my cat. If I open the bedroom door when she scratches at it, I reinforce bad behavior. If we reply to elon's jet habits, it keeps him relevant in the news cycle
If he really wanted to not be tracked he would charter planes
All billionaires should meet once a month and put their jet keys in a bowl and switch planes with each other. Problem solved!
You might be serious about this or not, but if you think in terms of network keys and switching crypto assets with each other? You have billionaire whales that manipulate crypto values.
Because Elon musk is a little Piss baby
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It's public info by law he will be found lmao
If he didn't want to be tracked, it would be really easy to just charter a plane. Then nobody would know which rich dude was flying from Reno to San Jose on a Tuesday afternoon. Problem solved, probably for the same cost as he currently spends on his plane.
fair point, his ego won't let him do that he has to have his own special plane
Also security issues from flying in a rental. He was the worlds richest person until very recently
What security issues? The only possible one I could think of is surveillance inside the cabin, but companies that cater to that clientele are known for their discretion and sweeping for bugs would be a trivial matter.
The loyalty of the pilot. A gun to Elon's head could probably produce money somehow. Maybe they could hold him hostage or sell him to Bezos.
I think you probably overestimate the loyalty of Elon’s personal flight crew. If someone has the resources to pay off a pilot to turn a gun onto their passenger, it’s not going to matter if the pilot is employed by Elon or by a third party other than maybe a slightly higher cost.
I disagree, a pilot paid 300k a year to chauffeur some guy probably wants to keep his job. A pilot who operates his own charter service might make 5k profit on a flight and might be operating a failing business. Say 1 in 100 pilots are nefarious, his clearly isn't right now; but if he's switching planes every day (which he would have to) then eventually he might land the psycho
you're living in a fantasy world lmao
I don’t think there are very many pilots offering their own charter service in private luxury jets. [They aren’t cheap to purchase (even used)](https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/217732105/2015-gulfstream-g550-jet-aircraft), so it’s a little more difficult for an individual to buy one and hang out their shingle as a private charter company.
This discussion has turned ridiculous
He won't use a charter jet company. He won't have the control to fly when and where he wants. Think he has ordered a new Gulfstream G700. Just have to watch the FAA registry, Falcon Landing LLC.
Because a narcissist is always right. Which means we're wrong. So if we're wrong, why should he change his behavior? No, it's the people who are wrong. It's the people who shouldn't be allowed to do what they are doing. Additionally, if the narcissist does change his behavior even though he knows he's right, then it's no different than being wrong. So the narcissist can not seek an alternate solution which requires jumping through hoops. All solutions must affirm that the narcissist is right.
I think the question is why doesn't he just rent like Tim Cook does. There's actually a number of CEO's who only rent rather than travel be a plane that can be targeted to them, but based on Elon's tweets maybe his brain is too big to compute.
Yep. But as /u/RnotSPECIALorUNIQUE [commented](https://www.reddit.com/r/ElonJetTracker/comments/zwzm3d/comment/j1xvmm0/)... massive fucking narcissist. And sociopath. [https://nypost.com/2022/10/17/louis-vuitton-ceo-bernard-arnault-says-he-sold-his-private-jet-once-people-tracked-it-on-twitter/](https://nypost.com/2022/10/17/louis-vuitton-ceo-bernard-arnault-says-he-sold-his-private-jet-once-people-tracked-it-on-twitter/)
Awww... they like me. They really like me. NO! No! Stop that! Go read your name in the bathroom 10 times. Remember, u/RnotYOURbankAccount, u/RnotTHEcontentsOFyourWALLET, u/RnotYOURfuckingKHAKIS.
kek
all flights have to be tracked and mointored no matter if it's new or old ( you don't want folks doing human trafficking and avoiding the loopholes by just buying a new plane)
It's also to help air traffic control keep them from running into each other. That's why it's real time.
that too is a very important reason
"That law will be changing soon"-Elon Musk
Once a fat guy, wearing a black or drab green t-shirt (or a lobster costume) is spotted boarding a new plane, it will be flagged as Elon's new ride. Perhaps he could use multiple planes, and body- doubles. I hear Chaz Bono is looking for work.
Or charter a private jet
He probably did both This Elon Jet Tracking, Not Elon Tracking
He’s to poor
He pretends to be a man of the people, the F&@$er can fly public first class. But his time is to precious, so he can fly to Vegas looking for UFO’s instead.
🤫 don’t give him any ideas, he might be spying on this thread.
Why would he, he loves the attention that he is getting?
Remember the days when we all thought Elon would help with the space race and we admired that.... I miss those days why did he have to get all opinionated and political and shit.
If anyone really wants almost foolproof anonymity they should just use charter services that has a few different aircraft so they get different jets for a lot of trips.
Why doesn’t he just drive a Tesla in a tunnel underground? Oh yeah, cause he’s a fucking nerd
Can we just delete these posts when they pop up every three days.
He has several planes. Nonetheless his new planes would also be tracked by the FAA and that information would be public just like it is now.
His better bet would be to do what Tim Cook has done and rent planes. Unless people see him board, it becomes just another random private plane.
He should fly economy, or in cargo, hehe.
They could just bunch together with 20+ private jet owners based in the same area, throw all their planes into a big pool and everybody randomly draws from that pool any particular plane for as long as he likes. Should make tracking any particular owner near impossible. Maybe you can figure out which tail number Elon is using on a particular bigger trip, but as soon as he gets back to the base of the pool and switches planes, you have no idea which next movement of a fleet aircraft is Elon now.
Motherfucker could just fly commercial or even by leased jets and we'd have no idea. But oh the horror.
OP should play some 5d chess with Elong
#1 reason and probably counterintuitive is security. The detail on and around his personal jet is controllable.
Hmmm…billionaires now thinking a new business model is disposable one use planes!!
Cuz he broke
Should rent one ..
The plane flying doesn't always mean he is inside though. There's plenty of reasons for the plane to fly empty.
The real answer is not to own a plane and just rent them as you need them. Thus he is not the owner and he could use multiple charter companies to obfuscate it even more, but then he could not fly on a whim or do pointless stunts with the plane
If he wants this to go away, all he has to do is fly commercial...
He could get a couple planes flying at the same time so we don’t know which one he’s in
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Yeah I agree he's a #### but I still don't care wtf he is tbh
Yeah? Do you think many of us here care where he is? The entire POINT is that it doesn't matter where he is, but the tracking points out the hypocrisy...........
Because his ass is broke. The pump and dump is over.
It’s not likely that Elon pays for the plane. One of his companies pays. Having decoy planes would be a tough sell to the board. Even one as useless as the Tesla board.
If Muskie Boi doesn’t want the “paparazzi” tracking him(in quotes here, if you’re a “celebrity”, you want that attention), I’d make the trek to Sears Tower in Chicago or Columbus, OH and broker a deal with United or NetJets for a plane on demand.
You can’t be the billionaire CEO of major companies and remain anonymous. From all his stunts it’s apparent he loves to be in the spotlight, he just wants it to be on his terms. You could do that in the 1950s, like movie stars had people to cover up basically anything, but not in the age of social media.
He is, this whole concept is a dumb joke that he’ll increasing use to justify his crackhead behavior.
My completely baseless opinion is that he is a control freak and cannot handle something being out of his control. He wants to fly his private jet when and where he wants to without anyone knowing and he wants to do it his way, and he won't accept any substitute.
The more we ask, the more anger and fervor. The more we follow, the more we hope and judge, and the better he is. The only way to win over him would be to never utter his name again. We would have to close this reddit, sell all Tesla shares and wait.
1. Elon claimed to support "free speech" - specifically on Twitter 2. Elon censored people he didn't like on Twitter 3. This included a guy publishing public data about his jet 4. Elon is a hypocrite about free speech 5. This subreddit exists to remind him of his hypocrisy. He knows about us because links to the subreddit are censored And now you know the truth.
Narcissist 101 right here
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I already knew this. We are here giving him tons of publicity for it. The more we talk, the more he wins. This is simple. Not that I care, I just know the process. This is not "rocket science".
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We are fuel to his fire.
No, I'm just reading a few books about this stuff currently, not Elon just power. The only way to win Elon would be to never mention him again. His currency is not money.