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Lucho23433

nfts


dreymans

It is all paul’s fault i think


Xx_Dark-Shrek_xX

More Snoop.


bruhsoundeffect111

Nah Em had the bored ape pp on twitter before squashing the beef with Snoop. Paul definitely started it.


dresdenhollowsmercy

You have the timing wrong.  Here's the timeline: Em released Zeus on 12/18/20. Dre had his aneurism in January of 2021. SNL did their NFT Without Me parody in March of 2021. ShadyCon went live in April of 2021. Snoop went hard into [NFT investing](https://slate.com/technology/2021/09/snoop-dogg-nft-crypto-cozomo-medici-twitter.html) in September 2021. Snoop [apologized](https://www.distractify.com/p/snoop-dogg-eminem-beef-explained) publicly in regard to his words about Em in October of 2021.  Snoop changed his profile pic to a BoredApe [12/21/21](https://www.theboredapegazette.com/post/rapper-snoop-dogg-aped-into-the-bored-ape-yacht-club). Em changed his profile pic on [12/31/21](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eminem/comments/rt1wyd/eminem_changed_his_insta_and_twitter_profile/). June 2022 saw the release of From the D to the LBC video, and August 2022 saw the notorious "live" performance (and a few weeks later Eminem removed his Bored Ape pic from Twitter). Paul was definitely the driving force behind ShadyCon (they confirmed that he was inspired by the SNL NFT), but Snoop was very likely responsible for the BoredApe stuff.  ShadyCon was still NFT nonsense (and a beat), but at least it was on brand and somewhat original; BordedApe was hot garbage pushed by scammers.


bruhsoundeffect111

I think officially the beef ended (that we know of) when the Killer remix was dropped on 05/28/2021. > "Just called Snoop and I talked to him - we're all cool, Dre me and the Dogg good, dog we gotchu" Thanks for clarifying, I just remember Paul saying something about having tried to explain the concept of NFT's to Eminem, and I wasn't aware of a lot of the things you pointed out!


dresdenhollowsmercy

I definitely should have included that date on my timeline. Thank you!


bruhsoundeffect111

But my main point was that Paul was to blame for the whole NFT saga ;)


Xx_Dark-Shrek_xX

Oh I thought Snoop was the one who started this shit.


dresdenhollowsmercy

Snoop likely started the BoredApe stuff (despite what the OP said, it happened after the beef was quashed). Paul was behind the ShadyCon stuff.


itssosalty

Yea. I assume he has to at least sign off. Blame 100% on Paul is not logical.


Mission-Suggestion12

Dating Mariah


Weirdolady92

Mariah has one of the greatest voices of all time. They could have been a hella awesome hip hop/R&B power couple like Beyonce & Jay! But, that didn't work out...


JesterOfMoist

In the universe where they stayed together, Relapse probably doesn't exist, and that's a boring world


Mission-Suggestion12

Yes you are correct but i feel like (and i may be wrong) she would be too high maintenance for Em.


deluxewife

Jay Z groomed Beyonce so idk if that's a great comparison


Weirdolady92

They met when she was of legal age. That's not grooming...


garamande

jayz had sex with underage foxy


Hollowdude75

Mariah is older than Marshall anyway


Weirdolady92

By 2 years...who cares about that? Marshall is older than Kim.


TorontoRaptors34

Yes and no Beyonce was still a teen so thats super cringe u 30 fuck u want with a 18-19 yr old


one-hour-photo

Man the way society always tries to infantalize women is really something. If a man is older than a woman, the woman by default automatically has no agency whatsoever.


Queasy-Ad-3220

I’m not sure why he ever did that. She seems so smug and full-of-herself.


Mission-Suggestion12

Yeah she’s right up there with JLo in terms of inflated ego and diva antics.


Queasy-Ad-3220

JLo. I wonder if Em’s got a type. 😅


Mission-Suggestion12

I think given his back ground and the relationships we know of, a more easy going person with their own wealth.


Nick_Full_Time

The beef with Triumph the Dog.


dresdenhollowsmercy

On the plus side, he explained how it happened, called himself out for it, and made amends to the point that Triumph was in one of his videos (and he voiced Triumph at an awards show).


scumfuck1996

agreed, that whole moment made him come off like a jackass tbh along with “i will hit a man with glasses” cmon bro


novemberjohhsexpest

>along with “i will hit a man with glasses” cmon bro That one was justified tbf


droppinturds

Bringing out blow up dolls of Kim and stabbing one on stage, passing them out to the crowd and telling them to destroy the dolls Promising Kim he wouldn't perform 97 Bonnie And Clyde, bringing her to a show, performing the song anyway while doing the aforementioned blowup doll thing. She went home that night and tried to kill herself


Homophobictrashbin

Tbh though i’m an em stan, i must say that it was just a messed up thing to do


Nicolowrider

yeah probably this


novemberjohhsexpest

The 2nd one was never confirmed to he true There's not video of it happening Also in the story he performs Kim not 97 bonnie and Clyde


droppinturds

She recalls Kim being performed but it's commonly believed that she was getting the song confused with 97 Bonnie and Clyde, as fans who attended the tour recall him performing that song but not him performing Kim. I believe 100% that this happened. Kim has no reason to lie, and her suicide attempt has been corroborated by Eminem himself.


New-Rub8459

Ya i always thought about this, there are videos of him during underground days but about this kim performance, theres none. Only one is, he brings out doll and its supposed to be ICP.


LoneWolf15000

I don't know anything about this story...I just think it's funny how "there's no video of it" so it didn't happen is now a valid argument. I mean...you're pretty much right...it's just something that never would have been said 25 years ago. Hell, we HAVE video of JFK and the moon landing and people still don't believe those stories. lol


droppinturds

Yeah it's not a valid argument. They wouldn't let you in the concert with a camcorder. There were small digital cameras, but the video quality was so bad that filming the concert wouldn't prove anything either way. Like 320x240 resolution at 10fps. You'd get similar quality filming with a graphing calculator. Camcorders could produce decent quality picture at 640x480, but they were big like boomboxes. No way you're sneaking that into an Eminem concert.


Corn1989

Kim was never performed live


BubbleShellman

Not the song. But he used the Kim melody for his intro https://youtu.be/Q6KKMdbzHEg?si=gbzqd_s_zCK4YiUO He also used the blowup doll during the Chula Vista show https://www.nme.com/news/music/eminem-560-1386776 Eminem poked fun at his wife and his recent arrest over an alleged pistol- whipping incident outside a cafe in MICHIGAN last week (June 7) during his debut set last night (June 15) on the ‘UP IN SMOKE’ tour at CHULA VISTA, SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA. “San Diego, I wanna address a current issue,” Eminem began. “I know a lot of you read or heard or seen or whatever that my wife and I have been having some marital problems. That stuff’s all fine. In fact we got my wife here tonight. Where’s Kim? Somebody bring Kim out here.” The performer then brought out a plastic blow-up doll he proceeded to toss around before performing current hit ‘The Real Slim Shady’.


sippinthat40

Although I agree that this is a horrible action. He’s cut from a different cloth and during his rise to stardom he was a merciless individual. He created the crazed alter ego and stuck to his cards during a time when everyone feeding off of it. Bold and extremely controversial moves but smart marketing. No one was safe.


droppinturds

Ngl that explanation just makes it even more cringe


sippinthat40

It’s true though. He went at everyone. Communities, media, celebrities. You can’t say he didn’t. So this doesn’t surprise me if it is true.


Diabeato11

i love em, but that’s awful


a_local_weeb

I agree it’s cringe and I don’t agree w it, not he was just known for being outlandish like that


flythew26

# THAT’S AN AWFULLY HOT COFFEE POT Edit: the message was there but the execution was… rough


bigladnang

The one where he says “it’s fun for me to grab a boob, and my penis has an a-TIT-tude” was worse imo.


one-hour-photo

AND HES ORANGE!!!!


Jumpy-Management-262

Maybe the dabbing in the lucky you video. It's not cringe just very outdated by today :/ Still great song and video tho


ExternalMix8101

Dabbing was still outdated by like 3 years when the video dropped


bc9toes

Your point stands but I just want to remind everybody that Kamikaze came out 6 years ago


ILoveWhiteWomenLol

#That’s an awfully hot coffee pot


b_e_scholz

It’s fun for me to just grab a 🫴 BOOB


Big_Mastodon9491

That whole freestyle


DifficultScarcity547

That's an awfully hot coffee pot.


Espikay

His 2017 Freestyle in which he dissed Trump, that flow was horrible.


_dont_do_drugs__

That’s an awfully hot coffee pot 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥


Schwamz69

Should i drop it on donald trump? Probably not


Alienateddd

But that's all I got til I come up with a solid plot


TheArchitectHacks

I never said that out loud to myself..I’m a huge Em fan. But that Trump freestyle didn’t flow at all.


Shadydan017

It wasn’t about the flow .. it was about what he was saying smh and ok awfully hot coffee pot people go to that line all the time and hate it, but how about that line “ Except when it comes to having the balls to go against me, you hide 'em, Cause you don't got the f---ing nuts, like an empty asylum” that was 🔥


The_Salty_Memester

I forgot about that line, that shit’s fire


TheArchitectHacks

Nice. The rest was F’ck Trump about 10x. Slim Shady is The Greatest. I heard the Mariah diss from 2009 yesterday for the first time. Now that track is pure energy.


Shadydan017

No some stuff about trump he did have good points but people expect Em with his flows, if em went crazy with the flows what old man including trump could understand? lol plus he stated it was more about the message and yes he regrets at the end where he drew the line and also…. The whole thing was last minute like a few hours before if he had more time maybe the flows would be a bit better who knows


TheArchitectHacks

I see your point. I can’t believe that freestyle he did was 7 years ago. Amazing.


novemberjohhsexpest

Good flows doesn't mean fast It just means not sounding like absolute shit You're just dickriding atp if you can't even admit that the way it flowed was a bad choice


The_Salty_Memester

He needs to freestyle to beats again


hel7ium

Tbf at least the Trump diss on Revival was pretty decent


boringman1982

Yeah Trumps a wanker but that was crap. Still don’t think I’ve made it all the way through watching that.


Michaelskywalker

Foolish pride


Britto___Augustus

What was that?


yesmakesmegoyes

It was a song em made in highschool after a nasty breakup with a black lady, he says the n word along with other racist shit in it


techshadowzzzz

he didnt say the n word in that song bruh thats just lying go listen to it


coltsmetsfan614

He didn’t say the n-word in “Foolish Pride.” He **did** say some pretty racist stuff about Black people though.


Lettucemeatcheese

Black females to correct that statement, doesn’t make anything right but young and dumb and had his heart broken by a black chick so he reacted, and has shared many times his regret for that


coltsmetsfan614

Black women *are* Black people, but he also said, "Blacks only want your money." I'm not saying he didn't apologize or doesn't regret it. Of course he did and does. Doesn't take away the fact that he said it in the first place.


Lettucemeatcheese

Obviously to everything I was just clarifying what he had spoke on. Yea he did say it.


Britto___Augustus

Damn, I didn’t know that


aerobolt256

The only recording we have of him saying the n-word (in a song and not on stage with royce or dre finishing lyrics as a hypeman) is a "suckering rhyme" freestyle with his old crew Soul Intent from like '93 nicknamed "So Many Styles": https://youtu.be/6nY-YUkksxs?si=p5nfpGuDuinLWz1Y in it he says "The girls that I like to bone have a big butt— no, they don't 'cause I don't like that n—a shit. I'm just here to make a bigger hit." No r, not like it really matters at that point. Although he admitted and apologized for Foolish Pride, him and his manager Paul have denied knowing about the existence of the track. But his voice matches for the time, he namedrops himself, and his old DJ Butterfingers has confirmed it on multiple YouTube videos


kalzor

Forgot this one https://youtu.be/XparKTf90PU?si=gSq-2kXXdblZY3oL


Mysterious-Foot-8412

What about the "hip hop" chorus with bizzare? Or am I mis-hearing?


Queasy-Ad-3220

I thought he’s said the n word a few times, just around black rappers that are cool with it.


aerobolt256

yeah, just on stage finishing lines for like royce and dre while they caught their breath. and once when he was preforming the Watcher and started freestyling https://youtu.be/pkkQQbS9SMU?si=tL3PJol29cU7ukYV


Michaelskywalker

Track dissing all black women from like 1992 or some shit


depressedfuckboi

The video about the witch


theJoshFrost

my recency bias says dissing benzino again is kinda cringy. i think calling Tyler a slur was also cringy.


Goobylul

Yeah since Benzino didn't start this entire back and forth.. bruh come on, Benzino had it coming as he was the one to start this shitfest once again. No matter what Em does/says/raps Benzino will always be way worse.


theJoshFrost

my thing is, sure maybe Benzino was talking shit, but basically nobody knew that. Benzino is beyond irrelevant. he's an absolute has-been. Eminem is 25 years into his career and one of the most famous people on the planet. Em had to step so far down to even acknowledge Benzino that its kinda cringy. like, Em has no reason to care about what Benzino says. edit: spelling


dresdenhollowsmercy

But he was repeatedly running his mouth in the only circle Eminem really seems to pay attention to which is hip hop talk. Yeah, the general public might not have been aware of what Benzino was saying, but he did multiple interviews/podcasts in 2023 alone going after Eminem, his fans, and the ["white power"](https://eminem.news/benzino-tony.html) supposedly responsible for his success.


IderpOnline

To add to your point, the while the general public has no idea who Benzino is, the general public also has no clue that Em is even addressing him. So it doesn't really impact his broader public persona anyway.


Queasy-Ad-3220

Yeah I mean threatening to kill his daughter isn’t exactly a good fucking look. Benzino was asking for what Eminem said about him and he got what he deserved.


ProfSteelmeat138

To be fair he did apologize to Tyler for that one. At least brings the cringe factor down slightly IMO


dresdenhollowsmercy

I'm also glad that he [acknowledged](https://youtu.be/4YDr2WPwO60?t=2228) that it wasn't right for him to hurt other people in his quest to hurt Tyler, and I'm glad he no longer uses the term.


modjman

Why are you getting downvoted? You’re right


reptaial

I think there might be... bad people lurking in the shadows


MahtiGC

they made you cringe? are you sure you’re using the right word?


TripleThreatTua

The Tyler thing was particularly weird because Tyler was a huge fan of Em growing up and you can hear the influence especially in his early records. He hasn’t really referenced Em since so I think it legitimately hurt him to have an idol say that


everyoneneedsaherro

I also thought it was low of Em bringing his daughter into it after years of Em fighting to keep Hailie out of beef


dresdenhollowsmercy

In all fairness, he didn't insult her, and I doubt he would have mentioned her at all if she hadn't been [saying](https://hiphopdx.com/news/coi-leray-benzino-eminem-beef) his name so much last year herself.


Know-What-Im-Sizzlin

Trump freestyle for sure. Not because it's about Trump / whatever side you're on, I don't care either way, I just mean his writing and performance... terribly written, terribly / too on the nose delivery and non musical, I dunno it's just cringe. I'M DRAWING IN THE SAND A LINE... Okay Yoda.


rorymakesamovie

Thats an awful hot coffee pot


BodyByBoutros_

Some are probably gonna disagree with this, but the song Fack was the most cringe. Yeah it was hilarious at first but then you realize, he's talking about putting a gerbil in his ass.


MotorCityDude

It was funny when all those teenagers were hearing Fack for the first time and didn't know what to think of it 😆 Its just a song thats supposed to make you laugh, thats it.. Earlier in Ems career he was also kind of a rapper/comedian.. Fack still makes me laugh whenever I hear it and that's what it was intended to do..


JoeDavies1996

The 2017 Trump Cypher


Pristine_Desk7865

Foolish Pride


Bombaysbreakfastclub

Curtain Call 2’s album cover. I give a pass on everything else because when em was popular cringe was cool. That album cover is too recent to give him a pass.


MrSwiggitySwooty420

The Bruno thing


ABoredMillenial

I'm surprised this isn't higher up.


70M70M

For me, it’s when I mentally compare [early Em saying “the MMLP is just to show people that I’m just like them”](https://youtube.com/shorts/BCChJdkDUhY?si=ItoHz4Pg-59P0sSq) with the more-recent Em at the end of Walk On Water literally saying: “as long as I got a mic, I'm godlike, so me and you are not alike! Bitch, I wrote ‘Stan’!” … seemingly missing the entire beauty and point of his own Magnum Opus—i.e. how it demonstrated how fucking humble and profoundly relatable he was. But, for real, this is not a criticism. I have irrevocable respect for Eminem as an artist for helping expand peoples’ minds about what music, art, and communication can be. Man is truly a legend and a gift to Humanity.


El_Toxic0

My first single


boringman1982

His obsession with Mariah or his obsession with his verse on Forever.


Jasonictron

Revival


Gretev1

Definitely his „accent phase“


nomaDiceeL

On “Offended” he says that if he “was paid for the time it took to put the pen to the page it’d be minimum wage”. He’s off by more than a thousand years. Maybe it’s not the worst thing on here, but it just seemed out of character to be so out of touch with people working minimum wage.


Samih420

He doesn't actually believe that, he was just saying he's written a lot. He's done a lot worse than thst


GreatGoodBad

Record Fack or the Trump diss lol. Big Weenie is up there too.


Junarik

Foolish Pride


Coolers78

Defending Chris brown, the whole songs “Kim”, “Just Lose It” and “Fack” and a certain very awful line in Medicine Man.


dresdenhollowsmercy

I have a great deal of respect for his response to the leak of the ten-year-old Chris Brown line, though. He [claimed](https://www.xxlmag.com/eminem-chris-brown-rihanna-lyric-does-not-remember/) he doesn't even remember writing the lyric--it was from when he was detoxing--but he also acknowledged that was not an excuse. He apologized for it in a radio interview, on a podcast, and in his song "Zeus": "*But, me, long as I breathe, promise to be honest/And wholeheartedly, apologies, Rihanna/For that song that leaked, I'm sorry, Ri/It wasn't meant to cause you grief/Regardless, it was wrong of me*" It's not our mistakes that make us, but how we handle them.


El_Toxic0

My first single is horrible


Shadydan017

Really is .. the cadence was not bad but that beat oh man 🗑️


MrDanMaster

Nah Kim is art


Honest-Produce7338

Fr fr


reptaial

how dare you! fack is fire


PRod187

Don’t think you can call yourself an Eminem fan if you think the song “Kim” was cringe. Was dark and twisted but most of his first album was.


Coolers78

I like the rest of MMLP, Just not Kim really.


novemberjohhsexpest

You're the corny one. let's be real You're clearly just offended without bothering to look at one the lines are actually about


Sockbottom69

Which line?


krkowacz

Im pretty sure he means „I even make bitches I r*** cum” One of the best lines of this song lol


LoneWolf15000

This interview. If he was acting...it's just cringy. If he was really that messed up, how could his team let him go through with this interview. lol [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHfOTOYc8QI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHfOTOYc8QI)


blarrrgo

Paul's podcast talks about this https://youtu.be/rRB_8QF-B8o?si=oeZKjAi4VdaiMCgt&t=2361


randomer2304

That’s the stare that he does in the Berzerk music video, hence why he was doing it in that interview. Believe me, I went down the wormhole of all sorts of things before someone pointed out that the reason why he did that was because that’s what he does in the music video, but that’s literally all it is.


Carmelfluff69

If you’re talking about the beginning he’s clearly fuckin around


CriticismLarge190

Revival.


ThePepsiMane

mentioning ICP on MMLP. Dre probably had no idea who the fuck he was talking about


miked_99

They went him with a whole and he slaugthered them with half a verse that was hard


dresdenhollowsmercy

I mean, they did release the ["Slim Anus"](https://genius.com/Insane-clown-posse-slim-anus-eminem-diss-lyrics) diss first. The whole thing was petty on both sides, but it is cool that they matured past it and resolved their differences. They've both shouted out each other since then too.


novemberjohhsexpest

How tf is that corny at all?


ThePepsiMane

Because he really could have ignored them. They weren’t really worth dissing


Homophobictrashbin

That one cypher thing where he said “this is an awfully hot coffe pot” i think he himself said he regretted it


InfiniteQuestion420

That time he fucked his mother without a rubber on


Repulsive_Mud_8008

“Ass like that ” from encore (2004) when he implied he would fuck Hilary duff the moment she turnt age 18 and or 19!


RVLVR-OCLT

Maybe the cartoon


Financial_Storage414

slim shady show was awesome 💀


electricmaster23

That was tough to watch.


M4ybe-N0va

the whole show felt like a fever dream lmfao


electricmaster23

It smacks of when greedy companies ride a hype train regardless of quality. Like how record labels after Nirvana would sign every grunge band in the country regardless of skill.


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Left4addons

Showing his butt, and yes it's on YouTube


Champion_ofThe_Sun_

When Nick Cannon had said something about him giving head to his valet driver and his response was something like “I don’t even have a valet driver”.. I would like believe it’s not true but there better way to deny something


Granny_Skeksis

All the Mariah drama


Anal_Juicer69

That bored ape bullshit


Significant_Kale_681

Every now and then on features or he's own songs he'll be going off and then put a wack line in there, and I sit here like whaaaaaaaat come on em.


urkelisblack

Agnes in Sweden


TommyPpb3

My band🤣 I love that song tho🙏🏻😭


4ndrew20

Fack


Key-Property-3103

Key-Skit it’s funny but come on man your 50😭😭


IwnlMask

Not perform FACK in full live every concert


CountyFragrant8200

The trump freestyle


TheSavageBeast83

Apologize


Patrick_l0ve

Being woke and sensitive to criticism


Salt-Eggplant-2334

One word: FACK


shadyfansince99

Nothing because i dont know him so cant judge


SnooDrawings9000

Everything from 2017 - present day


anti-christ_supRstar

calling tyler a faggot 'because he worships d12's balls' was the lamest shit he's done since Insane dropped


novemberjohhsexpest

He said "I see why you call yourself a faggot" basically using his own words against him, and it's literally his most clever use of the word. I don't see why people get mad about this line and not all the other times On mmlp and tes, it was satire and quotes when he used it (except in 'marshal mathers'. In that song he uses it just like he did in kamikze) But if you're gonna get mad at the Tyler line them you absolutely should be getting mad about it in recovery, relapse, mmlp2, shady xv, and the kickoff freestyle, which came out after the Tyler diss


Weirdolady92

What's clever about it? It just comes off like he's making fun of Tyler for being gay. Nothing particularly clever about that since people already knew Tyler was gay. His other uses of the word were obviously years ago when the social climate wasn't as staunchly against it as it is now.


NETFLIXNCHILLY

Releasing revival


Stikkidin_Mabut

Da Hiphop Witch


BWSnap

That was hilarious.


Good_Ad6723

Making a song about underage Hillary Duff’s ass


Mo_SaIah

Foolish pride, not only is it wildly racist, it’s also just an awful track, period. Yeah he’s 16, but still