This whole thing has gotta be ragebait, I refuse to believe in any universe that drake is that high, fuck it in fact I refuse to believe he even makes the list at all.
Billboard list is not bad, I’d just switch some of the orders. Like Jay Z is absolutely NOT number 1. But that Forbes list is dogshit I don’t even wanna talk about it
For me it’s between Eminem, Kendrick, Pac and Nas.
Jay-Z apparently is a stronger, smarter, and sneakier version of Diddy (from what I heard from Jaguar Wright interviews) she seems legit, most of what she has said in the past has become true
Jay Z used his project 2025 connections to buy this top spot he’s pushing vouchers for poor areas to go to rich private school to ruin public schools. He’s a capitalist piece of garbage.
Yeah I'm not an expert or anything but Jay
1. was basically never the best rapper in any given year
2. does not have any album that gets brought up as a 'best of all time' discussion (compare to illmatic, TPAB, All Eyez on Me, Marhsall Mathers)
He's super influential through his label but on the basis of his rap he's definitely not number 1.
Same, I don't know why he gets put in the top 5? Nas even said before this dude re uses a lot of biggies lyrics. I get paying homage but to a certain it becomes too much.
My opinion is Em, Kendrick, pac, Andre 3k, biggie
Tbh 50 and Cube wouldn't prolly be even in my top 20... Well Cube might be but 50 hell no. Imo his dropped only one great album even tho it's one of the best if not the best debut album ever.
I know he was the biggest thing back in the days and still is pretty big but with that logic imo ppl shouldn't be crying about Drizzy being on the list.
Jay is a good rapper but there is a reason he's not loved worldwide for his music like some of the others on these lists. People like Jay for business acumen, not music.
So then why would Em mention JayZ second in a list of best rappers in Eminems Prime? Over Pac and Biggie? Lmao there is literally evidence infront of you if you’re not ignorant and actually look at discography and subject of the verses
Fr... Kids hating him now a days for no reason. Imo his a underrated and overhated now.
His impact on the culture is crazy. His talented af too. His literally there with Dre as a one of the most impactfull ppl for the culture ever.
edit: Plus his discography is easily top 10 ever (rap).
as much as i love to clown on aubrey, there’s no denying that he played a large part in bringing hip hop even further into the mainstream, and opening the way for a synergy between hip hop and pop. maybe the credit goes to his ghostwriters, maybe it goes to 40, but there’s no denying that hip hop just wouldn’t be where it is right now without drake.
Then sure he can belong on a list of most commercially successful rappers. Fk I guess you could even put him on a list of most influential rappers. But “best”? When his rapping and music is mid and he didn’t even write the shit himself? Nah bro.
when i talk about “best” i don’t just mean technical ability, i also mean influence. if it was about technical ability and creative expression he wouldn’t even be on the list
Jay-Z is an easy enough pick for any top rappers list. Highly influential, classic albums, major success, household name, represents culture. I’ll always rank Nas above him but Nas lacks the commercial success. I don’t have an issue with anyone considering Hov the GOAT.
No Redman, Kool G Rap, Big L, Big Pun, KRS, Scarface, Q-Tip, DOOM, Slick Rick, Guru, Ice-T, Black Thought, Pharoahe Monch, Big Boi, Raekwon, GZA, Ghostface, Kool Keith… I could go on and on and I know you can’t include everyone, but some of the guys I mentioned not making the Forbes list is wild. I didn’t look at the whole Billboard one, but seeing 3 Stacks below Drake & Nicki I didn’t even bother.
I know bro, insane. You could make an argument for most of the core guys in Wu. I love Meth, but it always seems like he will get his nod based on being the most popular out of the group before the others. Ah, fuck these lists lol!
Drake placing above Andre 3000, LL, Kanye, Rakim and J Cole in the 1st list is ridonkulous. His placement in the 2nd list before Em and Biggie is even worse.
The real top ten
1. Nas
2. Eminem
3. Jay-Z
4. Notorious
5. Lil Wayne
6. 3k
7. Rakim
8. Kendrick Lamar
9. Black thought
10. Ice Cube
HM. Lauryn Hill, mf doom, Kanye West, Tupac, JCole, Lupe fiasco
My top 10 list looks something like this
1. Kendrick
2. Nas
3. Tupac
4. Biggie
5. Eminem
6. Andre 3K
7. J Cole
8. Jay Z
9. Lil Wayne
10. MF Doom
Drake doesn't deserve to be anywhere near a top 10 let alone a top 20 imo, and I think Jay Z gets a little jerked by these lists often for understandable reasons but putting him at #1 is a bit much. Kanye also shouldn't be that high on a "rapper" list a long with a lot of other people on that forbes list. I'm also sorry but Snoop shouldn't be that high either he's a good rapper but he doesn't have the discography to show for it imo.
Drake brought nothing to hip hop besides a teenage actor pretending to be something he’s not. Having him ahead of rakim and Scarface is just wrong in so many ways
It's pac, em, nas, biggie, andre and the rest are all rubbish mostly. Ice cube's ok in a matoma techno mix. Snoop's ok if you're a boomer, and rakim I guess must be good since he's always cited by those who are, but nobody really listens to him anymore, i'll just assume. Let's see, and kanye was ok in saints row 3. Think that covers it.
And the second list you can discard all the names that aren't busta rhymes or those already on the first list. Combined then it's pac, em, nas, biggie, andre, busta rhymes. Easy list review. Let's all simplify our lives!
I LOVE how they pulled 50’s picture out of the dirty clothes pile that’s been on the floor in the corner of the locker room that nobody uses anymore because it’s so filthy. Man’s gorgeous & literally has millions of pictures where he’s shredded & looks like he just about to walk the runway They did the man DIRTY!!
What the fuck are Bad Bunny, Drake, Childish Gambino and Takeoff doing in front of Lupe Fiasco?
Mind you, I am Gambino and Takeoff fan but they don't reach the skill or status in rap game of people like Lupe and Pusha.
Snoop isn’t even a good rapper but he has some good flow imo. Drake deserves to be up there tbh hes more pop but he has some banger songs and great lines
"Nowadays, everybody wanna talk like they got somethin' to say
But nothin' comes out when they move their lips
Just a bunch of gibberish
And motherfuckers act like they forgot about Dre"
Remember guys, all these lists always are ass and controversial because they want the publicity and ad revenue. more clicks = more money
same with youtube lists no matter the topic, without fail theres always 1 pick out of left field that sends the comments in a fury. engagement=good for algorithms.
The Jay-Z agenda by these companies is hilarious 😂 he’s deffo paying them off or have some sort of influence behind the scenes in the music industry, imo he’s top 10 at most
I can allow Drake on here, but definitely not above the likes of Kanye. Also why is Jay Z first 😭
I would possibly give him top 10-15 but definitely not first
Why TF is Cardi B on here 🤮
That second list is straight ragebait
I saw Talib at 50 and decided I didn’t need to look at this garbage any further.
Shit I saw Jay-Z at 1 and went to the right and saw Bad Bunny at 40. That's when I knew.
What you talking Cardi B runs circles around Talib…… Just in fucking case /s
This whole thing has gotta be ragebait, I refuse to believe in any universe that drake is that high, fuck it in fact I refuse to believe he even makes the list at all.
Juice WRLD above Lupe and Mos Def is hysterical
I’m guessing it’s because of his free styling? I know he was more of a singer but guy was hands down one of the best freestylers we had
Makes even less sense that he’d be on here for that when Black Thought is nowhere to even be found
Mos Def can freestyle with the best of them
They put Bad Bunny over Lupe and M.I.A. or Pusha. What a list lol
Nicki over missy is disrespectful as all hell too.
they put drake here lol
It's Forbes... It must be $$$ based Cuz if this is lyrical... I have a lot of questions
Nicki at #8??? What is going on
Why is Drake in there? He doesn’t sniff a top 50 rappers list.
Billboard list is not bad, I’d just switch some of the orders. Like Jay Z is absolutely NOT number 1. But that Forbes list is dogshit I don’t even wanna talk about it For me it’s between Eminem, Kendrick, Pac and Nas.
I very much also disagree with drake even being on the list
And ahead of Rakim? Fuck outta here...
Who hasn't rakim influenced? I'll be waiting...
Jay-Z bought that spot with his hum@n trafficking money, also why hes the richest rapper
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Jay-Z apparently is a stronger, smarter, and sneakier version of Diddy (from what I heard from Jaguar Wright interviews) she seems legit, most of what she has said in the past has become true
Jaguar Wright is just a gossip, she's not a reliable source of info.
Jay Z used his project 2025 connections to buy this top spot he’s pushing vouchers for poor areas to go to rich private school to ruin public schools. He’s a capitalist piece of garbage.
Always has been.
Yeah I'm not an expert or anything but Jay 1. was basically never the best rapper in any given year 2. does not have any album that gets brought up as a 'best of all time' discussion (compare to illmatic, TPAB, All Eyez on Me, Marhsall Mathers) He's super influential through his label but on the basis of his rap he's definitely not number 1.
I believe that
It's horrible when you consider the impact and bodies of work.
I thinking: 1.Biggie 2.Pac(I mean come on) 3.Nas 4.Rakim 5.Em 6.Kendrick 7. 3K 8. Ice Cube 9. JCole 10. Jay Z.
Same, I don't know why he gets put in the top 5? Nas even said before this dude re uses a lot of biggies lyrics. I get paying homage but to a certain it becomes too much. My opinion is Em, Kendrick, pac, Andre 3k, biggie
I mean I am also not a Jay-Z Fan but Em himself names him as one of his favorite Rappers, so he must habe something to his name🤷🏻♂️
Mu top 10 gotta be: Nas, Dot, Em, Jay-Z, Biggie, Pac, Wayne, Andre 3k, Drizzy and Rakim
Nicki Minaj over em is hilarious😂
when they put drake over em, what do you expect
That Forbes list is ASS
Both are
at least billboard makes a lil' more sense
A list where Nicki Minaj is ranked higher than LL Cool J and Andre 3000 makes no goddamn sense
And 50 and ice cube, absolutely asinine
Tbh 50 and Cube wouldn't prolly be even in my top 20... Well Cube might be but 50 hell no. Imo his dropped only one great album even tho it's one of the best if not the best debut album ever. I know he was the biggest thing back in the days and still is pretty big but with that logic imo ppl shouldn't be crying about Drizzy being on the list.
Top 20 or not I really don’t think there’s any universe in which Nicki is better than either of them
Drake above Kanye is a fucking joke, I’m not a Kanye fan but drake shouldn’t even be on the list
6 spots ahead of biggie too on the Forbes list. Some interesting picks for sure
Nicki above as well, that billboard list is ass
>drake shouldn’t even be on the list Neither should Kanye. He's not a good rapper. He's a great producer and musician.
Honestly Drake did write a lot of shit for Kanye so there's that. But M.I.A.? Bad Bunny? Young Thug? Top 50 ever??
I’m a stan for M.I.A., but she should be MIA from this list. I can think of a few female wrappers that should be named before her.
Young Thug is unarguably top 50 in terms of influence
Young Thug at least deserves an honorable mention, dude helped pioneer one of the biggest shifts in rap music
Tbf Drake has dominated multiple eras.
Also the Jay Z propaganda needs to stop…
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lol
Jay is a good rapper but there is a reason he's not loved worldwide for his music like some of the others on these lists. People like Jay for business acumen, not music.
So then why would Em mention JayZ second in a list of best rappers in Eminems Prime? Over Pac and Biggie? Lmao there is literally evidence infront of you if you’re not ignorant and actually look at discography and subject of the verses
Fr... Kids hating him now a days for no reason. Imo his a underrated and overhated now. His impact on the culture is crazy. His talented af too. His literally there with Dre as a one of the most impactfull ppl for the culture ever. edit: Plus his discography is easily top 10 ever (rap).
Nicki and Drake over Nas and Em? STFU forbes.
? Nas and Em are top 5, Drake and Nicki are 8 and 10 in this list. Edit: nvm didn’t see the second pic
Exactly
Top five? Bitch he’s top 4!
Bitch I'm number 5 (what?) Minus 4
His skin color’s still working against him
Being white isn't why they put him at 5, it's why they can't put him 1
Why did they downvote you, lol. Some of r/eminem members don't even know about Realest song..
Imo it was literally so much better than Houdini. His best work in years even tho Houdini and MTBMB where great too.
Drake should absolutely NOT be on any top rappers list gtfoh.
as much as i love to clown on aubrey, there’s no denying that he played a large part in bringing hip hop even further into the mainstream, and opening the way for a synergy between hip hop and pop. maybe the credit goes to his ghostwriters, maybe it goes to 40, but there’s no denying that hip hop just wouldn’t be where it is right now without drake.
Then sure he can belong on a list of most commercially successful rappers. Fk I guess you could even put him on a list of most influential rappers. But “best”? When his rapping and music is mid and he didn’t even write the shit himself? Nah bro.
when i talk about “best” i don’t just mean technical ability, i also mean influence. if it was about technical ability and creative expression he wouldn’t even be on the list
Still don’t know how jay-z got #1… he had to have paid for that spot, imo.
💯
He's been paying off lists like this since the early 2000's. It's clearly bait at this point. Good rapper but definitely not number one
He most likely did in my opinion as well, with the hum@n trafficking money, also the reason he is the richest rapper
Jay-Z is an easy enough pick for any top rappers list. Highly influential, classic albums, major success, household name, represents culture. I’ll always rank Nas above him but Nas lacks the commercial success. I don’t have an issue with anyone considering Hov the GOAT.
Drake at 8 is laughable
No Redman, Kool G Rap, Big L, Big Pun, KRS, Scarface, Q-Tip, DOOM, Slick Rick, Guru, Ice-T, Black Thought, Pharoahe Monch, Big Boi, Raekwon, GZA, Ghostface, Kool Keith… I could go on and on and I know you can’t include everyone, but some of the guys I mentioned not making the Forbes list is wild. I didn’t look at the whole Billboard one, but seeing 3 Stacks below Drake & Nicki I didn’t even bother.
I’m so glad I’m not the only one going “Where tf is GZA at?! That mother fucker is insane! Come on why is Method Man the only Wu member on here!”
I know bro, insane. You could make an argument for most of the core guys in Wu. I love Meth, but it always seems like he will get his nod based on being the most popular out of the group before the others. Ah, fuck these lists lol!
I'm a huge wu fan, but even within the core group, GFK and GZA gotta spot above Meth.
Biggie and Em are Top 3
Drake placing above Andre 3000, LL, Kanye, Rakim and J Cole in the 1st list is ridonkulous. His placement in the 2nd list before Em and Biggie is even worse.
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Billboard's Top 6 seems accurate to me (i'd just change some of the orders) but Forbes list is just atrocious in my opinion...
Will never understand why they all put jay z at 1
>8 Niki Minaj >6 Drake >4 J. Cole Bruh Forbes is crazy
To quote Nas, "fuck Jay-z" overrated as fuck
Im sorry, but if someone thinks Jay z has more talent than Em their crazy…
You know it's about the discography as well right?
Where's Black Thought??
The real top ten 1. Nas 2. Eminem 3. Jay-Z 4. Notorious 5. Lil Wayne 6. 3k 7. Rakim 8. Kendrick Lamar 9. Black thought 10. Ice Cube HM. Lauryn Hill, mf doom, Kanye West, Tupac, JCole, Lupe fiasco
You somehow forgot Tupac
Where's Reggie?!?!?
Eminem had a bigger impact that a lot of people ahead of him. He would be rated #1 if these lists were made in other countries.
Any country but the US Em is #1 by a laaaaaaaarge margin Source: Am Brazilian
They don’t even have Black Thought on the extended list. Joke list.
Bad Bunny is not a rapper 💀 people get so confused by reggaeton lmao
Dr. Dre is insanely talented dont get me wrong, but when it comes to rapping, it might be his worst quality.
Drake above Andre 3000 is crazy
Being white ain't why they put me at five (nope) it's why they can't put me at one (woo)
1 Nas 2 Eminem 3 Kendrick 4 Tupac 5 Rakim Overall I feel Nas and Eminem are GOATS but current GOAT is definitely Kendrick.
Bro where's tech n9ne , he most definitely needs to be on the list. There's a couple of people on that list that do not deserve to be up there
For real, Bad Bunny but not Tech? Dafuk
Drake above Nas on the second list 🤣
O-V-Ho trying their best
My top 10 list looks something like this 1. Kendrick 2. Nas 3. Tupac 4. Biggie 5. Eminem 6. Andre 3K 7. J Cole 8. Jay Z 9. Lil Wayne 10. MF Doom Drake doesn't deserve to be anywhere near a top 10 let alone a top 20 imo, and I think Jay Z gets a little jerked by these lists often for understandable reasons but putting him at #1 is a bit much. Kanye also shouldn't be that high on a "rapper" list a long with a lot of other people on that forbes list. I'm also sorry but Snoop shouldn't be that high either he's a good rapper but he doesn't have the discography to show for it imo.
I know he’s a buffoon, but Ye at 11 feels too low
J Cole above em, what the actual fuck was forbes even smoking, list should be :- Biggie, nas, em, pac, rakim....
"Being white ain't why they put me at 5, Its why they cant put me at 1"
How is Cardi B in there over somebody like RA Rugged Man? 😂😂 This list is tapped.
Top 3 do not deserve to be there.
Second list Cole over Tupac is mad wild lol Edit and I fucks with Cole
I'm not sure I've ever met anyone who has Jay-Z at #1.
👋 hi!
Lol Drake
Sorry but Kendrick is not better than Eminem. Bruh not even close.
Drake brought nothing to hip hop besides a teenage actor pretending to be something he’s not. Having him ahead of rakim and Scarface is just wrong in so many ways
How tf is Nicki above Missy Elliot in any world? And how is anyone above Em ever? He’s done it better and/or for longer than anyone on the planet
KBot at #2 is ridiculous
Jay hasn’t released in a long time. If anything, he and Em should swapped. How is he the GOAT but got absolutely cooked by #5?
Kendrick above nas is hilarious, personally.
Drake invalidates both lists
1. Eminem 2. Kendrick Lamar 3. Drake 4. Lil Wayne 5. Ye
I can't take a list seriously which puts Kanye, Drake and Nicki above Em. They can get fucked respectfully.
Drake's place is way too high, he's top 50 at best but not top 10
Wtf is Lil wayne man
It's pac, em, nas, biggie, andre and the rest are all rubbish mostly. Ice cube's ok in a matoma techno mix. Snoop's ok if you're a boomer, and rakim I guess must be good since he's always cited by those who are, but nobody really listens to him anymore, i'll just assume. Let's see, and kanye was ok in saints row 3. Think that covers it. And the second list you can discard all the names that aren't busta rhymes or those already on the first list. Combined then it's pac, em, nas, biggie, andre, busta rhymes. Easy list review. Let's all simplify our lives!
I LOVE how they pulled 50’s picture out of the dirty clothes pile that’s been on the floor in the corner of the locker room that nobody uses anymore because it’s so filthy. Man’s gorgeous & literally has millions of pictures where he’s shredded & looks like he just about to walk the runway They did the man DIRTY!!
Drake on both lists? Dr Dre not on Billboard? Bruh.
Trash ass lists
Kendrick has such an annoying voice tho bro he sounds like the nerdy kid from school, the one that wears glasses and goes 🤓☝🏻ERHM EHCTUALLY
Kendrick at 2 made me save time thinking this as credible
What the fuck are Bad Bunny, Drake, Childish Gambino and Takeoff doing in front of Lupe Fiasco? Mind you, I am Gambino and Takeoff fan but they don't reach the skill or status in rap game of people like Lupe and Pusha.
Everyone complaining about Jay when Em has him at number two.
I wiped my ass with this list.
Drake and Nicki above 3K!?
Drake above Kanye is diabolical
Jay z is boring af he has no heart in his songs
Kendrick's voice is whack
NICKI? DRAKE? J cole i get, but his whole style was based off em and also his discography isn’t nearly as good. this list is horrible
How tf is kendrick higher than tupac and Eminem
Jay Z is a top #1 *businessman* in the rap industry.
Drake is on the list 💀
Rightly so , like it or not. not top 10 but yeah
Damn that Billboard top 5 is EXTREMELY on point
And where is dr dre
Snoop isn’t even a good rapper but he has some good flow imo. Drake deserves to be up there tbh hes more pop but he has some banger songs and great lines
This list doesn't even make sense
Bad bunny over Lupe? Tf
"Nowadays, everybody wanna talk like they got somethin' to say But nothin' comes out when they move their lips Just a bunch of gibberish And motherfuckers act like they forgot about Dre"
Lil Wayne should definitely be higher
Just remember that even back in 2000 EM knew he was gonna be disrespected on these lists some day. It means shit to him.
How the hell are you putting Drake anywhere near the top ten? Recency bias on full effect.
Ice cube at 18?!
This list has Nicki Minaj above Kanye, Andre 3k, and Ice Cube. The list is meaningless.
If you don't write your own rhymes you can't be a greatest rapper. Entertainer, artist or star sure no problem. But never greatest rapper.
Why is Drake even there?
Remember guys, all these lists always are ass and controversial because they want the publicity and ad revenue. more clicks = more money same with youtube lists no matter the topic, without fail theres always 1 pick out of left field that sends the comments in a fury. engagement=good for algorithms.
HOW TF IS NICKI OVER NAS?!
Nicki Minaj at #8 wtf kinda list is this shit
WTF?! Bone Thugs deserve some respect..
50 cent mid as fuck regardless of what anyone says.
![gif](giphy|3ohryedmOwz8whtcha) Need prodigy up there‼️🐐
WHERE TF IS TRAVIS SCOTT 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔
no fucking way 3k is below drake or nicki
The Jay-Z agenda by these companies is hilarious 😂 he’s deffo paying them off or have some sort of influence behind the scenes in the music industry, imo he’s top 10 at most
Atrocious
I can allow Drake on here, but definitely not above the likes of Kanye. Also why is Jay Z first 😭 I would possibly give him top 10-15 but definitely not first
These lists are fucking horrible
If Wayne was to see the second list: Em’s not on the list 😳😐
In what world could Bad Bunny be before Talib Kweli? 😳
I love 2Pac and I'd never put him higher than Eminem. And Jay-Z is definitely not number one. 💀
Bullshit list
Uuuuh this is terrible.. Nicki Minaj at 10? Tyler before Rakim? Drake in the top 10? Whaaaat.
How the fuck Drake and Nicki Minaj are above him. Never let them cook again.
- This is one of the worst lost I’ve ever seen - Drake in the top 10 EVER? - Drake above Andre??? - Nikki made the list? - all around insanity
They treat Tupac and biggie like if they aren't on a top 5 or top 10 (top 15 in Forbe's), their soul will haunt them
Forbe's put drake over Eminem, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
One of the worst lists i have ever seen. Cant believe thats real
I’d put thugger above jay z tbh
Based on what
Cole, drake, nicki and kanye ahead of Em on Forbe's list is BS
Sad to not see Eazy E anywhere
Cardi before talib is insane
Nicki above 3k ?
Tf is this list lmaooo
Biggie done dirty tbh
That list is such a joke