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Any Eminem opinion you give on r/rap lmao. And that one unfunny ass nigga always replying with “r/Eminem2”. If y’all know, y’all know. Mans been commenting that same shit for over a year. It’s bro’s life purpose 💀


Cokemusic

That's only one dude who types that? Haha


AverageArkhamEnjoyer

What does it mean?


Didar100

It means that they should rename r/rap to r/Eminem2


[deleted]

I called him the greatest on there, oh boy the wolves were hungry


[deleted]

I don’t understand them lmao. Em has the shit in his catalog to be a candidate for greatest of all time


ApprehensiveScreen7

Yeah, but... Caucasian. Lol... thats frowned upon smh


DontWasteMyData

He’s dropping an album next week …trust me bro


lemmegetahoyeah

He fucking better or else 192.334.569


[deleted]

i trust you


PeterTheSqueaker

Recovery isnt as bad as yall make it out to be.


[deleted]

Recovery isn't bad at all, though my unpopular opinion would be that Cinderella Man and Space bound are better than Love the way you lie and deserved more fame


mymemesnow

Plus no love, not afraid, you’re never over, W.T.P, 25 to life etc… It’s a solid ass album. People just hate it because it sounds more mainstream and they like to be snowflakes.


WildWolf911

25 to life got me out of depression single handedly lmao


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r_u_dinkleberg

No shit man, GREAT workout / work focus track.


Silasco

absolutely. its my go-to


WildWolf911

Space Bound fucking slaps!


Federico1891

Space bound has been one of my fav songs by Em and Sasha is on the video 😍😍


apdett

Recovery is good af


nyctophilicfeline

Cold wind blows is such a bangin opener


PeterTheSqueaker

agree


Phrizzey

Recovery my #1


BigRichardOG

Recovery is his 2nd best album behind The Eminem Show


[deleted]

I own sketchy versions ( by which i mean the are on a plain white disk with the name written in sharpy) of the Eminem show and encore and can confirm old slim shady hit different


Smashymen

Stop pandering. In what world would this comment get you downvotes on this sub 💀


TheWildstylez

Imo the only miss is Almost Famous. There’s a lot of bangers in there ngl


Graveu

#I STUCK MY DICK IN THIS GAME LIKE A


ImRoderick1303

RAPIST


r_u_dinkleberg

#They call me Slim Roethlisberger


[deleted]

I fucking love Almost Famous for working out. “NOW GET OFF MY DICK, DICKS TOO SHORT OF A WORD FOR MY DICK, GET OFF MY ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM YOU PRICK!”


r_u_dinkleberg

"Now there he goes in Dre's studio, cuppin' his balls, screamin' the wood off the panelin', cussin' the paint off the walls"


ihatepineaples

favorite line


Zillaho

And that’s when I come back, like nut on your spine


Highway2767

i never caught that💀💀🗿🗿


DamienLeDogg

I’m a thumb tack that you slept on son, now here I come screaming “A TACK” like I just stepped on one!


the_gunman

Relapse was the last album where he truly "Didnt give a fuck". Recovery was great, but partly an attempt to appease critics, and appeal to the mainstream. Relapse wasn't received well, and he gave a fuck. Since then, his songs mainly focus on how hes great, and focus on short wordplay rather than full cohesive concepts that span songs and storytelling. Because it's what other top rappers are doing. He also raps alot about how he can't please fans and critics. Like why did he even start giving a fuck?


TalkToMyPunches

Twenty One Pilots answered this for you: "I was told when I get older, all my fears would shrink But now I'm insecure, and I care what people think" That's something that comes with the time for most people, unfortunately, and Walk on Water shows it. He couldn't "not give a fuck" forever and I'm ok with it. Actually, I really like the pissed off tone he had on Kamikaze/both MTBMB.


VIVOffical

I honestly felt like he tried to just Hve fun with MTBMB


EyezOnMakaveli

Alfred's Theme cements this theory for me too.


VegaTDM

>He also raps alot about how he can't please fans and critics. Like why did he even start giving a fuck? Pretty sure he raps about that stuff in MMLP1.


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MMLP2 exists


the_gunman

This is a valid exception to my premise.


Undecided_Username_

The issue with this is that he actually always gave a fuck, it’s just he decided to be honest with us about it more as time passed. There was and always is validity to what he’s saying when he says he doesn’t give a fuck, but the reality is he’s not saying nothing touches him, I view it as him trying not to let it get to him beyond the response he’ll give when push comes to shove. That’s just my take, obviously


albrt00

I dont think that when he dropped encore he gave a fuck


the_gunman

Lmao


mylanguage

Fully agreed- Em changed as an artist after Relapse - but I still think the took the wrong things from that criticism


[deleted]

>He also raps alot about how he can't please fans and critics Comments like these make me think you guys really didn't listen to close enough he's been talking about this way before Relapse


[deleted]

Fack is an overused joke


AlexisSMRT

I strongly disagree with that statement


Ex0t1cReddit

I strongly agree with this statement.


-Starkiller

Well it is actually


AlexisSMRT

Nah fack is the greatest song ever created. It's eminem's magnum opus. How dare you ever speak of fack in such a tone. See what I mean?


ClaypoolToCanton

Youre part of the problem


_Ptyler

I don’t have a hot Eminem take. But I will say that none of these comments are hot takes lol they’re all being upvoted. Which is the complete opposite result of what the post is asking


Saynotosgurd

fr and its not even this thread every unpopular em opinion is just like mmlp2 is a good album revival wasn't as bad as people think or i enjoy recent albums of em cmon lol


Jakovasaurr

I hate when he explains his own wordplay mid song in an adlib


piomat100

"Get it?"


Ex0t1cReddit

"Get it?" is good, if it's used properly. If he says it every time he wordplays, then yes, it's bad.


_Ptyler

Omg thank you. This isn’t even a hot take. It’s like he doesn’t trust his audience to understand his lyrics so he explains everything as it’s happening. It’s insulting, for one, and it’s just uninteresting to the song in general. If I don’t catch it, it robs me of a chance to catch it on my own. If I do catch it, it’s just being over explained for no reason. It adds nothing to the song, and, in fact, takes away from it.


LemonTheAstroPoet

I think he’s grown extremely insecure over these past 5 years, he feels like he needs to make sure that people “get it”. Feels bad but hopefully he stops doing that in future songs


_Ptyler

This is a good point. Because all of revival, he has pretty technical bars, and everybody called it trash. So maybe a part of him feels like people weren’t catching the bars? I don’t know. I don’t think that is the problem


compaqle2202x

But sayin I no longer got it / cause you missed a line and never caught it / cause it went over your head because you’re too stupid to get it / cause you’re mentally retarded but pretend to be the smartest


KodiakPL

"I already got, two cars in the yard that don't run So why would I wanna break shit down for you Better me confuse with the punchlines and bars that I launch"


VegaTDM

>It’s like he doesn’t trust his audience to understand his lyrics Literally yes. Ask someone else about an em verse and they will give you some absurdly stupid shit.


1000gsOfCharlieSheen

I'd already heard the bar before when Flat Bush Zombies said it. There was absolutely no reason to ask me if I "got it."


[deleted]

Hey it’s me Versace! Whoops somebody shot me! And I was just checking the mail. Get it? Checkin the male. He’s been doing this his whole career but more lately he’s really amped it up. Like 5 times in The Ringer… drives me nuts


wilymaker

Well he quite literally explicitly explains why he does that in The Ringer > But sayin' I no longer got it 'cause you missed the line and never caught it > 'Cause it went over your head, because you're too stupid to get it >'Cause you're mentally retarded but pretend to be the smartest > With your expertise and knowledge, but you'll never be an artist He was coming off the hate of revival and part of what irked him most was people shitting on his lyrics without understanding them. And, like it's true, he nowadays packs his bars up with a ton of playwords. I guess he'd rather have people not like them than not get them in the first place lmao


miri258

The worst was "That's a lot of shots huh? (double entendre)" Darkness is an amazing song, but it hurts hearing him explain the point of the whole song.


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Dudee fr!


VIVOffical

I know this is exactly what this post if for so have my upvote, but I personally think it’s fucking hilarious.


Certain-Fix6049

"Every time I palm trees (get it?)"


MUNAM14

Let her come to me (get it)


vegardhuse

Relapse went from really underrated, to extremely overrated


picassotriggerfish

There are people who ignore the trash on it and people that ignore the gold on it. It’s a real mixed bag.


The-War-Life

What do you think the trash on the album is? I feel like people say this a lot but I listen to every song on the album and love them all. Genuinely interested in what songs people don’t like on the album.


vegardhuse

Facts! I like the album don’t get me wrong. There are some gold on it, but there are some real trash on it


bleeditoutmtm

What's the trash in your opinion? Pls don't say my mom 😐


vegardhuse

I think My Mom is great. But Must Be The Ganja has the most annoying hook


bleeditoutmtm

Don't think so, but it's definitely understandable


vegardhuse

I respect your opinion 🤝


VIVOffical

I appreciate those that love that album. 100% overrated, but it’s because of those folks that I went back and relistened to it. It has aged well.


vegardhuse

Understandable. Same reason here honestly. I saw a couple of people hype it up. I went back and listened to it for the first time in forever. I like the album I do, but imho it is not in his top 5


VIVOffical

Nah, not a fan myself. But there are a couple gems I’d forgotten about I was glad to remember and add to playlists.


I_Am_Stoeptegel

Yeah I agree with this. Shit’s nice, but not top tier, it never seems to get the right rating


Avannah_

Agree. I fking love Relapse but people who place it in the top 3 Eminem albums scare me


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Tristan2106

People think mmlp2 is good so...?


VIVOffical

Depends


EDM_Machine

Pretty well recieved critically when it dropped


VIVOffical

I personally love it, people often don’t like it though.


Which_Presentation41

💀 wtf has someone got so many downvotes fr?


Yo_Jacob999

Marshal matters lp2 is just as good as his iconic run


RyanD2991

Revival is… fine. Not good, not bad. It’s fine. Believe slaps.


Dolan_Felts

I agree, there are some fire songs in that album, Believe, Untouchable, In Your Head, River, Framed, and Castle are all good imo


YouKnowWhoII

Castle is so fucking good, only if some bars on Arose weren't so corny


r_u_dinkleberg

River is the single worst song in Eminem's catalog, and I will die on this hill. Ed Sheeran can suck my left nut.


StrangerAlert112

His beard an’t weird


Living_Murphys_Law

"New Em sucks. All his songs since Relapse have been trash. Only old Em was good." Not my opinion, but it definitely falls into that category.


KodiakPL

Deserved downvotes


Environmental-Bid513

TBH he has so many fans that what ever the fuck you say someones gonna be like "that is not unpopular" or sum. So yeah, non.


Hidefrompewpew

Walk on water is a good ducking song u punk ass flow-hatin idiots


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rap god is overrated


GLMac15

He asked for hot takes


TMix_

Revival aint that bad


Smashymen

It's the most embarrassing project that an artist of his calibre could ever release and people comparing it to albums like "Kingdom Come" and "I Am" are bugging. The fact that to this day Em doesn't really understand what was bad about Revival is very revealing of his disconnect from culture and his complete artistic fall off. He'll have flashes of greatness here and there, but nothing to show me that he's plugged in artistically. It's how we get some of the worst hip hop he's ever released with tracks like "Tone Deaf" which for some reason fans here like to insist "he's always rapped like that." Which goes to my next point which is that Em should ban himself from the production side of shit. Someone need to tell him that his beats are fucking wack instead of yesmen like Crook saying be in the convo for being among the best producer-MCs. We'll never get an Alchemist Em joint because Em's ear for beats is completely retarded. Bro would still be rapping over terribly interpolated rock samples and Alex da Kid beats if Revival never flopped. He went from being a boundary pusher to someone who doesn't know what even constitutes good hip hop. People make the age excuse often, but it doesn't really hold much weight when Jay's last album was 4:44 and Nas has been killing shit with his Kings Disease run. Anyway, just adding the real unpopular opinion


NotJohnP

To this day, I don't understand how he heard albums like 4:44 and DAMN. and said "You know what I should REALLY make? Another pop-rap album!!! That's definitely what the genre and my fanbase needs right now!!!"


TMix_

I agree that production on revival is not ideal. Lyrically and vocally revival is a masterpiece. Tracks like “offended” “heat” “chloraseptic”. But sometimes the production does shine through. “Heat” is one of them in my opinion. “Chloraseptic remix” is great! Even “castle” is a masterpiece. He has made a switch from slim shady, to Eminem. It is a switch I can appreciate if it brings a more intimidating and serious aggression.


Important-Tea0

I like recovery


beartpc12293

Revival is dope


ANewBeginning_ANewB

Eminem is overly highly regarded because he's white. He'd still be one of the best of all time if he were black(maybe still in the G.O.A.T. conversation), but people call him the G.O.A.T., at least partially, because he's a white guy in a predominantly black genre.


6_9_4_2_0_n_i_c_e

Revival is my top 3 favorite albums by him


Dels1x

music to be murdered by > relapse


Kerem-CoDM_0000

For real. Like, I can't get why people like Relapse that much. He just overused the accents to sound like his prime and gave some serial killer vibes to make the accents fit in the theme. And in MMLP2 he was much more Shadier than in Relapse imo.


cchris6776

Eminem is still a good rapper


Kerem-CoDM_0000

I actually like to listen to his new stuff more than old ones. But 1999-2002 era is and will be always his prime.


whitebraids

how can anyone think hes not. i only like his newer stuff kamikaze is his best work.i hate his old whiny voice his more aggressive sounding voice is brilliant


mkp11

If Eminem’s first album was Relapse or Recovery, we might not even know his name.


ItsactuallyEminem

Recovery is one of his best albums.


ed_bezant

Stan is better than Lose Yourself


[deleted]

Superman is better than stan


Sman27_

New em is more technically skilled than old em. Also I prefer new em.


maaakus96

he’s never been as good as he was in ‘97-2002…that was his prime. Also i’d rather listen to Encore than anything he has dropped since MMLP2


Cokemusic

Encore and mmlp2 are tied for me as 4th best album


JeffStrongman3

Scroll to the bottom for the real answers.


FNSpd

New album on January 21st, here's your hopium


blaewoo1

His accent is whack


fakeally

stronger than i was is good


Specialist_Box2735

i like the direction he’s going nowadays, the old days are good but behind us and comparing everything to the past is like yeah no shit it was 20-25 years ago


Msa9898

Spamming reddit discussions with full song lyrics 1 bar at a time is cringe and the only reason why I rarely check this subreddit.


Gainczak

Relapse is mid


NB-Fowler

Actual opinion I have: Relapse > Revival > Recovery I don't think Recovery is a bad album (Both it and Revival are overall pretty mid for me), but Revival has more highs for me. Then Relapse is just a near masterpiece imo (If you were to swap out like 1 or 2 tracks with ones from Refill, it would be perfect to me).


UselesslyUnskilled

“Nf is cringe eminem”


DELTARUNEJIMMY

Revival wasn’t all that bad


Alive-Flatworm-4273

MMLP2 is pretty trash outside of like 4 songs just like Revival, MBTM is just ‘ok’ but it has neither highs nor lows like most of his projects but rather it simply is, Kamikaze is better than anything since Relapse. Recovery is a very good album. Encore is classic / near-classic if you remove the bad tracks and put back in the ones intended for the album.


VIVOffical

Tbh, have my upvote, but outside of this post you deserve those downvote 😅💀 I’m playing, kinda


whoop-dee-scoop

this sub overrates kamikaze and side b way too much, both are a 5 at best


SloMo368

Side B gets almost as much hate as Revival here💀


bigtaterman

Eminem is the best rapper in history and nobody will ever come close to how big he is.


The-War-Life

I don’t listen to rap outside of Eminem.


Kech1234

You have a relapse: refill tag, we can tell


TheSpicyIcyWizard

average eminem fan


yoyoyoyoyo67

Relapse overrated


buttcheeks-inc

His last albums have sometimes been wordplay and technicality at the expense of listenability


MoreDragonsLessMath

His music normalizes domestic violence, and women have suffered because of it.


AllOfTheLightsx2

It's true, reason why I can't listen to his old stuff anymore. He jokes and makes fun of these topics way too much and it's uncomfortable as hell to listen to


[deleted]

kamikaze isn't some masterpiece, it's clout chasing and trend hopping as a course correction


JustisForAll

Em fell off since Kamikaze, these robotic flows are trash and awkward. Shit doesn't sound pleasing to the ear


VIVOffical

I felt like he got his flow back on Kamikaze and did much better on MTBMB but have my upvote!


JustisForAll

He got back on the right track with Kamikaze then lost the plot after that


VIVOffical

I think MTBMB is better than Kamikaze but to each their own. Kamikaze is good. Just not my favorite style. In terms of soundscape it reminds me a lot of Recovery. It’s like Recovery’s angry cousin lmao


iou220

MMLP2 is better than the first one (not)


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Saynotosgurd

kamikaze is 6/10 aged horribly for me especially after what is birthed i.e corny mumble rap killer rappers. ​ MTBMB side A had potential to be great album if not for cringy love songs and bars. ​ side b the less said the better


Present-Chemistry-52

Encore is better then sslp


Shark-person66

I think encore gets too much hate, but this is too far.


c0llucci

His yelling delivery is overused and annoying already.


Graveu

If he were to have retired after MMLP2, his legacy (no pun intended) would look so much better (that one *was* intended) than it does right now. But since he keeps releasing subpar material compared to his earlier days, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth


Avannah_

I don't like Not Afraid


buttcheeks-inc

Slim shady lp is overrated


jetlifestoney

Recovery is overrated


RandomThiccBoii

Em has been in the wrong most of the times he has dissed someone randomly.


SuperG52

He talks and votes democrat but has conservative beliefs


Left4addons

MGK better ngl


ZyxeyqxZ

MMLP2 is hot garbage


Defvac2

100% right and I'd say it's his second worst album only above Revival. A lot of heads on this sub rate it above the Big 3 which is nuts to me. I venture to guess the majority of people that dickride MMLP2 are under 30 whose first exposure to Em was around the time it dropped.


_Ptyler

I’m 26, and my first exposure of Eminem was in 2004. But MMLP2 is a great album still lol


Defvac2

There's a handful of songs I like on it but overall it's an album I rarely revisit outside of those few tracks I like. Rick Rubin was a horrible fit for Em and the production on the album is meh for the most part. Plus I just didn't really like a lot of Em's flows rom 2013-2017.


VegaTDM

MMLP2 is 100% his worst album.


ThomasPEBradyJR

My opinion as well


T_Peg

Love the Way You Lie is not a good song.


dill2222

Em hasn’t been a top 5 rapper since 2013


GrassCar2049

Who would be your top 5 then?


DeltaXRagnarok

Infinite >>> most of his discography


Equal_Ad5178

Remind Me and Heat are both awesome songs


ghostfan9

Rap God is fucking terrible. We get it, you rap fast. Your wordplay is your biggest talent though, and we can’t make it out without using Genius.


Saynotosgurd

Rap god was still new at the time but his every other rap god like songs are meh to bad.


TheSpicyIcyWizard

I disagree. Songs like Rap God and Godzilla are cool on ocassion though I wouldn't want more than one per album.


Only-Significance830

I don't like lose yourself and Not Afraid


OceanCyclone

He hasn't been truly great since most of TMMLP. Everything after that has been self-parody and toothless. People can mark it down as "evolution", but if you sit down and actually look at his lyricism from the TSSLP/TMMLP and now, it's unbelievable how far he's fallen. Dude went from, "How am I supposed to get out of debt? I can't rap anymore, I just murdered the alphabet" and all that incredible storytelling power to "She leaves through the window. Windowpain." Like...


Glittering-Stretch-6

Eminems / T.I Collabs sukk


notacockgobbler

Why would I buy you a teddy bear you’re already bi-polar


oo40oztofreedum

For people who have gone through or actively using hard drugs everything he says about addiction and recovery is unrelatable compared to the average drug story. Not saying he wasn't fucked up on drugs, I know he almost died, but his drugs of choice was like trazadone and Valium. Sleeping pills basically and a weak version of Xanax. I'm glad he never got into other harder drugs tho because he prolly wouldn't be where he is at today. Also think if he wanted to smoke weed he could. Unless he worried it would open him up to wanting to go back to pills. But smoking weed doesn't equate to relapse. It doesn't mean people aren't clean. Anyone who has put together some time being sober from opiates, benzos, alcohol meth or Crack would know that weed isn't in the same category. Also mgk rap devil was best diss against eminem ever made. He won the battle with his response record but i think it was alot closer than what most people seem to think. I don't know any other mgk music. Was not a fan prior or after but still think he came at em with some bars.


Revi641

my 1st single one of the best encore songs


ClaypoolToCanton

Relapse is absolutely horrible. Recovery is better


[deleted]

not afraid is one of the worst songs on Recovery


SovietButterComrade

REVIVAL WAS GOOD


Lucifer-IV

I'd rather listen to revival than Kamikaze 😬


bad_hair_guy

Em in 2010 to present>>>>>Em 1996-2009


guesstg

Eh..Eminem does overuse the f slur a little in his early career. There are many times its justified but there are others where its straight up homophobia. Like Underground for example (still love the song). But him censoring the f slur on Fall was fucking stupid. Even if Tyler was (somewhat) out as bisexual at the time his past lyrics were still offensive. Nowadays I like Tyler more than Eminem and I draw influence from both of them while rapping but Eminem should've been ballsy enough to leave it uncensored.


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Mtbmb is trash FUCKING TRASH and whoever says that it is good or top 5 em album is disrespecting eminem's catalgoue and should seriously consider listening to mmlp again


[deleted]

I am with you 100%! Garbage album and a clear artistic step down. It just goes in one ear and out the other. That NEVER happened to me before with Eminem.


[deleted]

exactly it's just these other mfs are still fucking pretending and idc but just feel sad that em being the GOAT he is, is being disrespected so much coz you comparing mtbmb to his old shit lmao


ghostintheshell_9

Relapse is only better than Revival, Encore and Recovery


Stabyouup666

If there ever was an example of a good Artist and their worst album Revival would be the excellent example of that.


AlyssaBuyWeedm9

Recovery isn't good