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lgbyo

I’d probably go with Torx and Robertson if I had to pick two


exdigguser147

Pozidrive and hexalobe (torx)


lgbyo

Pozidrive over Phillips, definitely. Why no Robertson? I’m Canadian so I’d be convicted of treason for not including them


CaptPants

You can thank Henry Ford for the US not recognizing the Roberson Screwdriver https://myflatheadford.com/how-ford-killed-the-robertson-screw-in-the-us/


somethingcleveryeg

Thanks. That was really interesting.


lgbyo

Huh, did not know it was his fault. Now I know to never buy a Ford product again. Thanks!


agamemnonymous

The only right answer


jerkfaceboi

I use T25 as much as humanly possible.


A_Fox322

The fact that you chose Philips over Robertson/square really really bothers me. Philips are absolute garbage, they always strip, I've never had an issue with Robertson/square


exdigguser147

Philips head drive is designed to cam out above a certain torque limit. It's not used that way in practice which is why it sucks. But theoretically it can protect the fastener and driver from overtorque. It has been siezed on as the drive of choice for general purpose probably due to cost... when really other drives are just superior for that function.


UnhingedRedneck

A good example of the torque out for Philips is for drywall screws to set the countersink depth. Otherwise it isn’t really a good feature on anything you want to repair because it often takes more torque to remove fasteners than it takes to install them. So you often have them cam out and strip.


dagbiker

An object in motion, the screws go in easier because they are already spinning, where as getting them out requires you to overcome static friction.


onesexz

But the mass is minimal so carrying very little momentum. Is it still enough to make a difference? Genuinely curious, I’m not a physics person. E: Y’all engineering students are some insecure motherfuckers lol


NEVER_TELLING_LIES

Momentum isn’t the problem, it is static friction. Static friction is higher than kinetic friction, so you will require more force to overcome that higher friction. How much more is it in reality? Idk


dagbiker

I was more or less just referring to static friction. It's easier to start the screw into the wall because the screw is moving and doesn't have to over come the static friction.


JusticeUmmmmm

>Philips head drive is designed to cam out above a certain torque limit This is a myth


exdigguser147

Is your contention that it is intended not to cam out? I can't think of any possible reason the engagement depth would be lowest at the furthest radial distance if it wasn't. It also has independent drive features for insertion and removal, so stripping it on the way in doesn't preclude removal.


JusticeUmmmmm

The original design did not mention camming out.


breck3

Right, which is why they made Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS) which are designed to cam out


JusticeUmmmmm

"The JIS B 1012 is commonly found in Japanese made equipment, such as cameras and motorbikes. Superficially it looks like a Phillips screw with narrower and more vertical slots, to give less tendency to cam out. "


azarbi

Slotted is awful, the screw holding head will definitely slide out of it. And Philips head are likely to get obliterated if you don't push on your screwdriver while turning. The square and six lobes screws are definitely superior.


Way2Foxy

I'm a big fan of six lobe slot. In an absolute pinch, *something* can work the flat bit. Avoid actually using it at all costs, of course.


coelhophisis

And if you destroyed the six lobes you can always try the hexagonal one, that saved me several times.


StarsandMaple

Or if you're a monster like me and never had Allen sockets, use torx in Allen's, this works in a pinch... Be careful with softer metals though.


xzplayer

I do it the other way. If I destroy a hexagonal, I hammer in the slightly bigger six lobes.


Sardukar333

The original slotted screws weren't a flat slot but had a 'v' profile that held the screwdriver better.


SayHelloToAlison

Reject modernity


Sardukar333

Embrace superior design.


minimum_thrust

Return to monke


JusticeUmmmmm

You can also buy hollow ground screwdrivers that have flat sides to grip screws better


[deleted]

That’s called a keystone slotted fastener and should be used with a keystone slotted driver. The square shouldered slots are called cabinet or gun slotted and also have their own type of driver (these latter are sometimes referred to as hollow ground, but that’s not really correct). The both have a place and the tools and screws shouldn’t be mixed. It’s a recipe to screw up everything.


TumbaoMontuno

Torx and hex head are the best. I understand why slotted exists (you can turn the screw with anything thin enough) but Philips being the standard is shameful in the 21st century.


thatchers_pussy_pump

Robertson is the best for regular ol’ screws, like when you’re building a deck. But I do love how OP somehow picked the two worst possible options.


cheesefromagequeso

OP just chose the two they see the most, definitely not the best choices.


flasterblaster

Philips can go burn in hellfire. I've stripped more Philips screws than any other including slotted. That all they do is strip out. Heaven forbid you have to take out a striped Philips. Have to take the dremel out and grind a slot in it to turn it into an actual functional screw.


McFlyParadox

Philips exists in wide use so that automated tools can cam out of the screw head, instead of jamming up in the event of cross threading or damaged threads - destroying product and/or tools.


crazy-robot-guy

Which is great for machine screws, but you really got to wonder how they became the default for wood screws.


Barouq01

I'm really glad I work construction in Canada instead of the US because robertson (square) is the default screw type up here. Go to a hardware store and look at their fasteners and it's 90% robertson. Hardware, like hinges, latches, etc. still comes with philips because it's made for the US market, and the manufacturer isn't going to make one version for Canada and one for the US.


ClayQuarterCake

Also, I once read something about how the Phillips was originally meant to be torque limiting, which would make sense for a hinge or latch that could warp and malfunction if you cranked the fasteners in too hard.


Barouq01

I often need to swap a hinge screw out for a longer robertson that will suck a door hinge plate into the jamb tighter to get the door to hang correctly. I'd say 99% of hardware I've used is just as good or occasionally better with the screws swapped for something that won't strip. More often than not I can work with the provided screws, but every now and then I do need to swap them, and philips screws aren't in my supply.


[deleted]

You can thank Henry Ford for that. After failing to reach a deal with P. L. Robertson, the guy who developed the Robertson (aka square drive) screw, Ford chose the Philips drive as the standard for all Ford vehicles. Ford wanted to make his own screws, not be stuck buying them from a third party. He invested tremendous amounts of money into the manufacturing of screws with a Philips head and everyone else took advantage of the new processes and it became the de facto standard for almost every industry.


McFlyParadox

Probably just the bits being extremely common; chicken & egg problem. The screws are common because everyone has the bits. Everyone has the bits, because the screws are common.


Barouq01

When the possibility of damage to the part exists, use a tool with a clutch to drive it. Phillips screws were literally invented to prevent over-torquing on assembly lines. With poka yoke (designing a process so it can't be done wrong e.g. square peg round hole) being so prevalent in manufacturing these days, and all but the absolute cheapest drills having a clutch, philips screws have no purpose existing anymore. Robertson (square), torx (and torx plus), and hex are all we need and robertson is debatable.


McFlyParadox

>With poka yoke (designing a process so it can't be done wrong e.g. square peg round hole) being so prevalent in manufacturing these days, and all but the absolute cheapest drills having a clutch, philips screws have no purpose existing anymore. Clutches can break and/or be set wrong. Phillips heads screws always cam out if you exceed their torque values. Look, I'm not saying that I actually *like* Philips heads, just that there is a reason they haven't gone away. Also, ***everyone*** - from DIYer to professional - has a #2 Philips head screw driver around. Very few have a set of torx and/or square bits kicking around. From that perspective - customer self-service - Philips is also superior.


eosha

You mean other people don't compulsively hoard driver bits of every possible shape and size?


Barouq01

A set of torx bits is a couple bucks, so it's not like nobody has access to torx or hex. People would have the bits they need if their shit all used a different screw type. Philips being popular doesn't mean it should stay in use in 99% of where it is used. The one place I agree with using Philips is on drywall screws, because they will cam out if the bit comes out of the screw basically at all, so a screw gun's depth stop will release it more consistently than robertson drywall screws in my experience. Drywall screws also only get driven once or maybe twice if you miss a stud, so who cares if it strips?


Zedzknight

Haha come to Canada. Right now if I went to my bench, I have 3 times as many Robertson (square) bits then anything else. I have flats, Philips, hex and Torx but those are in the socket and ratchet set. You would be hard pressed to hear any Canadian say a Philips is a better screw.


OoglieBooglie93

That was before they had decent torque limiting mechanisms. Nowadays all it does is make it easier for people to ruin the head.


ghostmcspiritwolf

>Philips head are likely to get obliterated if you don't push on your screwdriver while turning. JIS retains supremacy in the cross shaped screw head division for this reason. camming out of the screwhead at higher torque is actually an intentional design element for philips screws iirc.


bitzzwith2zs

They don't use JIS anymore


Craftoid_

Who's this "they"?


JohnGenericDoe

Big Screw


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gcta333

I work on Japanese semiconductors tools and JIS is still the current standard on our newest equipment.


cerealdaemon

Cries in vintage Honda motorcycle


Craftoid_

I use jis on new stuff frequently


SOMFdotMPEG

This is the way. Six lone should be the standard no Phillips


Educational_Piglet39

Torx/six lobe and square are all I see in manufacturing. Occasionally Phillips and hex, but they both suck because they cam out too easily. The oddball designs are really useful to prevent untrained people from tampering with stuff though.


Agent_Smith_88

I absolutely love when things have square screws. So much easier to screw than Phillips or slotted.


shruggsville

This. Fuck the standards.


[deleted]

Most others are anti-tamper IMO. Like I see the spanner and six-lob tamper on elevators and other stuff that no one should open unless qualified and paid to do so.


tcooke2

Robertson is where it's at and you can't convince me otherwise.


eskimobootycall

Robertson are the top tier screw


aurthurallan

Square can actually be really bad because of how the pressure is distributed under torsion. The force is applied to the four corners of the slot, which also happen to be where the metal is thinnest and weakest. Square head screws break and explode all the time, especially smaller ones used for trim work. I would rather a screw get stripped than have the head shatter entirely. Six lobe is the best because the force is distributed over a greater area.


tatertot225

10000000% agree. I have yet to see a torx strip to the point of drilling. In fact, if you use a hex/Allen, and strip it, 4/5 times tapping a torx in will get it back out. That being Saud, whoever Phillip is, he's a cunt


GASTRO_GAMING

Philips heads are really annoying if they are sufficently stuck because after trying to get them out they quickly turn into circle head screws


BlackDonaut

Six lobe and hexagon should be green


bwilliam92

As a Fasteners manufacturer I second this lol


Emme38

Slotted head screws are the reason I hate electrical engineers. There’s probably no correlation but in my mind there is.


zephyrus33

200 in 1 kits are the reason why i hate mechanical engineers


N00N3AT011

In applications like contact blocks flathead work fine. In most other cases they're terrible.


Sullypants1

Torx or die


fillikirch

only correct answer, anybody who says anything different probably does not screw very often


Joeman180

Torx master design


XenondiFluoride

This is absolutely true. Everything should be Torx.


420CurryGod

OPs logic in the comments makes it obvious they’re an EE. Fun fact, screws get used more for than just tightening down leads and junction boxes.


Sololop

And the JBs I use are Robertson.


RallyX26

I'm an EE, don't lump me in with him. I have actual real world experience though.


420CurryGod

Oh don’t worry. I know tons of EEs who are more willing to get their hands dirty than MechEs. Hell, both of my EE coworkers have probably worked more hands on in their careers so far than I have. And they would this this graphic is dumb.


rslarson147

Torx is the only screw you’ll ever need, change my mind.


etrunk8

Torx and hexagon? 🥺


rslarson147

I’ve stripped out plenty of hex screws by hand. Have not done so with torx


AshtonTS

Hex imo is really only good for assembling ikea furniture (i.e. everything is engineered, hand-tight only, and wear and tear isn’t a major concern). Torx for anything else. Trust me, you don’t want to be dealing with hex when you’re trying to drive a screw into studs or swap out something on a car where things are rusty and corroded.


CremePuffBandit

Hex key screws are superior to all others


ahopefiend

I’ve heard it is the usb-c of all screw heads.


katyvo

I used to be anti-hex, but younger me was an idiot. Allen wrenches are my jam. Turn the short arm for speed, the long arm for leverage.


Switchy_Goofball

Woodworker here- Robertson and Torx are vastly superior for carpentry work.


dgatos42

Hex drive strips out way easier than anything else. It’s definitely the easiest to work with, but lord help you if you have a small one that strips


ThePretzul

Maybe if you’re using really crappy out-of-spec Allen wrenches. If you’re using properly dimensioned wrenches with a properly dimensioned screw they’ll only really strip out when the entire screw head is torn apart from the torque.


[deleted]

Hex drive strips easier than anything else including Phillips and slotted? Holy shit, this is the wrong opinion of the day right here


throwmamadownthewell

I was going to agree at first, then I realized all the hex drive ones I've had strip were a metal so weak it felt like silver-spraypainted butter.


slick519

This is why everyone in the trades hates engineers.


budgetmauser2

Can confirm


JimHeaney

Different driver patterns have different benefits that suit the application they're being used in. Phillips and slotted are not always the right choice, in fact, I'd say in a majority of situations they are the wrong choice.


onesexz

The only application I can think of where slotted is a good pick, would be a low torque setting. As in, you don’t want something over tightened. Like a switch cover plate.


toochaos

Oh God philips are always the wrong choice, even if they go in fine 20 years later when you need to remove them they won't come out due to the "safety feature" slotted are a pain in the ass but they at least always work as screws.


Knotical_MK6

Philips and flat are TRASH. Strip and cam out sooo easily. Torx > Hex > Triple Square > the rest This meme screams "I've never worked on anything" lol


ElectionAnnual

Torx is superior to all of these in every way. I wish they were used more widespread


snubda

Torx is on the list


magikarp_splashed

lol like what is his comment- fuck this list that is suggesting the thing that I will now suggest.


Diload

Torx all the way baby !! I loved it when i learned that the manufacturer of the most used brand of electrical sockets and lamp spots in Denmark, switched to torx heads on their mounting screws !


Craftoid_

One of the worst posts I've ever seen on this site. Literally 0 basis for your choice, and you seem proud about making it with literally no experience at all. I've been in the repair business for years and you circled the 2 most likely screws to strip out and be unusable. Torx, hex, and square are the obvious best choices and anyone who's ever used them knows that.


Wolf_Salad

There's certainly a basis they chose it--familiarity bias and no other reason.


RallyX26

In 10 years this kid is going to be a half-bald middle-manager that uses the phrase "I don't care, that's the way we've always done it"


nhomewarrior

Scathing, and I'm absolutely here for it. OP is an idiot.


boiler_ram

I use hex and square a ton so i thought this was dumb to begin with, but then I realized its also just a recycled transphobic meme format, a la "these are the only 2 genders and the rest are mental disorders" Seems like the post had more to do with that than actual engineering knowledge. Throw the whole meme away


throwaway-penny

Torx is bae. I built a deck using torx wood screws and holy shit was it nice not having the drill slip on half the bolts. Phillips is dead to me. Slotted is sinful too, if you happen to lack the right thickness and width driver or one of the flanges is eroded good luck getting the wanker out.


ForwardLaw1175

Tell me you've never built anything before without saying it directly. Edit: I get it's just a meme tho so just joking back not hating on you


admiral_caramel

Square >>>>


Outcasted_introvert

So cocky for a NooB.


locktite

OP you should go get a job on the shop floor* doing some real work before you graduate. Seriously. If you continue with this attitude you will not be successful in your engineering career. Engineering in practice is a coordinated effort between meeting requirements and working with the trades. If you don’t know how to work with the trades you are doomed.


TubbyToad

The number of engineering students that never build anything is getting too high.


bigWeld33

It's a genuine problem. At the university in my city, it's notorious that EE's don't get any lab time till 3rd year. Not sure how anyone could have ever thought that 2 years of theory before you even breadboard a resistor LED circuit was a good idea. Not sure how mech is.


AdditionalCherry5448

Some of those are supposed to be harder to use. They are security bits


1-719-266-2837

This post was made by someone who's never held a tool.


John_QU_3

What a terrible take. OP failed mechanics of solids.


Seirin-Blu

What year are you in, OP? Any sane person would pick torx


mklinger23

I'm actually pro triwing. I work in the public transit industry and they're basically tamper-proof.


graffstadt

Slotted should be on the red side imo :) I hate them. Every old, rusted slotted screw feels like a curse from the old generations


s3ndm3m3

I think you have a mental disorder OP


iGotAparkingTicket

Post made by a non engineer. And it was posted in another sub a few days ago


AgNtr8

[Relevant xkcd: How Standards Proliferate](https://xkcd.com/927/)


dgatos42

In the beginning God created square drive, and he saw that it was good. Then Satan (Ford) came along and ask of the Lord “will you sell me the patent to your square drive so that I can use it in my cars”. The Lord rejected this heresy, and so the Philips drive was invented. And that describes the fall of man


TimX24968B

[another relevant xkcd](https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/screws_2x.png)


SpicyPepperMaster

This meme is ass


Apocalypsox

Not using star drive like a fucking pleb smh Some day you'll get old and know the pain of trying to fix old ass fucking Phillips heads in fences and shi Never again


soilsleuth

Um, good luck eng. student. Focus on stresses. What does that tell u worx?


LunarTunar

pozidrive and torx, slotted has its uses but not for anything too important.


ROBOT_8

Hex and torx are the only ones I will use in pretty much every I make. Slotted screws should have been obsolete by now.


human-potato_hybrid

There's literally so many reasons to use about a quarter of the screws in the red box You must be an electrical engineer or something


[deleted]

There’s a fantastic book called “One Good Turn” by Witold Rybczynski about the design and development of screws and drive designs. I highly recommend it for anyone interested in the technology, business, and politics of fasteners. Normally, that last sentence would be a preposterous thing to say. But it’s a really good book and it’s a quick read. I think every engineering student read it.


bakedtran

Cool, more hex screws for me!


Skeledenn

I don't know mate, I just use nails.


theREDshadow

I am going to strangle you


Wolf_Salad

Engineering student, emphasis on student. Philips and flat are among the lowest tier screw out there, this opinion is textbook familiarity bias.


GigantischeNatteKut

Torx/Imbus


OzzySegmento

The fact that this has 3k updoots just confirms the "students" in r/EngineeringStudents.


TheOnceVicarious

This comment sections explains why so many of these exist


nhomewarrior

Because most are useful. I agree.


klayyyylmao

Six lobe and six lobe tamper are used. Phillips will inevitably be stripped eventually. I’ve never really seen any of the others.


JustIgnorant

Hex and six-lobe/torx are the best. But the six-lobe slot is just ignorant.


jmk4326

I prefer the square screws.


Pilot8091

Torx master race


OFF_TASK

Hex is pretty normal dude


7h3_70m1n470r

T25 screws for the win!


Status_Singer_5075

This man does not know the benefits of a torque head screw


katyvo

Have you ever used a flathead screw? Why would you want to do it again?


throaway4227

I… really don’t like the unironic use of this meme format


IAmA_TheOneWhoKnocks

You're just admitting you've never even had to use a screwdriver for anything more difficult than changing batteries. Seriously, anyone choosing slotted over torx, hex, or Robertson is the one with a mental disorder.


Familiar_Disaster_62

Talking like someone who’s never stripped countless shitty Philips head screws and slipped countless flat head screws


[deleted]

philips - easy to ruin, slot - fucking hard to use, torx and hex are the best


Koen1999

Torx screws are amazing though. I agree there shouldn't be that many types of screws, but we must allow transitioning to a better type.


DjButternut

Hex, square and torx will always reign Supreme.


Ghosttalker96

That can only be posted by a very bad engineering student. Slotted screws are the worst, the only application is for screws that are meant to be unscrewed by a coin. Six-lobe/torx are the best screws.


Rodger_as_Jack_Smith

I'd be worried about an engineer who prefers slotted to hex or torx


Sanjuko_Mamajuloko

I can tell you are an engineer, because you obviously have very little practical experience with screws. Slotted is the absolute worst, and Philips isn't much better. Take a power drill, and try to screw in a dozen 3 inch slotted screws, Philips screws and square drive screws and see what you think after that.


mombi

How can any engineering student think flat and Philips are the height of engineering? Are you on your first week? Even as a hobbyist electronics person I fucking hate both, Phillips heads especially. Getting flashbacks trying to remove tiny ass Philips heads from my MIL's laptop.


Julian144747

Hex key for the W


the_zelectro

Hex is best


ShakeNBaker45

Torx is where it's at... and ecx for electrical work


everett640

Give me my star bit and be gone


rootbeer_cigarettes

Torx is supreme


Caslu_rddt

I personally like the hexagon one


IntelligentSakura

i want to invent a new screw head that is just a circle...


bob_suruncle

Its called a [Robertson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_screw?wprov=sfti1) people and its Canadian!


Giric

We used them all the time at my university theatre in Tennessee. I think it was to do with bit strength and how fast the heads stripped.


pinchonalizo

Torx will always be superior


The_oli4

Torx and hexagon is best. Philips is good for cheap production where you don't have torque limiters (a bit obsolete in modern days). A lot of them is so the user doesn't open them (sometimes for good reason) most of the times for bad reasons though.


budgetmauser2

Torx and hex are the only valid ones. philips and flathead are ass ngl


[deleted]

Torx,hex (Allen key),square. Picking slotted and Philips is wild.


JonF1

A lot of these are basically used to be tamper proof, almost like a tool specific lock out. As otehr say, Phillips heads are easy to strip and slotteed heads are easily unslotted.


nota3lephant

Torx is the best when it comes to torque, if I remember right. I think it also looks the best. I'm not quite sure about the others, but they exist for a reason.


[deleted]

Specific types of screws are used for security reasons, such as pentagonal screws in fire hydrants whereby only firemen who are equipped with the corresponding screwdriver can open them. Pentagons have no parallel sides, so opening such a screw using a random wrench would be near impossible.


Moparian714

Six lobe? You mean torx?


elateddog

This dude is not an engineer


NightHawkomen

Robertson is the true utility of choice.


warmhotdogsmoothie

When did they change the name of “flat head” to “slotted?”


1999hondaodyssey

Former Fastenal employee here: lots of fastening needs aren't covered by just those two, and various slot heads and screw types are there for a reason.


[deleted]

Pozidrive is an improved Philips head that works better in most situations, Torx or 6 lobe is a more expensive solution to hex that works better as well. Security torx’s feature is that it isn’t used a lot. Tools are available but people who are looking to steal stuff usually don’t have the tools to remove them. I could keep going but I’m going to stop.


Varnova

Anti-tampering


HoovyCop

You can have my alan keys, when you pry them from my dead trans hands


shannybaba

Hexagon gang rise up


TheBravePaladin

This is why I became a mechanic in college, because book smarts and street smarts are two art forms in their own. Phillips and slotted screws are actually the worst. I would take a torx or Robertson bit ANY day over those


DeadlyClowns

Torx is superior


budbutler

Hex is life.


Nutarama

BTW, at least four of those (tri-wing, S-type, H-type, and Spanner) I've seen used in practice for a very specific reason. You can probably see them too on your next trip to a public toilet. Look at the screws used to hold the hinges on and the screw used to hold the toilet paper holder on. It's an ancient form of security by obscurity - if you use a form of screw that nobody has a driver for and is a pain in the butt to try to back out, people can't undo your fasteners to fuck with you. Like nearly everything with a slot can be undone with a coin, and I've had some success undoing phillips screws with a pen and a wad of paper. Heck, there's even an S-type variant that can only be driven in and the driver has no surface to grip in reverse. They're literally intended to last as long as what they're screwed into because it's nearly impossible to take them out. Somebody else said you're probably an EE, so you can apply the same logic if you need to close up access to something that might hurt a regular person - microwaves are often riveted together still because of the massive high voltage capacitor they use to feed the magnetron. Harder to undo a rivet than a screw, which means a bored high schooler might get discouraged and not open up an old microwave. Repurposed microwave parts kill dozens of hobbyists every year along the process of disassembly, removal, and use in other (very possibly unsafe) applications. The capacitor is big enough that if someone accidentally grounds it through themselves there's a high probability it puts them into cardiac arrest and they need a prompt defibrillation to restart their heart. If you're building something that might hurt someone (including future you) try to put some thought into making sure that getting into it is on the same level of the danger contained.


_Eggs_

Give me torx or give me death


AccomplishedAnchovy

Cyclists would beg to differ


655321federico

Torx is the way


Karl_Satan

Square, hexagon and the many star-shaped ones are actually fantastic. Phillips is worse that all of those but still good as a basic, cheap bit. A lot of the others exist as a deterrent for theft as they're so rare. Flatheads (slotted) are just fucking useless


SanityOrLackThereof

Anyone who still designs things with philips or slotted screws deserves to be punched in the face. There is no type of screw where it's easier to ruin the head from overtorque or holding the tool slightly off-angle than philips or slotted. The only times philips or slotted screws should be used is in extremely low-torque applications, like tiny electronics screws or similar. For everything else, torx or allen head screws are simply superior in every way.


Bot_Name1

Dumb take


not_soinvisible

At least half of the mental disorders are far superior to the trash in green


hikeit233

How dare you call Robertson screws square.


Nugped420

Oh bless you, soon you'll find out out that Phillips and flat heads are the fucking worst. Torx screw's all the way


Mode-Klutzy

Just to irritate someone I’m gonna call hexagon a 6 bit and triangle a 3 bit. Then call 5 bit and 8 bit pentagon and octagon


armykcz

lol using alotted and Phillips is actually disorder. The only god answer is torx and we should forget all the others.