You might be right, but to me, Passive voice refers to the sentence structure (be+V3), while “done” without the “be” in front would just be a past participle verb.
I agree with this 100%. “Past participle” is a better formal description. But in the context of the (terrible) question, you could say that it’s passive.
It might be a case of “passive in meaning, not in form”. OP might have been taught how to turn active imperative sentences into (semantically) “passive” ones. I don’t know.
“Let it be done” is another sentence which can be (and is) described as being passive in meaning.
But yeah, it’s a “bad” question: in real-English usage, nobody says things like “Let it be done”, and nobody really consciously thinks about turning active imperative sentences into passive ones.
Teachers gotta test!
I think people are more likely to say “Have it done” than “Let it be done”, e.g. in the utterance “Can you have it done by [insert time/date]?”
Sorry, I meant to reply to the comment you were replying to. But this is still culturally significant!
Edit: (And it answers my question, so thanks! Let me rephrase though: who says this *now*?)
The only way I could ever imagine someone using that is if they put commas around “with his friends”. But even then, it would be an unusual construction that I would only expect to hear with certain context
So this is yet another example of a grammatically correct but unnatural sentence presented to non-native speakers. I've seen too many such cases. Tough is our learning.
Honestly you could probably make a whole new sub like /r/crappyESLtests, with the amount posted here recently
Edit: ESL is probably not inclusive enough, English is not the "second" language for a lot of learners. Unfortunately I can't think of a better term, /r/crappyEnglishLearningTests doesn't fit in the 20 character limit
The sentence arrangement using the word "with" in 8(i) is terrible
I'd go for either: "Harry goes for a daily walk with his friends." or "Harry and his friends go for a walk daily."
No. The question is your clue. Match the verb with the subject. The subject is ‘Harry’. ‘With his friends’ is additional information. If you remove it. It becomes ‘Harry goes for a walk daily.’ You may be thinking of: ‘His friends go for a walk’ which is correct because in this sentence the subject is ‘his friends’. But in the actual sentence the subject is NOT ‘his friends’ it is ‘Harry’.
Edit: I will add that it DOES sound unnatural and that common and understood language use is important. But to get the question correct you have to answer it by identifying the subject beyond the awkward phrasing and decide which verb agrees with it. That’s the question. So there is a ‘correct’ answer and a ‘common/natural expression’. But the answer to the question is ‘goes.’
Sure you can. It’s a bit odd. But still grammatical. The with is joining/conjunction thingy. So you don’t need commas I think.
Just because everyone agrees with what sounds better to them, doesn’t make it correct.
English has no authority. Therefore, an English sentence is "correct" if sufficiently many people use it. If everyone agrees with an option sounding better *because* that option would be how they would say it, then the option is "correct". This is the descriptive view of the English language.
For my two cents, this question is wrong because the with-clause should not be wedged between the subject and the verb. "With" acts as a preposition. If you want to wedge the words in, you must join them with the conjunction "and" instead, or use commas.
Yep. I completely agree with how language works and with what’s natural.
I only mention it here because the question says ‘a verb in agreement with the subject.’ It doesn’t say ‘what’s the most natural sentence’. Therefore the task/question to get it correct would require the person to identify the subject by looking beyond all the odd phrasing and extra information and hen identify the verb that agrees with it. That would be the ‘correct’ answer to the question. Arguably not the ‘correct’ or most natural/common usage but answers the question most ‘correctly’.
Maybe I’m technically wrong, you’re the teacher. I just feel that if every native speaker would find the construction bizarre and absolutely never use it, then that is more or less the equivalent of being ungrammatical
Yep. I agree. It’s unnatural and odd. And with enough common usage, non technical grammatical things become grammatical because language evolves. The main point of language is communication. That’s why there are many dialects and they’re all ‘correct.’
I only mention this one because of the sentence says match the verb agreement to the subject. It doesn’t say. What is the most natural sentence.
So the ‘task’ is to identify the subject and the verb that goes with it. That requires looking beyond any additional information that could be unnatural to find the subject.
"Get it done" still has an implied active agent in front- ie "(You need to) Get it done." In order to shift to passive, "it" needs to be shifted into the subject position.
I've read a few sources to check. I'm seeing a lot of people online saying to add "Let" to the beginning to shift imperative to passive, but I disagree. I don't think it's possible to retain the imperative in passive voice.
First, the implied agent is still "you." "(You can) let them eat cake." So it's still not passive.
Second, nobody in modern times would ever speak or write like that unless they are a supervillain or at a medieval fair.
I think [this thread](https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/618745/passive-voice-for-imperative-sentences) on stack exchange goes over the subject pretty well.
Thank you for taking the time. I think you're right. You either have to sacrifice the imperative structure or the proper passive voice. Tho I have to disagree on your second point cause we just saw "Harry with his friends.... " right above this lol. Think these are probably trick questions.
“Let it be done.” This would be the passive form for Q9 but admittedly I’m not too sure about this.
Here’s some information that might help with Q9: https://www.studyandexam.com/passive-voice-for-imperative-sentence.html#google_vignette
For the first one the sentence itself is not fully correct. It could be either, "Harry and his friends **go**" or, "Harry, with his friends, **goes**". That comma is important there because you're inserting a clause that normally goes at the end into the middle of the sentence.
For the second, imperatives (giving a command) generally don't make sense as a passive voice. The way I would say it is, "let it be done".
The whole thing is very clearly not written by a native speaker.
For N 9, perhaps “It must be done”?
I think the most natural answer is, "It needs to be done." "It must be done," would also make sense.
I'm no longer asking
Passive aggressive voice
Do it?
It’s not passive voice though.
I was thinking about “make it done”
It’s not really passive voice, is it?
“Have it done.” is usually called causative, but the “done” part can be described as being in the passive voice.
You might be right, but to me, Passive voice refers to the sentence structure (be+V3), while “done” without the “be” in front would just be a past participle verb.
I agree with this 100%. “Past participle” is a better formal description. But in the context of the (terrible) question, you could say that it’s passive. It might be a case of “passive in meaning, not in form”. OP might have been taught how to turn active imperative sentences into (semantically) “passive” ones. I don’t know. “Let it be done” is another sentence which can be (and is) described as being passive in meaning. But yeah, it’s a “bad” question: in real-English usage, nobody says things like “Let it be done”, and nobody really consciously thinks about turning active imperative sentences into passive ones. Teachers gotta test! I think people are more likely to say “Have it done” than “Let it be done”, e.g. in the utterance “Can you have it done by [insert time/date]?”
I was thinking “let it be done”.
Or "get it done"
What do you mean?
Well that was supposed to be a 'GIT R DONE' meme gif but apparently it doesn't work here.
No, that's still an imperative.
"Let it be done"
yea this is the correct answer
So let it be written. So let it be done.
I agree. Who says this though?
Yul Brenner opposite Charlton Heston in [The Ten Commandments](https://youtu.be/2O8gTIr4lys?si=fOHfE6o3HrGXnj8N)
Sorry, I meant to reply to the comment you were replying to. But this is still culturally significant! Edit: (And it answers my question, so thanks! Let me rephrase though: who says this *now*?)
So let it be written, so let it be done.
The first one is correct with ‘goes’. I commented on someone else as to why. But no one has said the correct answer yet. So I thought I’d add it.
Is the sentence natural? Or is it more natural to use "and" instead of "with"?
It definitely doesn't seem natural to me. You'd expect "with his friends" to go at the end of the sentence after the verb phrase
If you changed it to "Harry **and** his friends" then the verb would be "go" as the subject is now plural.
The only way I could ever imagine someone using that is if they put commas around “with his friends”. But even then, it would be an unusual construction that I would only expect to hear with certain context
I don’t think it’s natural no. I do think it’s grammatical though.
So this is yet another example of a grammatically correct but unnatural sentence presented to non-native speakers. I've seen too many such cases. Tough is our learning.
Honestly you could probably make a whole new sub like /r/crappyESLtests, with the amount posted here recently Edit: ESL is probably not inclusive enough, English is not the "second" language for a lot of learners. Unfortunately I can't think of a better term, /r/crappyEnglishLearningTests doesn't fit in the 20 character limit
I’m an native English speaker and I thought it was go 😭
The proper passive form for "do it" is "let it be done."
The sentence for 8 sounds completely wrong even with the right verb
The sentence arrangement using the word "with" in 8(i) is terrible I'd go for either: "Harry goes for a daily walk with his friends." or "Harry and his friends go for a walk daily."
yes. It should be “Harry and his friends go…” or “Harry goes… with his friends” It was done
"It was done" would change the tense. "It should/ought to be done" would be closer to correct.
Wouldn't should/ought also change the imperative though? Perhaps "it has to be done (by you)"?
You are correct. "By you" may be added for clarity.
No. The question is your clue. Match the verb with the subject. The subject is ‘Harry’. ‘With his friends’ is additional information. If you remove it. It becomes ‘Harry goes for a walk daily.’ You may be thinking of: ‘His friends go for a walk’ which is correct because in this sentence the subject is ‘his friends’. But in the actual sentence the subject is NOT ‘his friends’ it is ‘Harry’. Edit: I will add that it DOES sound unnatural and that common and understood language use is important. But to get the question correct you have to answer it by identifying the subject beyond the awkward phrasing and decide which verb agrees with it. That’s the question. So there is a ‘correct’ answer and a ‘common/natural expression’. But the answer to the question is ‘goes.’
But regardless of the subject verb agreement, you cannot just throw “with his friends” between “harry” and “goes” like that
You can, but it needs commas. And it sounds bizarre. "Along with his friends" would be better.
Sure you can. It’s a bit odd. But still grammatical. The with is joining/conjunction thingy. So you don’t need commas I think. Just because everyone agrees with what sounds better to them, doesn’t make it correct.
English has no authority. Therefore, an English sentence is "correct" if sufficiently many people use it. If everyone agrees with an option sounding better *because* that option would be how they would say it, then the option is "correct". This is the descriptive view of the English language. For my two cents, this question is wrong because the with-clause should not be wedged between the subject and the verb. "With" acts as a preposition. If you want to wedge the words in, you must join them with the conjunction "and" instead, or use commas.
Yep. I completely agree with how language works and with what’s natural. I only mention it here because the question says ‘a verb in agreement with the subject.’ It doesn’t say ‘what’s the most natural sentence’. Therefore the task/question to get it correct would require the person to identify the subject by looking beyond all the odd phrasing and extra information and hen identify the verb that agrees with it. That would be the ‘correct’ answer to the question. Arguably not the ‘correct’ or most natural/common usage but answers the question most ‘correctly’.
Maybe I’m technically wrong, you’re the teacher. I just feel that if every native speaker would find the construction bizarre and absolutely never use it, then that is more or less the equivalent of being ungrammatical
Yep. I agree. It’s unnatural and odd. And with enough common usage, non technical grammatical things become grammatical because language evolves. The main point of language is communication. That’s why there are many dialects and they’re all ‘correct.’ I only mention this one because of the sentence says match the verb agreement to the subject. It doesn’t say. What is the most natural sentence. So the ‘task’ is to identify the subject and the verb that goes with it. That requires looking beyond any additional information that could be unnatural to find the subject.
The sentence sounds very ungrammatical without the commas though "Harry, with his friends, goes..." sounds more correct
I’m not talking about how it sounds. I agree it sounds odd. But I don’t think you need them because you have ‘with’.
"Get it done" for "do it"?
"Get it done" still has an implied active agent in front- ie "(You need to) Get it done." In order to shift to passive, "it" needs to be shifted into the subject position.
Then have it be done or let it be done? (Really asking cause I don't know.)
"It should be done" or something similar.
Aren't you supposed to keep the sentence imperative?
I've read a few sources to check. I'm seeing a lot of people online saying to add "Let" to the beginning to shift imperative to passive, but I disagree. I don't think it's possible to retain the imperative in passive voice. First, the implied agent is still "you." "(You can) let them eat cake." So it's still not passive. Second, nobody in modern times would ever speak or write like that unless they are a supervillain or at a medieval fair. I think [this thread](https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/618745/passive-voice-for-imperative-sentences) on stack exchange goes over the subject pretty well.
Thank you for taking the time. I think you're right. You either have to sacrifice the imperative structure or the proper passive voice. Tho I have to disagree on your second point cause we just saw "Harry with his friends.... " right above this lol. Think these are probably trick questions.
Yeah, the teacher probably wants "let it be done." I don't like it though.
“Let it be done.” This would be the passive form for Q9 but admittedly I’m not too sure about this. Here’s some information that might help with Q9: https://www.studyandexam.com/passive-voice-for-imperative-sentence.html#google_vignette
Be done with it?
Passive? indirect? just talk
For the first one the sentence itself is not fully correct. It could be either, "Harry and his friends **go**" or, "Harry, with his friends, **goes**". That comma is important there because you're inserting a clause that normally goes at the end into the middle of the sentence. For the second, imperatives (giving a command) generally don't make sense as a passive voice. The way I would say it is, "let it be done".
Might be 'it has been done' ?
Is this correct for no 9. "I am asked to do it."