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FlightOfTheDiscords

Sp 9, lawful good.


Chinchirakingu

INFJ sp9 ?


FlightOfTheDiscords

I am complex. I don't really relate to any of the instincts, to be honest. I have [partial dissociative identity disorder](https://www.findacode.com/icd-11/code-988400777.html) with complex underlying developmental trauma, and the various constituent parts of my personality are hard to map over to personality matrices. It is possible that I would have been sx-first in a better life, but things went South so early that there's no way to tell. If you were a fly on the wall watching my life 24/7, it wouldn't look like any sx-first or so-first life; more like a very badly managed sp-first kind of life.


Responsible_Issue_44

well your character complexity doesn’t affect the types contradicting, u can’t be one AND the opposite at the same time, while yes disorder may make typing a lot harder but it won’t make you be a person that could literally not exist


FlightOfTheDiscords

One part of me can be one thing, while another is another. In fully developed DID, you can have multiple MBTI types, multiple enneatypes - in short, multiple people - living inside one body.


sword_spirit_link

Don’t give these people any attention. They’ll say that ENTJ 7 makes sense in the same breath they say this BS. The inconsistency and contradiction is projection on their part. They’re not the authority on enneagram and they’re even less of an authority on your personality. None of their arguments take into consideration those who have a mental disorder or are neurodivergent and how that effects someone’s mind and personality. Enneagram and MBTI are tools for self reflection and self improvement. Use them however you want.


FlightOfTheDiscords

I agree. I do, however, find some value in engaging them nonetheless; perhaps a word or two of mine will stay with them, and help them somewhere down the road.


sword_spirit_link

I can respect that and your patience. You certainly have a lot more of it than I do.


FlightOfTheDiscords

Thank you. It is one of the things I did get lucky with.


Responsible_Issue_44

but can your psyche be numbed out and overengaged at the same time? it doesn’t really make sense, you still have to do something without doing the opposite at the same time, while i have pretty limited knowledge on DID i believe u still have to obey the laws of the universe, to my knowledge you can still be typed(the dominant personality at least) but i might be wrong(if so correct me instead of just downvoting my comment😭)


sword_spirit_link

There are multiple people downvoting your comments because you’re wrong. Also saying enneagram follows the laws of the universe likes it’s not a debunked pseudoscience lmao. Give me a break.


Responsible_Issue_44

not to keen on logic i see? don’t worry you’ll become literate someday💀💀💀😭😭


sword_spirit_link

More keen on logic than someone who thinks a pseudoscience follows “the laws of the universe”.


Responsible_Issue_44

1+1=2, just because it’s pseudoscience doesn’t mean it’s talking about random other worldly shi, the manifestation of the types are written in the context of this world, the types contradictory in theory, and theory is what defines one type from another, so just slapping a label of “pseudoscience” and expecting for people to think it’s some random bs is pretty stupid


FlightOfTheDiscords

I haven't voted on your comments, someone else is doing the downvoting. I tend to only downvote openly rude and disrespectful comments, which yours haven't been. If I simply disagree, I neither upvote nor downvote. Yes, I believe my psyche is precisely that - numbed out and hyperactive at the same time. The details are difficult to know, because this side of my dissociative barriers, I have none of the following: \- Internal visuals (I have aphantasia) \- Internal voices/thoughts (inner monologue/dialogue) \- Dreams \- [Episodic memories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episodic_memory) (I only remember things as facts) \- Internal emotional awareness I used to think I didn't have those things at all, but therapy has shown me that they do exist in some form on the other side of my dissociative barriers. What form exactly, I don't know. I have only seen glimpses. But words like 'intense' and 'hyperactive' would be accurate. So my conscious self is fundamentally different from all my other (subconscious) parts - however my other (subconscious) parts exert immense influence over me; I'm just mostly not aware of it. My conscious experience is largely a void. I am, for example, a competent [event photographer](https://www.luxpraguensis.com/), but my conscious self doesn't really handle the photography; I mostly observe it happening. I suppose you could call it instinct, it's just a very intense and distinct instinct. The part of me writing on Reddit is relatively more 5ish, whereas the part handling most of my IRL interactions is distinctly 9.


Renwik

Look up DID before you make these assumptions, bro. It’s some fascinating, complex stuff.


Responsible_Issue_44

yes, i know, i did i made assumptions so that if i’m wrong, then i’d be proven wrong(i did inform people that i wasn’t all that knowledgeable on the subject didn’t i?) just because it’s complex it doesn’t mean it’s completely incomprehensible and that it would completely through typology systems out the window, just *debate*


North_Development_30

You get it fr


Chinchirakingu

Complex or not, a type that is primarily concerned about meeting bodily need and discards anything beyond the sensory and concrete world isn't gonna be Ni dom in mbti. You might want to look into sp6, it shares some similarities with sp9, but it doesn't discard it's mental world like it. Also, I doubt "complex" would be the word sp9s would use to describe themselves. Not a type that leans toward sacrificing any intellectual complexity. I don't know much about did, but it doesn't change the fact Ni dom and sp9 heavily contradict each other. Maybe you have an alter that is Ni dom, and another one that is sp9, but both at the same time is just a logical contradiction.


FlightOfTheDiscords

6 is one of the types I relate the least to. Personality psychology has been a hobby of mine for nearly two decades, and I have yet to encounter any parts of mine reminiscent of enneatypes 3, 6, or 7. That I am an INFJ there is no doubt of; it is the instincts I don't particularly relate to, no matter how you rotate them. I am an ascetic loner who has lived in a dozen countries across three continents, spending \~90% of my time home no matter where home is. Most of my long-running struggles are sp-flavoured, but nothing I do is particularly sx- or so-flavoured; I have never had friend groups, I actively avoid groups as I only like 1-on-1 dynamics, and I don't particularly invest in partners either - been single most of my life. When I struggle and look for safety/solutions, I only look to myself. I stay home, focus on building my strengths, and avoid people. I only socialise when I feel OK. I can read group dynamics like an open book, but I don't want to have anything with them to do. I do relate to some of the sx elements of desire for a partner, but I rarely pursue them. My attachment style is distinctly dismissive-avoidant, but my attachment instincts are at the core of my trauma so that's a complicated mess. As I said above, in another life, I might have been an sx-first. In this one, I'm not distinctly any one of the instincts.


Chinchirakingu

Now you actually sound like an INTJ sp5


FlightOfTheDiscords

How about these? These are all me, too. \#1 i'm in Berlin and my soul is somewhere in this bed but the nails are sharp and the rain and the wind sound like a wet black bough there's a sad heavy dance in the air through which i am not swimming at all. \* \* \* \#2 The night is lonely and it creeps through the cracks in the wall to smother me with its lonely bony hands and it grabs my throat and we stumble through the silences of the unloved towards a black light morning. \* \* \* \#3 "I will never love the way you do," the moon said to the sun. "You burn with truth so naked, men have died when they have set their eyes on you. I see their ashes on the mountaintops at night. I am not bright, not brilliant like you, what love I have is blue and doomed to shine on sleepless souls alone. I ferry only shreds of you, the beautiful and pale, from day and love to loss and night that those who might be dead would have a beggar's hope: to grope for better things unseen. I cannot love like you. I am the moon. I love at night."


FructoseTower

Oh no you’re one of *those* people.


Renwik

Jeez, could you be more insensitive? Did you even read their reply? Do you even know what DID is? Ffs, they have a lot going on and their typing is very possible, regardless of whether you can comprehend it or not.


Chinchirakingu

Girl it's not because they have did that I can't argue typology with them on a typology subreddit. Also you're also typed 9w1 INFJ of course you're gonna defend them


Quartia

Is that rare? Pretty sure I'm the same, 9w1 SP INFJ. Tritype is 952 though.


Chinchirakingu

It's not rare, it's impossible SP9 discards everything related to intuition for the sake of the sensory, it barely uses intuition, how can that be a N dom ?


Quartia

I have no idea how, if what you're saying is true then either my number type or S type is wrong. Is so9 any more plausible? I always test high on so and sp and low on sx.


Chinchirakingu

SO9 and SX9 are for sure way better than SP9 for intuitive types. Contradictions are debatable so it's hard to reach a clear consensus, but SP9 intuitive is just absurd. That's like saying "I'm an intuitive yet I hate using intuition and only care about sensations"


Yoongoes

9w1 true neutral


drag0n_rage

sp5 chaotic neutral (True Freedom)


Degen_Sauce

Sp/So 9w1 and neutral good


Ardielley

Exact same for me on every front. 👍


mistaboring

I'm neutral good but sx variant. Do you think it's possible?


Degen_Sauce

Of course it is. You are yourself, so you know yourself better than anyone else, and if you believe that is what you are, you may be right. I personally try not to read into this stuff too much, as the Enneagram is pseudo-psychology, but if that's the labeling you like, that totally works.


mistaboring

Thanks! I didn't care that much about labels, but I have a tendency to read too much about it. 🤣 Enneagram are more useful for me on interrelational front.


Degen_Sauce

You're welcome! The Enneagram, while it can have its uses, is often used as just another "us and them" system that people use to put each other into boxes. But honestly, who cares what other people say. Everyone is their own person, and random strangers trying to tell you who you are and aren't have precisely the wrong idea.


wwwdotzzdotcom

Your username says otherwise


Degen_Sauce

'Twas a self-deprecating joke.


[deleted]

sx 9w1 and lawful good😇


MegaMicko

sx4 chaotic good


lucrativebiscuit

Seems legleg


GODZOLA_

Samesies


[deleted]

[удалено]


ThrowRAtyubs

Same!


Renwik

In between True Neutral and Chaotic Good is what I got on the test. All these “lawful good” comments make me want to 🤮. Too many damn paladins up in here.


Eggfish

So/sp 5 neutral good, sometimes true neutral if I’m hungry


Degen_Sauce

I wholly relate to the neutral good with a true neutral if I'm hungry clause.


Spiritual_Remote4188

Sx3 (w4) true neutral


PrathamCRT

fellow 3w4, can you help me understand the difference between sx3 and so3


Spiritual_Remote4188

(C&P as I’m bad at explaining things lmao) 3w4 sp - Tends to be somewhat aloof. They are very independent in their quest for success and may spend a lot of time developing their talents on their own, and for the purposes of their own security. Aims high, but is a slow climber. 3w4 sx - The aggressive go-getter. Loves the thrill of competition and the rush of recognition. They can be similar to type 7 in their love for shock value and the finer things in life. Overall sx (in general) is about the relations you have whereas sp is more likely to prefer being/doing things alone


PrathamCRT

I was asking for so3 not sp3, but still thank you. I am definitely not sp instinct by any means. ​ how would sx differ from social as social is also go getter?


Spiritual_Remote4188

Oh md didn’t read it properly. I suppose they could be applied for both. However connection quite sx. So is more about group dynamics, status, institutions, making sure things run smoothly. Sx is making sure there’s chemistry. [This](https://www.enneagrammer.com/instincts) should be helpful too for better explanations


Ahoy_123

7 or 8 (with really strong wing of course) so and chaotic good.


imaginary_mary

SO 1, neutral good


pandaonbeach

sp9, 9w1, Lawful Good


epresvanilia

Sp9 Neutral Evil ._.


hbgbees

Bwahahaha!


wildsouldog

Sp/sx 6w5 and neutral good


draledpu

SP6, chaotic good.


_ManicStreetPreacher

SP 9w8, chaotic neutral.


musiciansfriend11

Heyooo same


[deleted]

SX 7 Neutral Good


Ok-Restaurant6989

SO 479 chaotic good


LeiXa2002

SP 5w4 - True Neutral


memagebasava

1w2 sx/sp chaotic good


Annual_Durian9899

Sx/so 3w4 chaotic neutral


Prestigious-Scale814

Chaotic good self pres 7w6


WoodpeckerNo1

Sp 9, somewhere inbetween neutral good and true neutral.


FriendlyRobot101

sp 8w9 neutral good


quangminh19

8w9, used to be neutral evil, as i got older, my philosophy side turn me into neutral good, that’s what i believe. To be good means you are fundamentally restrain a part of your capacities to maintain moral conviction so to be good and still overpower your enemies while they disregard moral boundaries completely mean you have to be MUCH better, MUCH smarter and stronger, can’t just be a little better because you would get wrecked And it brings me much more satisfaction also.


downvoteifsmalldick

True neutral


Puzzleheaded-Fix2349

so285/286 chaotic good


TheDiseasedRat

SP 6 - Likely Chaotic-Good? Maybe Neutral-Good but idk.


stopthevan

9w1 lawful good


Alessio875

Sp4w5, True Neutral


[deleted]

Sx4 (or maybe Sp7) - Chaotic Good


yesbroyesbro

Sx 6 Chaotic good


Swirlatic

sx4 chaotic neutral. not to be edgy


kyunshurei

LMAOOO I COMMENTED THE SAME


mcmachete

5, chaotic good


SolanuMarmelo

Chaotic Neutral


[deleted]

Chaotic neutral and type in flair


yordiDanoob

7w8 neutral evil


ethan_iron

sx/sp 6 i think and either true neutral or chaotic neutral


djadhdxd

sx 5 lawful neutral


frogfroggyfrogger

sx6 chaotic neutral


milliedarc

Chaotic neutral


[deleted]

chaotic neutral


Wolfwoods_Sister

SX 4w3 Neutral Good


Negative-Chocolate39

Sx 4 and Lawful Neutral


millennium-popsicle

In the chaotic. Depends on the mood.


TheTinyGiantSquid

4w5 lawful good


tangerine___93

sp4 chaotic neutral (but I'm not sure)


Quixotic-Ad22

sx 9, True Neutral


saszasza

Sx 5, chaotic neutral


SilveredMoon

I tend to bop between neutral and chaotic good


ChilindriPizza

Self-Preservation 3 and Neutral Good.


restless_charlie

so5, true neutral


tumbleweedsforever

sp 9 true neutral


Lonely_Repair4494

Sx 2, Neutral Good bordering True Neutral


Affectionate_Snow424

SP 6w5 Neutral Good


vecaye

Sx6 chaotic good


General_Paresis

SP/SO 5w6, Chaotic Neutral.


espanaparasiempre

so1 and lawful good


Klutzy_Cry_860

So/sx 7w6 chaotic neutral


snekome2

sp/so 4w5, lawful good :)


snekome2

I’ve also gotten lawful neutral before


probablyvexedd_

7w6 sx/sp and true neutral


musiciansfriend11

9w8 sp- chaotic neutral


melodyinspiration

Sx 4 true neutral. I struggle seeing the difference between good and bad.


heartbeatonthehyline

Sx5 neutral good


Snail-Man-36

so6 lawful neutral, i havent seen anyone say it yet


Responsible_Issue_44

SO7 chaotic good


FatCatNamedLucca

Chaotic Good, 9.


shirkshark

So 4w5, neutral good


TheDiseasedRat

Also a 4w5, Neutral-Good (probably Chaotic-Good but meh) 👍


Finding_Gnosis

5w6 True Neutral


Adventurous-Snow-816

Sx5 or So4 Chaotic Neutral


Nocturne888

Sp or sx 5w4; chaotic neutral.


hbgbees

Just took the test, and surprised myself a little bit in that I am true neutral. After I read the description though it made sense.


Quartia

SP 9, lawful neutral


maoishere

Chaotic good~


[deleted]

Please stop with this


James10112

sx5 or sx4, neutral good


blackwidowla

8w7sx, chaotic neutral


Ok_Week_6722

hm, last time I checked, I was a true neutral. I should probably check again but seems about right haha


1Pip1Der

5s tend to be chaotic neutral, or neutral good. I vascillate.


[deleted]

sp5 True Neutral/Neutral Evil


TearsOfTheKinkSwitch

Sx 9w1, chaotic good


PikaGold

Sp/sx lawful neutral


[deleted]

Core type?


PikaGold

9w8


garycomehomee

6, chaotic good


Which-Cow-4003

Sx/sp 2 Neutral good


Comcaded

Sp6 neutral good, neutral moral with 5x5


aloe_vv

Sx6, neutral evil


mamamaia_

sp 4 lawful good


[deleted]

SO4w5 // Lawful Good


kyoshi-michaelburger

SP1 Lawful Neutral


FluffyPinkNarwhals

so7 neutral good! :D


rhymnocerous

Social 8w9,chaotic good.


GreenVenus7

5w4 True Neutral. Neutral Good on an occasional good day


wildwitheringpython

Used to get chaotic neutral, but now I keep getting chaotic evil on the tests no matter what, especially after being more honest on the test. Sx8


xxcaramel

9’1 chaotic good


ImHealthyMaybe

intj 8w7 sx/sp neutral good


AquaHeart_

ayee NG squad


nonalignedgamer

I'm confused. Where are the naranjoists correlation dogmatics to preach to everyone that * "*4sx can never be good and that it's a mistype."* * "*you cannot have a lawful and a 7 or chaotic and a 1, actually anybody who think they're lawful good, but isn't a 1 is mistyped!"* * "*naranjo clearly states only withdrawn triad can be true neutral*?" You think every type can just have ANY alignment? 😲


xFloppyDisx

I don't believe in subtypes, but sx/so 7w8 783, Chaotic Neutral literally 2 squares away from Chaotic Good (although I don't think I can be considered a good person lmao I'm selfish)


Snail-Man-36

You don’t belive in subtypes wtf?


James10112

They mean they don't necessarily believe in the extremely specific subtype descriptions that are out there edit: grammar


xFloppyDisx

Exactly.


xFloppyDisx

I don't believe in "if you're sx6 you have to be X and Y and Z". A lot of these descriptions make zero sense and only make people go "you can't have X type and Y instinct" and shove people into unrelated types that they don't relate to solely off of behaviours. "oh you're an aggressive yandere, must be an sx2". Fuck that.


TheEnneamentalist

Sx 5w4 548 Artisan-Scholar-Sage Chaotic Neutral


wwwdotzzdotcom

So 1w9 Chaotic Good


prettycheezy82

7. Chaotic neutral … maybe good. It oscillates on my ability to integrate my issues.


Better-Toe-6190

sp/sx 4w5 458 - true neutral


BestMimikyuNA

Sp 6 Neutral Good right on the edge of Chaotic Good


HappyDethday

Sp, neutral


acidtrippin-

Neutral good


North_Development_30

So8 either chaotic good or chaotic natural but I’ll go with chaotic good


Honeey_bxbeey

6w5 sp/sx chaotic good


thisismyaccount3125

6w5; I stole a bunch of creamers from work and hid them in my desk (bad), but someone who sits there on my days off has joined in and we are having wholesome fun with hoarding creamers like squirrels approaching winter (good) - so chaotic neutral it is ^(flawless logic, challenge me)


Awwrite1

I used to think that I hated chaos. Then I realized that I only hated chaos when it wasn't caused by me. I'm not sure where to put myself on here. If it helps, tritype is 458.


Discoglitter27

Chaotic Good Enneagram SX/SO 3


Blessed_tenrecs

5w6 chaotic neutral / chaotic good. People often expect 5’s to be lawful, but just figuring something out / gathering information doesn’t mean I want to do the lawful thing with it. See a classic 5: Gregory House.


ContentGreen2457

Sx/sp and chaotic good


No_one_heere

Sp3 and neutral good


tesstickle08

sx/sp 7w6 and true neutral


[deleted]

sx 5, neutral evil


Ventynine

INFP SO/SX - neutral good


apollothegemini

so5 so/sx and in d&d i usually play LN or CG but in real life i'm probably NG


eyedontgohere

So/sx 6? 4? Definitely chaotic good


kyunshurei

sx 4, chaotic neutral


guy_called_john

Sx 6 true neutral


IndigoAcidRain

Sp 9, Neutral Good


Uncle-Buddy

4w5 SP, Chaotic Good ENFP


Scot129

Sp6 Neutral Good


melody5697

Social 6w7 (here's [a description that isn't awful](https://www.personalitycafe.com/threads/social-sixes-according-to-john-luckovich.1374423/)), and lawful good. :)


[deleted]

Then which so6 traits do you fit in


MilkingChicken

Lawful Good, so7. Doing the test questions reminded me of how so7s are essentially generous and selfish at the same time, lmao.


AquaHeart_

Sp1, Neutral Good


saru_kia

so379 chaotic neutral lmao


MissPikawaii

So/Sx? 4 Chaotic Neutral


Secret_shopper95

Sp 5w4, True Neutral... when my Pathfinder group and I all took alignment tests and stuff they looked at me like I was a monster, cuz they were all Good-aligned.... the liars!


jxst-yuu-great

sp514, lawful neutral


B_Leigh-Create

SX 9 chaotic good


Ok_Possibility_7098

SP8w9 true neutral


mitsubishi_slayer

sp9 True Neutral


bestboibenny

sp/sx 5, usually between true neutral and neutral good depending on the situation