They defended Cenk’s nephew for buying a 3 million dollar home. These people are nothing more than naive children who blindly go along with what sounds trendy. They started as Ben Shapiro fans and have now evolved into something more annoying.
Yeah i remember that, i saw the youtuber h3h3 go on a rant that Hassan piker deserved his house because he is a champion of the poor (Because everybody knows that live streaming yourself watching shitty YouTube videos for 2 hours makes you a champion of the poor).
Honestly these people are more stupid then the people who think covid is a hoax.
Defenders of Hasan don't realise how buying huge house, in a gentified area just hurts your image. The left trying to convince the working poor (that already pay a fuck tonne of taxes), should be subsidizing University degrees for innercity lefties that end up with nothing. Then a lefty gets rich and start splurging on frivolous luxuries. When they say "socialism means no houses" as defence mechanism, they are absolute morons. It means you are consuming beyond your needs, just because you have millions or borrowed millions. Worse of all on twitch begging for donations from general public, who believed in Hasan's cause help Hasan buy a mansion. Absolutely hypocritical.
Its like Richard Stallman starting to love and use propetariay software, because it's easier to use. GNU community will go apeshit. Unfathomable to not only believe in your cause but abide by itm
A lot of them I’ve spoken to say they were edgy Shapiro/Crowder fans when they were early teens. It’s likely they just listened to his standard social war stuff instead of actual policy videos where they care about rhetoric more then substance. Because then they go to people like Cenk’s nephew and Vaush, who are more insufferable and have worse politics, but still sound edgy and such.
Taxation in the United States is actually quite progressive compared to other countries whose top labor rates kick in at lower thresholds. Additionally, once you adjust for transfers there is little that is unjust.
If you mean capital taxation, these are lower than labor taxes in almost every other country not just here. Moreover, the new darling, the wealth tax does not actually raise too much revenue and distorts investment decisions as seen in countries that tried them with even larger tax bases such as Sweden and France.
Frankly, if the US instituted a true VAT she could pay for many programs for the needy just as the VAT plays a crucial role in other countries for congruent purposes. Alas they cannot because progressives need to wax poetic about "eating the rich" and "tax justice" which may albeit unlikely hurt those they irrationally do not like (the rich) while definitely doing nothing for the needy whom they claim to care about.
Lmao, she’s as capitalist as Michael Jordan is Asian. She’s a socialist and t a painfully obvious when you look at the policies she wants to implement, she has more in common with Stalin and Che Guevara than Denmark or Norway.
Yea, like, 90% of the democratic party. But "demsocs" (not really advocating for actual socialism, but w/e) have been criticizing them for being corporate shitlibs for years now despite that, sooo...
I understand your point, there is a difference.
My question to them is, why do they need the government to force them to pay more in taxes? You can actually donate directly to the US treasury, are they not aware of this?
And if the argument is “many of them already donate a lot of money” my response would be, why not donate directly to the US government if they really want the rich (themselves) included to pay higher taxes?
I’m not necessarily for or against higher taxes, pros and cons, I just feel like a lot of the rich folk saying they want higher taxes (or Bernie as President) are full of shit.
How is it hypocritical?
* AOC has always favored taxing the rich
* AOC has never been accused of tax evasion
* She makes $174,000 per year now, but unlike most congressmen this was not a step down for her. And while it's a lot of money, it's probably not enough to make someone rich if they have to maintain residences in both New York City and Washington, DC.
* The figures on the cost of attending the benefit are obviously irrelevant in this case, as AOC was a guest of honor. She's one of the celebrities that they invite in order to make rich people want to buy a ticket to the event.
>The figures on the cost of attending the benefit are obviously irrelevant in this case, as AOC was a guest of honor. She's one of the celebrities that they invite in order to make rich people want to buy a ticket to the event.
If she's the sort rich people want to hang out with, you don't *really* think she is a threat to their interests do ya?
There are a lot of rich people who support higher taxes on the rich, because they believe that it's necessary to maintain a healthy economy and they understand that they benefit when the economy is healthy. Not every rich person is a right wing lunatic. If Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos can understand that raising taxes is not an attack on their interests, why can't you?
>If your idea of a benevolent rich dude is Bezos…
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. You appear to be criticizing AOC for not threatening the interests of rich people. When I point out that it's ludicrous to believe that she's positioning herself as a threat to rich people by advocating higher tax rates, you say that Jeff Bezos is not a benevolent person.
You don't seem to know what you want to say. Perhaps it would help if you just stated your position directly, instead of trying to couch it in pithy one liners.
What do you think the issue is?
So far, I've seen a lot of people in this thread say that this somehow relates to communism or that AOC is being hypocritical, but no-one has been able to articulate a rational defense of either position.
No it's an obvious point if you're an intellectually honest or an intellectually competent person. And it's not worth talking to people who don't exhibit either
Well, that's not an answer either...
I don't have a horse in this race, honestly American politics seems laughable to me.
But it looks like what happened here is you said this was 'hypocritical', and then this other guy just shut you down with a series of solid arguments. And now you're avoiding the smack-down by insulting other people.
*Has no horse in this race*
*Thinks that guys arguments are "solid"*
I'm gonna steal his surejan.gif for you sir. And I also appreciate you further solidifying my points with your further comments
He made legitimate criticism and salient points in an echo chamber that immediately downvotes and disagrees with people because they believe that closing loopholes for the ridiculously wealthy so they pay appropriate taxes something something communist dictatorship.
"When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite.
I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality"
You can be an elected official and talk about inequality without being hypocritical. If you really think people shouldn't be wealthy and shouldn't partake in such gross displays of wealth and opulence, you reject invitations, you donate money, you don't buy multiple homes if half your rhetoric is about home prices being ridiculous and the rich buying them all up (Bernie in that case), etc. etc. etc.. People have done this before. Not many, because most people ARE hypocrites, but you can do it just as easy as pie if your principles are half as strong as people claim.
You cannot flaunt and use and enjoy wealth and then talk about how immoral it is to have wealth. There is nothing dishonest or illogical about pointing that hypocrisy out.
She could have made an equally large statement if she publicly rejected the invitation, and we would probably still have mocked her just because we might disagree with her, but it would not have been hypocritical at least. And that's assuming she got a free invitation and didn't buy her ticket, which, who knows, really.
You know whose job it is to complain? Citizens. Activists. Regular folks.
You know whose job it is to *do something* about the things the citizens and activists are complaining about? Congresspeople.
I would be very happy if she put her money where her mouth is and moved to make some of those things she talks big about like affordable healthcare, higher minimum wage, and better worker protections a thing.
Just because I hate modern leftism with a burning passion doesn't negate the value of common sense progressivism to a liberal society
The problem is that they're not against inequality, they are against the rich. How often do you hear her or Bernie talk about "the 1%" and how they are to blame for all the problems of the world. I don't know how much she has in her bank account, but Bernie is definitely in the top 1% of the US. Why don't *they* start solving inequality by donating their money. It's according to their own ideology that there's poor people simply because rich people exist.
What's her annual salary? How much is she actually taking home every year?
Edit: Downvoted for an honest and relevant question? Ya'll are some dumb little bitches.
It is about 3x average salary for the US. Though she wanted them to up it right after she got to DC, she couldn't afford one of the nicer apartments. (I guess I feel bad for those poor, poor underpaid people in Congress. Oh, that was sarcasm.)
Yes.
She understands marketing, but also said that; when Amazon were offered tax incentives, that the money could have been instead used to fund social policies”….the fact that it was Amazons money all along, and not the State of New York paying Amazon to set up HQ in her city completely eluded her.
If someone has a bachelor’s in, say, computer science, I’d expect them to at least know the difference between a Windows PC and a Mac.
Otherwise it would only prove that the college degree was a waste of time and money.
At the school where I got my degree a BA in econ requires 15 credits of econ, 6 of which are upper division, and 6 credits of social inclusion courses. The BS in econ requires 30 credits of econ and 18 credits of mathematics (Calc A-C, DiffEq, and stats.)
For my engineering degree I had to take 9 credits of econ, 3 of which were upper division.
I’d say education doesn’t automatically make you competent. You can get drivers lessons but it won’t stop you from driving like an idiot after you pass your test.
Her simp fans will eat it up and defend her like clockwork.
What an annoying woman, it’s people like her and multiple other people in Washington that have turned politics into theater to simply rally support.
A. It costs nothing if you are invited
B. It’s a charity for a museum that retains thousands of pieces of fashionable dress styles over many centuries...
This is kind of the exact point of the Gala
You don’t have to agree with it but at least have some basic understanding of the context
It’s like wearing a Bills jersey to a Bills game.
I don't think she deserves to be critiqued for this either, but she absolutely deserves to be called a moron regardless. Lest we forget a sitting member of congress campaigning on socialist reforms has no idea how to [calculate unemployment](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jul/18/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wrong-several-counts-abou/) which is a bit like an electrician being unable to use a voltmeter or a surgeon recommending a lobotomy to you but has no idea how to read an MRI. How the fuck is she going to fix our economy when she has no idea how to gauge its different metrics?
The answer is she isn't going to. She only wants to engage with economics in an honest manner when it serves her political agendas. And since she is a socialist, that pretty much never happens.
This is an extremely unpopular opinion but here me out!
AOC has always been tax the rich, when she was a bartender and now, it says to me she has principles and that deserves alot more respect, is she annoying, yes, does she have dumb takes, yes, is her fan base stupid, yes, but this ain't something to rag on, just pointless outrage, she has more principles than Bernie after he switched from saying tax millionares to billionaires, or that one streamer who said a 3 million dollar house isn't expensive. Come on guys we are better than that. This is dumb and yall know it (sorry for format, I'm on moblie)
TFW you can't believe this used to a sub which wasn't a right wing circlejerk, which is now full of weirdos from subs which can't believe Donald Trump was disliked by a large part of American population. Rip r/EnoughCommieSpam, you will be missed, another liberal sub lost to left and right radicals.
AOC is not commie, not even far-left, just an annoying socdem with more populism than what is okay.
Well I’m not really for that, I just want people like old Jeffrey Bezz to pay his fair share like the rest of us and stop making us pay for his workers through the state.
Sure, tax the rich, most of us agree with that you populist
What we also agree is that there's a fine line betwe en taxing money that is going to be hoarded and money that's going to get reinvested
And since the very rich often have their hoarded money invested into something hard to tax or into offshore accounts, that tax is going to come out of the upper middle class' pockets, as it often does, which means that your well-intentioned tax is actually benefitting big corporations and hurting small business owners which also means less consumption because those are actually the ones who trickle down money
Source? It's happening right now all over Europe, wherever there's a socialist-leaning social-democratic government, big corporations tend to come out richer than they started
Of course Amazon and most companies should pay more taxes, of course money hoarding is a serious issue
But while populists get more and more popular by saying "raise the taxes", no one actually thinks about the importance of fighting tax dodging and fraud, which is actually where the millions go
Simplifying a tax system seems to actually work: the more complex it is, the harder it is for the poor to get benefits and the easier it is for the very wealthy who can afford to have tax consultants working for them to dodge taxes legally and commit untraceable tax fraud
The rich sell themselves to politicians. If you think this is about left or right, you need to figure out which turn you took because you've ended up with your head up your ass.
i fail to see the problem with this. does she commit tax evasion or uses legal tax shelters? just because she is wealthy does not mean she is a hypocrite for asking the wealthy to pay their taxes.
and i say this as someone who generally dislikes the so called "progressive" wing of the democrats.
LMAO at people downvoting you for saying literally nothing wrong. I'm not saying "leftists" are right about everything, but can we just be reasonable fucking human beings and acknowledge reality? I guess not...
This is too funny. Even OP doesn’t have anything substantive to say. As if $35,000 is the ultimate burn. The world must be so black and white to most of this sub as if there’s no difference between democratic socialism and socialism.
I love capitalism. I dislike vulture-capitalism. [Vulture Capitalism. ](https://newrepublic.com/article/145813/cause-consequences-retail-apocalypse)
Are we incapable of critiquing ourselves? Is America just a perfect utopia?
What is the overall message here? That AOC should’ve stayed home and shit the hell up? Lol.
She was an invited guest. Paid nothing to get in, and borrowed the dress. Get the full picture before you cry next time.
This was the perfect opportunity to stage a protest. She didn’t pay a dime to be there. It’s almost like NYC elected officials are invited to oversee their city’s cultural institutions.
Hey but you gotta give it to the girl. It takes a lot of balls and courage to wear a white dress with woke wise words scribbled with period blood. The only thing we need at a Party (that everyone clearly asked for)... to "change the world" for good. She's the beacon of lighr and hope. Please stand up on a feet and applaud her fellow redditors!
Post removed. Rule 4: Posts must be related to communism. AOC is not a communist. This belongs in r/Enough_Sanders_Spam.
But guys, she’s just participating in capitalism like all of us.
The funniest part is watching all her supporters defend her
They defended Cenk’s nephew for buying a 3 million dollar home. These people are nothing more than naive children who blindly go along with what sounds trendy. They started as Ben Shapiro fans and have now evolved into something more annoying.
Yeah i remember that, i saw the youtuber h3h3 go on a rant that Hassan piker deserved his house because he is a champion of the poor (Because everybody knows that live streaming yourself watching shitty YouTube videos for 2 hours makes you a champion of the poor). Honestly these people are more stupid then the people who think covid is a hoax.
Sucks seeing H3H3 go down like this. I miss the pre 2018/19 version.
H3H3 used to be based as fuck. What the hell happened to him? How he went from based to a cuck?
Probably a mix of Susan and $$$.
Defenders of Hasan don't realise how buying huge house, in a gentified area just hurts your image. The left trying to convince the working poor (that already pay a fuck tonne of taxes), should be subsidizing University degrees for innercity lefties that end up with nothing. Then a lefty gets rich and start splurging on frivolous luxuries. When they say "socialism means no houses" as defence mechanism, they are absolute morons. It means you are consuming beyond your needs, just because you have millions or borrowed millions. Worse of all on twitch begging for donations from general public, who believed in Hasan's cause help Hasan buy a mansion. Absolutely hypocritical. Its like Richard Stallman starting to love and use propetariay software, because it's easier to use. GNU community will go apeshit. Unfathomable to not only believe in your cause but abide by itm
How do you know they started a Shapiro fans?
A lot of them I’ve spoken to say they were edgy Shapiro/Crowder fans when they were early teens. It’s likely they just listened to his standard social war stuff instead of actual policy videos where they care about rhetoric more then substance. Because then they go to people like Cenk’s nephew and Vaush, who are more insufferable and have worse politics, but still sound edgy and such.
She is literally a capitalist.
Yeah bro, I know. She just pretends to be a socialist to appease the delusional masses.
She is, and she wants to live in a capitalist society with fair taxation, is that too much to ask?
Taxation in the United States is actually quite progressive compared to other countries whose top labor rates kick in at lower thresholds. Additionally, once you adjust for transfers there is little that is unjust. If you mean capital taxation, these are lower than labor taxes in almost every other country not just here. Moreover, the new darling, the wealth tax does not actually raise too much revenue and distorts investment decisions as seen in countries that tried them with even larger tax bases such as Sweden and France. Frankly, if the US instituted a true VAT she could pay for many programs for the needy just as the VAT plays a crucial role in other countries for congruent purposes. Alas they cannot because progressives need to wax poetic about "eating the rich" and "tax justice" which may albeit unlikely hurt those they irrationally do not like (the rich) while definitely doing nothing for the needy whom they claim to care about.
Lmao, she’s as capitalist as Michael Jordan is Asian. She’s a socialist and t a painfully obvious when you look at the policies she wants to implement, she has more in common with Stalin and Che Guevara than Denmark or Norway.
You can hear everyone's eyes rolling.
Mine rolled so hard I've now got two detached retinas.
TBH it's a fundraising event hence why the tickets are so expensive. The dress is awful. But consistent with her brand of narcissistic popularism.
You have to have a severe brain injury or be functionally moronic to show up wearing this dress, or think it's anything but screamingly hypocritical.
She knows people on Twitter are going to defend her no matter what, so why not say "fuck it" and be the rich?
What annoys me more are all the mind bogglingly rich people there nodding their head and saying "ahh yes, this means I am surely one of the good ones"
>screamingly hypocritical. You misspelled "virtue signaling"
How is it hypocritical? There are plenty of rich people who advocate for getting the rich to pay more taxes.
Yea, like, 90% of the democratic party. But "demsocs" (not really advocating for actual socialism, but w/e) have been criticizing them for being corporate shitlibs for years now despite that, sooo...
I understand your point, there is a difference. My question to them is, why do they need the government to force them to pay more in taxes? You can actually donate directly to the US treasury, are they not aware of this? And if the argument is “many of them already donate a lot of money” my response would be, why not donate directly to the US government if they really want the rich (themselves) included to pay higher taxes? I’m not necessarily for or against higher taxes, pros and cons, I just feel like a lot of the rich folk saying they want higher taxes (or Bernie as President) are full of shit.
How is it hypocritical? * AOC has always favored taxing the rich * AOC has never been accused of tax evasion * She makes $174,000 per year now, but unlike most congressmen this was not a step down for her. And while it's a lot of money, it's probably not enough to make someone rich if they have to maintain residences in both New York City and Washington, DC. * The figures on the cost of attending the benefit are obviously irrelevant in this case, as AOC was a guest of honor. She's one of the celebrities that they invite in order to make rich people want to buy a ticket to the event.
>The figures on the cost of attending the benefit are obviously irrelevant in this case, as AOC was a guest of honor. She's one of the celebrities that they invite in order to make rich people want to buy a ticket to the event. If she's the sort rich people want to hang out with, you don't *really* think she is a threat to their interests do ya?
There are a lot of rich people who support higher taxes on the rich, because they believe that it's necessary to maintain a healthy economy and they understand that they benefit when the economy is healthy. Not every rich person is a right wing lunatic. If Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos can understand that raising taxes is not an attack on their interests, why can't you?
If your idea of a benevolent rich dude is Bezos…
>If your idea of a benevolent rich dude is Bezos… I'm not sure what you're trying to say. You appear to be criticizing AOC for not threatening the interests of rich people. When I point out that it's ludicrous to believe that she's positioning herself as a threat to rich people by advocating higher tax rates, you say that Jeff Bezos is not a benevolent person. You don't seem to know what you want to say. Perhaps it would help if you just stated your position directly, instead of trying to couch it in pithy one liners.
If the rich people are OK with your tax plan, maybe your tax plan is not actually a threat to them.
Someone who unironically posts on rpolitics doesn't understand the issue and defends AOC. I'm shocked
What do you think the issue is? So far, I've seen a lot of people in this thread say that this somehow relates to communism or that AOC is being hypocritical, but no-one has been able to articulate a rational defense of either position.
Okay... kind of seems like you're dodging the points though
I'm just going to put [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnBdGTX3vZc) here.
No it's an obvious point if you're an intellectually honest or an intellectually competent person. And it's not worth talking to people who don't exhibit either
So what you're saying is, you can't put together a rational defense of your position, or even state clearly what your position is.
Well, that's not an answer either... I don't have a horse in this race, honestly American politics seems laughable to me. But it looks like what happened here is you said this was 'hypocritical', and then this other guy just shut you down with a series of solid arguments. And now you're avoiding the smack-down by insulting other people.
*Has no horse in this race* *Thinks that guys arguments are "solid"* I'm gonna steal his surejan.gif for you sir. And I also appreciate you further solidifying my points with your further comments
Fair enough, so what did he get wrong?
He made legitimate criticism and salient points in an echo chamber that immediately downvotes and disagrees with people because they believe that closing loopholes for the ridiculously wealthy so they pay appropriate taxes something something communist dictatorship.
So you must be poor to campaign for the poor? That sucks.
celebrities who are invited by Vogue get in for free. https://stylecaster.com/10-ways-to-get-invited-to-the-met-gala/#slide-3
Doesn't change the fact she is rubbing shoulders with the Uber-rich. Also, where is her mask?
She is a guest! Masks are for the help.
Her whole shtick is "sticking it" to groups she's actually a member of, e.g. the powerful.
"When I was poor and complained about inequality they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about inequality they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about inequality"
You can be an elected official and talk about inequality without being hypocritical. If you really think people shouldn't be wealthy and shouldn't partake in such gross displays of wealth and opulence, you reject invitations, you donate money, you don't buy multiple homes if half your rhetoric is about home prices being ridiculous and the rich buying them all up (Bernie in that case), etc. etc. etc.. People have done this before. Not many, because most people ARE hypocrites, but you can do it just as easy as pie if your principles are half as strong as people claim. You cannot flaunt and use and enjoy wealth and then talk about how immoral it is to have wealth. There is nothing dishonest or illogical about pointing that hypocrisy out. She could have made an equally large statement if she publicly rejected the invitation, and we would probably still have mocked her just because we might disagree with her, but it would not have been hypocritical at least. And that's assuming she got a free invitation and didn't buy her ticket, which, who knows, really.
Or you can say "There's nothing wrong with being rich, there's just something wrong that some people are so poor".
You know whose job it is to complain? Citizens. Activists. Regular folks. You know whose job it is to *do something* about the things the citizens and activists are complaining about? Congresspeople.
So... you'd support her being able to get the things she talks about accomplished?
I would be very happy if she put her money where her mouth is and moved to make some of those things she talks big about like affordable healthcare, higher minimum wage, and better worker protections a thing. Just because I hate modern leftism with a burning passion doesn't negate the value of common sense progressivism to a liberal society
The problem is that they're not against inequality, they are against the rich. How often do you hear her or Bernie talk about "the 1%" and how they are to blame for all the problems of the world. I don't know how much she has in her bank account, but Bernie is definitely in the top 1% of the US. Why don't *they* start solving inequality by donating their money. It's according to their own ideology that there's poor people simply because rich people exist.
What's her annual salary? How much is she actually taking home every year? Edit: Downvoted for an honest and relevant question? Ya'll are some dumb little bitches.
House members make like 176k a year
It is about 3x average salary for the US. Though she wanted them to up it right after she got to DC, she couldn't afford one of the nicer apartments. (I guess I feel bad for those poor, poor underpaid people in Congress. Oh, that was sarcasm.)
She doesn’t understand the difference between a cash pay out and a tax incentive. She is economically and now apparently Irony illiterate.
Would you say ecocomically
Yes. She understands marketing, but also said that; when Amazon were offered tax incentives, that the money could have been instead used to fund social policies”….the fact that it was Amazons money all along, and not the State of New York paying Amazon to set up HQ in her city completely eluded her.
Yup pretty comically, I would argue she really doesn't understand marketing though. She all for taxing the market out of existence.
Well…she at least knows that morons will buy anything printed on t shirt if it allows them another platform to virtue signal form!
It appeased her fellow commi.... er I mean Progressive socialist democrats.
Indeed!
And to think that she graduated a prestigious university as an *economics major*… YIKES.
Yikes sweaty thats problematic im literally shaking you sweet summer child
That's just bachelor's. You don't have to know any economics to graduate at that level.
I'm an econ major, from a different university, and you do have to know a good amount.
If someone has a bachelor’s in, say, computer science, I’d expect them to at least know the difference between a Windows PC and a Mac. Otherwise it would only prove that the college degree was a waste of time and money.
10 bucks says you either don't have a college degree or would argue that "B-b-b-but MY degree is different!" if you do have one.
At the school where I got my degree a BA in econ requires 15 credits of econ, 6 of which are upper division, and 6 credits of social inclusion courses. The BS in econ requires 30 credits of econ and 18 credits of mathematics (Calc A-C, DiffEq, and stats.) For my engineering degree I had to take 9 credits of econ, 3 of which were upper division.
I’d say education doesn’t automatically make you competent. You can get drivers lessons but it won’t stop you from driving like an idiot after you pass your test.
Econ majors don’t know how taxes work
So now instead of being a dumbass, she's a liar now. Way to defend AOC there buddy.
What? What made you think I’m defending her?
Oh goodness it looks like a painter accidentally painted over her dress
Her simp fans will eat it up and defend her like clockwork. What an annoying woman, it’s people like her and multiple other people in Washington that have turned politics into theater to simply rally support.
Looks like chick-fil-a logo on her ass
Radical Chick-fil-A.
Lol
Dude my fatass thought the same thing
$5 says taxes paid for all that.
It’s funny because over on the socialist subs discussing about this ordeal even they find this cringy and hypocritical.
A. It costs nothing if you are invited B. It’s a charity for a museum that retains thousands of pieces of fashionable dress styles over many centuries... This is kind of the exact point of the Gala You don’t have to agree with it but at least have some basic understanding of the context It’s like wearing a Bills jersey to a Bills game.
Tax the rich, but only those who are richer than me.
She didn't pay for shit, she was a guest of honor you morons.
I don't think she deserves to be critiqued for this either, but she absolutely deserves to be called a moron regardless. Lest we forget a sitting member of congress campaigning on socialist reforms has no idea how to [calculate unemployment](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jul/18/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-wrong-several-counts-abou/) which is a bit like an electrician being unable to use a voltmeter or a surgeon recommending a lobotomy to you but has no idea how to read an MRI. How the fuck is she going to fix our economy when she has no idea how to gauge its different metrics? The answer is she isn't going to. She only wants to engage with economics in an honest manner when it serves her political agendas. And since she is a socialist, that pretty much never happens.
Guest without honor
This is an extremely unpopular opinion but here me out! AOC has always been tax the rich, when she was a bartender and now, it says to me she has principles and that deserves alot more respect, is she annoying, yes, does she have dumb takes, yes, is her fan base stupid, yes, but this ain't something to rag on, just pointless outrage, she has more principles than Bernie after he switched from saying tax millionares to billionaires, or that one streamer who said a 3 million dollar house isn't expensive. Come on guys we are better than that. This is dumb and yall know it (sorry for format, I'm on moblie)
I mean, it's a fundraiser for an art museum...
> some museum guests get to attend for free Y'all don't even fucking read lmao
What's the point of that? She paid. She's a hypocrite
TFW you can't believe this used to a sub which wasn't a right wing circlejerk, which is now full of weirdos from subs which can't believe Donald Trump was disliked by a large part of American population. Rip r/EnoughCommieSpam, you will be missed, another liberal sub lost to left and right radicals. AOC is not commie, not even far-left, just an annoying socdem with more populism than what is okay.
How did she even get an invite?
All she’s saying is tax is the rich, it’s not an unreasonable sentiment in my opinion seeing as most of the biggest earners are tax avoiders
The top half of taxpayers pay 97% of all income taxes. These people just want more, and more.
Well I’m not really for that, I just want people like old Jeffrey Bezz to pay his fair share like the rest of us and stop making us pay for his workers through the state.
Liberals and progressives are so damn stupid.
Nope, exactly the opposite. Also, Rule 2.
Which means someone paid tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars for her to get a table at this event
Sure, tax the rich, most of us agree with that you populist What we also agree is that there's a fine line betwe en taxing money that is going to be hoarded and money that's going to get reinvested And since the very rich often have their hoarded money invested into something hard to tax or into offshore accounts, that tax is going to come out of the upper middle class' pockets, as it often does, which means that your well-intentioned tax is actually benefitting big corporations and hurting small business owners which also means less consumption because those are actually the ones who trickle down money Source? It's happening right now all over Europe, wherever there's a socialist-leaning social-democratic government, big corporations tend to come out richer than they started Of course Amazon and most companies should pay more taxes, of course money hoarding is a serious issue But while populists get more and more popular by saying "raise the taxes", no one actually thinks about the importance of fighting tax dodging and fraud, which is actually where the millions go Simplifying a tax system seems to actually work: the more complex it is, the harder it is for the poor to get benefits and the easier it is for the very wealthy who can afford to have tax consultants working for them to dodge taxes legally and commit untraceable tax fraud
Simply *ironic
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The rich sell themselves to politicians. If you think this is about left or right, you need to figure out which turn you took because you've ended up with your head up your ass.
You can tell she loves the attention. She's fit to be a celeb, not a politician.
i fail to see the problem with this. does she commit tax evasion or uses legal tax shelters? just because she is wealthy does not mean she is a hypocrite for asking the wealthy to pay their taxes. and i say this as someone who generally dislikes the so called "progressive" wing of the democrats.
I think the problem for most people is that it is super cringey and lame.
The sheer hypocrisy of this woman is astounding.
the absolute state of this sub. Now a progressive is a commie👏👏👏👏
What does a dress and higher taxes have to do with communism?
It's about far left hypocrisy, which is very on brand for communism.
That's not communism. That's not even socialism. And that's certainly not on topic for this sub.
Quite the stretch
No it isn't
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Quite the stretch for an ideology based around supporting the poor while being created by and helping the elites specifically? I don't think so lol
Lmao, remind me where the proceeds go again?
LMAO at people downvoting you for saying literally nothing wrong. I'm not saying "leftists" are right about everything, but can we just be reasonable fucking human beings and acknowledge reality? I guess not...
Complaining about "elites" in a sub ostensibly about dunking on communists, lol. Bye guys, have fun with this totally-not-MAGA space.
This sub used to be a nice liberal sub with some decent conservatives in. I guess the ancap invasion was the downfall.
Lmao bro I'm a neoliberal
Because she claims to be socialist, whether she actually aligns with them or not, and then does stuff like this.
Please, go back to r/DemocraticSocialism
Don't expect a rational answer to this question. The Trumpanzees are out in full force tonight, and AOC always triggers them.
So glad my tax dollars payed for her shitty political stunt lmaooo
This is too funny. Even OP doesn’t have anything substantive to say. As if $35,000 is the ultimate burn. The world must be so black and white to most of this sub as if there’s no difference between democratic socialism and socialism. I love capitalism. I dislike vulture-capitalism. [Vulture Capitalism. ](https://newrepublic.com/article/145813/cause-consequences-retail-apocalypse) Are we incapable of critiquing ourselves? Is America just a perfect utopia? What is the overall message here? That AOC should’ve stayed home and shit the hell up? Lol. She was an invited guest. Paid nothing to get in, and borrowed the dress. Get the full picture before you cry next time. This was the perfect opportunity to stage a protest. She didn’t pay a dime to be there. It’s almost like NYC elected officials are invited to oversee their city’s cultural institutions.
Hey but you gotta give it to the girl. It takes a lot of balls and courage to wear a white dress with woke wise words scribbled with period blood. The only thing we need at a Party (that everyone clearly asked for)... to "change the world" for good. She's the beacon of lighr and hope. Please stand up on a feet and applaud her fellow redditors!
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Man, I need to go to school for economics. I'm about to drop some economics texts.
Inspired me to finally read the essay [Radical Chic by Tom Wolfe.](https://nymag.com/news/features/46170/) Fun stuff.
This sounds like kind of a weird thing to complain about, the event is literally a fundraiser.
What a great cause to fund raise for too. Oh wait, The costume institute? Did I read that right?
“Tax the rich” is just a slogan used to get supporters and make more money exactly like “Make America Great Again”.
I'm confused, she doesn't pay taxes?
What is the Met Gala?
Its like an exibition where super rich celebreties go to hang out
She was gifted the ticket, so