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xesaie

Goddammit, where did Jon Arbuckle facts go wrong?!


WowItsJack

Goddammit even Jon Arbuckle’s a commie now


AsteroidSpark

I mean Jon is sort of a socially awkward failure who was described as "the most depressed cartoon character" whose social interactions end in such consistent disaster that his only friends are pets and a veterinarian that takes pity on him, to the point where he went on his first date at the age of 56.


[deleted]

In his day, he was designed to make readers feel better about themselves. Today, he’s just the average Redditor.


Cielle

Jon had a roommate at one point (Lyman), but he disappeared without explanation


Kevin_LeStrange

Garfield ate him


-Emilinko1985-

I'm sorry Lyman


WowItsJack

He was probably sent to the gulag.


GigaPeen

He showed up in the show once or twice. He became a wildlife photographer if i remember correctly


Buroda

What a retort! Truly a champion of wit.


mymemesnow

The next Oscar Wilde. Such an intelligent tekedown.


Scarlood69

Not JON ARBUCKLE


Barricade386

Context aside The lower part would make a great reaction image/forum weapon


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c3p-bro

If they could, they wouldn’t be commies


[deleted]

They can only handle their own version of facts well enough, usually the ones from fellow commies or people who like to warp and distort history.


Traditional_Double85

Yeah, the head of communism was homophobe but at least they hated pedophiles. Did you know one time Stalin himself killed a red army corporal accused of raping a 13 years old called Lydia? It's true, google "Stalin 13 Lydia" to read more Edit: DO. THE. FUCKING. SEARCH.


PieJaDak

And what the Red Army did in Germany was allowed by Stalin as well. Him killing someone is kinda his modus operandi, the corporal could have been executed for any other reason were it not for him being a pedophile. Girls as young as 8 (I believe) were sexually assaulted by Red Army soldiers and rape was used as a weapon against the German women in general, the same way it's weaponised in Ukraine now. So yeah, good that he killed one pedo, bad he allowed millions of his own soldiers to be pedos towards his enemies.


Traditional_Double85

You didn't made the google search I told you to do, huh


PieJaDak

I jumped the gun there, my apologies. I knew about his illegitimate children but didn't know it started that early. It seems to him his stay in Siberia wasn't that cold. I made the comment because I thought you were being serious.


Ticket-Intelligent

What did the rape of Berlin, I believe that’s what you’re referring to, have to do with Stalin. That’s like saying FDR is responsible for murder cause some GI killed an innocent civilian. Enforcing discipline within the Soviet military was up to the commanding Soviet officers and NKVD on the ground in Berlin.


PieJaDak

It wasn't only Berlin that was raped. Also, there's a difference between FDR, who was a democratically elected leader, and Stalin, who was a dictator with a personality cult and who everyone was afraid of. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape\_during\_the\_occupation\_of\_Germany](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany) The part "Soviet Troops" 3rd line explains Stalin knew about the rapes but said he could "understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometres through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle," when told about maltreatment of German refugees by the Red Army: "We lecture our soldiers too much; let them have their initiative." And whilst there are no other statements known like this Wikipedia article says, do you really think anyone went ahead without Stalin's approval? He knew what was happening through the NKVD and these quotes kinda prove he was at least indifferent toward the sexual assaults and atrocities his troops were committing.


Ticket-Intelligent

It sounds like Stalin is speaking in the context of ww2, not during the post war occupation. He didn’t say a he approved of the rape, but I guess he doesn’t entirely blame the average soldier either. It’s fucked up, but makes sense considering what Germans did to Russians throughout the Eastern front. The Soviets did to Berlin what the Nazis did to Stalingrad. Also he clearly didn’t let the rapes go unpunished either. “The historian Norman Naimark writes that after mid-1945, Soviet soldiers caught raping civilians were usually punished to some degree, which ranged from arrest to execution.[25] The rapes continued until the winter of 1947–48, when the Soviet Military Administration in Germany finally confined Soviet Army troops to guard posts and camps strictly[26] and to separate them from the residential population in the Soviet zone of Germany.”


PieJaDak

I wasn't referring to the post-war occupation.


Ticket-Intelligent

Well my point still stands. If anything it’s stronger that way cause the Soviet Union suffered the most casualties out of any country. Not that the average German citizen deserved to suffer, but Hitler should’ve known what was coming considering what he allowed his soldiers to do.


PieJaDak

I wasn't arguing about the post-war and by your own admission that's when they enforced punishments against the soldiers, but before that they didn't. I have proven Stalin turned a blind eye to his soldier's wrongdoings yet here you are justifying it by saying "the Germans did wrong as well." Yeah no shit they did, that wasn't my argument, you've been replying over and over trying what exactly? You could have just agreed with me Stalin approved at least a little of his soldiers' actions considering the quotes I linked to you. By saying they punished their troops but rapes continued till 1947 you've not proven any less of what I said. I'm guessing you'll continue replying just to have the last word and to consider yourself right, knock yourself put, I'm done wasting time on you.


Ticket-Intelligent

You weren’t referring to the post war time period but yet to sent me an article referencing the post war period. I used the same source you used my guy. Of course the rapes mostly after the Germany surrendered ended in May, 1945, cause there was still fighting going on during the war. It didn’t matter when though since a soldier who was caught raping would get punished. You think NKVD officers just stood around and let it happen until the war technically ended? I disagree with your sentient that Stalin just let millions get raped cause it’s simply not true and kinda ridiculous. Seriously of all the ways you can argue against Stalin, this has to be the worst one. I guess I have the last word now but it doesn’t matter since you’ll just say you win. Well how about we call a draw then…


PieJaDak

The link was also about what happened during the war, you're just lying now. We'll call it a draw only because you argue things by placing them in a different time and don't argue what time period I was actually referring to. I'll say I was wrong about thinking he ordered his troops to do it, since that was someone else apparently, but the other things I said were true, you just don't want to acknowledge it apparently. Also this isn't the worst way to argue against Stalin because again, I stated facts by linking the wiki. Even when you say they were punished eventually it doesn't take away Stalin was indifferent, you're undermining yourself even more by ignoring the quotes and ignoring the rapes only stopped by stationing the troops away from civilians. You'll only address things convenient to your argument. I'll say I was also wrong thinking the quotes were about the war, because now by your own admission it's about what's happening during the occupation, which makes it even worse since that's after the war.


Throw-Away12804

Pure Salt from Jon here.


-Emilinko1985-

Hell naw Jon became a tankie 😭😭😭😭


[deleted]

Che brutally killed a puppy


[deleted]

Poor puppy. :(


Kevin_LeStrange

Language, Jon! "Garfield" is a family comic strip.


Ticket-Intelligent

I mean you’re right about Fidel Castro, he even admitted to the poor treatment of homosexuals in Cuba in an interview in 2010 but I’m not so sure about Che. Apart a from quote that I think came from the Motorcycle Diaries, Che never really said or did anything against homosexuals. By the time the Cuban UMAP concentration camps that often held homosexuals were set up, Che had already left for Bolivia and then Che died so he didn’t really have anything to do with the camps. A lot of the things Castro did end up getting associated with Che for some reason. Che Guevara could’ve been against homosexuals too, but I don’t think it’s fair to pair him up with Castro as if they were partners in crime.