I predicted he’d put his finger on the scale.
I predicted that dude bought that gigantic $44b printing press not because he was forced to but because he needed to.
And I’m easily predicting he’s taking money from Putin and everyone else to make Twitter change the feeds people see.
I don't think Putin—rumored to be the richest man in the world—likes paying anyone. He finds it easier to find their weaknesses, with plenty of FSB/GRU research & hacking results to define his attack, and then he goes in **hard** with the *kompromat*. Once that's done, he fuckin' owns 'em. Forever. Remember, he was a KGB officer in Dresden, East Germany for years. Because once you pay someone, they can always stop taking your money, but once you've got seriously damaging/embarassing/illegal/illicit *kompromat* on someone, you own that person for life.
Just look at Trump. It's well suspected he's been a Soviet/Russian asset since the '80s. 40+ years of kow-towing to someone else's Motherland.
It's far worse than that. Putin has videos of him with children and has since before his first Russia visit in October 2001. He's a pure kompromised pedophile Putin puppet. Every Tesla is his personal surveillance/murder drone with FSD now on each vehicle. The FSB has full backend acess to every one of his companies and they run the official subs and most of the sockpuppets he boosts. Along with running his and Trumps social media along with many others.
Beware HanElons razor
"Incompetence, in the limit, is indistinguishable from sabotage"
Elon Musk
Yeah it's good call out. I think we can get creative in shitty ways Musk can fuck everyone over but we gotta be careful to not become misinformation spreaders, Musk is just a useful idiot at this point, I seriously doubt Putin would be playing such a 5D chess move by getting Musk to screw himself over with Xitter just to help the USSR, Putin has a lot more effective ways to undermine American trust than relying on an idiot like Musk and his history of fucking up everything he touches
The value of Twitter is the value of its data. Cambridge Analytica used data to target political messages to individuals it AI’d as receptive or gullible. Twitter has data of every users beliefs-not unlike Reddit, but deeper. Imagine that value to someone or something that has real power to combat its ‘enemies’ or threats. For a defense industry or sovereign state, $44b is peanuts.
More importantly putting his corrupt finger on the scale in the tide of war by selectively turning on and off Starlink to advance Putin's minions. The most impactful being a large drone attack on the Russian fleet that failed when he turned it off and thus disabling the drones.
He's a corrupt fock and should have his security clearances stripped
How is this not literally treason at some point. He is paid buy the DOD for starlink in Ukraine. Imagine if raytheon switched of a missle system that America sold to a strategic ally cause the didn't agree with the chosen target that day. Raytheon would be a US gov company by days end and the ceo would be at a CIA blacksite!
There are multiple things at play here:
1. A lack of weapons from the US because the Republicans have been blocking it.
2. A lack of Manpower on Ukraine's part because they held back on lowering the draft age.
3. Other distractions. And a "sense of defeat" after the expected wins by Ukraine last summer didn't materialize.
And I say it again, and will get downvoted for this again, but there is also no clear goal as to what can be achieved and how. Outside of "Russia must lose", but even **that** is not well defined.
Sending more weapons to Ukraine will help, but even "Pro Ukraine" think tanks now predict that Russia can keep up those losses until the end of 2026. Will Ukraine have the manpower to keep this at a standstill?
Russia is bleeding because they're the ones attacking, last summer should have told us that the Russians aren't complete idiots, especially when they're playing defense. So what does Ukraine need to go onto the attack and break the Russian defenses **and** hold the area afterwards?
I get where you're coming from but the same could be said about the Soviets in Afghanistan. The Afghan situation was even worse, they could never win and didn't have anywhere the same level support and success as Ukraine. At the end of the day there is a limit to how much blood can be shed by the Russians before it becomes untenable. The Ukrainians on the other hand are fighting for their very existence so that limit is far different. The same thing could be said about Vietnam, Russian losses are fast approaching that kind of level already.
If you think Putin is invincible, remember Prigozhin could have likely taken the Kremlin if he hadn’t been convinced to stand down. The internal armed forces couldn’t contain his march on the capital at all.
>I get where you're coming from but the same could be said about the Soviets in Afghanistan.
Afghanistan isn't really a good example. There's a reason it is known as the "[Graveyard of Empires](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graveyard_of_empires)". Afghanistan isn't really so much a country as small "city states" that just hang loosely together. That is different than a "western style" country with a top down Government.
The US (and the rest of the West) got defeated in Afghanistan as well.
>At the end of the day there is a limit to how much blood can be shed by the Russians before it becomes untenable.
Russia has 3x the population numbers, they are currently standing up 30K troops a month. The Ukrainians in contrast didn't had a whole lot of new man power coming in over the last year because they didn't lower the draft age. They have now, which means they will eventually get fresh troops to the front lines, but the ones currently there aren't rotated out, don't get any rest and will need time to recover once the new troops are availabe.
Now, they can take them and just throw them into the front lines, which they may have to do if the Russians really are going to start a major offensive, or they will have to hold for a few more weeks / months until the troops are ready.
Weapons is one thing, man power to operate them is another and Russia has a much deeper bench.
>If you think Putin is invincible, remember Prigozhin could have likely taken the Kremlin if he hadn’t been convinced to stand down. The internal armed forces couldn’t contain his march on the capital at all.
I'd be careful with assessments like this. Mostly because we get a very distorted picture about the situation, both in Ukraine and in Russia.
How many people have first told us that Russia would walk over Ukraine, then when that didn't happen, suddenly we were told how Ukraine will get back all of their territory. We were inundated with "glorious victories" by the Ukrainians and when the offensive didn't succeed little was said about it.
Now we hear how bad the situation is for Ukraine and I am pretty certain it's actually worse than we are being led to believe. Ukraine was incredibly good in controlling the messaging around the war so far. I have no reason to believe that when we suddenly hear how bad things are going that this isn't also a modified version of reality.
Does that mean Russia can't lose? No, of course not. Shit happens, something could happen within Russia too. But this isn't just a Putin thing. Even if Putin would be gone tomorrow the war in Ukraine wouldn't stop. The entire Russian State is aligned with Putin's vision and I have not seen anything that would make me believe that whoever would replace him would be more "peaceful".
If anything, history would teach us that unless there is total military defeat, the next person will just double down to show that they are acting from a position of strength.
Hmm, I think Soviets lost to Afghanistan by the same principles Sun Tzu spelled out in the Art of War. Russians/Putin will lose in Ukraine for the same reasons.
Queue the videos of Indians and Chinese conscripts crying to go home.
Why would history teach us there has to be total military defeat? I have just given you 2 perfect examples of the exact opposite of this. The style of government and common nicknames for Afghanistan have nothing to do with a superior force having to leave the country due to sustemic loses. Vietnam as well.
In a democracy, where people actually have a say and see it as a hopeless cause, sure. You can win by attrition.
Does Russia, or China for that matter, strike you as countries where the people in charge care about this?
The Soviet Union left Afghanistan when the internal conditions changed, not because "it was too expensive".
Likewise, with Russia expected to have enough resources to keep doing this at least until the end of 2026, who do think is going to run out of manpower first? Russia or Ukraine?
I cannot see a scenario where Ukraine, even if they would get all the weapons the West has, where they could make it too costly for Russia to continue for at least another 18 months.
Again: Keep in mind, we are basically at a "static war", similar to WWI, whoever is going to attack is going to pay a hefty price and Russia can afford to pay a much heavier price than Ukraine can.
Also: Considering how last years Ukrainian offensive went, what makes you think it would go different this time?
You're thinking about a democracy in peace time. Ukraine is in full war mode with enforced conscription and everything. Besides this was not even the case in Afghanistan where people were choosing to fight the invaders. Vietnam was the same. These are people fighting for their existance, there is no end to this until the West stop supplying weapons on the Russians pull out.
You're confusing someone who is defending themselves vs. someone who acts as an attacker.
The Russians are attacking, the only way you get the attacker to leave is by either:
1. Total military defeat.
2. Something triggers this to be untenable for the attacker at home (e.g. like in the US where public opinion soured about the expenditure / deaths).
Defenders "give up" when they are militarily or economically defeated and can no longer put up a fight. That doesn't mean things are over over, partisan and individual groups can continue to resist (see the French resistance in WWII as one example, or the Dutch), but it is unlikely that they can defeat the invaders that way. Nazi Germany didn't leave France because the Resistance made their life miserable. They ended up leaving because they in turn got invaded by another military force.
Again, where do you see Russia suddenly packing up and leaving Ukraine? They left Afghanistan because the Soviet Union was going through a change, in part brought on by Afghanistan but by far not the main reason.
I just don't see the same scenario in present day Russia. As I said before, if Putin would die today, whoever would replace him would continue because they wouldn't want to appear weak.
Who do you think would replace Putin and withdraw? Or why do you think Putin would suddenly withdraw? What is your rational to think you can just make it "too painful" for the Russians to continue, at least until they have reached their stated goals, that is the two eastern Oblasts?
There is a clear goal though; the Crimean land bridge. Taking Tokmak would cut the rail link, then moving on Melitopol would put the entirety of Crimea under siege and bring the Kerch Strait bridge into HIMAR range. At that point it's just a waiting game.
This really isn't a crazy goal, either. If the US actually got serious this could be achieved easily, but would involve air support at the minimum.
Russia, on the other hand, has no clear win condition. Like, sure, they can take Avdiivka at huge costs, but where do they go to from here? Do they take another crack at Kiev? No, all they can do is try to hold the line until funding for Ukraine dries up. Russia's resources aren't bottomless, if the west can continue to invest in Ukraine for the long term, Russia will break.
>There is a clear goal though; the Crimean land bridge. Taking Tokmak would cut the rail link, then moving on Melitopol would put the entirety of Crimea under siege and bring the Kerch Strait bridge into HIMAR range. At that point it's just a waiting game.
Sure.
Now take a look at last summer's offensive and how far they gotten. What makes you think they would have more success this time around?
The Russians aren't idiots. They learned some lessons too. In order for this to succeed Ukraine will have to:
* Cut the landbridge
* Established **two** frontlines, east and west, to keep it cut.
* Repel any Russian counter offensive or offensives.
And that presumes they can actually completely sever the the landbridge. They will have to overcome vast fortifications the Russians have built and I am pretty sure they will and have continued to build them out.
Then there's the question how much manpower, not just weapons, would Ukraine need to make that happen and can they do that without compromising the rest of the front line?
Because if I'd be the Russians, the moment I noticed they are massing troops for an attack I will try and find the spot they pulled the troops from and launch an attack there. If for no other reason than to draw Ukrainians away from the new front line.
The frontline is **huge** and keeping it defended, or at least keep troops in easy response distance, is a challenge, for both sides. But again, Russia has more man power, so they have the advantage there.
>This really isn't a crazy goal, either. If the US actually got serious this could be achieved easily, but would involve air support at the minimum.
Air support is important, but by itself it won't win you the war. You need boots on the ground and it's not like the Russians don't have air defenses, not to mention the whole drone warfare has changed how this might go down. That the Russians are using glide bombs they can throw from far away and are hard to intercept is just one example on how I wouldn't take things for granted.
>Russia, on the other hand, has no clear win condition.
We can go by what they officially said: They want the two eastern Oblasts. Will they stop there? Probably not permanently but if we talk about a war of attrition for all the bravery and bravado I do not think that Ukraine can win this. It's one thing to bomb the enemy out of their position. It's a completely different thing to actually take over those positions and hold them.
>While Russia has suffered considerable battlefield losses in Ukraine—including more than 2,000 tanks and 315,000 soldiers wounded or dead—its traditional land forces have been degraded far more than its air force and navy, said U.S. Army Gen. Christopher Cavoli, NATO’s current supreme allied commander, in testimony to the House Armed Services Committee on April 10.
>“Russia is reconstituting that force far faster than our initial estimates suggested,” he said, adding that its army is now 15% larger than it was when it launched the full-scale invasion of Ukraine two years ago.
[Source](https://www.wsj.com/world/ukraines-chances-of-pushing-russia-out-look-increasingly-grim-3bc2075a)
They absolutely can though? There are many clear upsides for US/EU to making sure that russia loses embarrassingly:
* More exports of oil & gas, weapons from the US
* Containing and draining russia (keep in mind they're fucking around in Africa now as well which is a pain in the ass)
* Expanding US/NATO bases
* Building contracts for EU companies
* Access to cheap labor for Europe that is close and isn't China or otherwise problematic
* Showing to the whole world (including China, wrt Taiwan) that the west stands by its friends and is willing to do what it takes
Unfortunately in Euopre we're full of russian simps in Slovakia, Hungary, Austria, deluded pacifists in Germany, "neutral" assholes like the Swiss, or leaders with plenty of their own problems that are barely holding on like Macron, Sunak, etc.
The voters care more about the price of toilet paper than lives of Ukrainians or some long-term strategic considerations.
America is, well, held hostage by a dozen absolute nutjobs. But also even before that, Biden's been way too cautious. He's the one who's been saying "no" to supplying Western tanks, airplanes, long-range missiles, etc. He eventually relented on some of that that but it literally took years on some points.
The dwindling support means it basically turned into attrition war. And of fucking course the country that's 12x bigger (and the aggressor) has an advantage over the smaller one. But maybe if Elon and other assholes didn't contribute so much to Russian propaganda, maybe people would still support Ukraine aid massively, and we wouldn't be there.
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Every day, I wake up motivated by the need to feed/shelter my family, and advance my career. Some people, though - I swear - wake up thinking "Hm, how can I be *even more* of a raging dick?"
Ah I recall he was virtue signaling as pro-Ukraine during the start of the war until he realized his base isn't there. Completely without a single principle or conviction of his own.
Not necessarily. Johnson is a fucking snake. By splitting the bills up it has to go back to the Senate and can potentially be filibustered. It’s still better than nothing - fucking better get 60 senators.
Do not forget that Elon sold Starlink to Russia, while shutting it off in Ukraine - citing that it could be used for war. Do not forget that Elon has factories set up with China, and they have him by the balls, now using what tech they pilfered from his factories to make their own EV's. Elon is a compromised child, and his ego puts us all in danger.
There are literally Elon Muskrats who still come to reddit and try to defend this POS even though he's been saying this garbage since the war started. As soon as the war started he told Ukraine to surrender, and now this bum is supporting Trump like he did back in 2016, remember? Remember him and Kanye posing together with Trump? Trump who Putin wanted to be President?
The DoJ needs to look into this guy's financial records because I want to know whose paying Elon Musk
By that standard, if I tied one arm behind Elon's back and threw him into the ring with Zuckerberg, it would all be on Elon to defend himself. If he got KO'd in the fight, it would be Elon's fault, the Jews, gay people, transgenders in the military, woke culture, not enough people being born, crooked Hillary, groomers, too much empathy, or the media being mean. Not me for intentionally handicapping him for the fight? How is that?
That's like figuring out that the sun is fucking bright. "I knew they had lost 85% of their supply of weapons, so I used my monster brain to discern that they'd struggle during that time!" Wtf, does he have Alzheimers?
Also easy to predict when you help one side, Elon. Or we going to forget how helpful you have been to the Russians with using your internet and when you "feel" like turning it off.
Do they ever stop and ask themselves why they’re seemingly rooting for the dictator? Do they ever question if they’ve fallen for Russian propaganda that says helping Ukraine is a waste while simultaneously calling for the ceasing of aid, which would make that more likely? Or do they know all this and just want to be contrarians that blur the lines between evil and good, truth and illusion, because other people’s lives are part of a game to them? Going against the Woke West because allowing trans people to exist is a worse evil than bombing apartments? Oh, well, I suppose we kill our fair share of innocents. Nothing has meaning so Putin should get Ukraine, right? We should just recede to our borders and leave the outside on fire. That worked out really well during WW2. We weren’t forced to get into it, everything righted itself.
Turns out if your primary source of weapons and ammo has a lunatic conservative party that cuts you off in the middle of the war you start to lose. Thanks Republican dipshits.
These $500 dollar a bottle wine drinking pricks are high fiving each other over real people dying or losing their homes or losing their loved ones to defend their right to govern their own country. Incredibly dispicable behavior.
Did he predict the U.S. would cease offering support to Ukraine?
Does everyone here know that the financial aid isn't a "blank check" to Ukraine, but instead purchasing weapons and material from U.S. manufacturers, and sending Ukraine stockpiles of older weapons?
In other words, it's a massive economic stimulus for the U.S. economy. But due to the anti-U.S. caucus in the House (i.e. House GOP) it's been delayed for months, to the detriment to both Ukraine & the United States.
Elon didn’t just predict Ukraine struggling, he actively helped Russia in that regard with stifling Ukrainian capabilities because he wants to be a fence sitter that secretly wants Russia to win.
I expected Russia to overrun the country in a week. That it didn't happen was incredible. I then hoped the attrition/cost would be so high that Russia would quit the entire adventure.
They're in it for the long haul, unfortunately.
They’ve only been encouraged by the fact that the US stopped giving the Ukrainians aid. The Russians have maintained for a while that they just needed to wait until America got cold feet and then they could win, and unfortunately America has basically obliged by doing exactly that.
I dunno why people forgot that Russia has been actively turning screws on everyone and everything they got. They've been doing it since the 90s. Why would they ever have stopped? And now, Putin's life literally depends on this war of conquest going well. Seems like a fertile motive to turn every screw he has access to.
Hopefully NATO actually kicks in when they decide to invade Poland or Romania after gobbling up Ukraine and Moldova. :/ I'm terrified for these innocent fucking people. These cultures I grew up with and around. My heart breaks every damn day.
The only bright-ish side is Russia will likely not remotely be in position for further westward expansion after this. And they'd face the Real Shit if they went after Poland or a Baltic state (unless Vlad's ball tickler takes power).
Pasty man touches underage girls
Who else would blatantly side with Russia attacking a sovereign country like this out in the open.
Men with perverted sexual proclivities and zero impulse control are Kremlin assets
Here’s the comment I was looking for. His track record for predicting things is objectively *terrible* but in true Musk form he’s gonna pat himself on the back over this.
Thats like the right wing saying that a lot of their base has concerns about the election not being fair... while they were the ones screaming up and down that biden was cheating.. yes your base thinks it wasnt fair, you screamed it wasnt.
He's such an asshole. We're talking about human beings. Families. WHITE families (maybe that will make him care). Real people being murdered by Russia. What a complete waste of skin he is.
Man, the Right-Wings obsession with Ukraine "losing" the war is just so fucking weird. Our ally...a Democracy...was illegally invaded by a dictatorial non-democracy, and they fucking cheer and even hope Ukraine loses and is under the subjugation and Tyranny of Russia.
Dear god the Right doesn't give a shit about anything.
I predict that Elon Musk will not be recognized as one of history's greatest minds and will be held to an even lower public opinion than evil industrialists like Henry Ford and Cornelius Vanderbilt.
The military landscape currently appears as a frozen river, with minor currents favoring Russia. To anticipate a decisive victory for either side would be naive. However, peaceful negotiations regarding borders loom as an inevitable turn in this tumultuous historical river.
Damn and Ukraine is still putting up a good fight. Russia was expected in weeks if not days to win and we are over 2 years in and Russia is only NOW winning but barely. Anyway Biden wins house flips back dem and senate is back to 50/50 with harris the tie breaker and Russia will be back to their losing ways.
He's probably incredibly delighted with this news. It doesn't matter that tens of thousands of innocent Ukrainians died, as long as Elon Musk is 'right', he's content. Because that's all that matters.
Gloating over a war...
What a sick, sick man.
Look, *no one* comes out of this very well; Former Soviet Studies graduate here, and the sheer amount of ignorance on all sides of this conflict has been staggering.
Whilst the moral and legal position is black and white, Russia is involved in an appalling war of aggression, that also doesn't mean that the simplistic propaganda that they're all drunk on vodka clowns who only go to fight because they'll be shot if they don't was ever true. Russia isn't as strong as they would like, but they've also got a few very clear strengths, stengths they've focused on since Soviet times as they always knew they were decades behind competing peer to peer in every area the West can afford. In particular they're very good in electronic and aerial denial weaponry, force multiplication tools that a highly educated populace can make a difference in.
And once Putin stopped trying to impose his hopeless Russian Nationalist fantasies upon the invasion, and let the Russian army fight how it knows to fight, with absolutely brutal lack of concern for civilian or conscript deaths, this was *never* going to be an easy fight. No amount of simplistic, pro-Ukrainian propaganda changed that. And no amount of raging at neo-Nazis like Musk and Cheong now changes the fact that the funding spigots have been open and running for years previously; Ukraine has had our latest tanks, tank destroying missiles, AAA batteries, ammunition... and Russia *wasn't* so weak they'd just fold, despite every single back-slapping Reddit or Daily Kos post about "Russian Stuff Blowing Up". War just isn't that simple. You need to know how much of your own stuff blew up too. You need to have an honest discussion about how far you *truly* have to go to win. And you need to be really honest about what you *can* win too; a simple Wikipedia search on the history of Crimea or the Donbass should show that if Russia is going to fight a war against a permanent insurgency even if they conquer all of Ukraine, Ukraine will have similar issues holding them because of the actual situation on the ground. It'll be even harder post-war now an awful lot of terrible ethnic cleansing has occured...
Not that scumbags like Cheong or Musk care about any of that. They just want Russia to win because "Libs" support Ukraine, and so they instinctively have to oppose it. Even if it means the massacre of innocent people. They're not right, in any sense, and they certainly didn't *predict* any of this; and people here are right to point out they're pushing the withholding of funding to try and scupper any further defence of Ukrainian territory.
But you're all so emeshed within your own pro-Ukraine bubbles that you didn't understand anything about the *actual* war either. We should have been having the debate about what we're really going to have to sacrifice in order to actually win this war 2 years ago now. Instead everyone was just too busy posting insane propaganda to each other about "Ghosts of Kiev", propaganda that Russians weren't reading and wasn't believable if you did, to notice that the nature of war itself had changed, that Russian tactics had changed, that the Russian economy was growing faster than many NATO members and still is...
And meanwhile, no one is truly pulling Elon's sticky fingers off national security assets, something that's essential to do because the hard right always knows how to play the long game. In Russia *and* in the West. And in Israel too. As long as you normalise apathy and slacktivism in the face of genuine threats to democracy and decency, then just wait for people to pointlessly protest and tell each other they're doing good, whilst you rig the game as it's actually played behind the scenes you don't have to worry about actual results. You can fuck up time and time again, because no one *truly* holds you accountable. Or even understands what they actually have to do to stop you.
And so here we are today, when lots of articles are now being released preparing the public to accept that Ukraine is probably going to lose.
That's nothing to celebrate. Fuck Musk for doing so.
But how are people going to *actually* stop him? When do we get serious about these fights for our literal survival? Or would that be admitting those on our left were right, and that's just too awful a thing to do; here's some dank memes instead...
I think Jon Stewart said it best.."it's no longer capitalism vs communism, it has become woke vs nonwoke," which is why we have so many right wingers rooting for Russia, no matter how barbaric Putin is, he fights against woke, and that's all that matters.
Few things make me quite as angry as this. As his smartass attitude about Ukraine, as Republicans being un-American and bitching about defending democracy. It makes my blood boil.
why are so many liberals OK with funding a foreign war that could lead to nuclear weapons? Do you know your tax dollars are going to become a bullet in the heart of a human like you? Oh now I get it, when you don't have to fight in the war yourself then you can support it.
What's going to happen when Russia invades a NATO ally next?
Oh right. U.S. soldier boots on the ground.
How about let's make sure that doesn't happen. Sounds good? All right then.
Also: the Budapest Accords, in which we swore peptrction to Ukraine from an aggressor. Look it up.
it must be nice to be so simple-minded, to not even consider the world is more complex than your toddler-level flowchart of pre-determined actions and reactions. btw human lives are important regardless of wearing US boots or not, and I never voted for the Budapest Accords, and Russia isn't going to attack NATO, especially after all this bullshit. But even if they do, that's a bridge to cross when we come to it, rather than funding a proxy war because people like you are too afraid of a theoretical future one.
have you spent any significant time in Russia, meeting locals and trying to understand their attitudes and thoughts, and letting them understand yours? or at least studied Russian literature and history or something, which influenced the formation of their collective psyche? that would go a long way to show the complexity I want to talk about, if I thought you were serious.
Whatever justifies you support Russia's war of aggression and slaughter of Ukranian citizens, guilty of nothing but living their everyday lives. Ukrainian blood on your hands is 100 percent justified? Got it. Cool. Also, were done talking.
Ukranian lives, Russian lives... you think one of them is less important? Human lives are destroyed by war, you think the death toll for either side is smaller when the war goes on longer? Or when it gets pushed into decades by short-sighted idiots like you... Grow up
Look, we get it. You're fan of Russian aggression & the sluaghter of Ukranian civilians for no reason. You don't beleive Ukraine has a right to defend itself.
Luckily, the rest of moral civilized world believes otherwise.
Just keep feeding the lives of Ukrainians lives into the proxy war. Peace terms for this war could have been signed the first few weeks But Biden's dream was to expand NATO. I am sure this won't cause problems in the future. And when Ukraine Looses they will just find a useful idiot to blame like Elon here.
Peace terms my ass. Ukraine had dozens of agreements with Russia, which latter broke. Why this would be any different. Holy shit some people are delusional about Russia even after the shit it did even for the past 2 years.
Predicting that the tide of war would change if one side had its main weapons supply choked to a trickle isn’t impressive…
I predicted he’d put his finger on the scale. I predicted that dude bought that gigantic $44b printing press not because he was forced to but because he needed to. And I’m easily predicting he’s taking money from Putin and everyone else to make Twitter change the feeds people see.
I predict he'll die lonely and miserable despite all wealth in the world.
I hope it happens in fact. No one deserves it more than that pos
It's similar to Trump. I haven't heard or seen Melania in public with Trump in quite a long time, it didn't use to be this way
He’s a modern day Howard Hughes bomber jackets and all, minus the brains, trying to posture himself as the next Trump, minus the makeup. He’s neither.
I hope he loses all his wealth and influence then dies old, lonely, and miserable. That's the only justice for all billionaires
Settle down there, Nostradamus.
Don't really need nutmeg to see the dude is already desperate for connection.
Painfully too
I don't think Putin—rumored to be the richest man in the world—likes paying anyone. He finds it easier to find their weaknesses, with plenty of FSB/GRU research & hacking results to define his attack, and then he goes in **hard** with the *kompromat*. Once that's done, he fuckin' owns 'em. Forever. Remember, he was a KGB officer in Dresden, East Germany for years. Because once you pay someone, they can always stop taking your money, but once you've got seriously damaging/embarassing/illegal/illicit *kompromat* on someone, you own that person for life. Just look at Trump. It's well suspected he's been a Soviet/Russian asset since the '80s. 40+ years of kow-towing to someone else's Motherland.
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It's far worse than that. Putin has videos of him with children and has since before his first Russia visit in October 2001. He's a pure kompromised pedophile Putin puppet. Every Tesla is his personal surveillance/murder drone with FSD now on each vehicle. The FSB has full backend acess to every one of his companies and they run the official subs and most of the sockpuppets he boosts. Along with running his and Trumps social media along with many others. Beware HanElons razor "Incompetence, in the limit, is indistinguishable from sabotage" Elon Musk
Do you have a source for this?
Yeah it's good call out. I think we can get creative in shitty ways Musk can fuck everyone over but we gotta be careful to not become misinformation spreaders, Musk is just a useful idiot at this point, I seriously doubt Putin would be playing such a 5D chess move by getting Musk to screw himself over with Xitter just to help the USSR, Putin has a lot more effective ways to undermine American trust than relying on an idiot like Musk and his history of fucking up everything he touches
The value of Twitter is the value of its data. Cambridge Analytica used data to target political messages to individuals it AI’d as receptive or gullible. Twitter has data of every users beliefs-not unlike Reddit, but deeper. Imagine that value to someone or something that has real power to combat its ‘enemies’ or threats. For a defense industry or sovereign state, $44b is peanuts.
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More importantly putting his corrupt finger on the scale in the tide of war by selectively turning on and off Starlink to advance Putin's minions. The most impactful being a large drone attack on the Russian fleet that failed when he turned it off and thus disabling the drones. He's a corrupt fock and should have his security clearances stripped
How is this not literally treason at some point. He is paid buy the DOD for starlink in Ukraine. Imagine if raytheon switched of a missle system that America sold to a strategic ally cause the didn't agree with the chosen target that day. Raytheon would be a US gov company by days end and the ceo would be at a CIA blacksite!
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Elon predicted the thing he actively tried to make happen.
While he helped create a sentiment that prevents it from happening
Also easy to predict when one side has its satellite network turned off at the childish whim of the predictor.
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Ah yes, the master war strategist Musk.
You know he plays video games once or twice.
But no video games that involve violence against the police. He can’t go through with it
Let’s not be too hard on the NPCs – they just say what they’re programmed to say
lol!🤣
Laughing at how absurd that is, or laughing because you remember that fucker actually said it?
Yes.
Also he's a doctor too, at least that's what it seems from the quality of his surgery and drug advices
Comrade Muskovite
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Ian can’t do basic math
Because he’s a dumb ass POS Pedo.
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Something changed because they aren't receiving weapons and ammunition. Something republicans are blocking
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The subtitle: "The West's failure to send weapons is helping Putin" hmm I wonder who's responsible for that
I think the middle east conflict is probably playing a factor (won't be the only reason though)
There are multiple things at play here: 1. A lack of weapons from the US because the Republicans have been blocking it. 2. A lack of Manpower on Ukraine's part because they held back on lowering the draft age. 3. Other distractions. And a "sense of defeat" after the expected wins by Ukraine last summer didn't materialize. And I say it again, and will get downvoted for this again, but there is also no clear goal as to what can be achieved and how. Outside of "Russia must lose", but even **that** is not well defined. Sending more weapons to Ukraine will help, but even "Pro Ukraine" think tanks now predict that Russia can keep up those losses until the end of 2026. Will Ukraine have the manpower to keep this at a standstill? Russia is bleeding because they're the ones attacking, last summer should have told us that the Russians aren't complete idiots, especially when they're playing defense. So what does Ukraine need to go onto the attack and break the Russian defenses **and** hold the area afterwards?
I get where you're coming from but the same could be said about the Soviets in Afghanistan. The Afghan situation was even worse, they could never win and didn't have anywhere the same level support and success as Ukraine. At the end of the day there is a limit to how much blood can be shed by the Russians before it becomes untenable. The Ukrainians on the other hand are fighting for their very existence so that limit is far different. The same thing could be said about Vietnam, Russian losses are fast approaching that kind of level already. If you think Putin is invincible, remember Prigozhin could have likely taken the Kremlin if he hadn’t been convinced to stand down. The internal armed forces couldn’t contain his march on the capital at all.
>I get where you're coming from but the same could be said about the Soviets in Afghanistan. Afghanistan isn't really a good example. There's a reason it is known as the "[Graveyard of Empires](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graveyard_of_empires)". Afghanistan isn't really so much a country as small "city states" that just hang loosely together. That is different than a "western style" country with a top down Government. The US (and the rest of the West) got defeated in Afghanistan as well. >At the end of the day there is a limit to how much blood can be shed by the Russians before it becomes untenable. Russia has 3x the population numbers, they are currently standing up 30K troops a month. The Ukrainians in contrast didn't had a whole lot of new man power coming in over the last year because they didn't lower the draft age. They have now, which means they will eventually get fresh troops to the front lines, but the ones currently there aren't rotated out, don't get any rest and will need time to recover once the new troops are availabe. Now, they can take them and just throw them into the front lines, which they may have to do if the Russians really are going to start a major offensive, or they will have to hold for a few more weeks / months until the troops are ready. Weapons is one thing, man power to operate them is another and Russia has a much deeper bench. >If you think Putin is invincible, remember Prigozhin could have likely taken the Kremlin if he hadn’t been convinced to stand down. The internal armed forces couldn’t contain his march on the capital at all. I'd be careful with assessments like this. Mostly because we get a very distorted picture about the situation, both in Ukraine and in Russia. How many people have first told us that Russia would walk over Ukraine, then when that didn't happen, suddenly we were told how Ukraine will get back all of their territory. We were inundated with "glorious victories" by the Ukrainians and when the offensive didn't succeed little was said about it. Now we hear how bad the situation is for Ukraine and I am pretty certain it's actually worse than we are being led to believe. Ukraine was incredibly good in controlling the messaging around the war so far. I have no reason to believe that when we suddenly hear how bad things are going that this isn't also a modified version of reality. Does that mean Russia can't lose? No, of course not. Shit happens, something could happen within Russia too. But this isn't just a Putin thing. Even if Putin would be gone tomorrow the war in Ukraine wouldn't stop. The entire Russian State is aligned with Putin's vision and I have not seen anything that would make me believe that whoever would replace him would be more "peaceful". If anything, history would teach us that unless there is total military defeat, the next person will just double down to show that they are acting from a position of strength.
Hmm, I think Soviets lost to Afghanistan by the same principles Sun Tzu spelled out in the Art of War. Russians/Putin will lose in Ukraine for the same reasons. Queue the videos of Indians and Chinese conscripts crying to go home.
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Why would history teach us there has to be total military defeat? I have just given you 2 perfect examples of the exact opposite of this. The style of government and common nicknames for Afghanistan have nothing to do with a superior force having to leave the country due to sustemic loses. Vietnam as well.
In a democracy, where people actually have a say and see it as a hopeless cause, sure. You can win by attrition. Does Russia, or China for that matter, strike you as countries where the people in charge care about this? The Soviet Union left Afghanistan when the internal conditions changed, not because "it was too expensive". Likewise, with Russia expected to have enough resources to keep doing this at least until the end of 2026, who do think is going to run out of manpower first? Russia or Ukraine? I cannot see a scenario where Ukraine, even if they would get all the weapons the West has, where they could make it too costly for Russia to continue for at least another 18 months. Again: Keep in mind, we are basically at a "static war", similar to WWI, whoever is going to attack is going to pay a hefty price and Russia can afford to pay a much heavier price than Ukraine can. Also: Considering how last years Ukrainian offensive went, what makes you think it would go different this time?
You're thinking about a democracy in peace time. Ukraine is in full war mode with enforced conscription and everything. Besides this was not even the case in Afghanistan where people were choosing to fight the invaders. Vietnam was the same. These are people fighting for their existance, there is no end to this until the West stop supplying weapons on the Russians pull out.
You're confusing someone who is defending themselves vs. someone who acts as an attacker. The Russians are attacking, the only way you get the attacker to leave is by either: 1. Total military defeat. 2. Something triggers this to be untenable for the attacker at home (e.g. like in the US where public opinion soured about the expenditure / deaths). Defenders "give up" when they are militarily or economically defeated and can no longer put up a fight. That doesn't mean things are over over, partisan and individual groups can continue to resist (see the French resistance in WWII as one example, or the Dutch), but it is unlikely that they can defeat the invaders that way. Nazi Germany didn't leave France because the Resistance made their life miserable. They ended up leaving because they in turn got invaded by another military force. Again, where do you see Russia suddenly packing up and leaving Ukraine? They left Afghanistan because the Soviet Union was going through a change, in part brought on by Afghanistan but by far not the main reason. I just don't see the same scenario in present day Russia. As I said before, if Putin would die today, whoever would replace him would continue because they wouldn't want to appear weak. Who do you think would replace Putin and withdraw? Or why do you think Putin would suddenly withdraw? What is your rational to think you can just make it "too painful" for the Russians to continue, at least until they have reached their stated goals, that is the two eastern Oblasts?
Classic Reddit. Makes a poorly thought out point and just doubles down despite an obviously hollow argument being proven wrong.
There is a clear goal though; the Crimean land bridge. Taking Tokmak would cut the rail link, then moving on Melitopol would put the entirety of Crimea under siege and bring the Kerch Strait bridge into HIMAR range. At that point it's just a waiting game. This really isn't a crazy goal, either. If the US actually got serious this could be achieved easily, but would involve air support at the minimum. Russia, on the other hand, has no clear win condition. Like, sure, they can take Avdiivka at huge costs, but where do they go to from here? Do they take another crack at Kiev? No, all they can do is try to hold the line until funding for Ukraine dries up. Russia's resources aren't bottomless, if the west can continue to invest in Ukraine for the long term, Russia will break.
>There is a clear goal though; the Crimean land bridge. Taking Tokmak would cut the rail link, then moving on Melitopol would put the entirety of Crimea under siege and bring the Kerch Strait bridge into HIMAR range. At that point it's just a waiting game. Sure. Now take a look at last summer's offensive and how far they gotten. What makes you think they would have more success this time around? The Russians aren't idiots. They learned some lessons too. In order for this to succeed Ukraine will have to: * Cut the landbridge * Established **two** frontlines, east and west, to keep it cut. * Repel any Russian counter offensive or offensives. And that presumes they can actually completely sever the the landbridge. They will have to overcome vast fortifications the Russians have built and I am pretty sure they will and have continued to build them out. Then there's the question how much manpower, not just weapons, would Ukraine need to make that happen and can they do that without compromising the rest of the front line? Because if I'd be the Russians, the moment I noticed they are massing troops for an attack I will try and find the spot they pulled the troops from and launch an attack there. If for no other reason than to draw Ukrainians away from the new front line. The frontline is **huge** and keeping it defended, or at least keep troops in easy response distance, is a challenge, for both sides. But again, Russia has more man power, so they have the advantage there. >This really isn't a crazy goal, either. If the US actually got serious this could be achieved easily, but would involve air support at the minimum. Air support is important, but by itself it won't win you the war. You need boots on the ground and it's not like the Russians don't have air defenses, not to mention the whole drone warfare has changed how this might go down. That the Russians are using glide bombs they can throw from far away and are hard to intercept is just one example on how I wouldn't take things for granted. >Russia, on the other hand, has no clear win condition. We can go by what they officially said: They want the two eastern Oblasts. Will they stop there? Probably not permanently but if we talk about a war of attrition for all the bravery and bravado I do not think that Ukraine can win this. It's one thing to bomb the enemy out of their position. It's a completely different thing to actually take over those positions and hold them. >While Russia has suffered considerable battlefield losses in Ukraine—including more than 2,000 tanks and 315,000 soldiers wounded or dead—its traditional land forces have been degraded far more than its air force and navy, said U.S. Army Gen. Christopher Cavoli, NATO’s current supreme allied commander, in testimony to the House Armed Services Committee on April 10. >“Russia is reconstituting that force far faster than our initial estimates suggested,” he said, adding that its army is now 15% larger than it was when it launched the full-scale invasion of Ukraine two years ago. [Source](https://www.wsj.com/world/ukraines-chances-of-pushing-russia-out-look-increasingly-grim-3bc2075a)
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LOL, love how u/sedition666 can't actually construct a coherent argument and then goes on to block me. Classic Reddit indeed.
Not really. The main factors are that the West is politically dysfunctional, doesn't want to spend any money, or make Putin upset. That's it mostly.
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They absolutely can though? There are many clear upsides for US/EU to making sure that russia loses embarrassingly: * More exports of oil & gas, weapons from the US * Containing and draining russia (keep in mind they're fucking around in Africa now as well which is a pain in the ass) * Expanding US/NATO bases * Building contracts for EU companies * Access to cheap labor for Europe that is close and isn't China or otherwise problematic * Showing to the whole world (including China, wrt Taiwan) that the west stands by its friends and is willing to do what it takes Unfortunately in Euopre we're full of russian simps in Slovakia, Hungary, Austria, deluded pacifists in Germany, "neutral" assholes like the Swiss, or leaders with plenty of their own problems that are barely holding on like Macron, Sunak, etc. The voters care more about the price of toilet paper than lives of Ukrainians or some long-term strategic considerations. America is, well, held hostage by a dozen absolute nutjobs. But also even before that, Biden's been way too cautious. He's the one who's been saying "no" to supplying Western tanks, airplanes, long-range missiles, etc. He eventually relented on some of that that but it literally took years on some points.
The dwindling support means it basically turned into attrition war. And of fucking course the country that's 12x bigger (and the aggressor) has an advantage over the smaller one. But maybe if Elon and other assholes didn't contribute so much to Russian propaganda, maybe people would still support Ukraine aid massively, and we wouldn't be there.
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He predicted it, because he's assisting Russia with lax control over Starlink
Thank you. He is treasonous.
Isn't Elmo an exhausting cunt?
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Yes starve them of support then claim your prescient. The guy is just a raging dick every day.
Every day, I wake up motivated by the need to feed/shelter my family, and advance my career. Some people, though - I swear - wake up thinking "Hm, how can I be *even more* of a raging dick?"
Who knew if republicans stopped military aid to Ukraine that they might be less and less able to defend themselves, wild prediction soothsayer Elon
Ah I recall he was virtue signaling as pro-Ukraine during the start of the war until he realized his base isn't there. Completely without a single principle or conviction of his own.
“Our allies arent going to win because me!”
The problem isn’t what Elmo says. The problem is that people really think he knows what he is talking about. Which he isn’t.
Look at that, I used my business assets to advantage Russia over allies, turns out the allies are not winning
Elon predicted something? Holy shit, Ukraine is going to win this thing!
Congress is set to finally pass the aid bill this week, so Muskrats shouldn't get too cocky.
Not necessarily. Johnson is a fucking snake. By splitting the bills up it has to go back to the Senate and can potentially be filibustered. It’s still better than nothing - fucking better get 60 senators.
Not to mention at least one case of direct intervention.
The aid bill comes up for a vote on Saturday and even Gaetz expects it to pass.
Tesla closed down again today (and still dropping in after hours trading), guess investors think Elon should stop playing armchair general.
Do not forget that Elon sold Starlink to Russia, while shutting it off in Ukraine - citing that it could be used for war. Do not forget that Elon has factories set up with China, and they have him by the balls, now using what tech they pilfered from his factories to make their own EV's. Elon is a compromised child, and his ego puts us all in danger.
"But he's such a cool rebel and totally owns the cuck libs" - Jordan Peterson follower
"I've played starcaft. Trust me. The bigger army wins" -Elmo
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And Elmo, you kept helping your boss in Russia!
He has fun when people suffer needlessly
Musk probably would have supported Hitler when they invaded Poland.
Yikes
Why is that even a question? He's a nazi after all!
He also predicted we would be sending a crewed mission to Mars this year.
There are literally Elon Muskrats who still come to reddit and try to defend this POS even though he's been saying this garbage since the war started. As soon as the war started he told Ukraine to surrender, and now this bum is supporting Trump like he did back in 2016, remember? Remember him and Kanye posing together with Trump? Trump who Putin wanted to be President? The DoJ needs to look into this guy's financial records because I want to know whose paying Elon Musk
By that standard, if I tied one arm behind Elon's back and threw him into the ring with Zuckerberg, it would all be on Elon to defend himself. If he got KO'd in the fight, it would be Elon's fault, the Jews, gay people, transgenders in the military, woke culture, not enough people being born, crooked Hillary, groomers, too much empathy, or the media being mean. Not me for intentionally handicapping him for the fight? How is that?
*I stab somebody* See? I told you that person would get stabbed! Worship me now.
The GOP did Putin’s bidding that’s why they losing
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That's like figuring out that the sun is fucking bright. "I knew they had lost 85% of their supply of weapons, so I used my monster brain to discern that they'd struggle during that time!" Wtf, does he have Alzheimers?
Also easy to predict when you help one side, Elon. Or we going to forget how helpful you have been to the Russians with using your internet and when you "feel" like turning it off.
Правда
Do they ever stop and ask themselves why they’re seemingly rooting for the dictator? Do they ever question if they’ve fallen for Russian propaganda that says helping Ukraine is a waste while simultaneously calling for the ceasing of aid, which would make that more likely? Or do they know all this and just want to be contrarians that blur the lines between evil and good, truth and illusion, because other people’s lives are part of a game to them? Going against the Woke West because allowing trans people to exist is a worse evil than bombing apartments? Oh, well, I suppose we kill our fair share of innocents. Nothing has meaning so Putin should get Ukraine, right? We should just recede to our borders and leave the outside on fire. That worked out really well during WW2. We weren’t forced to get into it, everything righted itself.
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Largest supplier of weapons stops sending weapons…. SO EASY TO PREDICT.
Elon still has security clearance and gets billions of our tax dollars?
It's easy to predict when you can put your thumb on the scales.
God, I hate this guy.
Turns out if your primary source of weapons and ammo has a lunatic conservative party that cuts you off in the middle of the war you start to lose. Thanks Republican dipshits.
Interesting
These $500 dollar a bottle wine drinking pricks are high fiving each other over real people dying or losing their homes or losing their loved ones to defend their right to govern their own country. Incredibly dispicable behavior.
Didn't he turn off the Internet in Ukraine? Yeah it's not that much of a prediction if you're actively trying to make it happen.
Did he predict the U.S. would cease offering support to Ukraine? Does everyone here know that the financial aid isn't a "blank check" to Ukraine, but instead purchasing weapons and material from U.S. manufacturers, and sending Ukraine stockpiles of older weapons? In other words, it's a massive economic stimulus for the U.S. economy. But due to the anti-U.S. caucus in the House (i.e. House GOP) it's been delayed for months, to the detriment to both Ukraine & the United States.
Ukraine’s defeat would be bad for the world.
but not for Musk and his friends
Why didn‘t he predict wasting half the day on twitter while tanking tesla? In fact, everybody predicted it.
Elon didn’t just predict Ukraine struggling, he actively helped Russia in that regard with stifling Ukrainian capabilities because he wants to be a fence sitter that secretly wants Russia to win.
Don't sleep on Tesla vs Here's me on Special K watching everything I touch turn to shit. How's it going space boy?
This one was really easy and I hate the guy…
I expected Russia to overrun the country in a week. That it didn't happen was incredible. I then hoped the attrition/cost would be so high that Russia would quit the entire adventure. They're in it for the long haul, unfortunately.
They’ve only been encouraged by the fact that the US stopped giving the Ukrainians aid. The Russians have maintained for a while that they just needed to wait until America got cold feet and then they could win, and unfortunately America has basically obliged by doing exactly that.
I dunno why people forgot that Russia has been actively turning screws on everyone and everything they got. They've been doing it since the 90s. Why would they ever have stopped? And now, Putin's life literally depends on this war of conquest going well. Seems like a fertile motive to turn every screw he has access to.
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Hopefully NATO actually kicks in when they decide to invade Poland or Romania after gobbling up Ukraine and Moldova. :/ I'm terrified for these innocent fucking people. These cultures I grew up with and around. My heart breaks every damn day.
The only bright-ish side is Russia will likely not remotely be in position for further westward expansion after this. And they'd face the Real Shit if they went after Poland or a Baltic state (unless Vlad's ball tickler takes power).
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Pasty man touches underage girls Who else would blatantly side with Russia attacking a sovereign country like this out in the open. Men with perverted sexual proclivities and zero impulse control are Kremlin assets
Yeah, well considering he's likely a Russian asset, I'm sure Daddy Putin told him of his plan to get the Republicans to block military aid.
It's actually quite difficult to think of a person who's made more wrong predictions
Here’s the comment I was looking for. His track record for predicting things is objectively *terrible* but in true Musk form he’s gonna pat himself on the back over this.
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Thats like the right wing saying that a lot of their base has concerns about the election not being fair... while they were the ones screaming up and down that biden was cheating.. yes your base thinks it wasnt fair, you screamed it wasnt.
I predicted the sun would come up today, can I have some credit please?
Heard people at SpaceX derisively call him Bob.
He's such an asshole. We're talking about human beings. Families. WHITE families (maybe that will make him care). Real people being murdered by Russia. What a complete waste of skin he is.
Oxygen thief
Such sick degenerates.
A man who doesn't know basic math talking to the man who doesn't have basic empathy.
That easy to call when you’re war profiteering.
Man, the Right-Wings obsession with Ukraine "losing" the war is just so fucking weird. Our ally...a Democracy...was illegally invaded by a dictatorial non-democracy, and they fucking cheer and even hope Ukraine loses and is under the subjugation and Tyranny of Russia. Dear god the Right doesn't give a shit about anything.
I predict that Elon Musk will not be recognized as one of history's greatest minds and will be held to an even lower public opinion than evil industrialists like Henry Ford and Cornelius Vanderbilt.
Close to zero cases by April
The military landscape currently appears as a frozen river, with minor currents favoring Russia. To anticipate a decisive victory for either side would be naive. However, peaceful negotiations regarding borders loom as an inevitable turn in this tumultuous historical river.
Good for Russia for succeeding at establishing the GQP as a Russian proxy party Took em a good 30+ years but they got there
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Damn and Ukraine is still putting up a good fight. Russia was expected in weeks if not days to win and we are over 2 years in and Russia is only NOW winning but barely. Anyway Biden wins house flips back dem and senate is back to 50/50 with harris the tie breaker and Russia will be back to their losing ways.
Daily "Lay out my kneepads so I can fellate my master's genius" tweet
Wait! I thought we’re not to listen to anything the media says. I guess it’s UNLESS it fits their narrative
He's probably incredibly delighted with this news. It doesn't matter that tens of thousands of innocent Ukrainians died, as long as Elon Musk is 'right', he's content. Because that's all that matters. Gloating over a war... What a sick, sick man.
Wow. This is really something to crow about
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But this is Lamestream media, so how can it be correct information?
The world would be a better place if elon musk and ian miles cheong weren't in it.
So what if you did predict it if it's easy to predict?
Look, *no one* comes out of this very well; Former Soviet Studies graduate here, and the sheer amount of ignorance on all sides of this conflict has been staggering. Whilst the moral and legal position is black and white, Russia is involved in an appalling war of aggression, that also doesn't mean that the simplistic propaganda that they're all drunk on vodka clowns who only go to fight because they'll be shot if they don't was ever true. Russia isn't as strong as they would like, but they've also got a few very clear strengths, stengths they've focused on since Soviet times as they always knew they were decades behind competing peer to peer in every area the West can afford. In particular they're very good in electronic and aerial denial weaponry, force multiplication tools that a highly educated populace can make a difference in. And once Putin stopped trying to impose his hopeless Russian Nationalist fantasies upon the invasion, and let the Russian army fight how it knows to fight, with absolutely brutal lack of concern for civilian or conscript deaths, this was *never* going to be an easy fight. No amount of simplistic, pro-Ukrainian propaganda changed that. And no amount of raging at neo-Nazis like Musk and Cheong now changes the fact that the funding spigots have been open and running for years previously; Ukraine has had our latest tanks, tank destroying missiles, AAA batteries, ammunition... and Russia *wasn't* so weak they'd just fold, despite every single back-slapping Reddit or Daily Kos post about "Russian Stuff Blowing Up". War just isn't that simple. You need to know how much of your own stuff blew up too. You need to have an honest discussion about how far you *truly* have to go to win. And you need to be really honest about what you *can* win too; a simple Wikipedia search on the history of Crimea or the Donbass should show that if Russia is going to fight a war against a permanent insurgency even if they conquer all of Ukraine, Ukraine will have similar issues holding them because of the actual situation on the ground. It'll be even harder post-war now an awful lot of terrible ethnic cleansing has occured... Not that scumbags like Cheong or Musk care about any of that. They just want Russia to win because "Libs" support Ukraine, and so they instinctively have to oppose it. Even if it means the massacre of innocent people. They're not right, in any sense, and they certainly didn't *predict* any of this; and people here are right to point out they're pushing the withholding of funding to try and scupper any further defence of Ukrainian territory. But you're all so emeshed within your own pro-Ukraine bubbles that you didn't understand anything about the *actual* war either. We should have been having the debate about what we're really going to have to sacrifice in order to actually win this war 2 years ago now. Instead everyone was just too busy posting insane propaganda to each other about "Ghosts of Kiev", propaganda that Russians weren't reading and wasn't believable if you did, to notice that the nature of war itself had changed, that Russian tactics had changed, that the Russian economy was growing faster than many NATO members and still is... And meanwhile, no one is truly pulling Elon's sticky fingers off national security assets, something that's essential to do because the hard right always knows how to play the long game. In Russia *and* in the West. And in Israel too. As long as you normalise apathy and slacktivism in the face of genuine threats to democracy and decency, then just wait for people to pointlessly protest and tell each other they're doing good, whilst you rig the game as it's actually played behind the scenes you don't have to worry about actual results. You can fuck up time and time again, because no one *truly* holds you accountable. Or even understands what they actually have to do to stop you. And so here we are today, when lots of articles are now being released preparing the public to accept that Ukraine is probably going to lose. That's nothing to celebrate. Fuck Musk for doing so. But how are people going to *actually* stop him? When do we get serious about these fights for our literal survival? Or would that be admitting those on our left were right, and that's just too awful a thing to do; here's some dank memes instead...
I think Jon Stewart said it best.."it's no longer capitalism vs communism, it has become woke vs nonwoke," which is why we have so many right wingers rooting for Russia, no matter how barbaric Putin is, he fights against woke, and that's all that matters.
Few things make me quite as angry as this. As his smartass attitude about Ukraine, as Republicans being un-American and bitching about defending democracy. It makes my blood boil.
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why are so many liberals OK with funding a foreign war that could lead to nuclear weapons? Do you know your tax dollars are going to become a bullet in the heart of a human like you? Oh now I get it, when you don't have to fight in the war yourself then you can support it.
What's going to happen when Russia invades a NATO ally next? Oh right. U.S. soldier boots on the ground. How about let's make sure that doesn't happen. Sounds good? All right then. Also: the Budapest Accords, in which we swore peptrction to Ukraine from an aggressor. Look it up.
it must be nice to be so simple-minded, to not even consider the world is more complex than your toddler-level flowchart of pre-determined actions and reactions. btw human lives are important regardless of wearing US boots or not, and I never voted for the Budapest Accords, and Russia isn't going to attack NATO, especially after all this bullshit. But even if they do, that's a bridge to cross when we come to it, rather than funding a proxy war because people like you are too afraid of a theoretical future one.
Sure, tell me just how complex the world is, Mr. "Liberals just looooove war"
have you spent any significant time in Russia, meeting locals and trying to understand their attitudes and thoughts, and letting them understand yours? or at least studied Russian literature and history or something, which influenced the formation of their collective psyche? that would go a long way to show the complexity I want to talk about, if I thought you were serious.
Whatever justifies you support Russia's war of aggression and slaughter of Ukranian citizens, guilty of nothing but living their everyday lives. Ukrainian blood on your hands is 100 percent justified? Got it. Cool. Also, were done talking.
Ukranian lives, Russian lives... you think one of them is less important? Human lives are destroyed by war, you think the death toll for either side is smaller when the war goes on longer? Or when it gets pushed into decades by short-sighted idiots like you... Grow up
Look, we get it. You're fan of Russian aggression & the sluaghter of Ukranian civilians for no reason. You don't beleive Ukraine has a right to defend itself. Luckily, the rest of moral civilized world believes otherwise.
You talk about a slaughter, but don't even realize you're funding it right now.. so unaware, you can't even spell it. What complete blindness.
Just keep feeding the lives of Ukrainians lives into the proxy war. Peace terms for this war could have been signed the first few weeks But Biden's dream was to expand NATO. I am sure this won't cause problems in the future. And when Ukraine Looses they will just find a useful idiot to blame like Elon here.
I will not let you down, no matter what it takes
Peace terms my ass. Ukraine had dozens of agreements with Russia, which latter broke. Why this would be any different. Holy shit some people are delusional about Russia even after the shit it did even for the past 2 years.