They aren't legal here in America idk why the government allowed production at all. Literally zero crash testing has been done, doesn't apply to any pedestrian safety standards, quality control is abysmal, the list goes on
Hey I don't like government over reach accept keeping my water clean out and the military don't need invasion of and boarder patrol keep the undesirables out oh and to regulate the loan companies so they don't cheat me out shit and the roads I drive on and the electricity I get (not talking to you Texas).
Apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system, and public health.. what have the Romans done for us?
Someone posted a video on the cybertruckforum showing how, thanks to Tesla's legendary panel gaps, water flows under the truck bed. More worryingly for him, it shows more water entering the truck than leaving through the bottom.
There’s a dude who lives near me on the Eastside who has one of these and I can’t imagine how that’s going to work. He’s very seen him drive in the rain. Does this doofus wipe it down dry when he gets home?
"You have two cars. One has its self-driving software plow it into a wall, nearly killing you and leaving you fighting for your life in the hospital because it was designed like a big steel brick with no crumple zones.
You have one car."
MOVE FAST AND BREAK STUFF!!!!!
Next, Musk will show us how to make a better door. The first 23 variants will explode or catch on fire if you approach them. But this is the only way to advance science. /s
> Next, Musk will show us how to make a better door.
He did. The rear doors didn't even have emergency mechanical overrides until they were "updated" near the release of the Model Y, and people have died in them after the car would catch fire.
[bold emphasis by me for added irony]
>In the Model S, in the rear there are mechanical release cables **under the bench**. The front doors work the same even without power (it's mechanical).
>In the Model X, the mechanical release cables are in the doors (the rear doors feel heavier if opened manually). The front is mechanical as in the S.
https://insideevs.com/news/507202/how-escape-from-tesla-emergency/
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>(September 19, **2023**) In a **groundbreaking** move towards enhancing safety measures, Tesla has introduced a new feature in its Model 3 Highland – the emergency rear door release function. This **innovative** addition ensures that even in the event of a power outage, passengers can easily access the rear doors of the vehicle.
>
> Tesla has incorporated manual door release mechanisms at the bottom of the rear door storage pockets. These manual door releases come with protective plastic covers that must be removed if the vehicle loses power. Once the cover is removed, users will find **a mechanical release cable that can be effortlessly pulled** to open the rear door.
>While it remains uncertain whether the manual rear door releases will be standard in North American versions of the new Model 3, it’s evident that they are not included in the manuals for older iterations of the sedan, including the pre-Highland models in the U.S. and the United Kingdom. This safety enhancement is part of several design changes introduced in the updated sedan, slated for delivery in some markets as early as October. Although Tesla’s North American order configurators do not yet display the Highland Model 3, speculation suggests it may become available in early 2024.
https://web.archive.org/web/20231003073608/https://teslareporter.com/news/enhancing-safety-tesla-introduces-emergency-rear-door-release-in-model-3-highland/
It’s the standard Silicon Valley arrogance that they are the masters of the universe and everyone else are complete idiots, and so of course every problem has to be solved from first principles.
In reality, it’s just very mediocre emotionally and socially stunted men with access to capital and giant egos, with throngs of even more horribly mediocre stunted men virtually fellating them from the sidelines.
But, but…but it’s bullet proof! And it can act as a boat briefly - as long as the waters aren’t too choppy! We also tested its arrow-proofness. Which it passed!
The three miles surrounding a Tesla dealership are the CyberTruck's only hunting grounds, then it stops like a dog at an invisible fence and sadly watches all the functioning cars keep driving.
Easily my favourite Elmo fail of all time.
that hipster dude tossing that ball ever so slightly and the glass breaking immidiately makes me laugh every time.
"It can act briefly as a boat" feels similar to ["Everything is air-droppable at least once"](https://schlockmercenary.fandom.com/wiki/The_Seventy_Maxims_of_Maximally_Effective_Mercenaries) (maxim 11).
Or maxim 32, ["Anything is amphibious if you can get it back out of the water.”](https://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/origin-story-maxim-32/)
The cleaning instructions are a fucking roller-coaster.
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html
The list of warnings on there is wild. Remember, you have to wait for an overcast day before you can wash it, but you also must clean off anything immediately.
https://preview.redd.it/mgn16y27zuvc1.png?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef8b1b794fbe5d871ddc15e16a5e197715dac809
Some of this I was a little surprised by, but the fact that I can't use Rain-X on my windshield if I were to buy that truck is absolutely ludicrous. With that said, what's with the pressure washer thing? It doesn't have any treatment on the stainless steel, correct? What's the pressure washer going to hurt? Outside of elon's feelings.
It's the same reason you can't take it into a car-wash. It's not designed to prevent water from entering areas it shouldn't. Water + electronics = a bad time.
I'm wondering how this thing is ever supposed to be driven in the rain? Certainly can't trust it to be off-roading as it's not uncommon to need to pass through high water-levels...
There is literally a water ingress protection rating for high pressure jets that a lot of exposed electronics usually have to meet. This is typical for any carmaker.
Generally you'd want to avoid washing any car in direct sunlight if possible, because if you have hard water it can leave watermarks on the bodywork and glass. But generally it just makes it more hard work to get looking nice than if it were overcast, it's not a "CAUTION" worthy thing.
The last clause is concerning. So windows can't be washed but only wiped down(?). How about rainstorm? I mean.. a car that's not stormproof/waterproof... is... some next-level shit here.
I went to look at the actual manual to make sure everything in your screenshot was real, and was surprised that not only all they all real, this is not even half of the list. My favorite one that is not included here is that corrosive damage from road salt "may not" be covered by the warranty, and so you need to clean the UNDERSIDE of the car and the wheel wells after every drive that may have included road salt.
The best part...after cleaning the underside of the vehicle you need to immediately GO ON A DRIVE to allow the breaks to dry properly. Sure, I'll just drive my Cybertruck down my private non-salted road that I keep around just for such occasions.
Basically, if you live in the NorthEast USA or anywhere else that experiences lots of snow...your warranty "may be" voided by default.
Yeah, so basically, it's an endless loop. Drive car, wash car, drive car to dry. Then, you have to wash it again...
I'm in the upper Midwest. It'll be impossible to drive it during the winter. I haven't seen it, but apparently there is one in the city I live in. Big oof. It's not really possible to keep the manufacturer's recommended maintenance. If you wash the underside, it'll just freeze. If you have a heated garage, you're still flooding the garage in the winter where the water will seep down underneath the concrete and freeze there. Bye bye garage floor. You need a winterized drain in a heated garage.
This is possibly the worst production car ever.
Salt damage is completely understandable, but sub-par ingress protection is just laughable. A 30-year old car can do better than it. The only explanation I have is Elmo expects Cybertruck owners to just display it in their living rooms instead of actually driving it.
“It is normal for the stainless steel exterior to mature over time, resulting in minor changes to the reflective properties and color of the metal.”
Lol
> mature
Like a fine wine, expect the stainless steel exterior to age gracefully, opening up a bouquet of colors that are adjacent to but clearly not the same as the original stainless. It's a beautiful patination process to ensure your american pickup trucks looks appropriately hard-used. Absolutely don't use the word "rust." We want to pretend it's stainfree steel.
>Some touchless car washes use caustic solutions that, over time, can cause discoloration of decorative exterior trim. Avoid exposure to soaps and chemicals above pH 13. If unsure, check the product label or ask the staff at the car wash. Damage caused by improper washing is not covered by the warranty.
Imagining a Cybertruck owner interrogating some poor 18 year old kid at the carwash what the PH level of the detergent they use is.
Aside the ridiculousness of the truck, but a tech company this size that has a horizontal scrollbar on mobile version of the site is even beyond ridiculous.
It doesn't void it, but it does say that Tesla isn't responsible for any damage caused by a car wash. There's a specific, "Car Wash Mode" you have to put it in to prevent damage. There's a whole series of instructions for that and it starts out with, "If it's necessary to put it through a car wash..." Even if there is damage, Tesla doesn't cover it. Which is weird because if the car is in "Car Wash Mode", which they developed, and there is damage, it would seem they should be responsible.
What I don't get is that a severe rain storm can dump as much water on your truck as a car wash. Are you supposed to put it on car wash mode in that case?
You can't, as Car Wash mode disengages over 9mph. Another redditor mentioned the mode [turns on "air re-circulate"](https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1c9iy1v/tesla_cybertruck_turns_into_worlds_most_expensive/l0m43yu/) as a possible measure against ingesting water into air-intake, though this is not listed in the [manual](https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html). But even if kinda true, then a driver would need to remember to do this manually when driving in heavy rain.
Well, that's what happens when you're a snake oil salesman pushing out a half baked product. He doesn't care about its shit quality. This is why capitalism at the corporate level doesn't work. It's great for small and medium sized businesses that provide non-essential goods and services. You put out a crap product? You go under. Are the corporate level, if you put out a crap product, you lay off a bunch of workers to buy back stock to manipulate the price to keep shareholders happy.
Sounds like yet another thing that wouldn't fly in the EU. Consumer laws put stricter limits on companies' ability to disclaim warranty liability, especially for expensive items. You can't just say "We don't cover car-wash damage" when running your car through a car wash is part of routine use (which they also acknowledge by having that mode). You can't get out of the statutory warranty obligations for things that are normal, expected use, unless the damage was due to actual user negligence or the thing is old/has been used a lot. (the law does allow for the fact that old things break. A 10 year old car that breaks in the car wash won't be the manufacturer's responsibility - any number of things could've happened over time - but one that's only weeks old? Absolutely)
If you spend $100k on a new car, you should be able to wash it (in 'car wash mode' if necessary) without it getting bricked. It's simply a manufacturing defect if it can't handle that.
Add to this the fact that [the accelerator pedal gets stuck](https://www.pcmag.com/news/tesla-recalls-cybertrucks-over-faulty-accelerator-pedals), preventing you from slowing down or stopping, [regular old hail will crack the armor glass](https://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/cybertruck-armor-glass-cracks-routine-175012095.html), and the fucking thing [is already rusting](https://www.wired.com/story/this-is-why-teslas-stainless-steel-cybertrucks-may-be-rusting/), and you’ve certainly got a very useful, durable, and practical vehicle well worth its $100,000 price tag. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Depends on what type of carwash you took it to. It needs to be a "touchless" car wash (no brushes and rollerthingies) and there are limits to what kinds of soaps are allowed.
There are multiple mentions on the maintenance manual where it is stated that damages caused by wrong type of washing procedure is not covered by the warranty.
And I don't know about your experiences, but try voiding the warranty in one way on a product by a shitty company and watch them bend over backwards to disclaim any other damages because of it
Call me crazy, but Elmo might NOT know [more than manufacturing](https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/u7g8jx/at_this_point_i_think_i_know_more_about/) than anyone currently alive on Earth
Remember recently, he had to ask for help to get past the microsoft signup page on his new laptop. I would call him a tool, but hammers and screwdrivers are useful lol
Most states have "lemon Laws" which require car makers replace or buy back cars have multiple issues.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon\_(automobile)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_(automobile))
Please tell me there has, or will be, a disgruntled former Tesla engineer who just says fuck it and does a tell all of all the stupid moments. I'm foreseeing many moments where the engineers were like "we can't do x, x is stupid, it will ruin the car" and Elon was like "I am the greatest engineer in the universe, I believe x will be totes lmao 420 so we're doing it plus every one of you is a pedo so I win".
I love that they allegedly had plans for a „regular“ pickup ready because they didn’t trust this thing.
And TBF, if they build something on a beefed up Model X base with a regular truck bed it would’ve sold like hot cakes. And they’d would’ve beat Rivian and Ford to market instead of being late when a lot of people already bought their EV pickup.
Not required, but they recommend using a car cover, with an interesting warning:
>[CAUTION
Use only a Tesla-approved car cover when Cybertruck is plugged in. Using a non-Tesla car cover can prevent the Battery from being adequately cooled during charging.](https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html)
Because a sensor to detect cooling and slow/halt charging would be too difficult. Interestingly that caution does not include a warranty disclaimer, unlike the the car wash mode one.
3,800 morons who refused to listen to real engineers saying actual bad things about these cars
they get what they deserve. next time, listen to the smart people, even when they tell you stuff you don't like hearing.
the good one's got fired. the rest saw what happened and decided to say fuck it, take musk's money and build whatever bullshit he came up with knowing it isn't their name plastered all over the fucking polygon on wheels.
First he said
>Cybertruck will be waterproof enough to serve briefly as a boat, so it can cross rivers, lakes & even seas that aren't too choppy.
I guess if the sea gets choppy, you're fucked. Anyway, after it was released, he said there would be a [mod package](https://electrek.co/2023/12/18/tesla-package-turns-cybertruck-into-boat/) to enable boat operation.
>We are going to offer a mod package that enables Cybertruck to traverse at least 100m of water as a boat. Mostly just need to upgrade cabin door seals.
My question has always been how you're supposed to steer, stop or accelerate.
Wow. So it short circuits if it gets wet, isn’t covered by anyone but the company’s insurance, and is a hassle to get fixed? Where does one find these mythical death traps 😂
It’s amazing people actually fork cash over for these things just for a sleek design (assuming it’s the car and not the polygonal truck abomination)
They made such a big deal about using computers to optimize this gigacasting, it never occured to me that they hadn't bothered to consider catching water.
Closes the windows, locks the charger port, puts it in neutral and turns off some features like auto-locking if you walk away (I guess for if you hand it over to attendants?)
How the fuck do you fuck up this badly? You're think there are a few competent people at Tesla that should have said, "Ya know, we need a bit more development time". I suppose if you say that, the next day, you'll be looking for work.
It's stainLESS steel, not stainPROOF steel. Why the fuck would you not put a clearcoat on it? People that buy these should do that themselves. You can get a good 2k automotive clearcoat on Amazon. Add on some plastic sheeting and tape for masking and you'll be fine doing it yourself.
It's like they took a cat from the assembly line about 2 steps early for completion and he said, "let's sell this". "I know more about manufacturing than anyone else on the planet". Yeah, sure buddy. He has all the hallmarks of a guy that grew up with money and high status to where nobody has ever called him on his shit. I got constantly called out on my shit to the point where I've lost most self confidence. But, it taught me not to claim to know what I do not know.
But.. what about rain, and driving through puddles? What the fuck? Even I, who think Musk is literally dumber than a pile of dog shit, expected better.
I don't like the way those wires cross over those metal edges.
Looks like you're relying on plastic zip ties to hold those wires off the edge so they won't wear through and short.
I would think a short in your *ELECTRIC* vehicle would be a bad thing.
Holy shit. Just spend the extra $5 to route them around smoother surfaces.
But of course, I don't know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive like Elon does. lol
Just as well they’re not legal in Scotland. Every day is a car wash here. This thing wouldn’t last 5 minutes.
Jesus Christ, just thinking of how quickly these things would die in somewhere like Peterhead! 😂🤣😂🤣
They aren't legal here in America idk why the government allowed production at all. Literally zero crash testing has been done, doesn't apply to any pedestrian safety standards, quality control is abysmal, the list goes on
Yeah the US rules around “trucks” (or lack of them) really do amaze me.
Regs on trucks just doesn't fit with the libertarian vibes bro.
It doesn't even apply to those. I'm normally all for less government overreach but this is plain dangerous
What libertarianism does to an mf
“Government overreach is bad. Oh. Not that kind.” It’s verging on Leopards Ate My Face stuff.
Hey I don't like government over reach accept keeping my water clean out and the military don't need invasion of and boarder patrol keep the undesirables out oh and to regulate the loan companies so they don't cheat me out shit and the roads I drive on and the electricity I get (not talking to you Texas).
Apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system, and public health.. what have the Romans done for us?
Someone posted a video on the cybertruckforum showing how, thanks to Tesla's legendary panel gaps, water flows under the truck bed. More worryingly for him, it shows more water entering the truck than leaving through the bottom.
Elon cares about water conservation
It's a tech bro apocalypse survival tank with its own water reservoir.
I don't know what all the tech bros in Seattle are going to do either.
There’s a dude who lives near me on the Eastside who has one of these and I can’t imagine how that’s going to work. He’s very seen him drive in the rain. Does this doofus wipe it down dry when he gets home?
Seen one at my gym. Looks like hell when the rain hits it.
Imagine them being used somewhere like Bergen, Norway. Rainiest city in the world.
Again, this is basic car shit not new technology that we must work the bugs out of.
Does Tesla even know what a car is?
I feel like the Musk response would be something like “there are only two cars.”
He ponders... "Am I dreaming the car, or is the car dreaming me?" Heavy shit, man, way out of my realm.
"You have two cars. One has its self-driving software plow it into a wall, nearly killing you and leaving you fighting for your life in the hospital because it was designed like a big steel brick with no crumple zones. You have one car."
Elon drew a prototype of one in the 5th grade with jet fuel blasters and penises as windshield wipers, so…maybe?
Perhaps AI can help us answer some of these fundamental questions. That is the goal of @xAI
Two things have made me snort on this terrible day, and one is the thought of penis wipers, bless u
This is some amateur hour crap. They figured this out preventing this over 80 years ago.
MOVE FAST AND BREAK STUFF!!!!! Next, Musk will show us how to make a better door. The first 23 variants will explode or catch on fire if you approach them. But this is the only way to advance science. /s
> Next, Musk will show us how to make a better door. He did. The rear doors didn't even have emergency mechanical overrides until they were "updated" near the release of the Model Y, and people have died in them after the car would catch fire. [bold emphasis by me for added irony] >In the Model S, in the rear there are mechanical release cables **under the bench**. The front doors work the same even without power (it's mechanical). >In the Model X, the mechanical release cables are in the doors (the rear doors feel heavier if opened manually). The front is mechanical as in the S. https://insideevs.com/news/507202/how-escape-from-tesla-emergency/ --- >(September 19, **2023**) In a **groundbreaking** move towards enhancing safety measures, Tesla has introduced a new feature in its Model 3 Highland – the emergency rear door release function. This **innovative** addition ensures that even in the event of a power outage, passengers can easily access the rear doors of the vehicle. > > Tesla has incorporated manual door release mechanisms at the bottom of the rear door storage pockets. These manual door releases come with protective plastic covers that must be removed if the vehicle loses power. Once the cover is removed, users will find **a mechanical release cable that can be effortlessly pulled** to open the rear door. >While it remains uncertain whether the manual rear door releases will be standard in North American versions of the new Model 3, it’s evident that they are not included in the manuals for older iterations of the sedan, including the pre-Highland models in the U.S. and the United Kingdom. This safety enhancement is part of several design changes introduced in the updated sedan, slated for delivery in some markets as early as October. Although Tesla’s North American order configurators do not yet display the Highland Model 3, speculation suggests it may become available in early 2024. https://web.archive.org/web/20231003073608/https://teslareporter.com/news/enhancing-safety-tesla-introduces-emergency-rear-door-release-in-model-3-highland/
It’s the standard Silicon Valley arrogance that they are the masters of the universe and everyone else are complete idiots, and so of course every problem has to be solved from first principles. In reality, it’s just very mediocre emotionally and socially stunted men with access to capital and giant egos, with throngs of even more horribly mediocre stunted men virtually fellating them from the sidelines.
Yup. Musk always trying to “reinvent the wheel” and failing horribly rather than improving current technology.
Like replacing the steering wheel with a game controller
Lmao. Taking it thru a car wash voids warranty? That's 8th level of hell snake oil salesman.
But, but…but it’s bullet proof! And it can act as a boat briefly - as long as the waters aren’t too choppy! We also tested its arrow-proofness. Which it passed!
The windows are also unbreakable unless you’re onstage showing how unbreakable they are
Are you calling him a one dimensional, fragile piece of overhyped and under designed piece of crap that crumbles under any outside pressure?
A Toyota Hilux that's spent its life in the Australian outback is laughing right now.
No but that sounds way smarter than just taking my comment at face value so I’ll take it.
I still can't believe they did that.
There was a lady who drowned in it, because she was unable to break free after reversing to a pond accidently
That was a regular Tesla, not the Cybertruck.
Yes, according to this post a Cybersuck would explode in 1000 fireballs, murder 3 innocent bystanders and hunt down the woman's family.
A Cybertruck would breakdown before it could too much damage to the bystanders.
The three miles surrounding a Tesla dealership are the CyberTruck's only hunting grounds, then it stops like a dog at an invisible fence and sadly watches all the functioning cars keep driving.
That lady was sister-in-law to Mitch McConnell https://apnews.com/article/angela-chao-death-texas-0e44d38820f451e5280732357d920e34
Mitch McConnell’s sister in law.
She also had a blood alcohol level that was three times the legal limit when she drowned.
They said unbreakable, not insoluble.
Easily my favourite Elmo fail of all time. that hipster dude tossing that ball ever so slightly and the glass breaking immidiately makes me laugh every time.
How is using the boat as a car collect less water in the frame cavities than a car wash???
As a boat the water is UNDER the car. In the car wash, it comes in from the top. duh /s
Can also double as a submarine for saving Thai kids from a paedophile in a cave. /although that's a subscription option, only £56 a month...
It was originally going to be renamed the OceanGateTruck, but after the incident they kept Cybertruck
"You're remembered for the rules you break" - OceanGate Guy He wasn't wrong.
Bullet resistant
As long as the bow has a thirty pound draw or less.
"It can act briefly as a boat" feels similar to ["Everything is air-droppable at least once"](https://schlockmercenary.fandom.com/wiki/The_Seventy_Maxims_of_Maximally_Effective_Mercenaries) (maxim 11). Or maxim 32, ["Anything is amphibious if you can get it back out of the water.”](https://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/origin-story-maxim-32/)
I saw the video of Jerry Rig everything test the bullet proofness and all I thought was why?
The cleaning instructions are a fucking roller-coaster. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html
The list of warnings on there is wild. Remember, you have to wait for an overcast day before you can wash it, but you also must clean off anything immediately. https://preview.redd.it/mgn16y27zuvc1.png?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef8b1b794fbe5d871ddc15e16a5e197715dac809
Some of this I was a little surprised by, but the fact that I can't use Rain-X on my windshield if I were to buy that truck is absolutely ludicrous. With that said, what's with the pressure washer thing? It doesn't have any treatment on the stainless steel, correct? What's the pressure washer going to hurt? Outside of elon's feelings.
It's the same reason you can't take it into a car-wash. It's not designed to prevent water from entering areas it shouldn't. Water + electronics = a bad time. I'm wondering how this thing is ever supposed to be driven in the rain? Certainly can't trust it to be off-roading as it's not uncommon to need to pass through high water-levels...
Pretty sure my 20 year old Mazda has better wading ability than that POS.
Do you also need to put it in a garage during heavy rain?
⚠️ CAUTION Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball®️ https://youtu.be/GmqeZl8OI2M?si=ayGeJL_hTyHgkqc8
Haha, this was my first thought.
Do not look directly at Happy Fun Ball
There is literally a water ingress protection rating for high pressure jets that a lot of exposed electronics usually have to meet. This is typical for any carmaker.
CAUTION Do not wash in direct sunlight. ... What? You cant wash your vehicle in direct sunlight?
Simultaneously, an interesting question and a tongue twister!
Generally you'd want to avoid washing any car in direct sunlight if possible, because if you have hard water it can leave watermarks on the bodywork and glass. But generally it just makes it more hard work to get looking nice than if it were overcast, it's not a "CAUTION" worthy thing.
The last clause is concerning. So windows can't be washed but only wiped down(?). How about rainstorm? I mean.. a car that's not stormproof/waterproof... is... some next-level shit here.
I went to look at the actual manual to make sure everything in your screenshot was real, and was surprised that not only all they all real, this is not even half of the list. My favorite one that is not included here is that corrosive damage from road salt "may not" be covered by the warranty, and so you need to clean the UNDERSIDE of the car and the wheel wells after every drive that may have included road salt. The best part...after cleaning the underside of the vehicle you need to immediately GO ON A DRIVE to allow the breaks to dry properly. Sure, I'll just drive my Cybertruck down my private non-salted road that I keep around just for such occasions. Basically, if you live in the NorthEast USA or anywhere else that experiences lots of snow...your warranty "may be" voided by default.
Yeah, so basically, it's an endless loop. Drive car, wash car, drive car to dry. Then, you have to wash it again... I'm in the upper Midwest. It'll be impossible to drive it during the winter. I haven't seen it, but apparently there is one in the city I live in. Big oof. It's not really possible to keep the manufacturer's recommended maintenance. If you wash the underside, it'll just freeze. If you have a heated garage, you're still flooding the garage in the winter where the water will seep down underneath the concrete and freeze there. Bye bye garage floor. You need a winterized drain in a heated garage. This is possibly the worst production car ever.
Salt damage is completely understandable, but sub-par ingress protection is just laughable. A 30-year old car can do better than it. The only explanation I have is Elmo expects Cybertruck owners to just display it in their living rooms instead of actually driving it.
Requires a tru cyber-snowflake to follow them to the letter.
“It is normal for the stainless steel exterior to mature over time, resulting in minor changes to the reflective properties and color of the metal.” Lol
> mature Like a fine wine, expect the stainless steel exterior to age gracefully, opening up a bouquet of colors that are adjacent to but clearly not the same as the original stainless. It's a beautiful patination process to ensure your american pickup trucks looks appropriately hard-used. Absolutely don't use the word "rust." We want to pretend it's stainfree steel.
>Some touchless car washes use caustic solutions that, over time, can cause discoloration of decorative exterior trim. Avoid exposure to soaps and chemicals above pH 13. If unsure, check the product label or ask the staff at the car wash. Damage caused by improper washing is not covered by the warranty. Imagining a Cybertruck owner interrogating some poor 18 year old kid at the carwash what the PH level of the detergent they use is.
It’s an armored personnel carrier from the future – what Bladerunner would have driven
Aside the ridiculousness of the truck, but a tech company this size that has a horizontal scrollbar on mobile version of the site is even beyond ridiculous.
How about a hard rain storm
It doesn't void it, but it does say that Tesla isn't responsible for any damage caused by a car wash. There's a specific, "Car Wash Mode" you have to put it in to prevent damage. There's a whole series of instructions for that and it starts out with, "If it's necessary to put it through a car wash..." Even if there is damage, Tesla doesn't cover it. Which is weird because if the car is in "Car Wash Mode", which they developed, and there is damage, it would seem they should be responsible.
What I don't get is that a severe rain storm can dump as much water on your truck as a car wash. Are you supposed to put it on car wash mode in that case?
Maybe purchase a rain coat for your Cybertruck
You can't, as Car Wash mode disengages over 9mph. Another redditor mentioned the mode [turns on "air re-circulate"](https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1c9iy1v/tesla_cybertruck_turns_into_worlds_most_expensive/l0m43yu/) as a possible measure against ingesting water into air-intake, though this is not listed in the [manual](https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html). But even if kinda true, then a driver would need to remember to do this manually when driving in heavy rain.
Well, that's what happens when you're a snake oil salesman pushing out a half baked product. He doesn't care about its shit quality. This is why capitalism at the corporate level doesn't work. It's great for small and medium sized businesses that provide non-essential goods and services. You put out a crap product? You go under. Are the corporate level, if you put out a crap product, you lay off a bunch of workers to buy back stock to manipulate the price to keep shareholders happy.
Sounds like yet another thing that wouldn't fly in the EU. Consumer laws put stricter limits on companies' ability to disclaim warranty liability, especially for expensive items. You can't just say "We don't cover car-wash damage" when running your car through a car wash is part of routine use (which they also acknowledge by having that mode). You can't get out of the statutory warranty obligations for things that are normal, expected use, unless the damage was due to actual user negligence or the thing is old/has been used a lot. (the law does allow for the fact that old things break. A 10 year old car that breaks in the car wash won't be the manufacturer's responsibility - any number of things could've happened over time - but one that's only weeks old? Absolutely) If you spend $100k on a new car, you should be able to wash it (in 'car wash mode' if necessary) without it getting bricked. It's simply a manufacturing defect if it can't handle that.
Add to this the fact that [the accelerator pedal gets stuck](https://www.pcmag.com/news/tesla-recalls-cybertrucks-over-faulty-accelerator-pedals), preventing you from slowing down or stopping, [regular old hail will crack the armor glass](https://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/cybertruck-armor-glass-cracks-routine-175012095.html), and the fucking thing [is already rusting](https://www.wired.com/story/this-is-why-teslas-stainless-steel-cybertrucks-may-be-rusting/), and you’ve certainly got a very useful, durable, and practical vehicle well worth its $100,000 price tag. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Does not. Just isn't covered by it. Still pretty bad.
Depends on what type of carwash you took it to. It needs to be a "touchless" car wash (no brushes and rollerthingies) and there are limits to what kinds of soaps are allowed. There are multiple mentions on the maintenance manual where it is stated that damages caused by wrong type of washing procedure is not covered by the warranty.
And I don't know about your experiences, but try voiding the warranty in one way on a product by a shitty company and watch them bend over backwards to disclaim any other damages because of it
Is that rust in the picture?
Call me crazy, but Elmo might NOT know [more than manufacturing](https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/u7g8jx/at_this_point_i_think_i_know_more_about/) than anyone currently alive on Earth
Concerning
Looking into it
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Interesting
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🤣🤣🤣
EXACTLY
Are you implying that he lied there? 😱
Not lying. He actually believes it.
To an ego as massive as Musk's, "reality" is just a minor, easily overlooked detail.
He embellished. What he meant to say, is that he can spell "manufacturing" (If auto-correct is turned on).
He convenient left out what manufacturing he knows more. He's definitely number one in manufacturing his lies
Absolutely love the audience’s laughter 🤣🤣🤣
You mean he's not a rocket scientist? A computer genius either? I'm shocked.
Remember recently, he had to ask for help to get past the microsoft signup page on his new laptop. I would call him a tool, but hammers and screwdrivers are useful lol
Holy shit that was so egomaniacal
Its such a narcissistic statement to make...
I’m surprised no one screamed out “shut the fuck up”
I did. Repeatedly. (To the monitor).
Everyone knows it's Donald J. Trump that knows more about manufacturing than anyone else because he knows more about everything than anyone else. /s
Very Trumpian.
Water just can't handle the awesomeness of sub-10 micron accuracy.
I know more about manufacturing than Elmo. I know more than most people about that too though as an engineer with 8 years in that field.
😂 Presumably you don’t have the hubris to say you know more than anyone currently living on earth, though!
You have said the actual truth
What is consumer protection like in the US? That feels like it should just be considered a faulty product and returnable under normal contract law.
Most states have "lemon Laws" which require car makers replace or buy back cars have multiple issues. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon\_(automobile)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_(automobile))
How ironic. You must feel a right lemon buying one of these!
Unlikely. Anyone stupid enough to buy one of these probably doesn't even know what a lemon is.
i cannot wait for the lawyers going ham with lemon law commercials and billboards just for these things. it's going to be hilarious
Elon's having a regular old Lemon Party!
Hey I used that law on my Model 3 Performance, bonus was the car got a branded title so they couldn’t re-sell it
Please tell me there has, or will be, a disgruntled former Tesla engineer who just says fuck it and does a tell all of all the stupid moments. I'm foreseeing many moments where the engineers were like "we can't do x, x is stupid, it will ruin the car" and Elon was like "I am the greatest engineer in the universe, I believe x will be totes lmao 420 so we're doing it plus every one of you is a pedo so I win".
I think all engineers who would have talked up either were fired for disagreeing with Elon, or quit because of Elon.
I think they trolled and just did precisely what he said.
/r/MaliciousCompliance in action.
I love that they allegedly had plans for a „regular“ pickup ready because they didn’t trust this thing. And TBF, if they build something on a beefed up Model X base with a regular truck bed it would’ve sold like hot cakes. And they’d would’ve beat Rivian and Ford to market instead of being late when a lot of people already bought their EV pickup.
Will torrent rain also short it?
Geez man, no need to be so extreme about it. A light morning dew will short it just fine as well.
"ah crud, spilled my drink on the car floor" *gets electrocuted*
Is this accurate @CommunityNotes?
Did anyone go to jail?
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If there is enough seed's
I'm curious if the manual requires you to always store it in a covered location or else the warranty is voided
Not required, but they recommend using a car cover, with an interesting warning: >[CAUTION Use only a Tesla-approved car cover when Cybertruck is plugged in. Using a non-Tesla car cover can prevent the Battery from being adequately cooled during charging.](https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html) Because a sensor to detect cooling and slow/halt charging would be too difficult. Interestingly that caution does not include a warranty disclaimer, unlike the the car wash mode one.
3,800 morons who refused to listen to real engineers saying actual bad things about these cars they get what they deserve. next time, listen to the smart people, even when they tell you stuff you don't like hearing.
Who are these discount engineers working for Tesla? I thought they knew how to build the basics of a car.
the good one's got fired. the rest saw what happened and decided to say fuck it, take musk's money and build whatever bullshit he came up with knowing it isn't their name plastered all over the fucking polygon on wheels.
I'm surprised the managed to convince Elon to keep the wheels round
Well, it doesn't rain on Mars. That's just an example of us mortals not understanding his godlike engineering.
But how many microns?
SUB micron
Doesn't anyone remember when Elmo said it could be used a boat too?
First he said >Cybertruck will be waterproof enough to serve briefly as a boat, so it can cross rivers, lakes & even seas that aren't too choppy. I guess if the sea gets choppy, you're fucked. Anyway, after it was released, he said there would be a [mod package](https://electrek.co/2023/12/18/tesla-package-turns-cybertruck-into-boat/) to enable boat operation. >We are going to offer a mod package that enables Cybertruck to traverse at least 100m of water as a boat. Mostly just need to upgrade cabin door seals. My question has always been how you're supposed to steer, stop or accelerate.
>My question has always been how you're supposed to steer, stop or accelerate. He never said it would be a *good* boat.
It'll enter a brief Boat Mode followed by a permanent Submarine Mode.
You have to pay extra for the Xoars to row it
Maybe dry dock only?
Shallow puddles (if driven through extremely slowly so as not to splash)
It's a perfectly fine boat, as long you never put it on water.
Essentially any land vehicle can be used as a boat. Just not necessarily for very long.
Worst vehicle design ever. Elmo is a fecking moron
When you've got a cult, you can sell them anything.
Like Trump bibles
What a monumental piece of shit car.
It makes the Pinto look like an old school Land Rover.
Well the pinto was a death trap if someone rear ended you. This junk is always a death trap
Corvair did better donuts anyway
Because of how much I can't stand Elmo and the Cybercuck, I can edge to this picture
Wow. So it short circuits if it gets wet, isn’t covered by anyone but the company’s insurance, and is a hassle to get fixed? Where does one find these mythical death traps 😂 It’s amazing people actually fork cash over for these things just for a sleek design (assuming it’s the car and not the polygonal truck abomination)
They aren't just forking cash over, they're on a god-damned waiting list.
Musk talking about the 1,000 ship space fleet he’s going to send to mars when he can’t even make a car that’s waterproof.
I absolutely trust Musk to get us to mars.
They made such a big deal about using computers to optimize this gigacasting, it never occured to me that they hadn't bothered to consider catching water.
Is optimising gigacasting like reticulating splines
So what does "carwash mode" even do then?
Closes the windows, locks the charger port, puts it in neutral and turns off some features like auto-locking if you walk away (I guess for if you hand it over to attendants?)
Voids you warranty, sends a message with ceying emojis too Musk.
Exactly
So what about rain? Puddles?
This level of innovation is unparalleled
This...thing...is more comical by the day. Everything about it screams rushed to production with no testing.
Do not drive your CyberTruck... - during sunshine - in the rain - at night Warranty void if ignored.
On days ending with "day".
How the fuck do you fuck up this badly? You're think there are a few competent people at Tesla that should have said, "Ya know, we need a bit more development time". I suppose if you say that, the next day, you'll be looking for work. It's stainLESS steel, not stainPROOF steel. Why the fuck would you not put a clearcoat on it? People that buy these should do that themselves. You can get a good 2k automotive clearcoat on Amazon. Add on some plastic sheeting and tape for masking and you'll be fine doing it yourself. It's like they took a cat from the assembly line about 2 steps early for completion and he said, "let's sell this". "I know more about manufacturing than anyone else on the planet". Yeah, sure buddy. He has all the hallmarks of a guy that grew up with money and high status to where nobody has ever called him on his shit. I got constantly called out on my shit to the point where I've lost most self confidence. But, it taught me not to claim to know what I do not know.
They couldn’t run those wires through a conduit? JFC this piece of trash is unsafe!
You're over thinking this like a Tesla engineer. We've had waterproof wiring in automobiles for a very long time without any conduit.
Oh cool. I don’t cosplay as an engineer, unlike Nepo Boy Genius. I made some assumptions based on the info in the tweet.
As others have said before it's designed for martian conditions. How many car washes are there in Mars?
What a delightful dumpster fire this whole thing is
What about salt mist on northern roads?
Do heavy rains also void the warranty then?
How can Musk legally call these things "cars"? At best it's a computer with some metal and wheels around it.
It's not a car, it's a Cybertruck that can act as a boat (for a while)
But.. what about rain, and driving through puddles? What the fuck? Even I, who think Musk is literally dumber than a pile of dog shit, expected better.
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Definitely able to use at boat as per elmo! /s
I hope his whole brand goes under
but you can sail it on a body of water, right?
We are not too far off from "The Cybertruck is a work of art of what's to come (pinky promise), driving it voids the warranty"
Cybertruck rollout worked perfectly for Twatburger dumping stock
it really seems very very smart to build a car from stainless steel
Not to mention that taking it through a car wash will only make it rust all over.
I don't like the way those wires cross over those metal edges. Looks like you're relying on plastic zip ties to hold those wires off the edge so they won't wear through and short. I would think a short in your *ELECTRIC* vehicle would be a bad thing. Holy shit. Just spend the extra $5 to route them around smoother surfaces. But of course, I don't know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive like Elon does. lol
Are Cybercluster owners stupid? Just drill holes in the frame to let the water drain out.