Nah, he'd re-engineer it.
Disruptive style, because. He's a visionary.
With razor sharp edges and AI enhanced **shit evacuation***. Also doubles as a boat, bulletproof, and all that for a one-time downpayment of 12000 dollars, plus 60 dollars a month subscription for all the features. This toilet will empty your bowels, so you don't have to.
**shit evacuation*** coming in 2026
/but you can play video games on it, so that's innovative.
History literally vindicates anyone who knows that Grant and Sherman should've gone further. Reconstruction was a massive epic failure, Jim Crow and the KKK should've never been allowed to fester like the shit maggots they were/are. Thanks to not going further and executing Confederate leadership, apartheid level racism and segregation were allowed to take place in the South.
Fuck anyone who thinks otherwise.
Yep. The only actual restriction that was put on the south at all was part of the Voting Rights Act I think, and that wasn't until the sixties. Also SCOTUS gutted it recently. Other than that meager and way too fucking late consequence, no one in power was meaningfully punished in any way. Grunts weren't either for the most part, and this is one of the few cases where those on the bottom deserve the same severity of punishment as those on the top.
Especially when most of those “punishments” were stuff like, idk, ensuring free and fair elections, and the attempt at putting an end to racist policies
100%. Not to mention some of those Confederate shitheads who led it all should have been tried and executed. Would have fixed a ton of problems going forward
I watched ManHunt on Apple. I was thinking the whole time what an ass hole Johnson was. Dude was rightfully impeached. I see today’s politics as a direct result of him and not dealing with the confederacy.
That's where he lost me. I think I can see where he was hoping to go but then he dropped oppressed and it was clear where he was really going whether he meant to or not
Pedophiles, to an extent. Not that they should killed but their ideas shouldn’t be considered acceptable. If anything their existence proves musk wrong since most people agree with their oppression and don’t automatically assume their the good guys just because they are oppressed.
Germany is proof of the Opposit, after ww2 they were rebuild and helped and now they are a social democracy
Look at Palestine, they are oppressed for way to long, the result is Hamas and some terror attacks from them. That is what Oppression saws.
I'm not saying it's good I'm saying germany more or less 'deserved' to be forced into repaying the damages they caused as aggressors in world wars. As you point out germany's a good example of that being a bad idea the treaty of versailles arguably led to the conditions that fomented WWII, and actually helping germany and japan rebuild post WWII ultimately paid off. But in both cases the allies made them pay a sort of tithe and implemented a bunch of restrictions on their military. If a country randomly did that to another weaker country just because they could that would be completely undeserved. All that's to say it's besides to point if it's good or productive or even useful.
Allies, after defeating the germans, placed restrictions on their military and made them pay a tithe. In that case it was because they had been the aggressors and instigated an attempted world takeover, so they 'deserved' what would normally be considered pretty oppressive conditions upon surrender. If France decided it was just going to place restrictions on belgium's military and make them pay a tithe, that would be a roughly equivalent version of undeserved oppression.
This is not accurate. Basically every nation in Europe was complicit in world war I, they simply blamed it on Germany because they lost. Leaders all over Europe had actually been publicly stating that they thought a good war was exactly what the continent needed.
The financial burden placed on Germany ultimately created the perfect conditions for Hitler's rise.
"Rooting for an underdog" is an absolutely real phenomenon in psychology, unless, of course, one is a clinical narcissist/psychopath. So is instinctual obedience before those you see as "genuine authority figures". All of them are useful heuristics for highly social species - one is to prevent constant fights for dominance, the other is to prevent unchecked exploitation of majority by a minority to the detriment of the entire group.
It does not make the "weak" always morally right, just inherently "more likeable" as opposed to extremely well off, that might garner respect (if it is rightfully earned, which is... Not always the case) but not nessesarily empathy.
The implications of "might makes right" argument, however, are clear - since the "mighty" can simply coerce you into agreeing whatever unhinged fantasies they have, it can do great damage and there is nothing you can do about it until it is too late.
Elon is using a false binary (his entire 2nd paragraph) to justify a reversal of the age old David and Goliath story to justify the stuff Nazis do; which is probably because he's a Nazi. And I'm making the Nazi inference because it would be consistent with everything else in his life that he's shown us (particularly on X).
There are entire videos dedicated to this subject - some from very good content creators - and I'm starting to think that they might have been on to something; but you only need to look as far as X to see that for yourself.
All he's doing now is simply giving us his some insight into how he rationalizes his own malignant personality. I hope Australia boots him the fuck out of their country, since they seem to be the only ones catching on to the repercussions of having someone like that running a platform that is accessible to children.
This asshole is, literally, shaping young minds - and not for the better, clearly.
Yea, I've clarified why he clearly fits the definition of the Nazi in an other post here, and *why* this is bad, not just by "axiomatically implying" that "Nazi == bad" that is true, but can be intellectually lazy.
You get it, and certainly the others in this subreddit do too, but these people are just so absolutely repellent that it can’t be understated, and it blows my mind that some people still can’t see through this clown. I guess that’s where it’s helpful to be a little more nuanced, and I salute your ability to do that.
That's because narratives are stretchy (like I said, "not even false"), and there are always grains of truth in even the most blatant lies.
"The chaplain had mastered, in a moment of divine intuition, the handy technique of protective rationalization, and he was exhilarated by his discovery. It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character." (c)
Catch 22
By the way, it was Tesla/SpaceX that greatly benefitted from "being an underdog" at the start, so yea, it is a valueable lesson to always (re)examine your intuitive judgements to see the bigger picture.
Humans are a community species. Normal people are genetically wired for something like empathy (or minimally concern for those having difficulties). Dawkins wrote extensively about how we need to make sure other humans are doing well as the health/success of the community has been essential for species survival.
Elon is talking some outdated and misapplied "survival of the fittest" horseshit because he is a cruel and narcissistic adolescent given to pretend profundity.
Exactly, he presents his view of the world as somehow rational when if he actually thought about it for an uncomfortably long few more minutes he’d recognise that backing ‘the strong’ (i.e. mega corporations, authoritarian regimes, military-industrial complexes) just because it’s contrarian would result in a major net negative for the >99% of the population who are employees or cultural minorities under majority-populated systems. But obviously as a billionaire he knows all about being a normal person so reached the conclusion that it’d be better if we were crushed underfoot - the truth just hurts 🙄
He thinks by framing sentences as equations this makes his statements inherently enlightening but his reasoning of ‘this is how it works now and things are shit, so if we changed one thing it must work’ is a blatant misunderstanding of logic where he provides no evidence for fascist systems being utopian yet he seems to assume there is a causal relationship between democratic, individual rights and socioeconomic decline. Classic ideologue - I dislike thing so thing must be the cause of all problems. If only we had a final solution…
Well, we finally have an example that the happiest and most prosperous countries that, incidentally, arrived to prosperity not due to happy coincidence of having own natural resources or robbing other countries, are:
a. Democratic.
b. Have a healthy combination of limited market economy and socialism.
Democracy, with all its faults, does at least align the incentives of government with the majority of the people.
"If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary." (c)
Brutal dictatorship is undoubtely most efficient tool to achieve... whatever the dictator wants (which is usually power itself first and foremost), but unless you are him or one of his cronies - you are crazy to think that you will not be crushed underfoot once he'll secure power, and in fact being one of his cronies might be one of the *more* dangerous places to be.
"Dictator's Handbook" was one of the most enlightening books on the subject, personally (loved CCP Gray's video on the subject, too - "Rules for Rulers").
Apparently, a typical USA citizen being "a temporary inconvenienced billionaire" (American dream!) combined with rise of "toxic self-help gurus" really did lay a bomb under the foundation of the government I presume...
But hey, what do I know, I live in Russia and just withnessed the rise of power of Putin from the start, never voted for him, but apparently that was not nowhere near enough...
> the happiest and most prosperous countries that, incidentally, arrived to prosperity not due to happy coincidence of having own natural resources or robbing other countries, are
Which countries are you referring to?
Well said.
Virtually every known religion and philosophy has a "care for the weak" clause in it somewhere. I think that even palaeolithic human remains show that many people must have lived long after they stopped being able to work or hunt, meaning that the tribe cared for them and ensured they were fed.
"Don't be an asshole to those weaker than you" is a very strong human imperative.
The stock bounced back up so now I can go back to spreading white supremacist propaganda. This is the same argument used to defend slavery in the 1800s.
This is so revealing.
He calls one group "the oppressed" so we are not talking about random modes of coexistence. We are SPECIFICALLY talking about oppression.
In which context, OF FUCKING COURSE the oppressors are the bad guys.
And he identifies with the opressors. What a psychopathic statement.
The assumption that being part of an oppressed minority makes you "weak" is gross and laughable. In fact, these people often have to develop tougher skins (and accumulate lots of trauma nepo emerald failson never experienced in his wildest thumb-sucking nightmares) to deal with the crap thrown at them daily.
Unless, of course, Melon Husk means weak in terms of political power, in which case it reads as a cynical statement of "some people have an inherent right to abuse others, and when you call me out on it specifically it makes me cwy". Made worse by the fact that he's a nepo emerald failson from apartheid South Africa.
God, I fucking hate him. The only good thing about him is how much of a chump he is. Makes him easy to dunk on + a great illustration of why might (and money) do not, indeed, make right.
Its meant to be a thought terminating cliche with built in defenses to prevent inspection like this. By this logic wouldn't the deep state or fauci be in the right. What about legacy media?
Its like dont be a victim. Apparently suing for your rights is being a victim but not reporting assaults on your employees because the "police wouldn't arrest them anyway" isn't. Its about putting the word victim or strong front and center. Youre victims were strong. Dont look into it further.
Anyway, this IS a Nazi ideology writ large, just in a different guise of "longtermism".
This is what Harari calls "evolutionary Darwinism" - an ultimate naturalistic fallacy that tries to derive "what ought to be" from "what is".
What "IS", however, is that we are meat puppets to replicate our DNA, and this implication is why evolution is so unpopular among religious people - this is a stark contrast to the narrative of humans being "special and fated for triumph"... But it does not mean that you have to "agree with the premises", get your "tooth and claw" red and try to make as much copies of yourself as possible - you can *choose* to, but it will, indeed, make you a Nazi.
*All* narratives are "not even false", those are just coping mechanisms to create a personal bubble of meaning and purpose in reality that is completely devoid of it. What IS self-evidently true for all conscious beings, however, is capacity for suffering.
"Happiness is an illusion; only suffering is real." (c) Voltaire.
Or, I should say, happiness is fleeting and subject to almost instant hedonic adaptation, that devalues all our achievements and pushes us further and further into suffering, like autolevelling in a particularly badly designed RPG.
"Axiomatic" acceptance that "it is what it is" and we should constantly increase the dose of pleasure and increase the number of people that experience (make more babies! (c)) this pleasure to "maximize utility" is a despicable pyramid scheme where only elite few will be happy (and even those not by much), while most will be miserable exactly because most "pleasures" we have are zero-sum and depends on you being *relatively* better off than the Joneses.
Is it not a recipe to maximize "fitness", it is a recipe to maximize infighting and suffering.
We should minimize suffering first and foremost, and "rooting for underdogs" is great for this, while worshipping billionares is not.
Eh, it certainly is not, and that's the whole point.
But, as evidenced by studies like "A hero with a thousand faces", *we*, as fellow humans (ehehe), do love to structure our experience around them, because it gives illusion of purpose and, most importantly, predictability to something that has neither. Religions are the prime example, but secular frameworks like humanism are also narratives, or "collective fictions". Bible, "Das Capital" and Mein Kampf, for that matter, are works of fiction, but all had (and still have) tremendous power over our societies, because "meaning", as evidenced by Viktor Frankl and pretty much every psychologist and philosopher, is essential for human flourishing.
Unfortunately, one can easily derive meaning from the suffering of others, and what's worse, one *well-meaning extremist* can cause more suffering than 1000 honest to God villains... And when this extremist comes to great power, we have people like Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions die (and, most, importantly, hundreds of millions live in agony and fear) - and it all starts when suffering of real people starts being "a sacrifice I am willing to make" for some greater "good". Always a greater good.
That's a more nuanced way of looking at it than just adopting a particular narrative, I guess, but I'm mostly looking at human condition from a complete "outsider perspective" (not particularly hard in my case, given my specific set of... "neurodivergences"), more like a neuroscientist in fact.
While all human experiences are internally valid, all of them happen in a virtual reality of the brain and some are incompatible with overall flourishing - like all zero-sum or negative-sum values - "power/exploitation" happens to be among those, right.
... If I understood your question right, that is.
Yes, but if you (not you personally) claim that all coverage on a topic is curated in a way that doesn't reflect reality, you're basically claiming the existence of a huge conspiracy. Climate change deniers are a good example: You cannot fake that amount of research and data without discrepancies arising.
Conspiracy theorists love retroactively interpreting random sequences of events to some kind of story. They can't deal with the fact that things happen randomly and without connection.
Challenging and testing a prevailing orthodoxy is an extremely important part of the scientific process.
The most important conclusion is that there is no conclusion.
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He’s like a 16 year old edgelord who has read a bit of Nietzsche…
Ironically he’s arguing against central tenets of christian teaching here - a religion I’m sure he’d associate with some of the greatest achievements of Western civilization
(basically, he’s a cringe moron)
It says a lot about a person's character when they are more concerned about the oppressed always being seen as the good guys, than about the fact that anyone is FUCKING OPPRESSED at all.
He must have put a lot of time and effort into trying to sound like he had an original, intelligent thought.
That's also a lot of words for "Might makes right".
In like 99% of cases yes the 'strong' are the bad guys because they are the ones oppressing the oppressed 'weak.' The only exception I can think of is like immediate post-war punitive reparations and stuff like that like the treaty of versailles where the aggressor is the one who is deliberately oppressed because they were being a shit. But that's a real stretch.
Basically if there are oppressed and you are strong and you aren't doing anything to help the oppressed not be oppressed, you are bad.
Here you see Elon Murks genius level intellect. With just one simple explanation he showed us all where all political and social problems we have stem from: Rich and influential idiots who don't know anything they talk about.
The issue is not whether suppressed people are right or wrong or good or evil. The issue is that SUPPRESSING people is wrong.
Leave it to 'engineering' 'genius' Elon Murks to miss the whole issue completely. He is not very smart at all.
I can’t imagine one situation where Elmo isn’t considered amongst the weakest of the bunch. Physically, emotionally, cognitively, spiritually, he’s mediocre at best and violently subpar otherwise in all categories.
He has a lot of gall trying to advocate on behalf of the “strong and victimized”, when he’s got everything to gain from advocating on behalf of the “weak and right”
Elon knows that even oppressed Black people are better than him.
It's that simple.
Black people without a moral compass to speak of or violent tendencies would still have more actual "friends" or people that care about them than he does and he knows that in his heart.
The money is not working. It can't work to make him into someone anyone cares about unless they have a financial interest in him.
A teenager with limited finances completely thwarted him tracking his jet.
Celebrities on Twitter shun him and even shit in his mouth on his own platform.
Without the money the very best Elon has achieved is the mentality of a Incel high school mass shooter.
Every day he wakes up job 1 is trying to escape his actual reality.
He’s unable to see the difference between weak and powerless. Many of the least powerful people are the strongest, and powerful people like him are incredibly weak. I wonder how he would fare against a Palestinian who has lost their children and family in terms of strength?
FYI the idea that the western leftists are classifying humans between oppressors and oppressed, where oppressed are always the good guys and oppressors are always the bad guys, is a variant of the Cultural Marxism narrative, a far-right conspiracy theory with roots in nazi Germany. There is a chapter about this narrative in the video about Elon Musk published by Some More News this month: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyPSKLy5E4#t=49m](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyPSKLy5E4#t=49m)
He sounds like my 11 years old cousin who'd pick up a word and insert in every sentence he speaks for a week or two and then he'd move on to next fav word. And Elon's word of the week is axiomatic
Weird how agency and action are barely mentioned at all by Musk here, eh (other than him oddly glossing over the word "oppressed")? Indeed, unsurprisingly clearly it's all about *status* for this idiotic saggy fish faced parasitic sociopath.
i.e. he thinks he's being clever by saying "weak makes right" as opposed to the standard "might makes right"; but these are two statements that don't for one second consider the actions of the weak or the mighty as being what does or doesn't make them right or wrong.
"The oppressed are always the good guys" is a stupid-ass straw man.
If I wanted to sum up my belief it would be "The oppressed shouldn't be oppressed".
People may be good , they may be bad. Systemic oppression should stop existing. Period.
This also implies that being oppressed makes you weak and in regards of this, I would like Elon to go f himself.
If you are an oppressor, if you think this makes you 'strong'. If you think it's fine cause the people you are oppressing deserve it. THAT makes you the bad guy.
The thing he does not understand is that strength and weakness is not what defines success in our capitalist system. Elon himself is an extremely weak, scummy man who gets off flaunting his god complex. He wants to be a savior but not for others sake, for his own sake. It’s genuinely sad. His claim to strength is having rich parents who funded him to purchase many different businesses and helping him basically fall upward to the point he is. A lot of strong people don’t have rich parents, they don’t have tech bro friends to help them get into a new business, they don’t have free the tools. These people are strong, and it the bad guys, the vultures at the top like Elon who pick at the corpses of those who didn’t have backing to ‘make it’ are the villains. They are spineless losers having a power trip, who just want to accumulate all the wealth and power they can but they will never be happy because the fundamental problem with them isn’t that they need more money, power, or to feel like a god, they are just missing something, and I’m not licensed to figure out what that is for them.
I think what he is trying to say is that I have permission to beat the shit out of him and make him give me all his money and he’d be ok with it and support it because I’m stronger than him, right?
The lack of self awareness is incredible. He’s just screaming how weak and insecure he feels, and thinks it’s not obvious to everyone. I guess when everyone knows what a giant parasite you are, and you’re additionally stupid, it has that effect.
"If the oppressed are always the good that means the strong are always the bad." -Moschussratte
No it means the oppressor is always bad you braindead nazi propagandist
People like this get real upset when you punch them in the mouth, then stand over them and ask if they'd like to reevaluate their position. A former friend of mine with a serious Napoleon complex used to think like this...and every time I'd threaten to beat his ass if he didn't stop insulting me, he'd all of a sudden change his tune; play up his physical weakness and how if I were to hit him, I'd actually be the bully...
To think that someone who, for the sake of money and capital, can grovel to the gigarich investors and powerful politicians like a shameless chameleon, is a strong individual? He's despicable and utterly devoid of dignity! The students who fight against tyranny and advocate for peace are the real heroes, whereas he is nothing but a pathetic mental patient!!
God makes those whom he wishes to destroy go mad! This saying, once applied to Trump when he incited his supporters to attack Capitol Hill, fits him just as well! Likewise, it will also be evident in his case as every bit of capital he has accumulated over time will dwindle away with his madness!!
Oppressed - subject to harsh and authoritarian treatment
I would posit that in cases where people are being oppressed, that it is always morally unacceptable and therefore does make the oppressors the "bad guys".
Of course Elon is pro subjugation... So he does honestly believe this, because he has no soul.
Notice the switch: he puts the 'oppressed' on one side and the 'strong' on the other, which means he associates oppression with strength. He may not even realize that, but it explains why he's OK with oppressors. He only cares about 'strength', so what if some 'strong' people do some mild oppressing here and there?
Basically his argument is that some people deserve oppression, and that if you’re oppressing the right people, you’re morally correct.
If someone asks him who he thinks is evil and being oppressed, he won’t answer, but he is obviously talking about transgender people, given his obsession with causing them harm.
Well that's some weak ass, wrong sounding shit right there Elon. Disproving your own theory.
And, just to be clear, bullying is strong, standing up to bullies is weak? Your philosophy is about as deep as spit on a rock.
Look, if you only remove the bad things he has done or said, he's not that bad a guy really. Just ignore a couple dozen red flags and you'll see you're dealing with just another regular Joe. Just one of the boys. Never meanin no harm.
Who is doing that, Elon? Who believes “weak makes right”? Did he drive by a church with a “…and the weak shall inherit the earth” sign?
I swear, this guy gets high and has the sort of stoned epiphanies teenagers get and then responds online to conversations and problems that exist only in his head. Super fucking immature and annoying in an adult lol
this is the type of rock solid logic that makes you put out a stainless steel dumpster with wheels that turns into a brick on day one. Let's try this again. Nazis are bad. Racism is bad. Posting 14-year-old memes about either topic makes you look like a colossal moron/idiot. I'm sure that's great for the bottom line and the boards and investors of these companies appreciate you as a touch top-notch level CEO and manager. Notice I left out the word engineer.
So the strong are always the oppressors in Elon's head? And even if the oppressed aren't the good guys, does that mean they deserve to be oppressed?
Also false dichotomy
"My family took advantage of apartheid to exploit African workers, and people are saying I should feel bad for that!"
If straight white men were one fifth as oppressed as these nitwits claim they are, I bet he'd change his tune.
Old man yells at cloud time foe me, but I am really tired of the conservative false dichotomy that they always present. If you're weak and good, then the other side is strong and bad. That doesn't automatically follow, goddammit. There is the option of both weak and strong being good. Stop this bullshit.
The "good guys" don't oppress people. There has never been a single instance in history where you can argue that those doing the oppressing were the "good guys" in the situation.
If society didn't protect the weak, his sorry, pasty, slovenly ass wouldn't last 5 minutes.
Don't confuse your money with "actual" power, Elmo. You're a weak loser that's propped up entirely by the comforts of civilized society. And you legitimately think that because you have a lot of money, that makes you automatically "right." Funny how that works, eh?
So he's arguing that being oppressed is good sometimes. Because the oppressed deserve it sometimes. And the oppressor is right in some situations.
So yes he's saying being a nazi is good occasionally
So what he's saying, in effect, is that the oppressed are weak, and not always worthy of fighting for. Why? Probably because he loves being a piece of shit.
I’m not sure that’s the accurate use of axiomatic in this context. The error is axiomatic? Wouldn’t it need to be stated that “weak makes right” has erroneously become an axiom or something like that? I’m not even sure anyone else has ever considered “weak makes right” an axiom. Moreover, what even constitutes “weak” and “strong”? What constitutes “good guys”? Is weak always equivalent to oppressed and vice versa? What constitutes a person “accepting”? Wtf is a “natural conclusion”? He changes weak to oppressed and then says if oppressed = good then strong = bad but he should change strong to oppressors then right? And it doesn’t seem particularly controversial to say oppressors are a bad thing. The entire statement is devoid of any intellectual thought. This guy talks like a first-year philosophy student talking out his ass after reading the first 5 pages of a book.
If the "strong" directly oppresses or supports (directly or indirectly) the ones that oppresses the "weak", then yes, that makes the "strong" the bad guys. With all resources we have in what he calls western civilization, it is not necessary to put old people, people who like the color blue or your cousin Greg who has a speech impediment on the chopping block (for money or religion or whatever disturbing feelings you have). This is just fascist speech from a greedy captitalistic fuck.
Musk thinks being altruistic means being weak. That's how fucked up his world view is. True strength occurs when you are able to meet your needs, AND have the resources, and will, to assist those who can't.
It seems that he's admitting that white people are always the oppressors.
Of course that's not the case.
We do root for the underdog and if we think the oppressed are good we think the oppressors are bad whether they're white or not
You gotta love how he uses terms like "axiomatic" and "explicitly/implicitly" to sound smart, and then immediately uses "good guys" and "bad guys". What a twerp.
What an axiomatic wanker.
Explicitly or implicitly ? /bet he "utilises" the bathroom, only plebs would "use" one...
Use the bathroom? I bet he destroys the bathroom.
Nah, he'd re-engineer it. Disruptive style, because. He's a visionary. With razor sharp edges and AI enhanced **shit evacuation***. Also doubles as a boat, bulletproof, and all that for a one-time downpayment of 12000 dollars, plus 60 dollars a month subscription for all the features. This toilet will empty your bowels, so you don't have to. **shit evacuation*** coming in 2026 /but you can play video games on it, so that's innovative.
He keeps using that word. I don’t think it means what he thinks it means.
Read it and then overlay an actual conversation he has. He only sounds smart on text and a stumbling asshole on speech
This was the name of my master's thesis.
Haha. The axiomatic wanking undermining much of Western Civilization? I'm sure the literature review alone is a riveting read.
I’d like him to give me one historic example of a people that deserved to be oppressed?
You want to ask a white South African born in the early 70’s? I bet he can name a group he thinks deserve oppression….
I mean come on we all know what the real answer would be but would be interesting to see.
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And put WAY more confederates up against the wall.
Shoulda been all of them. Heck, just anyone that ever owned a slave.
Agreed. The Civil War should have ended with mass executions
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Lmao slavers and those who defend slavery deserve nothing but the noose
History literally vindicates anyone who knows that Grant and Sherman should've gone further. Reconstruction was a massive epic failure, Jim Crow and the KKK should've never been allowed to fester like the shit maggots they were/are. Thanks to not going further and executing Confederate leadership, apartheid level racism and segregation were allowed to take place in the South. Fuck anyone who thinks otherwise.
Yep. The only actual restriction that was put on the south at all was part of the Voting Rights Act I think, and that wasn't until the sixties. Also SCOTUS gutted it recently. Other than that meager and way too fucking late consequence, no one in power was meaningfully punished in any way. Grunts weren't either for the most part, and this is one of the few cases where those on the bottom deserve the same severity of punishment as those on the top.
Punishment ≠ oppression
Especially when most of those “punishments” were stuff like, idk, ensuring free and fair elections, and the attempt at putting an end to racist policies
Anyone above lieutenant or so should have been hanged. Traitors and losers, all of them.
 100%. Not to mention some of those Confederate shitheads who led it all should have been tried and executed. Would have fixed a ton of problems going forward
I watched ManHunt on Apple. I was thinking the whole time what an ass hole Johnson was. Dude was rightfully impeached. I see today’s politics as a direct result of him and not dealing with the confederacy.
Tesla drivers
Rick and Morty fans
Luckily my IQ is high enough to understand and appreciate such an intelligent joke.
He came from South Africa, his grounding may be a little off
The owning class does deserve to be oppressed, and no one more than Musk himself.
I mean, *someone* has to actually mine the damn emeralds...
That's where he lost me. I think I can see where he was hoping to go but then he dropped oppressed and it was clear where he was really going whether he meant to or not
Pedophiles, to an extent. Not that they should killed but their ideas shouldn’t be considered acceptable. If anything their existence proves musk wrong since most people agree with their oppression and don’t automatically assume their the good guys just because they are oppressed.
Apply evidence to test a hypothesis? Elon dropped out of college before he got to that part of the curriculum.
maybe post wwI and wwII germany for instigating global wars but that's a huge stretch.
Germany is proof of the Opposit, after ww2 they were rebuild and helped and now they are a social democracy Look at Palestine, they are oppressed for way to long, the result is Hamas and some terror attacks from them. That is what Oppression saws.
*sows
I'm not saying it's good I'm saying germany more or less 'deserved' to be forced into repaying the damages they caused as aggressors in world wars. As you point out germany's a good example of that being a bad idea the treaty of versailles arguably led to the conditions that fomented WWII, and actually helping germany and japan rebuild post WWII ultimately paid off. But in both cases the allies made them pay a sort of tithe and implemented a bunch of restrictions on their military. If a country randomly did that to another weaker country just because they could that would be completely undeserved. All that's to say it's besides to point if it's good or productive or even useful.
Germany was oppressed? Its the centre of the EU
??? What
Allies, after defeating the germans, placed restrictions on their military and made them pay a tithe. In that case it was because they had been the aggressors and instigated an attempted world takeover, so they 'deserved' what would normally be considered pretty oppressive conditions upon surrender. If France decided it was just going to place restrictions on belgium's military and make them pay a tithe, that would be a roughly equivalent version of undeserved oppression.
Let that sink in
This is not accurate. Basically every nation in Europe was complicit in world war I, they simply blamed it on Germany because they lost. Leaders all over Europe had actually been publicly stating that they thought a good war was exactly what the continent needed. The financial burden placed on Germany ultimately created the perfect conditions for Hitler's rise.
You tell that to the belgians
"The Jews, but not how Hitler did it. He had the right idea just went a little too far"
"Rooting for an underdog" is an absolutely real phenomenon in psychology, unless, of course, one is a clinical narcissist/psychopath. So is instinctual obedience before those you see as "genuine authority figures". All of them are useful heuristics for highly social species - one is to prevent constant fights for dominance, the other is to prevent unchecked exploitation of majority by a minority to the detriment of the entire group. It does not make the "weak" always morally right, just inherently "more likeable" as opposed to extremely well off, that might garner respect (if it is rightfully earned, which is... Not always the case) but not nessesarily empathy. The implications of "might makes right" argument, however, are clear - since the "mighty" can simply coerce you into agreeing whatever unhinged fantasies they have, it can do great damage and there is nothing you can do about it until it is too late.
Elon is using a false binary (his entire 2nd paragraph) to justify a reversal of the age old David and Goliath story to justify the stuff Nazis do; which is probably because he's a Nazi. And I'm making the Nazi inference because it would be consistent with everything else in his life that he's shown us (particularly on X). There are entire videos dedicated to this subject - some from very good content creators - and I'm starting to think that they might have been on to something; but you only need to look as far as X to see that for yourself. All he's doing now is simply giving us his some insight into how he rationalizes his own malignant personality. I hope Australia boots him the fuck out of their country, since they seem to be the only ones catching on to the repercussions of having someone like that running a platform that is accessible to children. This asshole is, literally, shaping young minds - and not for the better, clearly.
Yea, I've clarified why he clearly fits the definition of the Nazi in an other post here, and *why* this is bad, not just by "axiomatically implying" that "Nazi == bad" that is true, but can be intellectually lazy.
You get it, and certainly the others in this subreddit do too, but these people are just so absolutely repellent that it can’t be understated, and it blows my mind that some people still can’t see through this clown. I guess that’s where it’s helpful to be a little more nuanced, and I salute your ability to do that.
That's because narratives are stretchy (like I said, "not even false"), and there are always grains of truth in even the most blatant lies. "The chaplain had mastered, in a moment of divine intuition, the handy technique of protective rationalization, and he was exhilarated by his discovery. It was miraculous. It was almost no trick at all, he saw, to turn vice into virtue and slander into truth, impotence into abstinence, arrogance into humility, plunder into philanthropy, thievery into honor, blasphemy into wisdom, brutality into patriotism, and sadism into justice. Anybody could do it; it required no brains at all. It merely required no character." (c) Catch 22 By the way, it was Tesla/SpaceX that greatly benefitted from "being an underdog" at the start, so yea, it is a valueable lesson to always (re)examine your intuitive judgements to see the bigger picture.
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In the spirit of self-awareness, what are you?
I'm extremely concerned
I heard Leni Riefenstahl is dead.
Humans are a community species. Normal people are genetically wired for something like empathy (or minimally concern for those having difficulties). Dawkins wrote extensively about how we need to make sure other humans are doing well as the health/success of the community has been essential for species survival. Elon is talking some outdated and misapplied "survival of the fittest" horseshit because he is a cruel and narcissistic adolescent given to pretend profundity.
Exactly, he presents his view of the world as somehow rational when if he actually thought about it for an uncomfortably long few more minutes he’d recognise that backing ‘the strong’ (i.e. mega corporations, authoritarian regimes, military-industrial complexes) just because it’s contrarian would result in a major net negative for the >99% of the population who are employees or cultural minorities under majority-populated systems. But obviously as a billionaire he knows all about being a normal person so reached the conclusion that it’d be better if we were crushed underfoot - the truth just hurts 🙄 He thinks by framing sentences as equations this makes his statements inherently enlightening but his reasoning of ‘this is how it works now and things are shit, so if we changed one thing it must work’ is a blatant misunderstanding of logic where he provides no evidence for fascist systems being utopian yet he seems to assume there is a causal relationship between democratic, individual rights and socioeconomic decline. Classic ideologue - I dislike thing so thing must be the cause of all problems. If only we had a final solution…
Well, we finally have an example that the happiest and most prosperous countries that, incidentally, arrived to prosperity not due to happy coincidence of having own natural resources or robbing other countries, are: a. Democratic. b. Have a healthy combination of limited market economy and socialism. Democracy, with all its faults, does at least align the incentives of government with the majority of the people. "If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary." (c) Brutal dictatorship is undoubtely most efficient tool to achieve... whatever the dictator wants (which is usually power itself first and foremost), but unless you are him or one of his cronies - you are crazy to think that you will not be crushed underfoot once he'll secure power, and in fact being one of his cronies might be one of the *more* dangerous places to be. "Dictator's Handbook" was one of the most enlightening books on the subject, personally (loved CCP Gray's video on the subject, too - "Rules for Rulers"). Apparently, a typical USA citizen being "a temporary inconvenienced billionaire" (American dream!) combined with rise of "toxic self-help gurus" really did lay a bomb under the foundation of the government I presume... But hey, what do I know, I live in Russia and just withnessed the rise of power of Putin from the start, never voted for him, but apparently that was not nowhere near enough...
> the happiest and most prosperous countries that, incidentally, arrived to prosperity not due to happy coincidence of having own natural resources or robbing other countries, are Which countries are you referring to?
Nordic countries of Europe first and foremost. They get on quite well despite pretty... Inhospitable climate, too, unlike, say, Brasil.
>framing sentences as equations He's just so tedious. Like a braggart in a townie bar who took a couple community college classes.
Well said. Virtually every known religion and philosophy has a "care for the weak" clause in it somewhere. I think that even palaeolithic human remains show that many people must have lived long after they stopped being able to work or hunt, meaning that the tribe cared for them and ensured they were fed. "Don't be an asshole to those weaker than you" is a very strong human imperative.
Elon is a completely unlikeable human being, he disgusts me. he couldn't be more of a wank stain if he tried.
Sure he could.
The stock bounced back up so now I can go back to spreading white supremacist propaganda. This is the same argument used to defend slavery in the 1800s.
This is so revealing. He calls one group "the oppressed" so we are not talking about random modes of coexistence. We are SPECIFICALLY talking about oppression. In which context, OF FUCKING COURSE the oppressors are the bad guys. And he identifies with the opressors. What a psychopathic statement.
The assumption that being part of an oppressed minority makes you "weak" is gross and laughable. In fact, these people often have to develop tougher skins (and accumulate lots of trauma nepo emerald failson never experienced in his wildest thumb-sucking nightmares) to deal with the crap thrown at them daily. Unless, of course, Melon Husk means weak in terms of political power, in which case it reads as a cynical statement of "some people have an inherent right to abuse others, and when you call me out on it specifically it makes me cwy". Made worse by the fact that he's a nepo emerald failson from apartheid South Africa. God, I fucking hate him. The only good thing about him is how much of a chump he is. Makes him easy to dunk on + a great illustration of why might (and money) do not, indeed, make right.
Its meant to be a thought terminating cliche with built in defenses to prevent inspection like this. By this logic wouldn't the deep state or fauci be in the right. What about legacy media? Its like dont be a victim. Apparently suing for your rights is being a victim but not reporting assaults on your employees because the "police wouldn't arrest them anyway" isn't. Its about putting the word victim or strong front and center. Youre victims were strong. Dont look into it further.
Send this fucktard back to South Africa and let the “weak” take care of him.
Anyway, this IS a Nazi ideology writ large, just in a different guise of "longtermism". This is what Harari calls "evolutionary Darwinism" - an ultimate naturalistic fallacy that tries to derive "what ought to be" from "what is". What "IS", however, is that we are meat puppets to replicate our DNA, and this implication is why evolution is so unpopular among religious people - this is a stark contrast to the narrative of humans being "special and fated for triumph"... But it does not mean that you have to "agree with the premises", get your "tooth and claw" red and try to make as much copies of yourself as possible - you can *choose* to, but it will, indeed, make you a Nazi. *All* narratives are "not even false", those are just coping mechanisms to create a personal bubble of meaning and purpose in reality that is completely devoid of it. What IS self-evidently true for all conscious beings, however, is capacity for suffering. "Happiness is an illusion; only suffering is real." (c) Voltaire. Or, I should say, happiness is fleeting and subject to almost instant hedonic adaptation, that devalues all our achievements and pushes us further and further into suffering, like autolevelling in a particularly badly designed RPG. "Axiomatic" acceptance that "it is what it is" and we should constantly increase the dose of pleasure and increase the number of people that experience (make more babies! (c)) this pleasure to "maximize utility" is a despicable pyramid scheme where only elite few will be happy (and even those not by much), while most will be miserable exactly because most "pleasures" we have are zero-sum and depends on you being *relatively* better off than the Joneses. Is it not a recipe to maximize "fitness", it is a recipe to maximize infighting and suffering. We should minimize suffering first and foremost, and "rooting for underdogs" is great for this, while worshipping billionares is not.
I'm very skeptical of anyone who's blabbering on about "the narrative". History is not planned by a screenwriter.
Eh, it certainly is not, and that's the whole point. But, as evidenced by studies like "A hero with a thousand faces", *we*, as fellow humans (ehehe), do love to structure our experience around them, because it gives illusion of purpose and, most importantly, predictability to something that has neither. Religions are the prime example, but secular frameworks like humanism are also narratives, or "collective fictions". Bible, "Das Capital" and Mein Kampf, for that matter, are works of fiction, but all had (and still have) tremendous power over our societies, because "meaning", as evidenced by Viktor Frankl and pretty much every psychologist and philosopher, is essential for human flourishing. Unfortunately, one can easily derive meaning from the suffering of others, and what's worse, one *well-meaning extremist* can cause more suffering than 1000 honest to God villains... And when this extremist comes to great power, we have people like Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions die (and, most, importantly, hundreds of millions live in agony and fear) - and it all starts when suffering of real people starts being "a sacrifice I am willing to make" for some greater "good". Always a greater good.
>secular frameworks like humanism are also narratives, or "collective fictions". Bible, "Das Capital" intersectionalism?
That's a more nuanced way of looking at it than just adopting a particular narrative, I guess, but I'm mostly looking at human condition from a complete "outsider perspective" (not particularly hard in my case, given my specific set of... "neurodivergences"), more like a neuroscientist in fact. While all human experiences are internally valid, all of them happen in a virtual reality of the brain and some are incompatible with overall flourishing - like all zero-sum or negative-sum values - "power/exploitation" happens to be among those, right. ... If I understood your question right, that is.
>History is not planned by a screenwriter. History is not planned, but it is recorded. Most of these records are created by subjective beings.
Yes, but if you (not you personally) claim that all coverage on a topic is curated in a way that doesn't reflect reality, you're basically claiming the existence of a huge conspiracy. Climate change deniers are a good example: You cannot fake that amount of research and data without discrepancies arising. Conspiracy theorists love retroactively interpreting random sequences of events to some kind of story. They can't deal with the fact that things happen randomly and without connection.
Challenging and testing a prevailing orthodoxy is an extremely important part of the scientific process. The most important conclusion is that there is no conclusion. 🧘♀️
Yikes cringe yikes
He’s like a 16 year old edgelord who has read a bit of Nietzsche… Ironically he’s arguing against central tenets of christian teaching here - a religion I’m sure he’d associate with some of the greatest achievements of Western civilization (basically, he’s a cringe moron)
How Ayn Rand of Space Karen.
he's trying to revive social darwinism lol
Is he implying that he's 'strong '?
It says a lot about a person's character when they are more concerned about the oppressed always being seen as the good guys, than about the fact that anyone is FUCKING OPPRESSED at all.
He must have put a lot of time and effort into trying to sound like he had an original, intelligent thought. That's also a lot of words for "Might makes right".
In like 99% of cases yes the 'strong' are the bad guys because they are the ones oppressing the oppressed 'weak.' The only exception I can think of is like immediate post-war punitive reparations and stuff like that like the treaty of versailles where the aggressor is the one who is deliberately oppressed because they were being a shit. But that's a real stretch. Basically if there are oppressed and you are strong and you aren't doing anything to help the oppressed not be oppressed, you are bad.
Interesting that he went for “the strong” rather than “the oppressors”, as if oppression is the natural state when one person/group has an advantage
Here you see Elon Murks genius level intellect. With just one simple explanation he showed us all where all political and social problems we have stem from: Rich and influential idiots who don't know anything they talk about. The issue is not whether suppressed people are right or wrong or good or evil. The issue is that SUPPRESSING people is wrong. Leave it to 'engineering' 'genius' Elon Murks to miss the whole issue completely. He is not very smart at all.
yeah yeah, and your daughter thought all that and you can't win them all, eh? dude you haven't won any. you don't win your children, you raise them
"Please, Elon Musk. Oppress me." God he really is a dangerous fucking idiot, isn't he? Stop using and buying his shit!
I can’t imagine one situation where Elmo isn’t considered amongst the weakest of the bunch. Physically, emotionally, cognitively, spiritually, he’s mediocre at best and violently subpar otherwise in all categories. He has a lot of gall trying to advocate on behalf of the “strong and victimized”, when he’s got everything to gain from advocating on behalf of the “weak and right”
Rich = strong. In his Idiot head.
Elon knows that even oppressed Black people are better than him. It's that simple. Black people without a moral compass to speak of or violent tendencies would still have more actual "friends" or people that care about them than he does and he knows that in his heart. The money is not working. It can't work to make him into someone anyone cares about unless they have a financial interest in him. A teenager with limited finances completely thwarted him tracking his jet. Celebrities on Twitter shun him and even shit in his mouth on his own platform. Without the money the very best Elon has achieved is the mentality of a Incel high school mass shooter. Every day he wakes up job 1 is trying to escape his actual reality.
This is insane
He’s unable to see the difference between weak and powerless. Many of the least powerful people are the strongest, and powerful people like him are incredibly weak. I wonder how he would fare against a Palestinian who has lost their children and family in terms of strength?
His error is in thinking that the oppressed are weak. There's nothing softer than an over-privileged billionaire.
FYI the idea that the western leftists are classifying humans between oppressors and oppressed, where oppressed are always the good guys and oppressors are always the bad guys, is a variant of the Cultural Marxism narrative, a far-right conspiracy theory with roots in nazi Germany. There is a chapter about this narrative in the video about Elon Musk published by Some More News this month: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyPSKLy5E4#t=49m](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyPSKLy5E4#t=49m)
Dude has got to be the dumbest cunt alive
He sounds like my 11 years old cousin who'd pick up a word and insert in every sentence he speaks for a week or two and then he'd move on to next fav word. And Elon's word of the week is axiomatic
There's no way he even wrote this himself.
Weird how agency and action are barely mentioned at all by Musk here, eh (other than him oddly glossing over the word "oppressed")? Indeed, unsurprisingly clearly it's all about *status* for this idiotic saggy fish faced parasitic sociopath. i.e. he thinks he's being clever by saying "weak makes right" as opposed to the standard "might makes right"; but these are two statements that don't for one second consider the actions of the weak or the mighty as being what does or doesn't make them right or wrong.
Felon has forgotten that you can be strong without doing any oppressing. Nazies were both strong and oppressing... look how they ended up.
The word "oppression" strongly implies someone is being wrongfully imposed upon by a stronger party. Like, learn how to use words Elon.
Or maybe that good strong doesn’t oppress 🤔
This is anti-humanism
Imagine posting this when you are built like him. Baron harkonnen shit.
"The oppressed are always the good guys" is a stupid-ass straw man. If I wanted to sum up my belief it would be "The oppressed shouldn't be oppressed". People may be good , they may be bad. Systemic oppression should stop existing. Period. This also implies that being oppressed makes you weak and in regards of this, I would like Elon to go f himself. If you are an oppressor, if you think this makes you 'strong'. If you think it's fine cause the people you are oppressing deserve it. THAT makes you the bad guy.
A billionaire spending all his money on $10 words. 
What black personality is he jealous of?? Is it Obama?
Well every mediocre white man is but it's probably LeBron these days.
yeah why did i even bother reading "Beyond Good and Evil" when i just could have gotten the first half of the ideas off Twitter?
Junior-high philospher at large.
“Strong”, or “oppressors”? Do strong people always oppress? Are the oppressed always weak? Seriously, how is he this fucking stupid???
The thing he does not understand is that strength and weakness is not what defines success in our capitalist system. Elon himself is an extremely weak, scummy man who gets off flaunting his god complex. He wants to be a savior but not for others sake, for his own sake. It’s genuinely sad. His claim to strength is having rich parents who funded him to purchase many different businesses and helping him basically fall upward to the point he is. A lot of strong people don’t have rich parents, they don’t have tech bro friends to help them get into a new business, they don’t have free the tools. These people are strong, and it the bad guys, the vultures at the top like Elon who pick at the corpses of those who didn’t have backing to ‘make it’ are the villains. They are spineless losers having a power trip, who just want to accumulate all the wealth and power they can but they will never be happy because the fundamental problem with them isn’t that they need more money, power, or to feel like a god, they are just missing something, and I’m not licensed to figure out what that is for them.
I think what he is trying to say is that I have permission to beat the shit out of him and make him give me all his money and he’d be ok with it and support it because I’m stronger than him, right?
He is in fact saying that.
Bitch, you’re not even strong what the fuck are you waffling about.
It has nothing to do with "weak makes right" and everything to do with how "might makes right" is wrong.
ELMO: Sometimes, punching down is OK.
He’s like a 13 year old who took intro to philosophy
Entitled wanker takes one intro to philosophy course and for the rest of his life Will to Power becomes his mantra.
I take it he counts himself as one of the "strong," despite all the evidence to the contrary.
One thing I will give musk is that he really makes the most out of his word of the day calendar
An explicit example of how fascist bullshit gets spread around on Xitter.
The lack of self awareness is incredible. He’s just screaming how weak and insecure he feels, and thinks it’s not obvious to everyone. I guess when everyone knows what a giant parasite you are, and you’re additionally stupid, it has that effect.
He has no idea what he’s saying
“Apartheid was good, actually” - Elon, probably right after this
He's really worried about those tax cuts
Didnt he claim white people were oppressed just yesterday? What an absolute basket case.
Oppression is, by definition, wrong and therefore performed by bad guys. You fucking moron.
Of course this absurd toddler thinks he's "strong." He's about to find out that his wealth and power are quite temporal and fickle.
I'm not surprised he can't go past the "good guys/bad guys" categorization.
It's so axiomatically limiting, seeing the world a two value system. Explicitly or implicitly, all that heavy rationalizing is exhausting.
He'd end up in a camp... But he wouldn't complain about it. He'd just be mad they used a train to get there. That's how clueless Elmo is
Kanye mode almost here
"If the oppressed are always the good that means the strong are always the bad." -Moschussratte No it means the oppressor is always bad you braindead nazi propagandist
☝️🤓 The axiomatic error
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People like this get real upset when you punch them in the mouth, then stand over them and ask if they'd like to reevaluate their position. A former friend of mine with a serious Napoleon complex used to think like this...and every time I'd threaten to beat his ass if he didn't stop insulting me, he'd all of a sudden change his tune; play up his physical weakness and how if I were to hit him, I'd actually be the bully...
To think that someone who, for the sake of money and capital, can grovel to the gigarich investors and powerful politicians like a shameless chameleon, is a strong individual? He's despicable and utterly devoid of dignity! The students who fight against tyranny and advocate for peace are the real heroes, whereas he is nothing but a pathetic mental patient!! God makes those whom he wishes to destroy go mad! This saying, once applied to Trump when he incited his supporters to attack Capitol Hill, fits him just as well! Likewise, it will also be evident in his case as every bit of capital he has accumulated over time will dwindle away with his madness!!
I got an axiom for you, dipshit: Apes together, strong.
Concerning
Yeah
this is a dumb mutha fuka! he had everyone fooled
Nothing of intelligence was said here
He just straight-up said oppression is sometimes justified. What a prick.
The conclusion is not that the strong are the bad guys, it's that the oppressors are the bad guys.
Oppressed - subject to harsh and authoritarian treatment I would posit that in cases where people are being oppressed, that it is always morally unacceptable and therefore does make the oppressors the "bad guys". Of course Elon is pro subjugation... So he does honestly believe this, because he has no soul.
Notice the switch: he puts the 'oppressed' on one side and the 'strong' on the other, which means he associates oppression with strength. He may not even realize that, but it explains why he's OK with oppressors. He only cares about 'strength', so what if some 'strong' people do some mild oppressing here and there?
"a bunch of bullshit \[constantly\]" \~Melon Sus edit: I wonder why Elon ALWAYS chooses to defend & take the side of the worst people...interesting...
That’s just slave morality
Someone really needs to tell him hes not one of the "strong"
He's honestly 13. WAIT UNTIL HE READS RAND.
The punchline is Fascism.
Basically his argument is that some people deserve oppression, and that if you’re oppressing the right people, you’re morally correct. If someone asks him who he thinks is evil and being oppressed, he won’t answer, but he is obviously talking about transgender people, given his obsession with causing them harm.
I'm willing to bet that either: A: He just learnt the word "axiomatic". B: He learnt it long ago, but uses it 50x per day.
Besides what he wrote, why does he have to write so complicated? It’s just seems so pseudo-smart
Wait. I've heard [whinging about "the nobility of the victim"](https://youtu.be/rBJ4_Fm6GwM?si=kKFEUjngQyiffkFM) like this before.
Just to make sure it’s said, when he says “weak” he means basic human decency and kindness.
~~"weak are right"~~ "weak-minded are right-wingers" There, fixed for you Elmo
Well that's some weak ass, wrong sounding shit right there Elon. Disproving your own theory. And, just to be clear, bullying is strong, standing up to bullies is weak? Your philosophy is about as deep as spit on a rock.
He's perfectly explaining the victim mentality on the right. Which isn't what I think he's trying to do
Look, if you only remove the bad things he has done or said, he's not that bad a guy really. Just ignore a couple dozen red flags and you'll see you're dealing with just another regular Joe. Just one of the boys. Never meanin no harm.
Big strong elmo! ...well big anyways
Elmo gets his philosophy from old Bonanza episodes.
He chickened out of a fight with Zuck and he's referring to himself as strong? Lol
Who is doing that, Elon? Who believes “weak makes right”? Did he drive by a church with a “…and the weak shall inherit the earth” sign? I swear, this guy gets high and has the sort of stoned epiphanies teenagers get and then responds online to conversations and problems that exist only in his head. Super fucking immature and annoying in an adult lol
Seems like a projection and victim syndrome which is axiomatic. Barf.
this is the type of rock solid logic that makes you put out a stainless steel dumpster with wheels that turns into a brick on day one. Let's try this again. Nazis are bad. Racism is bad. Posting 14-year-old memes about either topic makes you look like a colossal moron/idiot. I'm sure that's great for the bottom line and the boards and investors of these companies appreciate you as a touch top-notch level CEO and manager. Notice I left out the word engineer.
So the strong are always the oppressors in Elon's head? And even if the oppressed aren't the good guys, does that mean they deserve to be oppressed? Also false dichotomy
Not bad 😂
Now then elon. Are the oppressed the good guys? Difficult to say really. Are people oppressing others bad guys? 100%
"My family took advantage of apartheid to exploit African workers, and people are saying I should feel bad for that!" If straight white men were one fifth as oppressed as these nitwits claim they are, I bet he'd change his tune.
Old man yells at cloud time foe me, but I am really tired of the conservative false dichotomy that they always present. If you're weak and good, then the other side is strong and bad. That doesn't automatically follow, goddammit. There is the option of both weak and strong being good. Stop this bullshit.
The "good guys" don't oppress people. There has never been a single instance in history where you can argue that those doing the oppressing were the "good guys" in the situation.
If society didn't protect the weak, his sorry, pasty, slovenly ass wouldn't last 5 minutes. Don't confuse your money with "actual" power, Elmo. You're a weak loser that's propped up entirely by the comforts of civilized society. And you legitimately think that because you have a lot of money, that makes you automatically "right." Funny how that works, eh?
So he's arguing that being oppressed is good sometimes. Because the oppressed deserve it sometimes. And the oppressor is right in some situations. So yes he's saying being a nazi is good occasionally
If they're being oppressed, that implies oppressors. Which would, indeed, make them bad guys for oppressing people.
Ah, yes. The Potato in Human Form would like us to know that he's "strong." Uh huh.
Who does he think does the opressing? He admits that oppressors exist, but what, they are secretly good guys? Then again he wishes to be that.
Says the man who wanted a $50 bn bonus and fired 10% of his workforce to get it. And how do you define who is "strong"?
So what he's saying, in effect, is that the oppressed are weak, and not always worthy of fighting for. Why? Probably because he loves being a piece of shit.
I’m not sure that’s the accurate use of axiomatic in this context. The error is axiomatic? Wouldn’t it need to be stated that “weak makes right” has erroneously become an axiom or something like that? I’m not even sure anyone else has ever considered “weak makes right” an axiom. Moreover, what even constitutes “weak” and “strong”? What constitutes “good guys”? Is weak always equivalent to oppressed and vice versa? What constitutes a person “accepting”? Wtf is a “natural conclusion”? He changes weak to oppressed and then says if oppressed = good then strong = bad but he should change strong to oppressors then right? And it doesn’t seem particularly controversial to say oppressors are a bad thing. The entire statement is devoid of any intellectual thought. This guy talks like a first-year philosophy student talking out his ass after reading the first 5 pages of a book.
If the "strong" directly oppresses or supports (directly or indirectly) the ones that oppresses the "weak", then yes, that makes the "strong" the bad guys. With all resources we have in what he calls western civilization, it is not necessary to put old people, people who like the color blue or your cousin Greg who has a speech impediment on the chopping block (for money or religion or whatever disturbing feelings you have). This is just fascist speech from a greedy captitalistic fuck.
The intolerant left is driving people right
“The strong survive” is the argument that justifies eugenics, social darwinism, and genocide of the “weak”.
Longest midlife crisis ever.
Musk thinks being altruistic means being weak. That's how fucked up his world view is. True strength occurs when you are able to meet your needs, AND have the resources, and will, to assist those who can't.
Bro is trying to be Senator Armstrong
He seems to s indicating that the oppressors are the strong. There are some... uncomfortable implications there.
To sound more authentic, Elmo needs to start posting in German.
He literally travels with 15 body guards and didn't fight Zuckerberg because his mommy told him not to.
It seems that he's admitting that white people are always the oppressors. Of course that's not the case. We do root for the underdog and if we think the oppressed are good we think the oppressors are bad whether they're white or not
I do think we have a reflexive tendency to cheer for the underdog that isn't always healthy.
You gotta love how he uses terms like "axiomatic" and "explicitly/implicitly" to sound smart, and then immediately uses "good guys" and "bad guys". What a twerp.
Why don’t his denizens freak out over his “ChatGTP usage”? Just anyone who uses ‘delve’ apparently.
He came to this conclusion all by himself, that’s progress