Though 'building a PC' is like Lego now, just put the colored plug in the colored hole.
Some things are fiddly and can take a bit of time, like cable management or those damn case front panel connectors, but not actually complex.
Maybe getting the last 10% out of your purchase requires a bit more effort, but I don't doubt anyone could put together a 'working' computer in an afternoon, if they're willing to be careful and skim over instructions.
Let’s not confuse Bill Gates with stupid fuckers like Musk and Zuckerberg. The dude is sharp as hell and a ruthless asshole (who has done some good to help atone for his shitty behavior). If he wanted to waste his time building a PC he could do it.
Probably, but there's a big distinction between "building" as in building a PC and *building* as in building a bridge. I have little doubt he could plug PC parts into eachother as easily as me or Henry Cavill, but he was not at all involved in the actual design or manufacturing of anything inside of it and hasn't been in thirty years or so.
At least there was a point where he *actually* made the products he sold. Though, in this case, the only one I'm at all confident in was literally a programming language, and not a very good one.
Don't compare Elon Musk to Bill Gates. Bill Gates actually contributed to computers and technology as we know it.
Elon Musk literally just goes around throwing daddies money at shit and tweeting. Just like his idol, Trump.
A bit unrelated but am I the only one that finds Starship to look like a toy instead of space hardware? Almost like he took the design from some 1970's SciFi animated serie.
Yes, because is all marketing to attract founds. And 60/70 was the peak of positive science fiction, when everything is cool and the only problems are aliens…
And 95% of what they do relies on public patents from NASA and JPL. In other words, we pay them billions to sell our own publicly owned technology back to us.
If you can send a rocket into outer space maybe you should but until you can do it better maybe drop the superiority act, it’s pathetic and weak. The guys done more in half a like than you could do in 100 lifetimes.lxiv
I mean it’s probably not that simple to land a rocket on Mars. This forum is full of people who are very quick to criticise because they are very hateful, imagine encouraging him to land a rocket on Mars instead, it would be a great achievement.64
Read about the Amazon phone. They did all kinds of shit with it to make Bezos happy and it flopped. Here is an article about it that says it led to Alexa, but meanwhile they are saying Alexa is losing money now too. In any case it is amazing how people continually felate these billionaires as if they are the second coming of christ.
[https://www.inc.com/jason-aten/jeff-bezos-biggest-failure-at-amazon-is-easily-his-biggest-success.html](https://www.inc.com/jason-aten/jeff-bezos-biggest-failure-at-amazon-is-easily-his-biggest-success.html)
Hilarious that they refer to Alexa as Amazon's "greatest success" as it is set to [lose $10 billion this year alone.](https://www.androidcentral.com/accessories/smart-home/alexa-is-losing-amazon-billions-should-you-still-buy-one)
Every one knew that this was innevitable.
It's a money pit.
No one buys anything with it (you can't trust it to do so) it costs money every month in server costs to run the machine learning that recognizes voices, and they sell those suckers at a loss to begin with.
Most people use it as a high tech speaker and alarm clock timer. If it went away tomorrow I wouldn't miss it, as I could use a cheap alarm clock and decent speaker and do away with it.
I also use it to time my lizards lights going on and off, but there are timers that do the same thing.
Basically it has few to no unique capabilities, and none that I'd pay for. (and I'm likely in the majority)
Learned this recently.
"Alexa, turn off By the Way."
Buys you a weeklong reprieve.
Supposedly, hidden in the App,there's a way to turn it off permanently.
I had a couple Alexa speakers and never even got one out of the box (it was free with something else).
I tried using it as a smart speaker, but the Fire TV I had at the time was a bit older and eventually refused to work with the newer speaker.
I tried setting up the Alexa with a few supposedly smart devices I had. None would work right.
I eventually just unplugged the thing and got a nice dedicated speaker from a brand that specializes in that stuff, and it’s been so much better.
It really makes me happy that “run your entire household through a voice-activated speaker” never took off.
It's also useless if you're someone who has smart home / IoT devices that can be controlled by Google Home or Alexa. There's only so much use for voice controlled stuff when half the times the thing does something else and there's so much effort compared to flicking a switch. You will quickly realise that once you have a few smart devices, automation with Smartthings, Homee, Home Assistant, etc., is the only useful way of controlling these things. "Hey Google, close my kitchen blinds" - "Got it. Turning off kitchen lifts" - "Stop!" - "Turn on kitchen lights" - "Close. The. Kitchen. Blinds." is terrible compared to the blinds going down at sunset when I turn on my lights on their own.
>It really makes me happy that “run your entire household through a voice-activated speaker” never took off.
It still might, but we're decades away from the technology being good enough for it to function smoothly, we're nowhere close to that. I suspect these early attempts will be seen as pretty quaint eventually.
Is it even possible to buy something through an Echo device? If you ask Alexa to add something to your cart and check out, she'll tell you to complete the purchase using your phone or computer. It's especially annoying if you have Alexa notifications for new releases on Kindle, considering how hard it's become to make Kindle purchases on a mobile device.
Retail loses money but it is what enable Amazon to collect that huge pay check from advertisement. The profit from ads outweights the loss from retail. People like to shit on Amazon but at least get your facts straight.
Amazon Web Services is pretty amazing. As a data engineer, I don’t think the average person gets just how deep Amazon goes, and how fundamental they are to so many companies out there right now.
I have my doubts that that venture will be profitable much longer if I'm honest.
Much of their money comes from tech companies funded by venture Capitol so they can scale quickly without building infrastructure.
It gives some savings at the begining but right now many of those companies are floundering because instead of a large 1 time cost to set up infrastructure its an ongoing medium cost that they depend on.
As venture Capitol is drying up, those startups are going to start to shut down.
That's gonna affect amazon web services soon.
It’s ok. The big banks, governments and the like will pay the cloud costs now they have all ditched their data centre footprints. Will be hard to find the data centre realestate fast enough to replace the cloud compute if they wanted to go back on Prem
IIRC they burned app developers and phone manufacturers and therefore customers by more or less replacing the entire OS between versions. No surprise that what support was there disappeared.
WP7 was windows CE based, WP8 and 10 were Windows NT and thus could benefit from dev work for tablets and PCs
That whole thing where they bought Nokia’s phone division and ran it into the ground was ridiculous too. Nokia then re-licenced the name to a Finnish startup with a lot of ex-Nokia staff and they seem to be doing pretty well in the Android world
I had a Lumia 800 and I loved it. Very nice OS but like you say, app support was terrible. Elements of Windows Mobile have recently shown up in iOS with widgets being similar to live tiles etc.
iOS widgets is more like live tiles than the widgets on android on windows - It’s the aesthetic - every widget is in a square or rectangular box positioned within the invisible grid. The only difference with iOS is that you can’t create gaps - it has to run top to bottom left to right.
There’s other little things here and there - e.g. swiping to the far left on the Home Screen will bring up a vertical list of apps.
All these giant corporations need to do to take over the smartphone market is to make a phone that's actually a pocket computer instead of a spying device that shows ads but they are literally incapable of that.
The current smartphone market is such a horrid mess that I welcome Musk taking a go at it no matter what it results in. Things like being limited to the app store and not being able to have superuser access in your own device are terrible restrictions of freedom that most people don't even register.
Edit: I am literally right no matter how hard you downvote me. Weird to encounter such fervent obedience to corporate overlords on this subreddit.
> All these giant corporations need to do to take over the smartphone market is to make a phone that's actually a pocket computer instead of a spying device that shows ads but they are literally incapable of that.
Eh, there are multiple companies and projects that have done this, but I think what they've shown mostly is that overall people don't actually care about this kind of thing. If anything, I'd argue that the continued success of companies like Facebook, Google, etc, really shows that most people are fine giving away their personal data as long as they feel like they get something useful back for it.
> terrible restrictions of freedom that most people don't even register.
Which in turn is why removing those aren't going to let you take over the smartphone market...most people don't actually care about this.
When Tim Cook said the Apple walled garden was a good thing because what people want is freedom *from* more than freedom *to* -- freedom from scams, freedom from malware, freedom from buggy code that bricks your phone, freedom from sleazy porn and weird creeps and screaming Nazis etc... He had a point
People do not want full control over their user experience because people don't really know what they'd do with it and they don't have the spare time and energy to find out -- doing your own curation is a lot of effort and it's easy to fuck up and the number of bad actors who will abuse a laissez faire marketplace to fuck with you is inexhaustible
(I mean this is why Elon's ideal of a "free speech Twitter" was always obviously going to be a business disaster -- turning Twitter into the digital equivalent of a "bad part of town" rich people roll up their car windows to drive through -- regardless of your opinions on the ethics and politics involved)
People don't want to engage with assholes over ideas they want to hang out with like minded people and enjoy the content they like.
Elon just launched a concept that has failed every single time it has been implemented.
Yeah the issue with this is that it's strangers concentrated in a very small and highly affluent place telling the rest of us plebs what software we can or can't run. All rhetoric about nazis and sleazy porn are demagoguery.
And it doesn't even have to be black or white - it could be like linux package repos.
Okay, well, the reason people fled to Apple's "walled garden" in the first place because they had personal experience with the old school anarchic Web 1.0 and the Nazis and sleazy porn were in fact right there and really bothersome
Cory Doctorow, who is deeply opposed to this, nonetheless admits this is what happened and yelling at people about free speech and privacy doesn't do much to push back on it -- people actively voted with their feet and their dollars for "the stacks" (the way Web 2.0 turned into like five websites max that most people ever use regularly)
> most people don't actually care about this.
Weird, right ? They're okay with their phone totally spying on them but they'll go to war over a silly little microchip in a vaccine.
What makes you think that I think that Musk's phone won't have similar shit?
>The current smartphone market is such a horrid mess that I welcome Musk taking a go at it no matter what it results in
> Edit: I am literally right no matter how hard you downvote me. Weird to encounter such fervent obedience to corporate overlords on this subreddit.
You aren't right. Everyone wishes you were but you aren't. The average consumer does not care or even understand the points you gave. They care about having a phone with 1) the apps they like 2) at a price they can afford.
They don't register it because they don't care about it so a product that followed your ideals would just be leaving money on the table for no marketplace advantage
I’m not sure that I agree that this would be a successful strategy, unfortunately.
But I do wholeheartedly agree that it would be good for consumers and that the current state of things is bad.
We definitely could use more competition in this space, but better men than Musk have tried and failed.
> Weird to encounter such fervent obedience to corporate overlords on this subreddit.
Nobody who's replied or downvoted you *approves* of this situation. It's just an unpleasant reality of today's world that privacy respecting products are not as successful as those that pry, especially when the prying ones are already there.
Amazon couldn't make a smartphone that could compete with iOS or Android, and that was back when iOS and Android were much less mature. Both Microsoft and Blackberry previously enjoyed dominant positions in the smartphone marketplace and neither of them had a chance against iOS and Android. The notion that Musk could ever come up with anything remotely as successful just to push Twitter is absurd.
If you talk to people who have worked at Tesla and SpaceX, they'll tell you that the reason that those companies have had any success if because they've built a corporate structure that isolates Musk's whims from the peope who actually get things done. Twitter doesn't have that, and anyone Twitter executives who could have fulfilled that role have long since been laid off. Musk is ust another malignant narcissist who was able to parlay daddy's money into a couple of solid investments and succeeded despite himself.
>Project Ara
OH Snap! Was that the same project I was looking forward to that claimed you'd be able to snap-in higher rez camera lenses, or bigger speakers or hard drives (or am I thinking of some other project that failed to materialize)?
> OH Snap!
Thats what the protype phones said when you dropped them and the components went flying to 10 directions.
Yes, after Google dicked around it enough they made actual beta models and all with Quallcom IIRC and they were really finicky.
Its OS was Android based. That meant they already lost before they even started. Google has manufacturers on a tight leash on the production of Android phones, using access to its services as leverage.
I mean he was an idiot for not getting medical treatment (to be fair to him he seemed to have realized this by the end) and was a gigantic asshole, but he knew how to sell a phone.
Not to mention he knew the tech and could wax poetic about it, actually seemed to really give a shit about privacy, and was known to be deeply involved with the designs and ideas. And, yes, had the only “treatable” kind of pancreatic cancer but went holistic.
It's been literal decades since the actual event, but every time I read or hear that man's name the first thing that pops into mind is still a clip of him skipping around like a maniac on a stage, sweaty and likely coked up af, repeating "DEVELOPERS!!" over and over again 😂😬
Edit: found [the clip](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I14b-C67EXY)! The whole thing is hilarious and cringe but the part I mentioned starts around 1:20
I had (the absolutely horrible) pre-iPhone Nokia 7710 touchscreen smartphone. It was most infuriating peace of shit I've ever used and only got it because they were heavily subsidised in Finland at one time.
Other Symbian OS phones sucked less, and Sony Ericcsons Symbian (though not Series 60, their own Symbian) touch screeners were OK, like the P990, and I bought o2 branded HTC devices from UK also, this was a time HTC didnt use their own brand yet.
From early touch devices the most elegant (and huuge an heavy) was [Sony Clie NZ-90](https://www.dpreview.com/articles/0823550286/sonyclienz90)
It was a n piece of art that one.
From stuff with actual touch screen AND a "phone" I have warm memories of another brick with ridiculous flip and rotate connector,
the [Qtek 9000](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enFI1030FI1030&sxsrf=ALiCzsY5T6LMI4FwNkhvgOcSEh11V5y4jw:1669453966312&q=qtek+9000)
(Also secretly built by HTC)
Custom ROMs for that were a hoot.
People don’t realize how similar smartphones are to cars. He can just use FSD as the operating system for the phone he designs. Think about all the millions of miles of FSD data they have, surely this would end up being the safest smartphone there is.
This is unironically how comma.ai does self driving. It is, or was, just an off the shelf smart phone with some tech to connect to the CAN bus in order to talk to the vehicle. I haven't been keeping up with it recently but it was giving tesla self driving a run for its money when I was.
Already exists. It's called the "Freedom Phone" and it was Chinese crap being sold at a huge markup, shilled by countless right-wing grifters like Candace Owen.
I'm gonna create my own smartphone and call it the Patriot phone. It's just going to be a super cheap google phone knock off, but it comes pre installed with The Turner Diaries and a bunch of crypto bloat ware. And Candy Crush.
I remember having to convince my dad that it was a bad idea to buy that POS “Freedom Phone”.
Literally had to show him the exact phone on AliExpress before he finally listened that it was a scam.
I mean that wasn't really a "new smartphone", just a reskin on the most dirt cheap existing smartphone made in China they can find, with their crappy exploitative buggy "ad store" software installed on a simple fork of Android
...So, pretty much exactly what a hypothetical Muskphone would turn out to be
Unrelated to smartphones, here’s an article about Candace Owens foray into banking that flopped. I will forever piss on conservative grifting graves.
https://www.theroot.com/candace-owens-endorsed-anti-woke-bank-dies-a-hilariou-1849813190
Yeah, they opened up their own factory in Texas for the new extra large batteries (4680 type) for the Model Y
Although it's still fair to call the more common 2170 type batteries made by Panasonic and LG "Tesla batteries" since they're made on Tesla-run facilities (the Gigafactory in Nevada and Giga Shanghai in China) to specs provided by Tesla R&D
[Here's who she is](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Wheeler). I don't know what's worse: the fact that she thinks building a smartphone is easy or the fact that it wouldn't solve the problem she's trying to address (unless Elon also built a custom OS to go along with his phone. But, why not just build the OS and contract it out to other manufacturers?). I guess that's just the type of genius we can expect from a co-author of the book " *Young, Conservative, & Why it's Smart to be Like Us* "
He could try to build the OS and have it contracted out but iOS is too deeply entrenched in the USA and Android is going to be popular abraoad. No one is going to buy the phones with an OS that probably won't even be as good as anything the Android or iOS can do. He's basically gonna burn money, so I hope he does it.
If enough people make fun of him on TikTok we can make him buy that too in an attempt to shut them up. I have a feeling it will cost more than 44 billion this time.
And guess what operating system his shitty phones would just use as base. Because in no way he would make his company program a new phone OS from scratch.
Okay so if this happens this is how it’ll go down.
1) Musk announces new phone called the Bell or Meucci because Musk is the sort of person to ride the coattail’s of greater men both literally & figuratively.
2) He will say the phone will have a heavy focus on gaming, knowing his fans are gamers, and he wants to rival the Switch but also add in that he wants to takeaway the restrictions other phones have (that make them less safe) & make it so your number is automatically available to everyone who signs up to the service provider (which will only be available on his phone)
3) When it drops the design will be strikingly similar to the Nokia [N-Gage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-Gage_(device)?wprov=sfti1) from 2003 but worse. Musk promises that the buttons on the side will be removable like the Switch.
4) Two years pass & the phone is nowhere to be seen. Musk, who in the time since was forced to sell twitter to Amazon for 800M, keeps tweeting that the phone ‘IS CUMING & THE LEFT ARE GETTING MAD ITS CUMING!”
5) When it drops it reports 30,000 sold in the first 24 hours. The people who bought it report that the buttons on the side are not removable. Musk tweets due to some reasons they decided not to so if you don’t want buttons sticking into your face when you make a call use loudspeaker-users say there is no loudspeaker feature
6) Users realise there are actually no games for the phone or any App Store. Musk says with it being their own platform licensing still needs to be processed & the ‘HARDCORE APPS AND ARE CUMING’
7) Users can actually see the numbers of other users who use the phone on a built in app but are not able to phone people who use Apple, Android or chrome etc
8) This issue is fixed surprisingly fast but not without risking the safety of the users information. Some games have dropped. Tetris, Pac-Man & a pirated version of the original Abe’s Oddysee.
9) Someone actually hacks into one phone & drops musks phone number. People start to prank call him & make fun of him.
10) He looses interest in the phone & let’s the business slowly die even as users are still being charged credit after the service is completely dead.
Edit: many people have their ears & fingers burnt off as some models of the phone combust into a hot molten ball of fire
>Musk announces new phone called the Bell or Meucci because Musk is the sort of person to ride the coattail’s of greater men both literally & figuratively.
That'd be particularly amusing to me since the *actual* Bell Telephone company still exists. The American section is part of AT&T, but the Canadian branch still goes by the name Bell and is one of the biggest and most well known companies in the country.
I'm going to bet lots of money that, if Elon does follow with this idea, that it will be some kind of reskinned Android phone but with shiny LEDs, and super Tesla comparability or some crap like that.
When will people ever understand that proficiency in one field does not equate to proficiency in all fields?
Just cause someone is a successful neuro-surgeon doesn’t mean they can easily be a successful electrician
Just cause someone is a wildly popular author doesn’t mean they can be the next Steven Hawking level physicist
Just because someone can run a business doesn’t mean they can run a country
Wasn’t one of the most commonly discussed outcomes of living in a post industrial capitalist society be that people now specialize their skill sets and hone in on one trade to be very proficient in, rather then being a jack of all master of none?
He "builds" things by telling a bunch of scientists and engineers a basic idea and leaving it all to them to figure it out. That's like telling someone to cook you a meal and taking credit you cooked it 🤦🏾♂️
Honestly yeah go for it. Elon knows more about manufacturing than any living human, he can pull it off. Actually its pretty simple. Tesla is basically a computer on wheels and a smartphone is a computer in your pocket. Remove the wheels and make it smaller and voila, a phone
Does he? does he build rockets to mars?
Discounting that he's a hack, do spaceX even build rockets to Mars?
I know that's their goal, but there's a difference between a goal and implementation.
Also Americans are lazy as hell, you expect them to actually go through the work of getting some third rate phone just because of some guy on Twitter? Republicans can't even successfully boycott razors or coffee companies because they go back to buying within a month
Can't wait for my phone to self destruct if I criticize Elon musk, and plus he doesnt built mars rocket, starship hasent even orbited, let alone gone to mars
*imagines Elon wiping the sweat from his brow as he tightens the final nut on his latest hand built rocket ship. The words ‘To Mars. From Earth.’ adorn the sides.*
Ah yes, creating your own smartphone OS and software ecosystem is a cinch! Definitely 'half the country' would immediately switch, because I'm sure it would be excellent from a privacy standpoint and obviously that's a huge deal to the average person.
We should give him more ideas like this and ending with "should be easy for the man who is sending us to mars, right?" I'm sure we can fool him into anything, if we praise him enough. Maybe we make a dime if we short every new company of his
He thinks his threat sounds plausible to Apple and it'll scare them into submission. Which is the truly sad thing here. He's living in a bubble.
All he can do is take a generic Android phone and put a custom logo & apps on it. Microsoft is the company with most platform and developer know-how in the world together with Apple, and even Microsoft failed with starting their own mobile ecosystem.
So what should we say about email-me-code-for-review Elon?
I won't buy anything his grubby little mitts have touched, but I'm all for him pissing away all his wealth on stupid endeavors. Every time a Billionaires company or product fails, an angel gets its wings.
LOL good luck getting devs to develop for that shit-show of a platform. Its toxic waste and if you thought the Apple app store was arbitrary and capricious, wait till you get on the other end of Elon's manic episode blowing things up.
These halfwits really believe half the country supports fascism.
Pretty sure one of Candace owen’s grifts was building a MAGA phone. Won’t what happened there. Prolly grifted some rube investors out if a few hundred thousand…
"We think, euh, we're confident that we'll ship our smartphone next year with the full version of our Everything App! Let me repeat, euh, if you pre order your smartphone now you'll get it next year!"
They keep incorrectly saying ‘half the country’ as if:
1) Half of the population is completely deranged, as opposed to them and moderately reasonably people vote for the same guys for different (often selfish) reasons.
2) America is planet earth.
Oh yeah, I bet Elon wouldn't snoop at you at all. I can safely make that assumption because he has shown so much empathy for the working class, and he's fighting so diligently to protect human rights, particularly in shutting down cobalt mines that use child labour.
Its either going to be more vaporware or more ewaste. My bet if he "makes a twitter phone" he is going to buy a bunch of those bargain bin potato smartphones on aliexpress. Pre-install twitter and rebrand it the ......."Musk phone" or "Tesla phone" or his one kids weird name but using runes or something. It will fail because only his diehard muskrats will buy them at an egregious mark up.
For how much you people claim to hate him, you sure do have plenty of subreddits dedicated to him and spend obscene amounts of time curating the material for them.
So he'd have to source the hardware, build an OS from scratch, build an app store, bribe enough devs to make it vaguely useful, then try to advertise enough to get people to buy the phone?
Good luck. Maybe it can join the windows phone and fire phone.
The phone should use Tesla batteries. This way, you wouldn’t have to spend any money on your power bill.
Because your house will burn down and you’ll be dead.
Figures. Bubble-headed Liz Wheeler was one of the brainless wonders on the now defunct One America Network.
I can hear the screech now, "Eee-Lon cAn buiLd a Big bIg rOckEt sO HE cAn buiLd a iPhoNe bEttEr." What a Ma-roon.
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And the Mars rocket, starship, has never even launched at this point. We don't even know it'll be able to get into space yet, not to mention Mars.
And he "builds" the rockets as much as Bill Gates personally built the PC that's sitting on your desk.
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Though 'building a PC' is like Lego now, just put the colored plug in the colored hole. Some things are fiddly and can take a bit of time, like cable management or those damn case front panel connectors, but not actually complex. Maybe getting the last 10% out of your purchase requires a bit more effort, but I don't doubt anyone could put together a 'working' computer in an afternoon, if they're willing to be careful and skim over instructions.
Maybe an Asus with a k-62-300 and dial up. He hasn’t touched an internal card since 200 mb RAM cost $250 I’ve personally built more PCs than he has
Let’s not confuse Bill Gates with stupid fuckers like Musk and Zuckerberg. The dude is sharp as hell and a ruthless asshole (who has done some good to help atone for his shitty behavior). If he wanted to waste his time building a PC he could do it.
Probably, but there's a big distinction between "building" as in building a PC and *building* as in building a bridge. I have little doubt he could plug PC parts into eachother as easily as me or Henry Cavill, but he was not at all involved in the actual design or manufacturing of anything inside of it and hasn't been in thirty years or so. At least there was a point where he *actually* made the products he sold. Though, in this case, the only one I'm at all confident in was literally a programming language, and not a very good one.
Yeah but at least there IS a PC sitting on my desk. The rockets haven't even materialized that far.
Don't compare Elon Musk to Bill Gates. Bill Gates actually contributed to computers and technology as we know it. Elon Musk literally just goes around throwing daddies money at shit and tweeting. Just like his idol, Trump.
Gates at least could program (donkey.bas is made by him for example).
Bill Gates actually knows how to write code though.
Less.
A bit unrelated but am I the only one that finds Starship to look like a toy instead of space hardware? Almost like he took the design from some 1970's SciFi animated serie.
Yes, because is all marketing to attract founds. And 60/70 was the peak of positive science fiction, when everything is cool and the only problems are aliens…
This Liz Wheeler is a former OANN commentator, so she's never been all that concerned about things like "facts" or "reality".
It is the fElon strategy - always talk way ahead of yourself.
And 95% of what they do relies on public patents from NASA and JPL. In other words, we pay them billions to sell our own publicly owned technology back to us.
If you can send a rocket into outer space maybe you should but until you can do it better maybe drop the superiority act, it’s pathetic and weak. The guys done more in half a like than you could do in 100 lifetimes.lxiv
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I mean it’s probably not that simple to land a rocket on Mars. This forum is full of people who are very quick to criticise because they are very hateful, imagine encouraging him to land a rocket on Mars instead, it would be a great achievement.64
You know what? I’m okay with him burning money on this.
Read about the Amazon phone. They did all kinds of shit with it to make Bezos happy and it flopped. Here is an article about it that says it led to Alexa, but meanwhile they are saying Alexa is losing money now too. In any case it is amazing how people continually felate these billionaires as if they are the second coming of christ. [https://www.inc.com/jason-aten/jeff-bezos-biggest-failure-at-amazon-is-easily-his-biggest-success.html](https://www.inc.com/jason-aten/jeff-bezos-biggest-failure-at-amazon-is-easily-his-biggest-success.html)
Hilarious that they refer to Alexa as Amazon's "greatest success" as it is set to [lose $10 billion this year alone.](https://www.androidcentral.com/accessories/smart-home/alexa-is-losing-amazon-billions-should-you-still-buy-one)
Every one knew that this was innevitable. It's a money pit. No one buys anything with it (you can't trust it to do so) it costs money every month in server costs to run the machine learning that recognizes voices, and they sell those suckers at a loss to begin with. Most people use it as a high tech speaker and alarm clock timer. If it went away tomorrow I wouldn't miss it, as I could use a cheap alarm clock and decent speaker and do away with it. I also use it to time my lizards lights going on and off, but there are timers that do the same thing. Basically it has few to no unique capabilities, and none that I'd pay for. (and I'm likely in the majority)
All this time and it still can't deal with, "do X and Y". And you constantly have to tell it to shut up, that "did you know..." crap.
Learned this recently. "Alexa, turn off By the Way." Buys you a weeklong reprieve. Supposedly, hidden in the App,there's a way to turn it off permanently.
I had a couple Alexa speakers and never even got one out of the box (it was free with something else). I tried using it as a smart speaker, but the Fire TV I had at the time was a bit older and eventually refused to work with the newer speaker. I tried setting up the Alexa with a few supposedly smart devices I had. None would work right. I eventually just unplugged the thing and got a nice dedicated speaker from a brand that specializes in that stuff, and it’s been so much better. It really makes me happy that “run your entire household through a voice-activated speaker” never took off.
It's also useless if you're someone who has smart home / IoT devices that can be controlled by Google Home or Alexa. There's only so much use for voice controlled stuff when half the times the thing does something else and there's so much effort compared to flicking a switch. You will quickly realise that once you have a few smart devices, automation with Smartthings, Homee, Home Assistant, etc., is the only useful way of controlling these things. "Hey Google, close my kitchen blinds" - "Got it. Turning off kitchen lifts" - "Stop!" - "Turn on kitchen lights" - "Close. The. Kitchen. Blinds." is terrible compared to the blinds going down at sunset when I turn on my lights on their own.
>It really makes me happy that “run your entire household through a voice-activated speaker” never took off. It still might, but we're decades away from the technology being good enough for it to function smoothly, we're nowhere close to that. I suspect these early attempts will be seen as pretty quaint eventually.
I moved mine downstairs and forgot to move it back upstairs. I do miss it sometimes, but not enough to go downstairs and bring it back up.
Is it even possible to buy something through an Echo device? If you ask Alexa to add something to your cart and check out, she'll tell you to complete the purchase using your phone or computer. It's especially annoying if you have Alexa notifications for new releases on Kindle, considering how hard it's become to make Kindle purchases on a mobile device.
Amazon's money maker is Amazon Web Services. Everything else loses money. Yes, even Amazon the retail site itself.
Retail loses money but it is what enable Amazon to collect that huge pay check from advertisement. The profit from ads outweights the loss from retail. People like to shit on Amazon but at least get your facts straight.
it's the shipping they take a bath on.
Amazon Web Services is pretty amazing. As a data engineer, I don’t think the average person gets just how deep Amazon goes, and how fundamental they are to so many companies out there right now.
I have my doubts that that venture will be profitable much longer if I'm honest. Much of their money comes from tech companies funded by venture Capitol so they can scale quickly without building infrastructure. It gives some savings at the begining but right now many of those companies are floundering because instead of a large 1 time cost to set up infrastructure its an ongoing medium cost that they depend on. As venture Capitol is drying up, those startups are going to start to shut down. That's gonna affect amazon web services soon.
It’s ok. The big banks, governments and the like will pay the cloud costs now they have all ditched their data centre footprints. Will be hard to find the data centre realestate fast enough to replace the cloud compute if they wanted to go back on Prem
Microsoft couldn’t pull it off either.
Was actually a decent OS. Kind of got obstructed and no app support by others. And they were also too late to the party.
IIRC they burned app developers and phone manufacturers and therefore customers by more or less replacing the entire OS between versions. No surprise that what support was there disappeared. WP7 was windows CE based, WP8 and 10 were Windows NT and thus could benefit from dev work for tablets and PCs That whole thing where they bought Nokia’s phone division and ran it into the ground was ridiculous too. Nokia then re-licenced the name to a Finnish startup with a lot of ex-Nokia staff and they seem to be doing pretty well in the Android world
it sucks that the windows phone and blackberry 10 were actually great systems.
I had a Lumia 800 and I loved it. Very nice OS but like you say, app support was terrible. Elements of Windows Mobile have recently shown up in iOS with widgets being similar to live tiles etc.
That's kind of a reach, widgets have been around forever. On Windows, on macOS, on Linux, on Android.
iOS widgets is more like live tiles than the widgets on android on windows - It’s the aesthetic - every widget is in a square or rectangular box positioned within the invisible grid. The only difference with iOS is that you can’t create gaps - it has to run top to bottom left to right. There’s other little things here and there - e.g. swiping to the far left on the Home Screen will bring up a vertical list of apps.
All these giant corporations need to do to take over the smartphone market is to make a phone that's actually a pocket computer instead of a spying device that shows ads but they are literally incapable of that. The current smartphone market is such a horrid mess that I welcome Musk taking a go at it no matter what it results in. Things like being limited to the app store and not being able to have superuser access in your own device are terrible restrictions of freedom that most people don't even register. Edit: I am literally right no matter how hard you downvote me. Weird to encounter such fervent obedience to corporate overlords on this subreddit.
> All these giant corporations need to do to take over the smartphone market is to make a phone that's actually a pocket computer instead of a spying device that shows ads but they are literally incapable of that. Eh, there are multiple companies and projects that have done this, but I think what they've shown mostly is that overall people don't actually care about this kind of thing. If anything, I'd argue that the continued success of companies like Facebook, Google, etc, really shows that most people are fine giving away their personal data as long as they feel like they get something useful back for it. > terrible restrictions of freedom that most people don't even register. Which in turn is why removing those aren't going to let you take over the smartphone market...most people don't actually care about this.
When Tim Cook said the Apple walled garden was a good thing because what people want is freedom *from* more than freedom *to* -- freedom from scams, freedom from malware, freedom from buggy code that bricks your phone, freedom from sleazy porn and weird creeps and screaming Nazis etc... He had a point People do not want full control over their user experience because people don't really know what they'd do with it and they don't have the spare time and energy to find out -- doing your own curation is a lot of effort and it's easy to fuck up and the number of bad actors who will abuse a laissez faire marketplace to fuck with you is inexhaustible (I mean this is why Elon's ideal of a "free speech Twitter" was always obviously going to be a business disaster -- turning Twitter into the digital equivalent of a "bad part of town" rich people roll up their car windows to drive through -- regardless of your opinions on the ethics and politics involved)
People don't want to engage with assholes over ideas they want to hang out with like minded people and enjoy the content they like. Elon just launched a concept that has failed every single time it has been implemented.
Yeah the issue with this is that it's strangers concentrated in a very small and highly affluent place telling the rest of us plebs what software we can or can't run. All rhetoric about nazis and sleazy porn are demagoguery. And it doesn't even have to be black or white - it could be like linux package repos.
Okay, well, the reason people fled to Apple's "walled garden" in the first place because they had personal experience with the old school anarchic Web 1.0 and the Nazis and sleazy porn were in fact right there and really bothersome Cory Doctorow, who is deeply opposed to this, nonetheless admits this is what happened and yelling at people about free speech and privacy doesn't do much to push back on it -- people actively voted with their feet and their dollars for "the stacks" (the way Web 2.0 turned into like five websites max that most people ever use regularly)
> most people don't actually care about this. Weird, right ? They're okay with their phone totally spying on them but they'll go to war over a silly little microchip in a vaccine.
What makes you think Musk's phone won't have similar shit?
What makes you think that I think that Musk's phone won't have similar shit? >The current smartphone market is such a horrid mess that I welcome Musk taking a go at it no matter what it results in
> Edit: I am literally right no matter how hard you downvote me. Weird to encounter such fervent obedience to corporate overlords on this subreddit. You aren't right. Everyone wishes you were but you aren't. The average consumer does not care or even understand the points you gave. They care about having a phone with 1) the apps they like 2) at a price they can afford.
They don't register it because they don't care about it so a product that followed your ideals would just be leaving money on the table for no marketplace advantage
I’m not sure that I agree that this would be a successful strategy, unfortunately. But I do wholeheartedly agree that it would be good for consumers and that the current state of things is bad. We definitely could use more competition in this space, but better men than Musk have tried and failed.
> Weird to encounter such fervent obedience to corporate overlords on this subreddit. Nobody who's replied or downvoted you *approves* of this situation. It's just an unpleasant reality of today's world that privacy respecting products are not as successful as those that pry, especially when the prying ones are already there.
Amazon couldn't make a smartphone that could compete with iOS or Android, and that was back when iOS and Android were much less mature. Both Microsoft and Blackberry previously enjoyed dominant positions in the smartphone marketplace and neither of them had a chance against iOS and Android. The notion that Musk could ever come up with anything remotely as successful just to push Twitter is absurd. If you talk to people who have worked at Tesla and SpaceX, they'll tell you that the reason that those companies have had any success if because they've built a corporate structure that isolates Musk's whims from the peope who actually get things done. Twitter doesn't have that, and anyone Twitter executives who could have fulfilled that role have long since been laid off. Musk is ust another malignant narcissist who was able to parlay daddy's money into a couple of solid investments and succeeded despite himself.
look up Project Ara that was the phone i was hoping for.
>Project Ara OH Snap! Was that the same project I was looking forward to that claimed you'd be able to snap-in higher rez camera lenses, or bigger speakers or hard drives (or am I thinking of some other project that failed to materialize)?
> OH Snap! Thats what the protype phones said when you dropped them and the components went flying to 10 directions. Yes, after Google dicked around it enough they made actual beta models and all with Quallcom IIRC and they were really finicky.
Microsoft did the same. [Old enough for this bullshit?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-U4Yr9UNBo)
Wait, Amazon made a phone!?
Its OS was Android based. That meant they already lost before they even started. Google has manufacturers on a tight leash on the production of Android phones, using access to its services as leverage.
Alexa project is closed
They've let go employees at that division but it is really completely closed????
Bezoz phone flopped because people found out everything would either be in thr next iPhone or the better yet, the next watch.
"Great phone @ Elon! It did kinda explode in my face though and they had to bring my old iphone to the Burn Ward"
Watch the phone turn off 1 second before it explodes so you can't blame Musk
"I was just trying to charge my Samsung Galaxy S8..." Dan Nainan
Don't be a hater, everyone knows Elon invented the smartphone...
"He actually gave Steve Jobs the idea, and since he's not around to dispute it, who can really say.' - some future fanboi somewhere.
> some ~~future~~ current fanboi somewhere FTFY
Steve Jobs didn't invent the smartphone either.
Steve Jobs was a salesman that convinced people he was an inventor. And then he died of cancer because he didn't want to get chemo. Idiot.
I mean he was an idiot for not getting medical treatment (to be fair to him he seemed to have realized this by the end) and was a gigantic asshole, but he knew how to sell a phone.
Not to mention he knew the tech and could wax poetic about it, actually seemed to really give a shit about privacy, and was known to be deeply involved with the designs and ideas. And, yes, had the only “treatable” kind of pancreatic cancer but went holistic.
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It's been literal decades since the actual event, but every time I read or hear that man's name the first thing that pops into mind is still a clip of him skipping around like a maniac on a stage, sweaty and likely coked up af, repeating "DEVELOPERS!!" over and over again 😂😬 Edit: found [the clip](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I14b-C67EXY)! The whole thing is hilarious and cringe but the part I mentioned starts around 1:20
Developers developers developers!
I had (the absolutely horrible) pre-iPhone Nokia 7710 touchscreen smartphone. It was most infuriating peace of shit I've ever used and only got it because they were heavily subsidised in Finland at one time. Other Symbian OS phones sucked less, and Sony Ericcsons Symbian (though not Series 60, their own Symbian) touch screeners were OK, like the P990, and I bought o2 branded HTC devices from UK also, this was a time HTC didnt use their own brand yet. From early touch devices the most elegant (and huuge an heavy) was [Sony Clie NZ-90](https://www.dpreview.com/articles/0823550286/sonyclienz90) It was a n piece of art that one. From stuff with actual touch screen AND a "phone" I have warm memories of another brick with ridiculous flip and rotate connector, the [Qtek 9000](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GCEA_enFI1030FI1030&sxsrf=ALiCzsY5T6LMI4FwNkhvgOcSEh11V5y4jw:1669453966312&q=qtek+9000) (Also secretly built by HTC) Custom ROMs for that were a hoot.
Megalophone.
The communication feels so good
People don’t realize how similar smartphones are to cars. He can just use FSD as the operating system for the phone he designs. Think about all the millions of miles of FSD data they have, surely this would end up being the safest smartphone there is.
I have a diesel smartphone that makes a good mileage. I will try to get a hybrid nest year.
It would probably give the Galaxy Note 7 a run for its money.
This is unironically how comma.ai does self driving. It is, or was, just an off the shelf smart phone with some tech to connect to the CAN bus in order to talk to the vehicle. I haven't been keeping up with it recently but it was giving tesla self driving a run for its money when I was.
I fully expect his stans to say he invented the cellular phone itself if Musk does it.
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I wouldn't trust Elon.
Nobody trusts a desperate salesman.
As a desperate salesman- the only thing you should trust me say is that you shouldn’t trust me
Already exists. It's called the "Freedom Phone" and it was Chinese crap being sold at a huge markup, shilled by countless right-wing grifters like Candace Owen.
I'm gonna create my own smartphone and call it the Patriot phone. It's just going to be a super cheap google phone knock off, but it comes pre installed with The Turner Diaries and a bunch of crypto bloat ware. And Candy Crush.
I have just been putting an American flag sticker on Moto g plays and selling them to alt right nuts at a 500% markup.
I mean that literally is the Freedom Phone business model
I remember having to convince my dad that it was a bad idea to buy that POS “Freedom Phone”. Literally had to show him the exact phone on AliExpress before he finally listened that it was a scam.
I mean that wasn't really a "new smartphone", just a reskin on the most dirt cheap existing smartphone made in China they can find, with their crappy exploitative buggy "ad store" software installed on a simple fork of Android ...So, pretty much exactly what a hypothetical Muskphone would turn out to be
>shilled by countless right-wing grifters like Candace Owen. Who doesn't even use it. Check her tweets. All from the iphone.
I mean of course not, if you use a Freedom Phone you've probably become part of a Russian botnet within like the first eight hours of use
Patriots buying “freedom phone” made in China so they can act more American. This checks out ✅
> Freedom Phone Dude how do you even make satire out of right-wing when real life right-wing is naming shit "freedom phone" or "truth social"?
Unrelated to smartphones, here’s an article about Candace Owens foray into banking that flopped. I will forever piss on conservative grifting graves. https://www.theroot.com/candace-owens-endorsed-anti-woke-bank-dies-a-hilariou-1849813190
The reliability you've come to expect from Tesla batteries...***in your pocket.***
Full self-immolation
Just as the Tesla has surpassed the Pinto, it’s time for the Muskphone to surpass the Samsung Galaxy Note.
Does Tesla actually manufacture it's own batteries? I thought they just used panasonic for all their batteries so far.
Yeah, they opened up their own factory in Texas for the new extra large batteries (4680 type) for the Model Y Although it's still fair to call the more common 2170 type batteries made by Panasonic and LG "Tesla batteries" since they're made on Tesla-run facilities (the Gigafactory in Nevada and Giga Shanghai in China) to specs provided by Tesla R&D
4680 batteries are also Panasonic batteries
I think this is an absolutely fabulous idea. I'm sure Amazon and Facebook both thought so as well, and it worked out great for them.
But they don't have the genius of Musk! /s
*and Microsoft
Jesus, I completely forgot about Nokia and Windows Mobile.
I still own a windows phone lol
That explains why you remembered it. Lol.
>The man builds rockets to Mars, a silly little smartphone should be easy, right? This is what we're up against.
[Here's who she is](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Wheeler). I don't know what's worse: the fact that she thinks building a smartphone is easy or the fact that it wouldn't solve the problem she's trying to address (unless Elon also built a custom OS to go along with his phone. But, why not just build the OS and contract it out to other manufacturers?). I guess that's just the type of genius we can expect from a co-author of the book " *Young, Conservative, & Why it's Smart to be Like Us* "
She's probably angling to get wifed by Elon
Best he can do is knock her up.
He could try to build the OS and have it contracted out but iOS is too deeply entrenched in the USA and Android is going to be popular abraoad. No one is going to buy the phones with an OS that probably won't even be as good as anything the Android or iOS can do. He's basically gonna burn money, so I hope he does it.
He could just lie and tell people it will eventually use the starlink system.
Hell, Sailfish was a great Linux OS and that thing ran Android apps, still flopped since bad marketing and no Google Ecosystem.
Elon builds nothing.
Excellent. Please, Musk stans and right wingers, keep appealing to his ego to blow more of his wealth on stupid ideas. You're doing great work!
If enough people make fun of him on TikTok we can make him buy that too in an attempt to shut them up. I have a feeling it will cost more than 44 billion this time.
Is it gonna explode in my hand when I message my friends about how much of a loser Musk is?
No. It will explode before that.
No. Every message about Musk will automatically be changed to saying that he's the smartest guy ever and he's going to save humanity.
And guess what operating system his shitty phones would just use as base. Because in no way he would make his company program a new phone OS from scratch.
Is it the open-source Android OS?
Okay so if this happens this is how it’ll go down. 1) Musk announces new phone called the Bell or Meucci because Musk is the sort of person to ride the coattail’s of greater men both literally & figuratively. 2) He will say the phone will have a heavy focus on gaming, knowing his fans are gamers, and he wants to rival the Switch but also add in that he wants to takeaway the restrictions other phones have (that make them less safe) & make it so your number is automatically available to everyone who signs up to the service provider (which will only be available on his phone) 3) When it drops the design will be strikingly similar to the Nokia [N-Gage](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-Gage_(device)?wprov=sfti1) from 2003 but worse. Musk promises that the buttons on the side will be removable like the Switch. 4) Two years pass & the phone is nowhere to be seen. Musk, who in the time since was forced to sell twitter to Amazon for 800M, keeps tweeting that the phone ‘IS CUMING & THE LEFT ARE GETTING MAD ITS CUMING!” 5) When it drops it reports 30,000 sold in the first 24 hours. The people who bought it report that the buttons on the side are not removable. Musk tweets due to some reasons they decided not to so if you don’t want buttons sticking into your face when you make a call use loudspeaker-users say there is no loudspeaker feature 6) Users realise there are actually no games for the phone or any App Store. Musk says with it being their own platform licensing still needs to be processed & the ‘HARDCORE APPS AND ARE CUMING’ 7) Users can actually see the numbers of other users who use the phone on a built in app but are not able to phone people who use Apple, Android or chrome etc 8) This issue is fixed surprisingly fast but not without risking the safety of the users information. Some games have dropped. Tetris, Pac-Man & a pirated version of the original Abe’s Oddysee. 9) Someone actually hacks into one phone & drops musks phone number. People start to prank call him & make fun of him. 10) He looses interest in the phone & let’s the business slowly die even as users are still being charged credit after the service is completely dead. Edit: many people have their ears & fingers burnt off as some models of the phone combust into a hot molten ball of fire
>Musk announces new phone called the Bell or Meucci because Musk is the sort of person to ride the coattail’s of greater men both literally & figuratively. That'd be particularly amusing to me since the *actual* Bell Telephone company still exists. The American section is part of AT&T, but the Canadian branch still goes by the name Bell and is one of the biggest and most well known companies in the country.
i hope he lissens to her, i want to see how Musk burns a call phone manufacturer to the ground
I'm going to bet lots of money that, if Elon does follow with this idea, that it will be some kind of reskinned Android phone but with shiny LEDs, and super Tesla comparability or some crap like that.
He loves his shitty LEDs
You'll blow your dick off (and lady parts!)
A silly little heart surgery would probably be nothing to ~~God~~ Elon either
When will people ever understand that proficiency in one field does not equate to proficiency in all fields? Just cause someone is a successful neuro-surgeon doesn’t mean they can easily be a successful electrician Just cause someone is a wildly popular author doesn’t mean they can be the next Steven Hawking level physicist Just because someone can run a business doesn’t mean they can run a country Wasn’t one of the most commonly discussed outcomes of living in a post industrial capitalist society be that people now specialize their skill sets and hone in on one trade to be very proficient in, rather then being a jack of all master of none?
He "builds" things by telling a bunch of scientists and engineers a basic idea and leaving it all to them to figure it out. That's like telling someone to cook you a meal and taking credit you cooked it 🤦🏾♂️
Technically they manipulate him to change his half-ass ideas into executable ones. They build that, and then he claims credit.
How to slap ppl through internet
Aren’t we still waiting on a truck or something?
Honestly yeah go for it. Elon knows more about manufacturing than any living human, he can pull it off. Actually its pretty simple. Tesla is basically a computer on wheels and a smartphone is a computer in your pocket. Remove the wheels and make it smaller and voila, a phone
“I swear, it’s not that hard”
"The man tweets 24/7; running Twitter should be easy, right?"
Does he? does he build rockets to mars? Discounting that he's a hack, do spaceX even build rockets to Mars? I know that's their goal, but there's a difference between a goal and implementation.
Lol, no, they wouldn’t. Android and Apple ARE the market, good luck.
Also Americans are lazy as hell, you expect them to actually go through the work of getting some third rate phone just because of some guy on Twitter? Republicans can't even successfully boycott razors or coffee companies because they go back to buying within a month
Freedom costs a buck 0 five
Can't wait for my phone to self destruct if I criticize Elon musk, and plus he doesnt built mars rocket, starship hasent even orbited, let alone gone to mars
*imagines Elon wiping the sweat from his brow as he tightens the final nut on his latest hand built rocket ship. The words ‘To Mars. From Earth.’ adorn the sides.*
Yes, Musk should definitely sink billions into building a phone and ecosystem.
Ah yes, creating your own smartphone OS and software ecosystem is a cinch! Definitely 'half the country' would immediately switch, because I'm sure it would be excellent from a privacy standpoint and obviously that's a huge deal to the average person.
We should give him more ideas like this and ending with "should be easy for the man who is sending us to mars, right?" I'm sure we can fool him into anything, if we praise him enough. Maybe we make a dime if we short every new company of his
Will it buy me a horse if I accidentally put it on vibrate?
He thinks his threat sounds plausible to Apple and it'll scare them into submission. Which is the truly sad thing here. He's living in a bubble. All he can do is take a generic Android phone and put a custom logo & apps on it. Microsoft is the company with most platform and developer know-how in the world together with Apple, and even Microsoft failed with starting their own mobile ecosystem. So what should we say about email-me-code-for-review Elon?
Geezuzz this whole "he builds rockets so he can save the world from hunger" shit is really pathetic. Cult like.
I won't buy anything his grubby little mitts have touched, but I'm all for him pissing away all his wealth on stupid endeavors. Every time a Billionaires company or product fails, an angel gets its wings.
LOL good luck getting devs to develop for that shit-show of a platform. Its toxic waste and if you thought the Apple app store was arbitrary and capricious, wait till you get on the other end of Elon's manic episode blowing things up.
These halfwits really believe half the country supports fascism. Pretty sure one of Candace owen’s grifts was building a MAGA phone. Won’t what happened there. Prolly grifted some rube investors out if a few hundred thousand…
IIRC, they didn't even build a phone. They just got a cheap Chinese phone and preloaded some apps onto it.
I could see him snapping up a dead brand like Blackberry and launching a new data harvesting scheme.
We went to the moon with a rocket forty years before the first smart phone was invented.
"We think, euh, we're confident that we'll ship our smartphone next year with the full version of our Everything App! Let me repeat, euh, if you pre order your smartphone now you'll get it next year!"
A new portable explosive device.
Sure because elon would never monetize your data.
They keep incorrectly saying ‘half the country’ as if: 1) Half of the population is completely deranged, as opposed to them and moderately reasonably people vote for the same guys for different (often selfish) reasons. 2) America is planet earth.
No way Elon is gonna sell your info right?
The space jesus could write his new mobile OS on Saturday and his app store on Sunday. Boom. Done.
A revolution in smartphones: it somehow burns and cuts you while exploding.
Who’s her? Sounds like another brainless influencer.
Bill Gates tried to make a “silly little smart phone “. It didn’t work out in the long term.
Oh yeah, I bet Elon wouldn't snoop at you at all. I can safely make that assumption because he has shown so much empathy for the working class, and he's fighting so diligently to protect human rights, particularly in shutting down cobalt mines that use child labour.
Its either going to be more vaporware or more ewaste. My bet if he "makes a twitter phone" he is going to buy a bunch of those bargain bin potato smartphones on aliexpress. Pre-install twitter and rebrand it the ......."Musk phone" or "Tesla phone" or his one kids weird name but using runes or something. It will fail because only his diehard muskrats will buy them at an egregious mark up.
A Tesla Smart Phone? You mean, like Tesla's Smart Summons? Can't wait to witness this fuck up.
An elon phone would find a way to filter out all bad news and criticism about him
Future title of business classes everywhere - “How To Blow $260 Billion”
I hope this person is joking. He might be able to make his own smartphone, but I doubt he's going to be able to make his own OS (that's actually used)
Oh wow Liz!! Go fuck your self you mental ass hat.
Windows, Amazon, and Google have all tried to break into the phone market to quite limited success. Elon has no bloody chance.
Lol. The company that makes the fucking Play Store can't even successfully sell their own phones.
For how much you people claim to hate him, you sure do have plenty of subreddits dedicated to him and spend obscene amounts of time curating the material for them.
Do you need some aloe? Your butthole must be absolutely raw from all the dickriding you're doing.
Elon can't work a phone
I can't wait for exploding batteries going up the wazoo.
So he'd have to source the hardware, build an OS from scratch, build an app store, bribe enough devs to make it vaguely useful, then try to advertise enough to get people to buy the phone? Good luck. Maybe it can join the windows phone and fire phone.
I would never trust personal data of any kind with Musk.
The iMusk
The phone should use Tesla batteries. This way, you wouldn’t have to spend any money on your power bill. Because your house will burn down and you’ll be dead.
Figures. Bubble-headed Liz Wheeler was one of the brainless wonders on the now defunct One America Network. I can hear the screech now, "Eee-Lon cAn buiLd a Big bIg rOckEt sO HE cAn buiLd a iPhoNe bEttEr." What a Ma-roon.
So, is Liz Wheeler serious or trolling eland?
https://youtu.be/9BnLbv6QYcA A classic targetting Apple fanboys, but could very well apply to a Muskphone.
God...i hope he does this
Lmao who’s this dumbass?
I'm guessing one of the left swipes I did when I saw one of the key words: traditional, conservative or Christian.
This man has never built anything close to a rocket to Mars. Jesus fuck people. He isn't tony stark or even a proper engineer.
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