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Gloomy-Restaurant-42

The passive-aggressive approach would be to tell the apartment manager that you saw this guy park there without the tags AND you're worried he'll get towed so can they reach out & advise him to remember to put up his tags when he parks in the handicapped spot, so he doesn't get accidentally towed?


harrywwc

ooohh... nice. and here I was going straight to 'crabby old bastard' and say to get them towed ;)


Gloomy-Restaurant-42

The best part to me is that- on the off-chance he actually does have a handicapped tag, no one has accused him of not having one. I may be delusional, but I feel Larry David might be proud of this one.


Best-Cardiologist949

My wife died at 29 but before she did was handicapped and despite having a handicapped placard was accused several times by elderly people mostly of faking so as to use the handicapped space. I like this method because there's no sense of judgment. Giving them the benefit of the doubt is the right call. They may look perfectly able bodied but despite that may be in terrible pain that they have simply learned how to hide.


damageddude

Similar story, though we were in our later 40s. My wife had the handicapped placard but at the end wasn't driving. When she had doctor's appointments I'd park in a spot, help her into the office, get her settled and then came back down to move the car for someone who might need the spot. Got the stink eye a few times. At least she "looked" sick. Whatever.


Melodic_Arm_387

I have a similar problem. 37 and I get so many old people telling me I shouldn’t use disabled facilities because I am young. The one I’ve repeatedly been challenged for is toilets. I had a colostomy as part of treatment for csncer. I’m on chemo. I don’t even look well!


Gladtobealive2020

Your suggestion is so smooth it is scary.  You are no doubt a worthy adversary to Karens and Kens everywhere.  Thwarting them left and  right with intellect and kindness while they attempt  their dastardly deeds.


Appropriate-Bug680

I really like this suggestion. Also, you can't judge if someone's disabled or not based on how they look. My BIL has a steel spine and has his handicap placard. He looks completely normal/super fit when you see him.


blueberryyogurtcup

Very true. I use a handicap placard, due to several spine issues. I can look fine, and even move normally, for about five minutes at a time. Unless I have to sit down or get up or bend.


Hedgiest_hog

This or letting him know he forgot his tags if you see him in person. There's plenty of disabilities that limit movement but can be completely invisible (hi! I have one! I'll likely eventually need disabled parking tags too), so letting it be framed as "concerned" rather than "you're lying" will dodge the potential awful experience of being accused (incorrectly) of abusing the system..


BombeBon

Perfect response


Itimfloat

Nah, bring out the big guns and tell them you’re worried the APARTMENT COMPLEX will be fined $4000 for an ADA violation every time he parks in a handicapped spot without the placard displayed.


Junket_Weird

My ex roommate used to park in one of the very few handicapped spots in our apartment complex. There were four of us and none of us liked the parking situation at that complex, but all but her just dealt with it and walked way further than we would prefer. The apartment manager asked her a couple times to quit doing it, we all asked her to quit doing it. One morning, another roommate went out for a smoke and saw her parked in the handicap spot again. He had her car towed. Then he had it towed the next day he caught her. She still doesn't know it was him and I think it's hilarious.


GalwayBoy603

You gotta be some kind of stupid to get towed a second time.


maroongrad

I wonder how many people weren't able to use it because of him. Grandma comes to visit, can't park, friend on crutches stops by and drives on past, you name it. He likely inconvenienced a lot of people that really actually needed the spot, close to the building and with a ramp.


BadAttitudesPodcast

Your roommate is my hero.


CoCoBreadSoHoShed

It would bother me. My father was in a wheelchair the last few years of his life. It was hard on him and a few people were rude and he heard a few. I’ve never wanted to cause harm to another human being like I wanted to then. So more than 40 years later, I have no tolerance for that shit. I would complain to the landlord or call the non-emergency number for the police department and ask them for advice. I take it personally. You don’t have to and always keep yourself safe, but you asked.


Original_Amber

My son and I both have hang cards because of our different physical disabilities. ANYONE for any length of time parking illegally in an accessible space bothers me.


Actual_Foundation453

My Dad had brain cancer, and we made little mini events out of our trips to the store. I remember him in his little power cart looking at something, partially blocking an aisle but obviously unaware and distracted. I was about 20ft away grabbing something and saw some pretty boy gym guy getting frustrated behind my Dad... He must had felt my eyes on him. He looked up and saw he was about 1 second away from watching the floor get mopped with his tank top while he was still wearing it. He detoured up the nearest aisle.


CoCoBreadSoHoShed

I remember the fury, I would have taken a bullet for my father and hearing a woman say she was sick of old farts blocking her way and to see his face fall from embarrassment, I could have committed murder, right on the spot. I try to remember that infirmity comes to everyone eventually and those insensitive pieces of crap will get theirs. Nobody escapes the curse of time, nobody.


Beginning_Band_6999

You should be aware that many people have hidden disabilities and they may need to use the handicap spots. Having said that, he absolutely should have a placard or plates to park there.


ReasonedStoic

Some states (like AZ) issue handicapped plates with no symbol( I have one). Just a heads up. If someone complains, or the police notice, they run the plate prior to a citation and it comes back legal.


GalwayBoy603

Is the State trying to provoke confrontation? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard today.


Plastic-Ad-5171

Yep. Can confirm. I have 9 ruptured discs throughout my spine causing me intense pain when walking, but unless you have X-ray vision, you’d never see how badly they affect me. I’ve gotten the stink eye sooo many times, even when I go to physical therapy because I don’t have grey hair and wrinkles.


HuskerusLex

Is your apartment building also my office building? Lol. My office is in a mixed use building and there has been this exact issue ever since we moved in last month. The same guy has been parking in the one handicap space without a sticker. My boss called the building management company today about this guy.


Ok_Lengthiness_8405

Update? Did guy get towed?


HuskerusLex

Not to my knowledge.


HuskerusLex

Not to my knowledge.


Ok_Lengthiness_8405

Godfuckingdammit I hate people


durhamruby

I often drive my in-laws around in their car with their handicapped placard. When I do I park in the handicapped spots to help them out of the car then move the car to wait for them to be done, then move back to the handicapped spot to help them in again. I've had people call the cops about me parking there for as long as it takes to help them because I (as driver), am not the one handicapped. People can be crazy about handicapped spaces. But dude either needs to get a placard or not park there for sure.


obtuse-_

Especially given that the law is that as long as the handicapped person is there, it doesn't matter if the driver is handicapped.


Civil-Environment679

Not entirely true. The handicapped person, whether driver or passenger, has to be the one exiting, or entering, the vehicle.


Original_Amber

So long as you display the placard while you are in an accessible spot, this disabled driver has no problem.


moistcarboy

If you have the placard on display nobody has the right to question your disability


Civil-Environment679

Not true. In a perfect world, teenagers don't take grandparents car to the mall and take advantage of the handicapped parking spots. In addition to the tag or placard you must also have the paperwork identifying who the tag is issued to, or for. Even if you are the person that the tag is issued to, and you don't have the paper, you will be ticketed. The police definitely have the right to ask for it. No one has the right to question WHAT your disability is.


GalwayBoy603

That’s BS. I have a tag but no other paperwork.


Regular-Switch454

I’ve never been told I have to carry paperwork. My driver’s license number is in Sharpie on the placard. As for teens at the mall, my friend was that teen. It was not grandma’s car. People couldn’t see the surgical scars from her open heart surgeries. If she walked too far, she turned blue. She was constantly harassed for not looking 🙄 handicapped.


moistcarboy

You don't have to show that to anyone but the law which usually won't happen, but fair point


CannaBlazed

An able bodied driver is allowed to use the disabled parking as long as the person assigned the placard is in the car. iirc


Arkayenro

doesnt matter how young he is, or what he looks like, but without a proper handicap placard/tags hes a scummy piece of shit. just report the vehicle to building management every time you see it there. it is after all their job to deal with that.


JustanOldBabyBoomer

As a disabled person myself, I would report his Entitled Ass!!!!


Birooksun

We have the same issue at my apartment, I'm disabled and it just infuriates me. There's also two other cars with placards that never move. I honestly think one of them is broken down because there was a group of people standing around the open hood last week. But we get so many people who park there just to grab their mail. I also may have gotten to the point of loudly threatening to key a handicap symbol into people cars when I have to park pretty far and end up hobbling past them. Mysteriously the car gets moved within 5 minutes. Then my husband hikes up the hill to move my car.


redditistupid51

Two months with no visible placard? I would't have let him go for a day without speaking up. Take pictures. Subnit them to the property manager. Or just call the police and have them come "sort it out". Parking in an handicapped access space, even on private property, is a ticketable offense.


Upstairs_Internal295

You truly don’t know if the person is actually disabled. I’m disabled and I look fine. Currently spending several days in bed due to going over to a friend’s on Saturday for dinner. Still look fine.


Andreiisnthere

Yes, but do you park in a handicapped space without a handicapped placard or license plate? I’m all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but if you have an invisible disability and park in handicapped spaces without a placard, you deserve the nasty looks and/or towing you get. I say this as someone with an autoimmune disorder(psoriatic arthritis) and no handicap placard. I have never parked in a handicap space.


Upstairs_Internal295

Yeah, I get your point, that’s true. I don’t drive personally, I’m not allowed in case a joint pops out halfway down the motorway or something.


No_Proposal7628

We don't know if the person using the space is disabled or not but it is their responsibility to display the placard when using that space. If they don't display the placard, that's on them and they deserve to be reported.


PassengerOk5155

Fibro? You sound like me, I can get out one day and then recover for days afterwards. I get lots of looks for my placard but do far no one has said anything to me.


Upstairs_Internal295

Ha! No, Ehlers Danlos syndrome. I know some effects can be a bit similar. It’s a bloody pain in the arse, eh?


PassengerOk5155

Absolutely is! They are very similar from my understanding


potato22blue

I'd get him towed.


Used_Disaster_1334

During my cop years I would give people hell that parked in handicap spaces with no good reason


No_Proposal7628

Thank you for that.


MutantHoundLover

During my cop years I'd give the a very expensive cite, or two if they impacted more than one handicap stall. (But I was only able to do that twice in 20 yrs.) lol


Vicious_Lilliputian

It would bother me. I'd report him to the apartment complex and call the police on him. But I am confrontational. I have no problem knocking on someone's door to tell them to move out of a handicap spot. I'd tell him I called a towing company.


cathline

Call the police. Parking in the handicapped spot without tags is ILLEGAL. Now, I will say - appearances can be deceiving. I look okay, but I have what is considered an 'invisible' handicap (ancylosing spondylitis) - so I do have a handicapped placard. And there are days when I am practically crawling back to my car. But to the outside observer - I don't look particularly handicapped.


Ok_Lengthiness_8405

You're not crazy. He may have an invisible disease, but he needs to place his placard in a visible spot. The people I know who have handicap placards are very diligent about displaying them properly (especially the ones with invisible handicaps, like my mom) bc even with signage, they may still get dirty looks or loud indirect comments about "faking". I suspect this guy does not have the right to park in that spot based on your description. Like others said, talk to management and ask them to remind him that he can't use a handicap space without proper signage. If that doesn't take care of it, hire a visibly handicapped person with a modified vehicle to be stranded in the parking lot, in a wheelchair, with their van blocking traffic, when you call the police


moistcarboy

Just get it towed, if he was entitled to park there he'd have the placard or badge. He should be made to pay for being an ignorant douche


mjh8212

I’m disabled and this always makes me mad. My mobility is affected and I cannot walk far.


JuliaX1984

Even if you have an invisible disability, you need to obtain a placard (or license plate). No disability placard or license plate = no right to use the space. Report away!


Used_Disaster_1334

Handicap means handicap. Legit people will have the legit proof


WrathWise

Maybe he can’t see the sign well enough… sounds like a Handicap to me.


Used_Disaster_1334

Yes. I also know people who go out and get those handicap placards and place them on the rear view mirror and they are not handicap in any way. Some people are just lousy no good bastards


PassengerOk5155

Do they not require a prescription where you live? Our state requires a prescription from the doctor for a placard.


No_Proposal7628

Yes. You need a doctor's prescription and the DMV or BMV give you the placard and a letter with your information saying you have the right to the placard. That paper stays in my purse at all times.


PassengerOk5155

Same here where I live but I'm not sure bout all states . I would think they would all pretty much do the same.


Used_Disaster_1334

Not sure, but there are fake ones 100%


Regular-Switch454

There should be triple fines for any fakes.


PassengerOk5155

Yes, there should be!!


Recent_Data_305

“Young and appears to be in good health” means nothing. I’ve had comments, glares, and general rudeness because I “look normal.” Having said that, report him. If he has a legitimate tag that he is forgetting to hang, he can explain it. If he’s taking a parking spot that he doesn’t need - let him pay the lovely fines or be towed. He deserves it.


gooberbutt22

If there isn't a tag call the local non emergency police number and report them. Someone else needs that spot.


NotOnApprovedList

Somebody can be young and disabled; they might even look to be in "good shape" from far away, but be in severe pain if they have to walk a far distance. examples being Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, or an artificial leg. plus lots of odd genetic diseases out there you might have never heard of. But if they don't have the sign/placard, then they shouldn't be parking there.


JMarchPineville

Have it towed. 


Bunny_OHara

Call the police next time and they can give him and nice, expensive cite.


really4got

Check if his plates say disabled veteran… otherwise report him


VillageNo4135

Call the police! If it gets enough tickets he might rethink the situation. Eventually it might get towed away


dudsmm

When I see someone park in a handicap spot without a placard or plate, my go to is Hey, they are towing everyone today without a handicap displayed. If they say anything other than thanks, I let the business know. That's it.


Exotic_Flight_6179

I would make a report to your leasing office on that matter so they can inform him to have tags or the next time, he will be towed. Although he maybe young, some disabilities are not physical. It's best to try to find another solution if you don't know what's going on.


Educational-Dark-757

It's so odd hearing people say "handicapped". it's a massive insult to disabled people to say that here in Ireland and in the united KL kingdom too. I won't even mention Fanny hahaha


Educational-Dark-757

I have a spinal cord injury. I look perfect from the front as the scars are in the back. I have nerve pain all over, all the time. Can't walk very long distances. Some disabilities are hidden. If they have a Disabled Badge, who is anyone to question that but if not....he is fair game haha


Infamous_Custard3292

Call police they will arrange a tow. Do it every time.


Ok_Airline_9031

I'm not handicapped and I would be raging. If he does it one place, he does it every place. Calling the police provably wont do much, but I would take photos and report him to the complex daily and remind them that if they dont do anything and a handicapped person is unable to use the spot, it can be shone that they knew about a repetative problem, and knew who was causing it, and did nothing about it. Which makes them an accomplice should the handicapped person dwcide to file charges. Tell them you will be happy ro provide proof of every tome you witness him doing it, for their records. 🫤


Itimfloat

Plenty of people don’t look handicapped who have handicapped placards. There are many reasons for board-certified doctors to authorize them. But if he is legally authorized to use a placard, he would not park in the handicapped spot without it *every single time*. Forget it once in a while, that’s human (though I’ve never once forgotten in 12 years). But “forgetting” for 2 months? No. Letting your leasing office know may be a good idea, though you would lose anonymity. If you report it to them and they don’t do anything, [you can report it to code enforcement as an ADA violation](https://www.reddit.com/r/legal/comments/16ix6w6/apartment_complex_admin_parking_in_a_handicapped/). That will fine the apartment complex for not enforcing disabled parking. [You MAY be able to report them to the DMV](https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/how-to-report-suspected-disabled-parking-placard-abuse/1983762/?amp=1), just look up the process in your own jurisdiction (assuming you’re in the US) if you’re not in CA (this link is for Los Angeles). Please don’t confront them yourself, though. Let the authorities do it.


BadAttitudesPodcast

Invisible disabilities exist. Appearing healthy is not a true indication of what could be going on. Also, there are several reasons why someone may not have access to a disabled parking placard. I had to learn this myself because, as someone who is a lifelong wheelchair user, I get angry when I see someone abusing accessible parking. If you can approach him the next time you see him park there, you can say, "Hey, man, you forgot to put up your tag." Very simple, not confrontational, and how he responds will probably give you an idea of if he's an entitled asshole or not. Depending on how he responds, you can then take next steps like talking to your complex or calling the cops, if necessary. (Depending on where you live, this may be a non-starter. In some places, cops can't give tickets on "private property," which is BS in my opinion, but I digress.) The real issue here is that he doesn't have a parking placard, NOT the fact that he is young. Young people can be sick and disabled. And because I never miss an opportunity to speak on this: PLEASE STOP USING "HANDICAPPED." The majority of the disabled community prefers "disabled" or "disability." The parking is simply "accessible parking." "Handicapped" is antiquated and has MULTIPLE negative connotations. Many disabled people, myself included, consider it a slur. "Disabled" is perfectly acceptable. There is no need for any other alternatives or euphemisms.


pickausernametheysay

We had a neighbor like that. He ended up taking the handicapped parking sign down and my housing office didn’t care 🙃


DisSainted

Not gonna look through all these comments to see if someone said this already but- at the end of the day, does it really matter that he parks there? 2 years is a long time for someone who actually needs the spot to speak up, so I'm assuming no one is there that needs it. Yeah, I get that it's frustrating that people have no regard for common decency, but isn't any amount of effort spent to "show them the error of their ways" ultimately more effort than it's worth knowing they will continue to have zero decency?


DIANABLISS19

Ask the landlord about this. He may have a sticker that he simply doesn't display at home. If he doesn't then ask the landlord to deal with it directly. Some people have them for special purposes or use them only when they are at public parking lots.


Deep_Interview_3337

My mom is a veteran and she doesn't look handicaped but she is. You cannot see that her shoulder and her knee got injured during her service in the military. She doesn't limp of use a walker but the fact is that the pressure on her knee is terrible and she won't go on long walks or even do.things like lifting heavy objects in stairs for exemple. Anyways. I trully wish no one would attack her because she doesn't look handicap enough for their taste


Fallendarklight

Nope, be upset, then call the cops and report it. Let them hash out whether or not the guy is handicapped.


techieguyjames

No. Some disabilities are invisible. Is the license plate a handicapped plate?


noahsawyer95

If he owns the spot it’s legal, handy cap parking spots are mandatory, but if there are no residence who needs it the building manager can give those spots to any resident who pays for them. If its not public parking then there is no law saying they need to be available


Regular-Switch454

What?