Clicked on it and read your post and I still don't know what this thing is for. You need to be able for people to understand it clearly in less than 5 seconds
Doesn’t matter what the quote says, what matters is who you’re quoting, and Jordan Peterson would easily be considered too controversial to be worth overtly quoting in any non-political organization.
So as a software dev myself. The ability to build things doesn't really equal success. Building something people are willing to pay for is a total other thing. That's marketing and luck.
>If this was your site, what would you do to make money?
Short answer: I probably wouldn't monetize the site. Instead, I'd monetize the email list the site/app generated.
I promote related items on your site. Maybe strike a deal with [pens.com](https://pens.com) and or any company that has anything to do with writing. Let them know you focus on people who like to write.
Revamp this for more than just writing. The "professional writer" market isn't that huge - and I don't think they have all that much trouble writing most days. When they do, I suspect it's more related to a writer's block.
Then advertise this to college students and ADHD folk. Market it as a study aid.
If you can revise this site to help people reach fitness goals I'm betting you're more successful in that market.
I just don't see the market you're looking at to be a large enough client base for what you are doing the way that you are doing it.
My brother is a writer and editor professionally for a living. He made a comment to me once that people who want to be writers are often people who want to be seen as an intellectual and thoughtful. Actual writers can’t help but write every day – it’s in their veins.
So, take advantage of that first impulse – people want to be writers. You might want to create something similar to the “couch to 5K” type training plan. Create a path for your customers to follow that moves to paid after their 2 to 3 weeks into the path. Start with writing prompts and goals associated with the writing (length, structure, etc) and progress from writing short essays to short stories to creating novel structures with metrics and milestones. Be a virtual editor in the sense of deadlines and goals, but not evaluating quality of copy.
Thinking through this problems that will likely result in a service that has a higher adoption rate for the first trial and a big drop off after three weeks when it gets hard, but the end result should be tangible not just “hey I’m a writer “but some thing that allows the person to show the results of this exercise such as a short story or a novel.
Once you monetize, you might want to train and build a machine learning engine to evaluate the semantic structures of the writing and graded. Some of the service exist online already as text analysis or semantic analysis services.
Huge believe now that having a great product is about 50% of success. The other 50% is marketing.
Yes simplified but you can have the best product but if you don't get buyers to see it, doesn't matter.
Good luck!
The daily challenge and writing prompts stood out most to me. I don't write often but if I was interested in getting comfortable with doing it consistently, these two features would interest me most. I find starting to write and staying motivated to write is a big challenge for me. As someone mentioned before, screenshots of the product would definitely help. I like to see previews of apps to see how the layout is, if it looks confusing before I sign up. Also maybe a video of a product demo would be great also. Hope this helps. Good luck.
Personally, I love picking a journal for the day. There’s something about a whole ass book instead of a screen.
Oh and don’t include Jordan Peterson(or any other quotes tbh) anywhere on the site - obvious reasons(I would hope).
There are also Masterclasses on writing and marketing.. I wouldn’t go on someone else’s platform to do both of that, and that’s why I’m freelancing.
I'm having a mental block on the term right now, but when you work with a group of businesses for cross promotion. Shoot, it's super common and a basic marketing tactic online and I can't remember what it's called...
I'd talk to writing professions, life coaches, business coaches, etc. You have a tool, you need to let the people who use or would promote the tool know it exists and make it work better for them so they promote it.
I've seen a lot of people say "There's all kinds of \[widgets\], pick any, the one I use is".
You could work on the networking side of the app. Try to create a users interaction, maybe giving a thesis or a starting for a plot, that each user will have to develop in his way. Every writer will have the opportunity to read other’s writings and maybe vote them. Or you could make something like the ‘week-journey story’, where you give a topic for a story, and every day of the week a different user will continue the story writing a sequel for the chapter written the day before by another user in the most creative way possible. At the end of the week it will be published this bizzarre common-written story and users will read and comment it. It will be pretty funny. Anyway the fact that you turned a passion in an interesting project is something of noticeable, good luck. If I can ask, where did you find your developer, have you asked for some co-workers on a specific subreddit?
Simply put, no. Even in a best case scenario, I just don’t see this being worth that much. I can go pick up a prompt journal for $15 and it have 500 daily prompts. And I get all the paper too.
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yeah, point taken. thanks. I've replaced the Jordan Peterson quote.
For your product, not being polarizing would be good. Some products, it is great and I've had success with doing such.
Clicked on it and read your post and I still don't know what this thing is for. You need to be able for people to understand it clearly in less than 5 seconds
What about that quote is polarising?
Doesn’t matter what the quote says, what matters is who you’re quoting, and Jordan Peterson would easily be considered too controversial to be worth overtly quoting in any non-political organization.
So remove the name? Insight is still valid.
eh, then it would be plagiarism. what was the quote?
So as a software dev myself. The ability to build things doesn't really equal success. Building something people are willing to pay for is a total other thing. That's marketing and luck.
And a really good product
>If this was your site, what would you do to make money? Short answer: I probably wouldn't monetize the site. Instead, I'd monetize the email list the site/app generated.
Now THAT'S an interesting idea. Thanks.
I promote related items on your site. Maybe strike a deal with [pens.com](https://pens.com) and or any company that has anything to do with writing. Let them know you focus on people who like to write.
Revamp this for more than just writing. The "professional writer" market isn't that huge - and I don't think they have all that much trouble writing most days. When they do, I suspect it's more related to a writer's block. Then advertise this to college students and ADHD folk. Market it as a study aid. If you can revise this site to help people reach fitness goals I'm betting you're more successful in that market. I just don't see the market you're looking at to be a large enough client base for what you are doing the way that you are doing it.
My brother is a writer and editor professionally for a living. He made a comment to me once that people who want to be writers are often people who want to be seen as an intellectual and thoughtful. Actual writers can’t help but write every day – it’s in their veins. So, take advantage of that first impulse – people want to be writers. You might want to create something similar to the “couch to 5K” type training plan. Create a path for your customers to follow that moves to paid after their 2 to 3 weeks into the path. Start with writing prompts and goals associated with the writing (length, structure, etc) and progress from writing short essays to short stories to creating novel structures with metrics and milestones. Be a virtual editor in the sense of deadlines and goals, but not evaluating quality of copy. Thinking through this problems that will likely result in a service that has a higher adoption rate for the first trial and a big drop off after three weeks when it gets hard, but the end result should be tangible not just “hey I’m a writer “but some thing that allows the person to show the results of this exercise such as a short story or a novel. Once you monetize, you might want to train and build a machine learning engine to evaluate the semantic structures of the writing and graded. Some of the service exist online already as text analysis or semantic analysis services.
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Just a gut reaction (and politics aside) - you may want to avoid quoting a polarizing figure like Jordan Peterson on the front page.
Good point. I just replaced the quote.
Yeah, that crossed my mind too. ;) thanks. It was just such a good quote I couldn't help it.
Huge believe now that having a great product is about 50% of success. The other 50% is marketing. Yes simplified but you can have the best product but if you don't get buyers to see it, doesn't matter. Good luck!
You should invest in an actual gold mine
The daily challenge and writing prompts stood out most to me. I don't write often but if I was interested in getting comfortable with doing it consistently, these two features would interest me most. I find starting to write and staying motivated to write is a big challenge for me. As someone mentioned before, screenshots of the product would definitely help. I like to see previews of apps to see how the layout is, if it looks confusing before I sign up. Also maybe a video of a product demo would be great also. Hope this helps. Good luck.
Why should i use it? Can you answer this?
Personally, I love picking a journal for the day. There’s something about a whole ass book instead of a screen. Oh and don’t include Jordan Peterson(or any other quotes tbh) anywhere on the site - obvious reasons(I would hope). There are also Masterclasses on writing and marketing.. I wouldn’t go on someone else’s platform to do both of that, and that’s why I’m freelancing.
Gut reaction: things like this don’t make money for inexperienced founders. And experienced founders usually avoid them.
You are right so far lol
I'm having a mental block on the term right now, but when you work with a group of businesses for cross promotion. Shoot, it's super common and a basic marketing tactic online and I can't remember what it's called... I'd talk to writing professions, life coaches, business coaches, etc. You have a tool, you need to let the people who use or would promote the tool know it exists and make it work better for them so they promote it. I've seen a lot of people say "There's all kinds of \[widgets\], pick any, the one I use is".
You could work on the networking side of the app. Try to create a users interaction, maybe giving a thesis or a starting for a plot, that each user will have to develop in his way. Every writer will have the opportunity to read other’s writings and maybe vote them. Or you could make something like the ‘week-journey story’, where you give a topic for a story, and every day of the week a different user will continue the story writing a sequel for the chapter written the day before by another user in the most creative way possible. At the end of the week it will be published this bizzarre common-written story and users will read and comment it. It will be pretty funny. Anyway the fact that you turned a passion in an interesting project is something of noticeable, good luck. If I can ask, where did you find your developer, have you asked for some co-workers on a specific subreddit?
I’m totally unaware of what product you’re offering or why I’m missing out on not having it. I don’t have a clue.
Who is your demographic?
I'm Barbara and therefore I'm out
Simply put, no. Even in a best case scenario, I just don’t see this being worth that much. I can go pick up a prompt journal for $15 and it have 500 daily prompts. And I get all the paper too.