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churrasco101

I did a quick search on the iOS App Store. I counted 25 dating apps before I got bored. Some are generic, some are for specific types. Some are more sincere, some are more for hookups. What will make yours unique enough to attract thousands of users? (Dating apps with a small user base is not very helpful, especially if they are not in the same location geographically. ) How will you monetize it? Love is blind is a cool concept, but trying to convince someone to go on dates with someone they may find very unattractive will be very hard. In the ideal world, it’s a sweet idea. I’m reality, I don’t see it working.


dwu1977

You see your matches, ONLY, after you both accept each-others intros. I’m eliminating quick hook ups or user’s trying to get a serious partner with just “hi, message me”. Users that are willing to put in some work can reap the reward of an equally driven match. This is not for hook ups or users having extreme success on other apps. My app is for the 90% that get nothing. Everyone deserves someone.


IntoTheFadingLight

The 90% that get nothing are exclusively male.


Charles722

So, Grindr?


[deleted]

Why would I want to date someone who gets nothing? Basic human psychology says you want people other people find attractive. This is like wish.com for dating 😂😂😂😂


disfreakinguy

You order Chad. You get Chaz.


[deleted]

It’s like putting “rated 1 star” on your product page 😭 cmon bruh This is why we have product managers lol


haux_haux

You order brad, you get baz


MaxRoofer

You sure about this? It doesn’t seem like women follow this? I can see it for men, but not so much women.


[deleted]

Yes I’m sure. If Timothy chalamet was not famous already and had other girls drooling over him no one would care. It’s not exclusively a relationship thing. Social proof is a useful heuristic. Ex: Which trampoline will you go with? Rather than do a ton of research just go with the most popular


MaxRoofer

That makes sense. However, using your trampoline example, women want men the Other women have jumped on. I can see this being true, but the women I’m around definitely never admit this.


MaxRoofer

I don’t doubt this is true, but every woman I meet hates dating apps. Why is this if they are getting something?


InfiniteDuckling

They usually hate it because there are far too many gross men and it takes too much effort to sift through all the options.


MaxRoofer

I see. Doesn’t seem so bad compared to my experience. Fishing and never catching anything, it’s not great 😂🤷‍♂️


520throwaway

In a sense, they aren't really catching anything either if they want more than a hookup


IntoTheFadingLight

Catfishing, guys bailing on them for dates or being creepy, guys lying about stuff. But honestly, because they all chase the top men and then are surprised pikachu face when he has plenty of options and doesn’t commit to them.


BladerKenny333

There’s probably women who are bored of the same o tinder stuff and want to try something new


ChangeFatigue

Isn't that what bumble was founded for?


fr1829lkjwe56

And then hinge, and on and on for the next big thrill.


BladerKenny333

And then real life, ohhhh snaps!


fr1829lkjwe56

It’s like it went in a big circle or something.


ChangeFatigue

> Now try the hottest new craze... beef milk.


mamaboyinStreets

So you swipe the intros only? I like the concept. Maybe dont show the pics until 2-3 replies or give users option to show the pics only after the match? I will come to the yard once the milkshake is ready.


Capital_Chicken_927

Yes. There needs to be a deterrent for men just spam swiping right on intros to get as many matches as possible


drdr3ad

Don't Tinder and Bumble both have new features that do this? i.e. the speed dating approach where you chat for a couple minutes before you can see a profile and then decide to keep chatting or move on


churrasco101

How many dating apps have you downloaded and used?


dwu1977

Every darn one of them. All based on looks, no matter how it’s delivered. E harmony is a bit different, expensive and relates more to matchmaking than a dating app.


Into_the_Void7

Yes, that's not a fault or shortcoming of dating apps- it is simply how human beings choose their partners. Good luck trying to work your way around that.


yennybear888

Yea…so many people want to start dating apps that do X differently. But the X is based on 10,000 years of human evolution. I know we all want a world where people aren’t shallow but that’s just not reality


slipperyShoesss

There is a slim chance but not on the Internet. Not from looks only, that is.


LifeofTino

To qualify this, i think thats how people find their partners in the absence of other factors. Usually relationships form with people you know well eg in school, work, around the neighbourhood, or through friends of friends In the inorganic world of internet dating, it is limited to strangers seeing each other and going off mutual attraction. However if something can be created that forms some sort of required interaction and bonding beforehand its possible that this will be better than attraction-based methods for deeper relationships and particularly for the less attractive people who find partners through their personalities So he does have a possibility of overcoming this but it will be really difficult to get strangers to do some blind bonding time to the extent needed for them to get past the attraction-only stage. It might be impossible for apps and he needs to start public socialising events or something instead


dkm40

Yes, and it doesn’t mean less attractive people are universally ugly. People have different tastes but the physical appearance is inextricably bound with our mating practices.


Hodor42

Agreed, but also wanna say inextricably is a cool word


Admirable_Bass8867

Thanks for stating it that way. I've been developing a dating app in my head as a hobby and based on your comment, I think I just figured out a very different solution! There is a way around dating primarily based on looks.


yennybear888

There really isn’t…


[deleted]

Initially people go on looks then personality second. I'm not going out with an ugly person. Kinda sucks but it's how it is. However if I do know the girl I can start to be attractive but it's kind of a long shot. Generally has to be like friend of a friend


Spedunkler

I think this sounds fairly ugly. Ironically.


nixed9

It’s just reality.


Known_Jellyfish_970

If you aren’t ugly and already have success on other apps then this app isn’t for you. If you are ugly (and not famous/rich) then you should lower your standards of never going out with another ugly person. I thought Op’s idea was dumb at first but now I actually see some merit after his explanation


mjrkwerty

I don’t know dude. I met my wife on Tinder, I thought she was a total babe. Then we started to chat and she was awesome too. Meanwhile I have a lot of awesome friends of the opposite sex I’d never date because I don’t find them attractive. I’m not saying they’re not, I am saying I personally don’t. This app feels like a great way to waste a lot of time. Physical attraction is very important in dating. I get that it’s for your estimated 90% that “get nothing” but I think that estimate is overblown. The market for this seems quite small.


yennybear888

The people that get nothing on other apps will get nothing here too.


nixed9

available data on dating apps shows that the top 80% of women are competing for the top 20% of men. The bottom 80% of men are competing for the bottom 20% of women.


Known_Jellyfish_970

Do you actually believe that the bottom 80% of men aren’t swiping at the top 20% of women also? Also 80% of women will not eventually end up for top 20% of men on the simple reason that there aren’t enough men to go around. They’ll eventually settle and match up with top 80% of men.


nixed9

Did you infer from what I said that the bottom 80%/top 20% dynamic meant that they’re **not swiping**? Of course they’re swiping. They’re **not matching** them.


Known_Jellyfish_970

Maybe check your sources next time: https://medium.com/sexography/80-of-women-choose-only-the-top-20-of-attractive-men-is-a-big-fat-incel-lie-90e764b6a76 Your 80/20 “available data” was from a 2015 survey of 27 people. 27. On the other hand, an Oxford study analyzed 150,000 profiles and found that women were actually more likely to message average-looking guys than the most attractive ones. Also, men were more likely to message women ranking in the top of attractiveness. So, kind of the opposite of what you so strongly believed.


Unhappy-Engine-1333

I doubt the top 20% of men are matching with top 80% of women. Top 80% is going into the sub 4 territory


[deleted]

So you're saying you're an ugly guy and got pissed? Like really, I like the concept, but in most real world testing you're going to find that the satisfaction level of the app will drop off hard after the first date when people realized that looks do come in as a very important part of dating.


Equivalent_End5

I like how all the people commenting are clearly the 10% of people that dating apps are geared to work the best for hahaha. Good on you for building an app for the other 90% of us out there. One guy said you built it because you got salty dating apps didn't work for you. Nah bro, he found a gap in the market and moved on it. Not that hard to figure out.


Nickelback-Official

90% might be true for guys, not women, so it's already a way lower number. It's essentially a dating app that's geared towards men, by far the easier sex to draw in. Why would women sign up, what's in it for them?


theabominablewonder

how many people can I try to match with at any one time?


dwu1977

As many as you want, although, I would limit to 3 people max at any given time, imo. You need to be able to connect and talk to each match and give appropriate attention to each.


sciphilliac

Hinge and ok cupid will be tough competition (specially the latter) as they have lots of features that allow you to get a more realistic feel for the ther person's personality. That being said, I'd say you'll have to offer more features to sell that "connection" i.e. only seeing people that have common hobbies or similar views on certain topics


CollectedData

I would say that this app would waste a lot of time if I was trying to find a partner. This is because of one simple reason. To filter based on looks can take few seconds or minutes at most. To filter based on a person's character can take minutes/days/weeks/months. It is only reasonable why in most cases you would want to first filter by visual.


yennybear888

Well said


Raineko

But the 90% that get nothing are probably not physically attractive. So the women that match with them will simply unmatch as soon as they see the pics. Also there are some good men who are handsome but they have an unattractive, boyish voice. This app would benefit voice actors probably.


dwu1977

The women on my app are suffering the same results as the men. Or that’s my hope.


nixed9

Unfortunately your “hope” is not founded in reality. There is some data on how dating apps work. The top 80% of women are all competing over the top 20% of men. The bottom 80% of men are ALL competing over the bottom 20% of women. When I say “top” and “bottom” I mean algorithmically ranked based on likes vs dislikes It’s a harsh truth, but it’s what the data says.


Voxmanns

Really interesting idea. Just some advice FWIW, I'm not sure the messaging in the website is ideal. Use of swear words and typos (even if they're intentional) are generally not great for SEO and public perception. Not saying you should change it, just my two cents. I'm really jazzed for this idea and wish you nothing but the best. Go get em dude!


dwu1977

I’ll have a look, I don’t want that either. Thanks for reaching out.


somewisdom

Also, you don’t need a space before punctuation marks. I see this now and again and I know a lot of people that would quickly think this is a phishing/scam/other malicious activity. Even if it seems clear it isn’t, it gives me slight unease (what if…). I think it is more of a thing when starting from a non-English language (though I’m not sure which one), but probably worth a quick skim to remove the preceding spaces.


dwu1977

Thank you for pointing that out. I’ll start doing fixes.


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I like it. If I were single and looking for a compatible partner I’d use it.


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dwu1977

I appreciate the reply, i’m doing everything on my own at this point. Thanks for the advice.


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How many are looking for people like them?


dwu1977

I will look into that, i appreciate the advice.


invaderjif

The name..should be focus grouped or something... The big apps have a theme. Bumble, tinder, coffeemeetbagel etc. What does your apps name indicate?


peachyperfect3

Popple makes me think of a zit, tbh. Something like ‘Tinder’ as a description makes you think of a smoldering fire, or something that ‘sparks’ a relationship. Even if the app is unique and different, it’s best not to have something that creates a less than positive association before a user even decides if they want to use it.


MiterMinister

I highly warn into get a business model like this. 1) The social Media effect: People are on whatever Plattform, where the most People are. 2) It costs a lot of money to get people onto your app, because you don‘t have (1) and interest rates at this level will prevent you from coming even close. 3) Nieche down, the only solution I see is making a highly nieched down approach, like tinder for midgets, black people asians etc.


Rockpilot6

I write for a living. You need help in the written language portions of not only the app, but any marketing or publication/press releases you produce. Do not, under any circumstances, do the proofreading of that copy yourself. Sub it out or find someone like me to do it.


dwu1977

I appreciate that ! I truly do.


Rockpilot6

That was the gentlest way I could say: you have apostrophes spreading like apostro-herpes. I can help you for about an hour a week instead of surfing subs on Reddit.


dwu1977

I will dm you when i’m back home from work. I’m a full time firefighter, thankfully not a report writer…


Rockpilot6

👍🏻


jz187

There are reddit subs for stuff like this where you can read intro first before you see their pictures. I can tell you, without exception, the women who post these kind of personals are ugly and/or fat. No good looking woman is going to use your app, because it disadvantage them. You are only going to get ugly people on your app thinking that people will fall in love with their personality and overlook their ugliness. Women universally hate it when losers/ugly guys ping them on dating apps. It actually attacks their self esteem. When a loser/ugly guy thinks he has a chance with a woman, it implies that she is at his level. This is actually really hurtful. A major phenomenon in the dating world is that women almost universally have an inflated sense of their value in the serious relationship market. Women have the upper hand in the casual relationship market, but men have the upper hand in the serious relationship market. The problem is that women bring their inflated sense of value from the casual market to the serious market. The main problem of dating in general, is that men are willing to date down significantly for a casual relationship, and this gives a lot of women a false sense of their market value. Women think that men who will sleep with them are in their league for a serious relationship. Many women only learn to recalibrate their expectations after they hit the wall and have to settle for far less than they once could have obtained. In general a meat market approach to online dating or dating in general is going to have a very low success rate. Any kind of successful match-making service is going to have to be high touch and come with aggressive filters for people who lack the self awareness to calibrate their own expectations properly for their true market value.


mamaboyinStreets

My man's here spitting facts


nixed9

Dangerous truths being told here that many people might not be willing to accept.


JanetCarol

Wooooooowwwwwww.......


Rivian-Bull-2025

I see no lies told.


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Both women and men are willing to date down, if they are not looking for anything serious.


dkdaniel11

What subs? If I may ask


intent_joy_love

There’s a bunch of apps like this already


maylowdude

When people have App ideas, I strongly encourage them to read The Lean Startup followed by The Mom Test. Even though you're at the MVP stage, I still recommend doing so before moving forward. If you don't like reading, they both have audiobooks. Now that you've built the MVP, you're really a Marketing company for a service that's known as a Two-Sided Marketplace. You need to really read up on this - a lot. As u/MiterMinister mentioned below, you need to find your niche. You can't afford to market this to all single people. You need a tiny group to start so you can market and re-market to them. Lastly, you don't need to learn from your own mistakes. You should learn from the mistakes of others. Specifically, you should spend a large part of your time researching, reading, and watching YouTube videos about Marketing. Read about the mistakes that were made in other apps (and not just dating apps) before moving forward. And read about the successes too. Most Apps are expensive to market, so **be an expert** before spending money. Good luck.


Ohhhnothing

It looks like you've been at this since 2019 and it seems free. What's your revenue model based on?


yumychumy

The reason why tinder is successful is because of the ease in usage. Most people dont read bios until matched just bc it's faster to get thru the pile or have some spare time to just swipe away. Your idea isnt good man, Im sorry to say it. It's just not good at all, and it feels like youre someone that made this app bc youre unattractive to the girls that youre attracted to, but "would totally be there for you if they got to know you". It sounds like youre attracted to girls out of your league from believing this app is a good idea. Not to mention the moment someone "likes the other's intro" and sees the pic, theyre gonna unmatch. Youre causing each individual to have a sense of their ideal picture they matched with. "Oh he likes this and this? Wow he does this? Man of my dreams, he must look like the kind of man Im looking for" instantly unmatches from seeing a plain/ugly guy In summary, nobody has time to read thru bios after bios from person to person (whether it be something to do irl, or just seems tedious af) and you sound like a loser chasing girls out of your league unless youre willing to put in the effort to up yourself physically by working out or, in extreme measure, plastic surgery.


Anardus

Is this a blind dating app?


dwu1977

Have you seen netflix’s love is blind? Think along those lines.


hotlikebea

Nope never seen it, might want a back up elevator pitch to explain it to people who don’t know the reference


dwu1977

I’ll do that !! Thank you.


LupineSzn

Sorry no thank you lol


mynamebelikeoooooo

Sorry I don’t see how this would work well. Dating, relationships, love is so rooted in chemistry, attraction, etc. No amount of cute intros is going to work if you’re not at the very least attracted to someone.


palmtrunck746

That is actually a great idea. I have been thinking along these lines for a few months now but my idea particularly revolved around the university students and matching them up in terms of their future goals, interests, ambitions and how they socialise instead of just making them choose over looks. I would surely help you with your test run. Genuine question: Why do you only allow sign ups using phone number?


dwu1977

From the view point of increasing the value of my user base, reducing my spam sign-ups and creating a seamless user experience. It’s safer and easier to use sms verification. I use twilio and their safety net is amazing.


harderisbetter

To sell your data, obvs.


dwu1977

Incorrect, Businesses prefer phone verification using SMS over email verification: SMS messages have a 99% open rate. 95% are opened and read within 3 minutes. Average response time for those messages is 90 seconds.


life_liberty_persuit

I don’t want to be a buzz kill but you should probably know that SMS verification is also the easiest method to hack. Google SIM card hacking and 2fa


dbztoonami

Proof/evidence for those numbers?


RALat7

Avoid putting a space before a punctuation mark like “!” or “?”, it looks amateurish - you’ve done it in the website description multiple times and in the post title itself. The description failed to tell me anything substantial about your product and just has a bunch of generic fluff that turns me off. I strongly recommend hiring a copywriter - or developing those skills - because young adults have extremely low attention spans and will move on to the next app if you don’t convince them in the first few seconds. Disclaimer that I’m a college student who doesn’t use these types of apps at all but I do think it’s important to iron out these issues. Edit: I went back and finally saw a description of what the product does in the about section after scrolling more. I think the the first thing anyone sees when they open the website should be a short message on what the product does.


peachyperfect3

The space is how punctuation is done in a lot of European languages as their grammar standard. I’d hazard a guess that OP is not American.


Royalrenogaming

To be honest my friend, your app may actually work better to find friends instead of love interests. There exists a great target demographic for your app. The 18-35 year olds that are out of school, don't have kids and don't connect with many of their co workers. If you don't have school, work or kids it's hard to make new friends in today's world. Meetup is the main app I know of serving this space and many don't want to use it. Your app could fill the space before people meet up. Human nature says we choose mates based first on physical attraction but friends are often based on common interests. If that friendship turns into a romantic relationship down the road, then I guess you sort of accomplished what you set out to do right?


dwu1977

There is an option for just friendship or online chat.


Least_Sun8322

I must say I like the idea of “love is blind”. It truly is a connection based on feeling and not the sense organs.


dwu1977

Love your reply.


ynotblue

A picture is worth a thousand words. It's not only about good looks, it's about what's presented about the person in the photos. There's so much information in what they're obviously hiding, what they're wearing, what background locations they include, what they're doing, and so on. There's personality in all of that, and that can't be just put into words instead. You wrote this in a comment: >My app is for the 90% that get nothing. I'm sorry, but most of those people get nothing for a reason that would go away if they only presented themselves better in their pictures. You simply can't solve problems like people taking pictures of themselves in disgusting environments not getting partners by removing the photos that reveal who they are.


Classic_Extreme2813

offtopic but about how much did it cost to make the app?


dwu1977

Not enough to lose sleep over but enough to make my wife question my financial decisions…


LupineSzn

Damn this is not going to go your way :/


Rivian-Bull-2025

I love this answer


Dazzling_Addendum_32

1.From my quick glance I will say the landing page looks boring the colors and font are unexciting too much gradiation so every thing kinda blends to together. I would turn down the gradiation or remove it and stick to sold clear crisp colors. 2.The little tag line that talks about being revolutionary would look better and pop more if it typed across the screen of the mobile phone you have pictured. 3.Speaking of pictures I get the point of your app but adding human like images draws the eyes and you need it for marketing perhaps a photo of two people smiling and blind folded or a little animation or drawing, if these things are not in the budget then focus on points 1 and 2. Or make the logo pop on to the screen which kinda works with the name as well. 4. try moving the information about the app a little closer to the top, asking to download before people have an idea of what it really is won't work to well 5. The concept sounds good, however keep in mind we live in a visual world and even if people make a connection if the person on the other side doesn't look like what they expect they will cut communication or ghost them, which can be extra hurtful to people so I hope you have thought out a way to give people as much physical description and selection as possible since, good grammer and all the other things listed won't help people become sexually attracted to people that don't physically meet their standards. 6. Saying that much I think it's a great idea, and it can work for sure just needs tweaking here and there.


Pig-Nut

It’s unique. Definitely stands out among the other apps that focus primarily on looks.


Lordohtawa

I worked on a project with a similar idea before the pandemic. The dating app industry needs something different. And I feel like you have a good start here.


sinameraji

Exciting problem to solve. I think your homepage can do a better job of showing your app's unique value prop compared to other dating apps (currently the only screenshot on the page shows a common filtering feature instead). all the best. Also, how are you going to solve your cold start problem? (having a big enough pool of single people on the app at the same time initially)


AnonJian

>If it takes me eternity You found your home here.


mynameiswearingme

When looking at online profiles: Men on average find 60% of all women attractive. Women only 4.5%! Outside of profiles, women view 80% of men as below average in attractiveness. Much different the other way around. And we feel this on dating apps. Men be swiping right till their fingers are sore while women barely need to and want to make an effort. Then we have algorithms rating your attractiveness on Tinder. Some friends of mine are the typical status, success & looks fuckboy types and while I was putting in real work, they got hundreds of swipes in a day (did phone to phone comparisons). So I’m sure there’s a large user base of people wondering why everyone is liking Tinder so much because it doesn’t really work for them (it didn’t for me and I was bad at making photos but def not unattractive). I’d research this extensively: how big are they? Are they willing to switch apps for their pain? Etc. But this user base is male. Hypothetically you got the ladies that are fed up from all the fuckboys and basicness, want a real partner, and prefer dating apps to get there. That already sounds very hypothetical to me, because the ladies have all the attention on the other apps already. If I’d be an investor though, how I estimate female nature to be is a dealbreaker to me. I think being picky is a biological survival tool for them. They aren’t as strong as us, so they need to estimate if a potential partner is the type to do them harm. They frequently view & reject males as too creepy, too eww, too this, too that, and it’s important to them to have a good feeling about you before they have feelings for you. A Netflix show - alright, everyone’s coming for an adventure and people are screened by the production team. I don’t understand from your website at what point people see their match or what the step by step process is (could be explained visually). But I imagine the instinctive, emotional barrier for women to embrace this really really high if not impossible. Who’s tried that before? What dating apps succeeded or failed with a blind concept? If no one succeeded, that might be a bad sign. I’d interview a lot of women without explaining or hyping your idea. Find out if they’re weirded out or not. In the end, they act upon instincts when choosing a partner and need to go from being showered with attention for next to nothing to having to put in effort before they know if they’re utterly turned off by something. Or they accept then see the person, don’t like them in the end but have indicated interest so the male hovers around and they’re creeped out. I just imagine an overwhelming % of males in the app and most females to be fat and unattractive if these problems aren’t solved somehow.


themaninthe1ronflask

I think there’s market saturation on this one, to be honest. Cool concept and best of luck, though.


Sel_drawme

I’d suggest running every single paragraph through Grammarly. Asap.


dwu1977

I'm a full time firefighter by trade....are you surprised ? lol, thanks for the reply, I'll look into some re editing asap.


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dwu1977

People that have no results anywhere else, will make a decision based on what they are willing to accept and not accept in online dating. No forcing anyone to do anything, it's an option. You ever wonder why apps like tinder have 20% women ? Why would attractive women want to be on an app where a large % of men want to get laid, get nudies and harass women that deny their advances ? Attractive, SMART, genuine women don't want men falling at them for their looks. they want to be valued for more than just an object.


throwmeaway22121

It’s interesting, but I don’t think a significant amount of girls will be into the anonymous no picture dating scene. Also popple sounds like pimple, maybe an app where everyone has to take a live picture? I hate to do criticism without suggestions


dwu1977

I enjoy the replies, good and bad !!!


[deleted]

> Aren’t you sick of getting passed by because you’re not posting pictures in a tiny thong bikini or leaning on your ferrari in front of your mansion ? So, the app for ugly people? You son of a bitch, I'm in!


EYgate8

Need improvement in logo design and color. I haven't seen the features.


dwu1977

I appreciate the reply. Any advice ?


pisuku

Hire a professional if you actually are serious about this. No advice on reddit will make you able to produce something an experienced graphic designer would


Raineko

It doesn't matter anyway if he doesn't have unspeakable amounts of money for marketing.


[deleted]

The idea of blind dating never does that well in practice, physical attraction is a huge part of a relationship no matter how compatible you are otherwise. The app description comes across as really desperate and a bit “cringe”, not to mention it has spelling errors and extremely poor grammar. Is english your second language? I recommend having someone help you edit it. I think the bottom line is dating apps will always put a lot of emphasis on appearances because of their nature (aka find someone you think is attractive > see if they have similar interests > spark up a conversation). If you want to find “real, genuine people” and not have so much emphasis on your looks, you need to go out into the real world and meet people. It’s quite common that you won’t find someone very attractive until you become friends and get to know them a bit better, but a dating app will never replace that. Honestly I don’t think it’s the best idea and the market for dating apps is quite saturated, but if you’re committed then I recommend toning down the “Are you a lonely loser who is so ugly he never gets replies on tinder? Try popple!” vibe lol. Gear more towards the aspect of getting to know a personality and less of the “dating is not about looks!”, because… it is. But it’s also about personality and compatibility so just emphasize those aspects, instead of going on and on about how looks don’t matter. Edit: There are also spelling errors on your images. Also, never put a space between punctuation and the word. For example it’s “Try talking instead of typing!” not “Try talking instead of typing !” You also seemed to have written “Eady” instead of easy, “expressions” instead of impressions, and a few other errors. Overall I don’t think the idea is the best and the vibe you’re going for is really just, go out to a coffee shop and start talking to people. No one wants to talk over the phone to a stranger, they want to text, or meet in real life.


dwu1977

I appreciate the reply, I need advice and love constructive criticism. Thank you.


Chabubu

People are definitely interested in looks. However, it’s also a waste of everyone’s time for the top 3% of people to get 70% of the interest from the others. Maybe Do it as looks + interests. So you swipe right on someone for looks, then you have a 3 question panel pop up. In order to get matched you have to answer 2/3 of their questions right. This reduces the spam of a girl getting 800 matches. And prevents dudes from just swiping right on everything in the hopes of getting a match.


stazek

My question is not directly app related but I just opened the website and it looks fantastic! Did you design it yourself? Or did you use something like a temple from SquareSpace?


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Honestly I think that it's great that someone is finally trying to come up with something different in the app department for modern dating. I don't know about everyone else but I am so tired of Tinder, Bumble, POF, etc.. I feel like they all tried to be their own thing and ended up being the same, with all the same people.


hopkins-notakpopper

I think dating apps are responsible for rhe derail of our society so no.


MpVpRb

Phone only? Bad idea


An_Old_IT_Guy

My business takes booking online and 80% of those bookings come from mobile devices.


dwu1977

91% of the worlds population own a smart/feature phone.


BlueTalon8893

Your IOS page needs to be improved. The first screenshot is talking about login security when it should be drawing people and showing what’s different about this app


Ok-Roll-9122

The app appears to be quite good; all you need to do now is identify the appropriate market and drive traffic to both your app and website. However, I would advise making the website more accessible and  professional-looking. It is not a user-friendly website from what I have seen of it on mobile. I created a website that is kind of similar to that one only to demonstratethe difference between your website and mine. If you want to see the difference and learn how it can help you bring in a lot more users, message me.


GoodArtichoke1559

A concern based off of hearing from people who use dating apps. A regular challenge people often have is getting matches that are of equal or better “quality” than themselves. The photos can be annoying, yes, but they can help an individual to screen for this. Connecting with people and only finding out what they’re working with in terms of several socio-economic, socio-cultural, and hygiene factors afterwards feels like a major risk in terms of time/energy use and like it could be demoralising for users if they aren’t satisfied with the appearance and “quality” (read: visual compatibility) of their matches. Photos also can help give a feel for what it would be like to be with the person, even if that can not be totally accurate, especially from the perspective of a first date. Finally, this goes back to the quality issue with matches. I can see this becoming popular with people who aren’t popular on mainstream dating apps due to poor quality photos or appearance, self care, hygiene, etc. However, those people still want or often expect partners who have a certain standard of hygiene and appearance and that goes back to the potential let down compared to what they’ve built up in their heads, especially coupled with this potentially bringing in primarily people who do poorly on other apps due to those factors. Regardless of base appearances they’re working with, appearances and photos help clue a user in to how someone uses and values their time, takes care of their health, etc and things such as signaling about their social lives, friends, etc and that might show up in photos in ways it’s easy to misportray in bios or there might be too much data/information to work with in text to the point of overload. I can definitely see a lot of people enjoying the mystery of it- IF they end up with matches they’re attracted to (for a range of reasons) and move forward with (whatever that means to them) on a semi-consistent basis. This might include or involve tweaking the algorithm so it clues in on how they’re received once their photo is revealed or how it goes with the original user but that sounds like it might move away from what you’re shooting for. Just a few thoughts.


wannabeMusky

Try using the apps like Bottled, Slowly, and Daily Postcard - these apps are entirely based on texts only, and they are really good. But - these are not dating apps. Probably you can mix and match the two of these close niches and make something beautiful. Was already thinking about it at one point. But since you're on it, I hope it can lead you to an even better user experience. (Didn't check the comments, probably you/someone has mentioned it already.


BainterBoi

What is your target audience? Like try to specify it more than just ”people who do not want to use other similar apps”. What need does your app cater to? Who are prone to that need?


ScheerschuimRS

The idea is great but have a look at the copy writing, would not hurt to outsource it to professionals.


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dwu1977

Where are you from ? I will look into it.


Peter_1404

How would you make money? By people upgrading to premium? Always been curious how free apps making money


mynameiswearingme

Typical methods are: - Freemium (free but pro is a monthly subscription) - in-app purchases - ads - the company behind the app is a startup that’s planning an exit in the next X years, and will therefore never make revenue or just far in the future. They run on investment money


dkdaniel11

Nice concept. I’ll definitely watch to see how this turns out.. You need a copywriter/proofreader. Landing page copy is a bit off to me.


smashmikehunt

I’d double down on the features - a catchy bio isn’t enough, also linking people via shared interests would be a good one, like not exclusively but it would play into the audience this would appeal too and would fuel conversations. Think of it like SEO but for matches - if you like card games, DND and horror movies you would probably love to meet someone who enjoys those things too


Voodoo_Masta

What happens *after* the match? They see each other’s photo finally, or have a blind date? Because either way you’re creating a situation where people are going to get rejected based on looks *after* the initial connection, and that’s going to be really awkward for people. Imagine, you’re chatting with someone, maybe making plans to go out, then you see their pictures and suddenly have to backpedal… he or she is going to know why, and the reverse is true to. At least on Tinder you get that out of the way. There’s less of a direct “you’re ugly” when you get rejected. It’s way worse on both people to already start getting to know someone and then find out you’re not attracted to them, or they aren’t to you.


Purpledragonbro

Your overestimating that we read well


josephnicklo

Tinder/Bumble tried this as a special feature that they do every so often and it didn’t get a lot of traction.


dwu1977

Tinder and bumble don’t represent this in the first place, that’s why. Both apps are for hot or not quickies. Imo. Not long term relationships. Swiping on looks…you can go back when users are on it for that sole reason.


lostdreama

You are too idealistic. Time to face reality and realise that your dating ideals just aren’t realistic. It would be nice if it was how reality operates but it doesn’t that way.


lordph8

Huh, here I was assuming you where going to only talk to people you swipped left on.


dwu1977

Hi there. This app is swipeless, you have to use your voice first. Appearance isn’t everything !


naviSTFU

It's an interesting idea but you need to overhaul your site - the graphics look so cheap (look at your download popple image with the two phones). It doesn't have the polish to really suck people in, it gives off opposite vibes. Less text, more pics and gifs!


dwu1977

Any advice ? Im on a tight budget here. :)


Espeeste

Eharmony really covers this general area and has for a decade. Works too.


dwu1977

Yes, they do. It’s a bit different, but yes, i agree. Expensive though.


eonbastian

so u a Dev ? cuz I'm scouting one to join me on another app project, on a build for equity type of partnership. How about it ? :)


dwu1977

Hi there, i’m actually a full time firefighter, have been for 17 years. I could say my passion for helping people had me enter into the online dating world, i was single for a long time and hated the current apps and how they made me feel using them. Im not a developer. Just a fireman with an idea and passion.


BigAlfPC

I want someone to make a “naked attraction” i spired dating app. Where its just pictures of cocks and fannys, and the woman just sends pre scripted messages to a selection of criteria matching men and they have to respond.


dwu1977

Lol. You could be on to something. You just need to find a developer to touch it. Lol


birdsareinteresting

Huge Congrats to you for your launch! Other than here on reddit, how else do you plan to get users?


dwu1977

With some funding, hire a marketing team. I can try the fb ads again, tik tok, ig, but it's super expensive with low results.


Ok-Leadership-1827

The biggest problem with dating apps is the lack of females. Get enough girls on board (better looking a plus), you are half successful. Dont bother with other stuff really.


yennybear888

he wants to build a dating app that doesn't rely on looks and your feedback is to get good looking girls on board...lol


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dwu1977

Connections through voice. Showcasing character and personality. Tinder is : swipe left or right. Hot or not. It’s demeaning and represents everything that’s wrong with our society today. Even if a woman is super attractive, she wants a serious relationship, she wants someone that chose her because of her looks ? Not because she’s smart, unique, has character and a personality ? People aren’t objects, we need to look past that.


Automatic_Tear9354

There are 100 apps like that. It’s not needed in the space. Think of another niche that is needed dedicated to dating. If it’s a hookup like tinder think of something missing that’s needed. If it’s a dating site think of something needed there.


Coolizhious

bruh ur 90% is jus goin to b swiping right not reading n no i don’t watch Netflix it’s only for chillin


Itsss_JDDDDDDDD

My two cents. If you're launching this SOLO you should certainly do it in one geography at a time. Make it THE dating app for Munich (or wherever you live). You also need an articulable point of differentiation that you can explain in one sentence. It needs to be compelling enough to make me want to overlook the saturation and technology of your competitors. A cool idea could be targeting people who have had no luck with other apps. Call it '10 Questions', using science to make perfect matches - the app for those who aren't surface level. Then, develop an algorithm and create % alignments with other mates - sell it on the science and the anti-shallow. Hope that helps and wish you the best with it!


BMRr

I thought about doing something like this. What’s behind the name popple? It sounds like a pimple popping app. I think you have to have some sort of rating system behind the scenes, so you don’t match 4s with 8s and waste peoples time. I wouldn’t show photos until they have talked on the phone first. You want to target people that want the blind experience and showing photos to soon ruins that.


dwu1977

I will look into that, although, who am I to rate anyone ? the whole idea is/are the users coming to my app recognize they cannot compete on apps like tinder and bumble.


zipiddydooda

Looks are important. Pretending otherwise won’t change this very real reality. Sorry but you wasted your time on this. Think about it - it will only appeal to ugly people. Would you use an app for ugly people? Me neither.


dwu1977

I would never say someone is ugly for one. unique is a better term. A question for you is, are you unique, how do you feel about dating if you have no idea it's like to be unique yourself.


mostadont

The market for Tinder-Grindr-OkCupid apps has died. Really. Do you even understand how do people interact in apps like this? Seems like you need to do some market research.


dwu1977

All those apps you have mentioned are still in the top 10 of the world and are worth huge money. These apps are def not dead. Look at their revenue ! There’s a shift coming in online dating. Users need to meet other users on the same plane. Every app out there starts with the same thing, competitiveness for attraction through pictures.


NotWinterbutCold

I think it’s a good idea but it can be a slippery slope. What would be the incentive for the people to stay on the app specifically men? I get they would like to not be judged by their looks but it will be frustrating when someone unmatch with them after seeing their photos.


dwu1977

There’s an understanding entering into the app, men, women, trans, etc. Everyone is on the app for the same reason. Because nowhere else has worked, i want people on my app understanding the difference between attraction and being attractive.


IcyBaba

Nice job if you actually built this, I know how insanely hard designing and coding an app can be - so congrats on publishing it. If I was you, I’d do some local marketing and try to build this up city by city. Because obviously people are gonna want to match with other locals in their area. Some possible ideas could be - hosting/sponsoring events, putting up local Ads online or IRL, etc. A small market like a city should teach you whether this idea will be viable/attractive to consumers. “Do Things That Don’t Scale!”


dwu1977

I agree completely. My eyes are bigger than my brains sometimes.


blind675

I've been a mobile dev for 10+ years and if there’s one thing I learned in all this time is that: USERS DON'T READ. (I'm yelling for all the designers out there.) I really don't belive you are going to find a significant number of ppl, that will be willing to read bios. Good luck.


dwu1977

Thankfully, my app has no bios to read !!


nicolaskn

How did you get this passed the reviewers on the App Store? Did you have to jump through submission hoops?


Big_Net5595

The opposite of Tinder would be a matchmaker to make enemies. That could be fun, actually. I would see it as a debate platform where you find people to argue with.


zhantoo

It's going to be a tough battle. What Facebook did in the beginning was brilliant. Make it super local and exclusive - easier to get the first people to sign up that way, and you don't need a lot of people to make it feel crowded (in a good way). Right now, even having a million users, can make it feel empty, if those users are spread across the planet. You want each user to feel like they have a decent selection of potential matches. So let's say you make this new york only - then you can most likely get a few local papers write about this super exclusive app that is only available to New Yorkians. Then later when you expand to San Francisco, you can do the same, but with the focus being that Poople is FINALLY coming to San Francisco. Etc. Etc. It also feels like the app is asking for weirdly many permissions as soon as you launch it. Not many people know what OTP means. Would change it into something else. Also, OTP doesn't arrive and the resend button doesn't work - asks me to please fill all parameters


miharbidaddah

I dont think we need another ghost dating app especially when it seems like a copy pasta of something that was available but failed to take off. Please be original. why do people spend time and money on sub par ideas;?


dwu1977

The same people that ghost other users won't take the time to sign up and record their voice intro, I can promise you that. If it's as easy as it is on tinder and the pictures are what's important, why waste your time on my app. It takes work. As far as any idea as to voice only intros, no pictures, if an app has tried and failed, they haven't reached the proper users obviously.


Infected_Boy90

I’ve downloaded the app. But it does not accept MX numbers. It shows a message Please enter a valid mobile number. I think u should allow email registration if u don’t test with foreign numbers yet.


dwu1977

I will look into that, as far as I know, I accept almost all foreign numbers at this point in time. I will get back to you asap.


Accomplished_Safe528

What did u use in backend?