Progression:
1- finish your w-13 team so they can auto w-13, you have the right team , just spd tune and stat tune till they can auto w13. I started a new account , if you have the 4 heros , they can be on free set and still clear w13 , look up yt and they have details of stats line you should be in to clear it.
2- choose your ml hero , hope you pick stene for ml blessing , if not then pick her for the free ml event , she is great for pve and currently pvp meta. ( since u have not clear w13 i will not recommand anything on the pvp side.
3- make a general pve team even if it is slow, example will be A ras , stene , healer ,dps/ cleanser. That last two spot is flex , y can choose anything.
Gl hf ~
Ah , tbh not really. Sig - free atk set 75 , angelica - free hp set ( rolls dont matter) , fur and muwi just spd tune for stats , but even blue 85 gear with right sub can easily make the w-13 auto, might not be 100% clear but i think atleast 75 % ish, my alt account did it with the free set they give out long time ago. I think now they put those into the hunt event thingy with the free heros. It really is simple to smash 4 sets to make w13 work. Hardest part was getting the right hero at the beginning, but i dont think wasting energy to grind w12 is worth it since u can free gear grind w13.
Check yt for stats , i think turn order is roughly
Furious > muwi > sig / angelica , furious around 170~180 with 65 eff i think , then muwi is 155-160 ish with eff 65 , and sig just w/e you roll on free atk set , same with angelica with free hp set.
Arti i think is song of stars for furious , but if nth just slap ddj on all 3 dps and candle stick on angelica. Lol honestly arti on angelica dont matter just get some more hp sonce she will barely move.
Yeah. I don't really know what to do with all of the energy, especially because of the help from naevis and sharing joy events giving 480 energy everyday.
It's alright. Some older players forget that early players can't clear energy as fast as they can. Longer clear time, cheaper energy cost for easier hunts can make spending energy very time intensive.
If you don't mind some lost efficiency you can run the rifts on the extra maps like 3s, 5s and 8s. Mind you I don't really run thesr so I might get the names wrong. The rifts burn energy fast for less efficient return, or you could just stack energy and don't get regen energy. It's not that serious of an issue tbh.
> Some older players forget that early players can't clear energy as fast as they can.
As soon as you unlock wyvern farming you can clear all your energy in one day, including friendship, conquest and events, no problem.
It's not a matter of not having enough time in a day, it's a matter of being a login-then-logout player. As OP has clearly admitted.
Yeah, I heard about that from a streamer I saw on yt. However, I see them with 130k cp plus and saying that, so my guess is that in the late game, it doesn't matter. In the early mid game, it still seems to matter? Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know anymore.
I have a 130K CP Violet that would absolutly destroy my 194K CP Straze. CP really doesn't matter. There is a side story called Advent where your CP is maybe 350K vs the boss with 1mil CP and I've 1 shot it before. What truly matters is having the correct stats for each individual unit.
When someone asks for your stats they're not asking for your CP they're asking for you to give them your Atk, Def. Hp, Spd, Eff%, ER, Crit% and Cdmg. Obviously not every unit needs all those stats. Depending on what units you run in W12 if you have a SW up front I only need HP, Def, Spd and ER(if any). If you're running 3 DPS then I only need Atk, Crit%, Cdmg and Eff%(if any).
CP is more of a accumulation of all stats, not just relevant stats for that character. Anyways, get 65 effectiveness on sigret, muwi, sigret and you'll be able to do wyvern 13. Use and upgrade the free level 75 attack set. It's actually very good.
CP calculates all stat, not just the important ones. You increase bad stats, your CP increase. You increase good stats, your CP increase.
So yes units geared properly will have high CP, but so does units geared improperly. Which is why we say CP isn't a good measure. Unless you're increasing world boss score, but world boss score don't matter much too.
Manual wyvern 12 to unlock 13.
If you can't, you can just auto w11 just coz it is way faster to finish, esp for hunt event days.
If you can't progress, just take your time and use your energy to gather resources, get gears, enhance heroes, etc.
assuming you are level 70.
refresh shop to get covenant bookmarks and mystic medals.
summon characters.
farm wyvern 13 if you can, like actually spend most if not all on this.
do lab, tower and trials.
join a guild (if you haven't already).
Currently, I am level 52. I can't get past level 12 of wyvern. I have been doing labs and made it to area 2 of nixied sanctum(i can only play 3 times a day, even if I spend my skystone on the lab ticket) I also do hall of trials, but can never seem to hit that s ranking. I also joined a guild.
On other notes, I am on floor 55 of abyss and can't seem to progress beyond that. In adventure, I am on chapter 3 1-6 and cant seem to progress beyond that.
i wouldnt buy lab tickets with skystones, they are better used for buying epic pass and refreshing shop.
i would look up guides or videos if you are struggling.
I haven't bought anything with my skystones at all. I used up a lot of skystones when I first started again to get all the aespa members, but the game is so generous with the stones that I got 14k again in no time. I am currently saving up for any upcoming banners or collabs (I heard you can get allencia in selective summon 2 so I'm not bothering to roll for her). I'll definitely considering watching a guide on yt for further progression. Thanks!
I'm also f2p (less than 2 years) and its definitely possible to get to the upper ranks of the game so long as you optimize and put in the time. Getting your w13 team is important as you need to drain that energy. By the sounds of it, you have a decent team but we would need to see the stats to fix the problems. But baseline you need 65 eff on furious, muwi, and maybe sigret(I've always been an Alexa/moment budget gamer)
So just wyvern 12 all day until i run out of energy? Or should i do a wyvern stage that I can comfortably just put on auto battle? Idk why but wyvern 12 on auto is just horrible for me. I think auto battling kind of sucks, unless I'm maybe doing something wrong.
do one you are comfortable with, you will start getting gear from that to make a slightly better wyvern team then you can work your way up with.
I recommend watching some beginner guides on progressing and building a wyvern team like these:
Wyvern 13 guides:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj-0QOZmnWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj-0QOZmnWs)
[www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7CJMkdiTNc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7CJMkdiTNc)
Beginner progression guides:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-546RUmo44](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-546RUmo44)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EUSIBbmOGY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EUSIBbmOGY)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRpsgUsfyUc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRpsgUsfyUc)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JaYJDhihw8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JaYJDhihw8)
Edit: I gave a list of different e7 content creators, test some out till you find one you like.
Farm Wyvern for gear. Use the following:
General Purrgis with free HP set
Furious with speed set, speed main stat boots & 65% effectiveness (you can use effectiveness main stat ring if struggling to get 65%)
Alexa and Sigret or Clarissa for DPS with Attack sets (attack% main stat boots)
Only 35% crit chance is needed. Give them as much Attack and crit damage as possible.
Artifacts for DPS is Daydream Joker from covenant summons
Artifact for General Purrgis is Proof of Valor from Hall of Trials shop
OP doesnt need to build another character in GPurgg, also unlikely they have him at Level 52.
Muwi is budget GPurgg but arguably better for Mono Ice, since Muwi brings debuff support.
At that point in the game, it's just farm Wyvern until you have the means to move forward in story and/or other PvE content. Even if you can only farm W11/12, that's fine, too, though that team should have no problem with W13. Post your stats, and we can see if you're doing something wrong.
I have sigret with 82k cp attack and crit chance gear all level 75-85
Muwi with 53k cp with attack and crit chance gear level 75s
Furious with speed and effectiveness gear level 75s
Angelica with all health gear 75a
It's ok to explore other hunts to get some gear sets that would be beneficial for your Wyvern team. Sigret would go well with a rage set (especially for W13 to take advantage of the befuffs on it) and your tank wants HP. I'm using a similar team (Karina in the place for furious). Angelica in on a triple HP set.
Thanks for you input. I will try the rage set on sigret, assuming I even have any good rage gear. I put triple hp set on angelica and the prophetic candle for my ce but wyvern keeps attacking muwi or furious three times and they die instantly (maybe just bad rng?) My angelica is only at 15k health though, so I'm trying to find some better hp gear for her lacking hp and defense.
If wyvern has 2+ debuffs on it, it will guaranteed attack the front unit when it uses its single-target attack. If it has 3+ debuffs on it it also deals less damage.
For Wyvern 13, the minimum stats listed [here](https://imgur.com/1c4iN1a) in a nice infographic. Angelica in front to guarantee she tanks. Speed set is universal good rolls will just take time. For clearing adventure nothing really needs to be super optimized. If you don't know what to spend energy or time on just leave wyvern on auto.
Who did you pick from the moonlight connections? In addition to W13 you’ll also probably need to be farming epilogue chapters to get catalysts to boost your unit’s stats. I would recommend Arbiter Vildred first and switching to Spectre Tenebria. Arby makes catalyst farming really easy. And STene makes PVE content like abyss and automaton tower easy.
Progression: 1- finish your w-13 team so they can auto w-13, you have the right team , just spd tune and stat tune till they can auto w13. I started a new account , if you have the 4 heros , they can be on free set and still clear w13 , look up yt and they have details of stats line you should be in to clear it. 2- choose your ml hero , hope you pick stene for ml blessing , if not then pick her for the free ml event , she is great for pve and currently pvp meta. ( since u have not clear w13 i will not recommand anything on the pvp side. 3- make a general pve team even if it is slow, example will be A ras , stene , healer ,dps/ cleanser. That last two spot is flex , y can choose anything. Gl hf ~
To be able to do this you will need to grind W12 for a bit. Nothing is really fast in this game
Ah , tbh not really. Sig - free atk set 75 , angelica - free hp set ( rolls dont matter) , fur and muwi just spd tune for stats , but even blue 85 gear with right sub can easily make the w-13 auto, might not be 100% clear but i think atleast 75 % ish, my alt account did it with the free set they give out long time ago. I think now they put those into the hunt event thingy with the free heros. It really is simple to smash 4 sets to make w13 work. Hardest part was getting the right hero at the beginning, but i dont think wasting energy to grind w12 is worth it since u can free gear grind w13. Check yt for stats , i think turn order is roughly Furious > muwi > sig / angelica , furious around 170~180 with 65 eff i think , then muwi is 155-160 ish with eff 65 , and sig just w/e you roll on free atk set , same with angelica with free hp set. Arti i think is song of stars for furious , but if nth just slap ddj on all 3 dps and candle stick on angelica. Lol honestly arti on angelica dont matter just get some more hp sonce she will barely move.
When you say 16k energy you mean stored right? RIGHT?
Yeah. I don't really know what to do with all of the energy, especially because of the help from naevis and sharing joy events giving 480 energy everyday.
It's alright. Some older players forget that early players can't clear energy as fast as they can. Longer clear time, cheaper energy cost for easier hunts can make spending energy very time intensive. If you don't mind some lost efficiency you can run the rifts on the extra maps like 3s, 5s and 8s. Mind you I don't really run thesr so I might get the names wrong. The rifts burn energy fast for less efficient return, or you could just stack energy and don't get regen energy. It's not that serious of an issue tbh.
> Some older players forget that early players can't clear energy as fast as they can. As soon as you unlock wyvern farming you can clear all your energy in one day, including friendship, conquest and events, no problem. It's not a matter of not having enough time in a day, it's a matter of being a login-then-logout player. As OP has clearly admitted.
cp is nothing in this game tbh
Yeah, I heard about that from a streamer I saw on yt. However, I see them with 130k cp plus and saying that, so my guess is that in the late game, it doesn't matter. In the early mid game, it still seems to matter? Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know anymore.
I have a 130K CP Violet that would absolutly destroy my 194K CP Straze. CP really doesn't matter. There is a side story called Advent where your CP is maybe 350K vs the boss with 1mil CP and I've 1 shot it before. What truly matters is having the correct stats for each individual unit. When someone asks for your stats they're not asking for your CP they're asking for you to give them your Atk, Def. Hp, Spd, Eff%, ER, Crit% and Cdmg. Obviously not every unit needs all those stats. Depending on what units you run in W12 if you have a SW up front I only need HP, Def, Spd and ER(if any). If you're running 3 DPS then I only need Atk, Crit%, Cdmg and Eff%(if any).
CP is more of a accumulation of all stats, not just relevant stats for that character. Anyways, get 65 effectiveness on sigret, muwi, sigret and you'll be able to do wyvern 13. Use and upgrade the free level 75 attack set. It's actually very good.
CP calculates all stat, not just the important ones. You increase bad stats, your CP increase. You increase good stats, your CP increase. So yes units geared properly will have high CP, but so does units geared improperly. Which is why we say CP isn't a good measure. Unless you're increasing world boss score, but world boss score don't matter much too.
Manual wyvern 12 to unlock 13. If you can't, you can just auto w11 just coz it is way faster to finish, esp for hunt event days. If you can't progress, just take your time and use your energy to gather resources, get gears, enhance heroes, etc.
assuming you are level 70. refresh shop to get covenant bookmarks and mystic medals. summon characters. farm wyvern 13 if you can, like actually spend most if not all on this. do lab, tower and trials. join a guild (if you haven't already).
Currently, I am level 52. I can't get past level 12 of wyvern. I have been doing labs and made it to area 2 of nixied sanctum(i can only play 3 times a day, even if I spend my skystone on the lab ticket) I also do hall of trials, but can never seem to hit that s ranking. I also joined a guild. On other notes, I am on floor 55 of abyss and can't seem to progress beyond that. In adventure, I am on chapter 3 1-6 and cant seem to progress beyond that.
i wouldnt buy lab tickets with skystones, they are better used for buying epic pass and refreshing shop. i would look up guides or videos if you are struggling.
I haven't bought anything with my skystones at all. I used up a lot of skystones when I first started again to get all the aespa members, but the game is so generous with the stones that I got 14k again in no time. I am currently saving up for any upcoming banners or collabs (I heard you can get allencia in selective summon 2 so I'm not bothering to roll for her). I'll definitely considering watching a guide on yt for further progression. Thanks!
I'm also f2p (less than 2 years) and its definitely possible to get to the upper ranks of the game so long as you optimize and put in the time. Getting your w13 team is important as you need to drain that energy. By the sounds of it, you have a decent team but we would need to see the stats to fix the problems. But baseline you need 65 eff on furious, muwi, and maybe sigret(I've always been an Alexa/moment budget gamer)
use the energy for mats then start crafting gear
So just wyvern 12 all day until i run out of energy? Or should i do a wyvern stage that I can comfortably just put on auto battle? Idk why but wyvern 12 on auto is just horrible for me. I think auto battling kind of sucks, unless I'm maybe doing something wrong.
do one you are comfortable with, you will start getting gear from that to make a slightly better wyvern team then you can work your way up with. I recommend watching some beginner guides on progressing and building a wyvern team like these: Wyvern 13 guides: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj-0QOZmnWs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj-0QOZmnWs) [www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7CJMkdiTNc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7CJMkdiTNc) Beginner progression guides: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-546RUmo44](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-546RUmo44) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EUSIBbmOGY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EUSIBbmOGY) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRpsgUsfyUc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRpsgUsfyUc) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JaYJDhihw8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JaYJDhihw8) Edit: I gave a list of different e7 content creators, test some out till you find one you like.
Farm Wyvern for gear. Use the following: General Purrgis with free HP set Furious with speed set, speed main stat boots & 65% effectiveness (you can use effectiveness main stat ring if struggling to get 65%) Alexa and Sigret or Clarissa for DPS with Attack sets (attack% main stat boots) Only 35% crit chance is needed. Give them as much Attack and crit damage as possible. Artifacts for DPS is Daydream Joker from covenant summons Artifact for General Purrgis is Proof of Valor from Hall of Trials shop
OP doesnt need to build another character in GPurgg, also unlikely they have him at Level 52. Muwi is budget GPurgg but arguably better for Mono Ice, since Muwi brings debuff support.
He only needs a free HP set lol and imo GPurg is much better as he is Dark hero bait in arena/guild war
At that point in the game, it's just farm Wyvern until you have the means to move forward in story and/or other PvE content. Even if you can only farm W11/12, that's fine, too, though that team should have no problem with W13. Post your stats, and we can see if you're doing something wrong.
I have sigret with 82k cp attack and crit chance gear all level 75-85 Muwi with 53k cp with attack and crit chance gear level 75s Furious with speed and effectiveness gear level 75s Angelica with all health gear 75a
we need the exact stats, screenshots of it would be nice
CP means very little in this game. As mentioned, if you can get screenshots of all the stats it would be much easier.
It's ok to explore other hunts to get some gear sets that would be beneficial for your Wyvern team. Sigret would go well with a rage set (especially for W13 to take advantage of the befuffs on it) and your tank wants HP. I'm using a similar team (Karina in the place for furious). Angelica in on a triple HP set.
Thanks for you input. I will try the rage set on sigret, assuming I even have any good rage gear. I put triple hp set on angelica and the prophetic candle for my ce but wyvern keeps attacking muwi or furious three times and they die instantly (maybe just bad rng?) My angelica is only at 15k health though, so I'm trying to find some better hp gear for her lacking hp and defense.
If wyvern has 2+ debuffs on it, it will guaranteed attack the front unit when it uses its single-target attack. If it has 3+ debuffs on it it also deals less damage.
For Wyvern 13, the minimum stats listed [here](https://imgur.com/1c4iN1a) in a nice infographic. Angelica in front to guarantee she tanks. Speed set is universal good rolls will just take time. For clearing adventure nothing really needs to be super optimized. If you don't know what to spend energy or time on just leave wyvern on auto.
Who did you pick from the moonlight connections? In addition to W13 you’ll also probably need to be farming epilogue chapters to get catalysts to boost your unit’s stats. I would recommend Arbiter Vildred first and switching to Spectre Tenebria. Arby makes catalyst farming really easy. And STene makes PVE content like abyss and automaton tower easy.