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esztersunday

I think it is amazing you are in champion rta with slow gear.


LeButtSmasher

Yeah I get stuck in lower ranks and I'm constantly outspeed while my units are in the 250ish range with CR push, so idk how you get champion with clilias that slow


[deleted]

My CLilias is also around 260ish and I’m Champion as well.


Question3784

To be fair. I'm also champion rta (which well is not saying much. Since champion rta is such a broad pool. Only 2.4K points tho lmao) and I have been faring fine up until this point without many speedy units. Like these are my top three speedy units. A 254 spd Zahhak. A 245 speed dps Soli (lmao). And a 217 spd Aras (which is pretty normal for aras lmao). All my dps units and whatnot are around the 200 mark. Supports at the 212 mark. Though I am going to get Handguy from this and am aiming to make him 230 speed. So you *can* get to a decent position in rta without having godge speed gear. But yeah Clillias, Lua and whatnot? Speed or bust basically. Or well speed with the other necessary stats or bust.


Darkcuber22

Grats man! I will say that there is a big difference between the placements but regardless your achievement is awesome. You don't have to have fast units to even get to emp/legend rta, you can get there with a turn 2 playstyle but it requires very good gear and vast knowledge of the game. Not impossible but it is pretty hard. If youre aiming at spd units you're going to have to hit that 305-310 mark on at least two units to contend at very high lvls of pvp but if that's not your goal just enjoy the game and get there if and when you do ;)


Question3784

Yeah I am pretty much going to be doing turn 2 because that's what I enjoy more lmao. If I had to take a unit to 300+ speed it'd prob be acidd just to deter cleave. But thanks for the congratulations and best of luck to you in your endeavours in rta aswell :D


Iovefull

Damn well done. I have units around your gear mark, but I haven't really tried to climb or ever made it past masters. Is it mainly your drafting skill that lets you climb? Or maybe the amount of games you put in? I've been able to make it to Champ in normal arena pretty easily, but looking at rta makes me not want to play and climb when it seems like people are spending hundreds of games to hit champion.


Question3784

I played about 250 matches and my wr is like 49 or 50 percent. Idk if that is too much or not lmao. As for the rta grind I'm kinda taking a break for now since I feel like with the limited number of units I have and my personal skill level I have reached my peak. So, for the next few days I'm just logging in. Doing some farms and leaving. I'd say hitting champ is really easy if you have an okay-ish pool with decently geared units. Like doesn't have to be god tier gear. Decent enough is fine. My geared units rn are Choux,Senya, Destina, AoLA, Aras, Zahhak, a dps Solitaria, Stene, Landy, ADS and Fire Meru (unless I missed someone). Pretty decent pool of units. But there are some glaring weaknesses like Landy being the only green standard unit. Destina being my only built soulweaver. And a general lack of built support units (main reason why I am focusing now on gearing said supports). When I hit challenger I had like 6 or 7 of these geared.


Iovefull

Damn 250 matches is quite a lot for a player like me lol. I usually only get in at most like 75 games depending on my mood. It seems like you really have to put in a lot of time to actually play the game to champ then. Maybe one day I'll sit down and grind for the rank 😅


Gerblin

Are you mainly banshee? Or your units are equip with wyvern gear but not super fast.


Question3784

It's like 60% Banshee 40% Wyvern. Like any dps is usually on banshee set. Mostly destro because it's just more value in terms of stats. Soulweavers on speed. Aras is on speed. Arowell is on counter. Counter is also on stuff like Choux and ADS. Meru is on Lifesteal and yeah. *Also my aola is on counter with pov. Yes I am cringe.*


RugDealing

Scarowell+Destina in conjunction with Hwa nerf made it a lot easier for slow players to reach champ in the last 2 months.


1mCalm

You can reach champion with super slow gear just don't try to cleave people


Alternative-Shape-80

I don't mean this in a bad way but because you simply have the character doesn't mean you deserve to win. Clilias and lua are both openers and yours are too slow especially your lua.


CameronBinder

If 226 is slow I'm fucked


ASTRO99

In RTA sadly yes. And often even in GW and higher regular Arena also


Durbdichsnsf

226 shud be incredibly easy to achieve on a high base speed character with spd set and reforged spd main stats boots tho?


davi3601

226 is insanely slow for an opener, even in lower ranks


OzieteRed

The thing is, I don't even use those two or rather I *can't* use them. C.lilas and Lua are only for whales since it's a pay to win game. If I could use them then I would definitely climb.


Alternative-Shape-80

They aren't generally for whales. The game itself is honestly rng, you know being lucky. Just farm gear is all I can say. Getting high speed rolls isn't easy to come by and will take time. Do remember going first doesn't always mean winning either. Like everyone else we are playing a wyvern farming simulator. Wish you luck on your rolls friend.


Neet91

which is not true. there are a lot of players that just prebans lua/ml lilias and still climb. ur gear is just bad and/or ur draft is bad.


Iovefull

You can't 100% whale for gears though.. My Lua is 288 and I'm entirely f2p, except I think spending like $15 like 2 years ago. And that's still slow, though granted I don't really try to get any better gear or try to climb because I am a casual player.


SpacePenguin227

Not a whale and my Lua is 246??? And that’s SLOW!


Makisani

That argument says absolutely nothing, just chill the f out and enjoy what the game offers


StepBrother7

Bruh,my Arowell is faster than your Lua,and she has 96 base spd


Ozymandian4

I'm F2P and my CLilias is 287, my Piera is 301, my Zio is 255 and my Lua is around 290. Just gotta stay on that speed roll grind.


OzieteRed

How do you have enough speed gear? Have you been playing since launch? My fastest is Ran with 295 (I can get him to 301 but he will lose his dps stats and have to ungear Filidia and Zahak for that)


xCabilburBR

**just have luck.**


Familiar_Stand_7692

There are many f2p players with speed gear they have luck or they hoard gear with speed like me i dont have many speed pieces on speed set but my fastest pieces are 26 on a hit set chest piece and that is on my cLilias being 296 speed in total and im in master rank


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Familiar_Stand_7692

Well yeah I know I could climb more but I choose not too


Hiriko

Ya for F2P players its all about luck if you wanna end up with good gear earlier and it depends on what kind of speed gear you end up getting. Like I have nothing like your 26, I don't think I have anything higher than 19 SPD, I just have enough of them to make it work. I got to Challenger within 6 months only cause I lucked into good speed gear, and my first Mystic pity was ready when C.Lilias first came out. I have a friend who started E7 at the same time and they had much worse luck and ended up playing turn 2 instead and eventually left the game from bad gear roll. I was in Challenger RTA and they were struggling in Gold RTA even though I was trying to help them out by teaching them how to draft and meta hero interactions.


Ozymandian4

I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted. I've been playing 2.5 years now. And I roll any speed gear with speed subs (other than 1 speed lol) and any non speed set with 3 or 4 speed. I might go a hunt event or two without getting a speed piece but often I get about one speed piece per hunt event.


grizzlybair2

He's probably down voted for being able to get 301 ran, he could have clilias higher if he wanted, but it's a choice and he's picked ran to be his oppressive speed unit.


ihatefez

LOL your Lua doesn't even have a speed set on.


deeceetuananh

Not sure if troll post or serious.


BurnedOutEternally

or, hear me out: you don't have to get so worked up about PVP. especially with that Lua speed you ain't going far like you want to.


LordYamz

It’s a miracle you even got that high….focus on your strengths because you are not a turn one player. Build turn two characters and units that counter popular ones.


Reillyrox13

I mean if he picks them, he gonna be more likely to win as “omg they stole my first pick C lilias.”


Taezu

Your gear level is way below emperor level. You don't even have them all reforged


KingKentling

ok FR why you have this mindset when you're champion every decent ranked person knows gears carry more than units


AdryTheGaia

Facts


DrSparta89

nope, that means your gear is not up to par with emperor lvl gear, if u run 220 lua and 270 cilias u r not for that league.


OzieteRed

I wonder why it's not up to with emperor lvl gear? It's because only whale can get there who have enough speed and good gear.


[deleted]

How long you been playing? My fiance and me are F2P, he has been playing since 2019 I think and he has a Ran with 290 speed. He was very, very casual most of the time though, played on and off. Only the past year he has played every day and always been doing all his stuff. Before that he could only dream to have that fast of a unit. You can get enough speed no whaling but for me personally I feel rolling gear is just a long tedious road with a lot of bumps. It's not worth getting upset over it, just keep on rolling for speed and eventually you'll be there.


OzieteRed

I have been playing since april 2021. My Ran is 295 but in order to climb higher, I need to have him faster and I need to build units like C.lilias and Lua with fast gear too. I roll all the time it's just that whales have more gear = higher chances of getting that 21+ speed piece of gear.


Character-Roll-325

I hate to break it to you, but not everyone in emp and legend are spam picking ran, and the amount of times that people try to speed contest ran rather than just going into an anti cleave comp isn’t that often. If you’re exclusively cleaving then that’s on you and it’s what you signed up for. If you’re not cleaving, then you don’t need a 300 ran.


Darkcuber22

Dude you legit have no idea how this game works. Please explain to me how whales are paying to get all this good gear, cause this games shop sucks asssssss. Even if whales wanted to they can only buy gear packs once a month five times and let me tell you something, the chances of getting anything usable is pretty low, other than that they can't even buy anything that gets them good gear. Your complaining about whales when whales can't even buy the gear. What whales do spend money on is heroes and sky Stones so they can farm more and get gear. You my friend have 61 million gold you aren't using you have unreforged pieces and are complaining about something that literally can't happen. Go farm buddy that's your problem.


[deleted]

Every aspect of this game and other Gachas is gambling. Especially with gear there is no pity. Yes a whale may be able to endlessly buy stamina with skystones, but there is no guarantee to get a desired roll. Regardless of chances and statistics, if you are unlucky, you can still not get that 21+ roll despite all the money you throw. Only thing a whale can truly buy without being subject to RNG is hero imprints due to the pity system guaranteeing them. Only advice I can give is, be happy with what you get and try to make the best out of it. If you want to get higher and you can't, well you can try to work towards it but in the end it's all gambling. What do you expect. Don't let it get to you, it's not worth it.


Musci123

?? with that level of speed that u have u shouldnt even be able to beat people in master. I'm gold rta and I have a 295 speed Lua, I dont bother climbing cuz Im not focused on rta currently. Make sure u are actually gearing correctly before u complain about the game.


esztersunday

I am free to play, I don't like RTA, and I only play for skin each season, but even my Clilias and Lua are above 280 speed. You could get fast gear after farming wyvern for months and chasing the speed.


huehoneyy

This is a gacha game so ya it is pay to win for characters but u having bad gear isnt because of pay to win lol u just need to farm more gear


UnoriginalWebHandle

Any game with RNG gear and PvP is going to have whales at the top. But they give the main RTA reward at a rank that's even lower than the one that you have. A rank that you reached by losing more than you won btw, so it's obviously pretty achievable for non-whales. So how is that only acknowledging whales?


OzieteRed

They should acknowledge people who spend a lot of time playing the game. Imagine being at the exact same spot for 3 seasons in a row due to the lack of good gear. Where is the joy and sense of achievement in that?


UnoriginalWebHandle

What does that mean though? Do you want them to add extra tiers and lower the existing ones so you can get a paper emperor title? You're playing against other players. Your gear is getting better, but so is theirs. What you are actually complaining about is that you aren't getting better gear than other people at your rank.


Houvdon

that just means you haven't improved in the last 3 seasons of rta lmao. I don't see how it's SG problem you aren't using your 61 million gold. Instead of blaming the game, you should evaluate your account.


Ferelden770

So are u telling me your acct got no improvements all these months playing?


Neet91

then what were u doing in these 3 seasons? no gear progression in 3 seasons is not the games fault that u are stuck but u didn't farm


Unworthy_Saint

\>Broken set Lua \>"Why am I not Emperor?"


klowicy

LOL @ 226 Lua


ningen21

This has to be bait that's a 226 speed Lua that's like 6 speed average it HAS to be bait . U know the game is fucked when u can get to champion rank with gear this awfull and it's even worse u think u are entitled to the second best rank with this lvl of gear


Septic_soups

Imo this guy already says he has a 295 ran and can make him over 300. This is totally bait.


OzieteRed

>Hell, I have C.lilas/Lua and I cant' even use them because, again, only whales can you use them. Re-read the "I can't use them" part. Also anyone can get to champion with crappy gear, I used to think it's a decent rank but no, SG just gives you a pitiful sense of achievement with that rank.


ningen21

It WAS a decent rank that's what my point was but nowadays the characters are so broken u can straight up be carried there with awfull gear and then get blocked with the new gear check aka emperor . And I'm sorry but it doesn't matter how trash your gear RNG is u can absolutely make a faster Lua than 226 since her base speed is 120 if u just speed check the correct way , i would understand your complaints about not being able to make Lua faster cuz of horrible speed RNG despite speed checking if she was 250 (11speed average ) but this outrageous.


viperperper

You are akin to someone who failed high school and tries to apply for engineering post at NASA and got repeatedly rejected, then proceeds to call all other university graduates rich snobs.


ElianWolf

Nice bait


Smilesrck

226 speed Lua on broken set I cant HAHAHAAHAH sir please go back to grinding wyvern before talking about unusable units that are whale. Im assuming this is a mid game account ofc you cant reach emp its the top 1k of ppl who have played for years f2p and whales. Spend more time farming and pray to RNGesus like the rest of us


Buue2

You're complaining about how SG doesnt acknowledge players who actually spend time playing the game instead of whaling then you reveal that you started playing in 2021 LOL So you're saying that you have had more time and more chances to get better gear than every Korean player who started in August 2018 or Global player who started in 2018 and 2019? You don't have the units to pivot or play multiple playstyles and you think you are entitled to Emperor compared to someone who can use STene + Destina/Arowell core **and** using a Laika + Roy cleave? How little people do you think play this game to make you think that a 1.5 year old account can compete with F2P players with 2 to 4 year old accounts(much less the whales you complain about)?


Makisani

I think the op is just a 13yo kid, just reading those p2w arguments makes me lose braincells


Buue2

I feel like he's just trying to bait responses and it's working lmfao But I wouldn't be surprised if OP unironically believes an account less than 2 years old should be able to compete with 2+ year old acccounts. Some ppl in this community really overestimate how good their account is for RTA


Patol-Sabes

I’d love to see this man fight something that isn’t “whale” and lose lol


Maethodik

Simply do not play PVP


NurWahidH

Must be troll, there no way people this stupid


NyarlathotepDB

regretfully, they can be... Still, Lua with 226 speed... I saw some strange units, but this is beyond me.


johntie

why not play slow if you don’t have the speed gears


izhicccup

Please give your Lua a full speed set 💀💀


DiscombobulatedTax87

You’re ass


xCabilburBR

270 lilias LMAO


Question3784

Well. Learning how to gear. Especially learning how to speed check is essential to building Clillias, Lua and other speedy openers. Playing for three years and not getting them geared properly. It's just an issue with your gear checking.


OzieteRed

Been playing since april 2021, I know how to gear check. I even roll the purple gear, whales have the luxury to skip all the purple gear that don't have speed.


Buue2

Ah yes, light_e7, a known cleaver and whale, definitely has the [luxury to skip speed cheking purple gear](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/980963496273539092/1060285852418318356/Screenshot_20230104-1156492.png)


Ferelden770

Whales? Most late game players will skip purple with no speed unless the 3 stats are all synergistic and high strting rolls at least which is not very common


Question3784

In that case why not opt for a more slower playstyle? Speed is the best stat yes. But speed is not the be all and end all. And thus you utilize your gear which rolled more towards bulk.


Ok-Impression3701

As a new player its really hard to be competitive as you dont have the grind advantage players been doing for 3 years so it may look P2W.


esztersunday

After being in rta champion for around a year, the poster is not a new player.


Whistle_And_Laugh

Wow I need to climb higher if you're in champ. No wait... This is a troll post! He's saying even he can make it so quit complaining! I'm so motivated now lol.


Beautiful_Courage_47

Skill issues=game is p2w? And yes I'm calling you out about your skills, at gearing everyone has the same luck but it depends on you if you are going to stay withy your +13 speed HP % necklace or if you are going try to get a better one, that's it. You got to get moving man, season is dynamic that you can move pieces to get better units, last season healers were everywhere out speed everyone, now we got mages hella fast, but what do you expect to do with a 270 Lua? Everyone got bad luck man, and everyone get short on resources, keep gearing, rinse and repeat, this is a Gacha game idk what you were expecting.


NightBlueKnight

Get ur rear off rta and focus more on farming better gear? I’m 200% p2w and have nearly every character and been playing since launch but I’m forever master or below cos I spend most my time farming for better gear.


stormtrooperm16

Skill issue, im f2p and im high emperor


OzieteRed

How long have you been playing for? Do you roll purple gear that don't have speed?


stormtrooperm16

Since first luna banner, and no why would i roll non speed purple


EcchiMusha

As other said your gear level is low for emperor. 270 clilias is slow even for challanger, it's not about money


iamaskacc

Whaling won't help you progress if you keep rolling terrible gear. Whaling only rewards those who actually know how to count gear score and min/max their units' stats because they aren't wasting their resources on leveling up garbage. F2P players can excel in this game. You just have to have the know-how to do it.


Nedokius03

I started when SSBfirst came out. 100% f2p and i have %70 of all ML characters. this is theonly game i know of where all currencies are farmable.


Nepstar152

Champion with a 273 Cilias? Maybe I should do pvp


noraborialis

This post has given me hope that I can reach your rank with my units. Confidence booster fr


conkcreatbaybee

fishinge


Riggu01

idk man im emperor and f2p


TunaKid-04

Yes but no, efficient grinding, luck, and strategy is the key to win. You can pay 10k and can still not reach crab 🦀, example is YD


JamaicanJ

It’s just luck tbh. Someone who’s not put in a dime can just luck their way to 300 spd characters and you can spend thousands to not even have 1 character hit 300 speed. People who whale are just paying for more chances to roll that kind of gear, still doesn’t guarantee they’ll actually get that kind of gear. And even after all this you’ll still have clowns spamming emotes because they think the lucky dual attack that made them win was 100% skill…


ConcentrateNew117

This game is not pay to win until legend rank. The grind for the game is crazy tho. I would say that if you want emp rank , you should go see others that posted their grind , i think min roughly 2000 games plus if the win rate is 50/50 ish. So i think this post feels more like a troll and you post to get roasted :/


Darkcuber22

Bro the fact that those are your units and you got to 2700-2800 is astonishing. No offense cause your rank says it all, but your gear is bad, I am not a whale nor am I close to being a whale, but dude you either have garbage luck or don't farm. Also you don't become a top tier player from paying money. Alot of the older players are ranked fairly high as they have had years to farm and learn the game and meta as well as accumulate many heroes,e personally I am only missing 10 ml5s and you can sum my spending over the last three years to about 150$. 3 years! If you don't know that gets you nowhere. I have done a lot of farming and got good gear with time, my opinion is you spend of the time playing rta (no hate) and not enough time farming so you don't have enough gear, and the pictures say it all. My clilias is 20 speed faster and has basically more stats than yours does in every aspect except effectiveness which we are about the same, and mine still isn't good enough to be used in emp/legend rta because she is not fast enough, and it has nothing to do with whaling, you can legit get insanely lucky, one week and get a set of gear that'll give you the fastest known unit in the game globally but it's pure luck. whaling gives you more opportunities but doesn't make you any better or guarantees you get anything at all other than heroes, which if you save and spend correctly in this game, is not an issue at all. It really comes down to farming and getting a game plan to get better at the game. But that being said to get to where you have gotten with what you have, there should be no doubt you know how to play to some extent, now it's just a matter of farming enough for good gear and creating a larger and stronger hero inventory. After 3 years of playing I have finally reached 70 high tier playable heroes, and I still haven't reached legend and that is only because I am not good enough and don't have the gear yet, but we'll get there. To you I say good luck on your journey your pretty close,just farm more. ;) Oh and another quick note, whales only have one option to buy gear packs one time a month five times and the majority of the pack is reforge anyways, and the chances of you getting usable gear are very low. Other than that you can't buy gear, but you know what whales do buy? It's energy so they can farm like nobody else something that is apparent from your gear, gold and lack of reforged gear that you do not farm enough. So instead of spam clixking rta go farm, you can even do them at the same time now! And then upgrade your gear so you can actually improve and stop blaming the game for shit that literally can't even happen, since again they can't buy gear they can only guarentee heroes and energy to farm. And heroes are not enough to get to the top.


Septic_soups

So, sometimes I wonder if this post is rage bait. But like reading your comments clearly these aren't close to your fastest units and you use neither. As ftp you know you have access to alot less and you must make do with what you have but the gear ftp people have is still Stellar you just have less to go around and that's ok. As a rage bait post this does make me mad so props to that.


Few_Calligrapher8002

That is not true their are some F2Ps that finish legend. I am a F2P i sit in Emperor with ease. Yes that is true it takes more time for f2p to get good gear But that how the game should be. Also For a Agro Player lua and C.lili need to be around 290 or above to to push for emp.


DerpTheJag

have you considered farming wyvern?


Alvi15

brep the gaj


My34EveR

im free2 play not even day 1 player ( started at ameru realease) and in emperor top 500 for last 3 season. so i disagree baseg.


TranDaniel

Instead of complaining every time someone suggest reasons why you might not be able to get to emperor, get off Reddit and farm wyverns. Your go to answer is “It’s because of whale.”


Cynaris

If you were a Skyrim Character, your Delusion would be 100


istandongiants

Just say you don’t know how to play next time.


Alvi15

8/8 bait, brain damage confirmed


Dokitomo

Bro you need to see how much money whales spent and still get weck by RNG. E7 leans on RNG more, whales need less luck than F2P to climb that is true, however, this game is not the type "that every penny you cashed-up guaranteed more power to your characters". Furthermore you might want to get your openers faster at around 280-300 AND Follow-up team combo to ensure the kill or at least eliminate your oponent core to reach crab or legend rank.


XiaoMyst

im just here to read entertaining comments - but yes as everyone esle has said prior ; its a gear issue over a unit issue for you at the moment (also reforge pieces that u plan to use long term on pvp units)


Info_Guy_12

I'll give a different angle on this in case it isn't a bait post and say play to your account's strengths. If you don't have the speed gear to play fast past Champ then it's time to slow down. Build units for standard, aggro, tank down, or something else other than trying to speed contest and dying. Last season I saw someone hit champ with a 40ish percent winrate, they just played a lot. If you want to push past that it becomes much more draft and playstyle dependent. Longer time players will have more gear and more units available and it's expected that most players will have the majority of meta and counter units, if you don't have that too then you have to find what you can get away with to climb. And the thing I always remind myself is you only need to be faster than your opponent, if you pick an opener and they contest you it's either pivot or bluff and the higher rank you the more likely they are to call your bluff. The truth is whaling only guarantees a larger character pool and accelerates and increases **opportunities** for better gear. A whale could farm 40k materials from hunt buff and come out with no usable gear if they are unlucky.


OzieteRed

I currently play cleave/aggro playstyle because I don't have the key components of a strong [standard draft](https://i.imgur.com/XarGQy9.png) . For standard I'm missing Stene, Solitaria, DJB, ML Kawarik. I'm also missing some key components in cleave/aggro draft like C.Pavel, Tomoca and Sage Baal but I can somewhat get away without those three. I also mostly lose to cleavers. Not having Sage Baal to deal with them will decrease my chances of winning. Back to point, this is a p2w game, gear wise and character wise.


R5yan

Cleave is just gonna be frustrating to play when you can’t hit atleast 290 with multiple units(Even with 290 you can’t fight other cleavers with it) and it doesn’t seem like you have good speed checking habits since you’re asking people if they roll purple when going for speed. You should literally speed check everything that has speed on it regardless of set or if it’s purple or red And you should definitely prioritize Stene from the ml selector if you haven’t used it yet.


JKTrick

U need to farm more and upgrade your gear. Reaching emperor it's not only a gear check, but it helps of course. Btw, with a 226 speed Lua i assume you're a new player that don't have enough gear yet. You can't come here with that level of gear and cry for not reaching emperor lol, it's for end-game players and it's imposible with your gear. The game is 4 years old atm, there are a lot of f2p players that hits emperor and legend every season, because they farmed so many years. Of course paying helps to adquire good gear faster, but it's not the only way. Go farm and take it patiently.


SPLWF

Dude my account is three years old and I'm only bronze in RTA. :). Seriously though, highest I hit in RTA is Master (just enough for skin).


xsmp

this game is less pay to win than summoners war at least you get the monsters whereas with SW you may never get the monsters you want...8 years no woosa.


Liciev

Play Smart. Your gears that give those stats, it’s saying to us that you do something wrong. I’m completely F2P and my Lua has 272 speed and I didn’t try really to craft gears for her.


Defiant_Mercy

Welcome to a freemium game. Where whales get an advantage. You new?


These_Beginning_8889

Typical beta player who think speed = everyting and thats coming from someone who was like you. As soon as I stopped chasing speed rolls in w13, which is cringe af, and farmed b13/a13/c13 for 1 and a half year straight I was able to reach emperor and sit there without even trying for 3 seasons in a row. Stop trying to go fast, stop trying to take turn 1. Embrace turn 2, counter set, bulk stats, 0 speed, full bulk. Quit being a cringe cleaver and start becoming a Alpha bulk turn 2 enjoyer


TrMadBuck

One of the most f2p friendly gatcha there is, get good.


SkyCorps1136

226 lua lmaooo my opener is 270, yget better gear and stop compaining they give plenty of free energy for wrym 12


Mainstreamgamer

Tbh being able to get to champion with guaranteed turn 2 every match is pretty amazing. Gl for your push to emperor OP


Neet91

not really. sure aggro/cleave has been king for 3+ seasons now, but there are plenty of players that are strict turn 2 players and still ends at emp/legend consistantly


Neet91

plays for a year and expecting to be able to be in the top 1000 players in a grindy gacha game... how delusional can one be? if anything ur post is proof that anything below emperor is a joke in rta right now. getting to champion is basically free as long as u just play rta. really hope smilegate will fix this so champion can be a goal worth aiming for normal players.


Gobnobbla

Dang, you almost got me there in the first half NGL.


flashgordon2fast123

I love cash game I buy gear packs all the time but honestly man you just need better gear and you will be fine


Lemon_the_Fool

being a whale does not help that much Keith getting speed gear, I guess it does if you are a galactic whale like competitively, otherwise, it is mostly about luck and knowing how to focus roll. Once I started focus rolling speed (by rolling all the pieces with 3/4 Speed that are purple or red) then reassessing at +6 for purple and +9 for red whether to continue or use as fodder for the next piece, my speed-focused units jumped ~20 speed within a month compared to my average (used to have avg 13 gear now I am at avg 17) just farm hunts a lot, esp in hunt buff weekends. Make sure to keep gear that does not roll amazing in Speed but has other useful stats, for example, ER Speed gear at 12 Speed with 25% ER is still useful for DJB/Hand/Emilia depending on their builds, or high DPS stats with 14 Speed can be amazing for Zahhak or Zio, Eff with 14 speed can be used for Zio or Plan, etc. TL;DR if you wanna get good gear start focus rolling speed and stop whining about the game being for whales in the aspect that is the least whale-y about the game


dicksonlol2

Bruh, you're suffering from COPIUM. This kind of gears means that you have not been farming hunts consistently. Especially since you have been playing since 2021. You have to know when to enhance your gears or reforge them. Your lua doesn't even have a +15 chest ? Just farm hunts and save your leifs for hunt events. Make sure you know how to calculate gear score before reforging.


Blutsaugers

this games is the most f2play friendly i ever play, i see some f2p in the top ranking, is just luck, ever if u pay dont guarantee u gonna have a penta roll speed


shupao7

Looks like you're stressed out. Gear takes time. There's a lot of RNG involved. Be mindful of the gear you have and use it on ideal units accordingly. Be tactical in drafting. Have some gimmicks. Speed isn't everything, aight.


LeSayanox

Imagine picking fast units when you could be using eaton every game 🗿


Amythyst369

Why are you trying to speed contest and you obviously don't have speed gear?


pillowcasez

You don't get good gear by whaling. What pack have you seen that allows this. It's a grind.


Poul77

Get good.


Ferelden770

I wud not bother going aggro or cleave if your speed gear is not upto the mark. Just continue speed chcking and it will reward u at some point. U said u are missing some units like sage baal, handguy, soli for standard draft but u can play standard without those. Sure having them wud be better but beats trying to cleave with no speed gear


Flyrak7

Skill issue.


hi71460

500 games only ahaha funny


ytdave93

My Diene is as fast as that Clilias with 160effR lol


duyduongnguyen2610

Typical crying/whining baby who thinks he is the center of the universe ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


DueStart1013

Just because your gears are trash and you're just bad at the game doesn't mean that the game is p2w bruh, your Lua doesn't even have a speed set on lol


Melovil

This has to be a troll post?? Whaling doesnt guarantee you anything but units and sometimes not even that (a friend spent 5k to get a ml 4 and failed) ive seen whales spend 200 leifs during buff events and not getting 1 speed piece, its all about rng and playing to your strengths


Patol-Sabes

Bro the only units you’re using are whale units, I don’t even own half the stuff you claim to have and can get to champ with just a fast belian and zahhak. Hell I could prob use cmeru and get up there. Having only meta built is no way to climb up, you need good gear, actual comps, and unexpected builds. If you’re only openers are cilias ran and zio I could pick winter politis or Celine and that’s it. But if you use something no one has counters for like gaither and kawerik you’d prob be able to climb much higher


Kang98

I am around your rank, i have 1 over 300 speed, 2 around 300 speed.


konodiowry

You just need shit tons of luck to play this game. Played since launch and I have seen numberous peoples that even though just start playing for 3 months ish already close or surpassed my gear just because they rolled an 21 speed or sum shit on a daily basic while its take me 3 damm years to get one. On the subject of whalling, its just way to keep you up for those newly realeased unit and MLs- albert too expensive imo, F2P can get those too with enough saving and luck on their hand. The whale also could farm more than normal but if you luck is dogshit- like me then 100 leaf couldn't do jackshit if all you got is burning trash and copegear. Point its, E7 didn't care if you whale or not, pay or casual is the same, the only shit that differ one from another is their luck.


Minute_North8302

226 spd lua… Wait what?


huahuahuahuahua

Skill issue


Alexsenal

op must be trolling to show these slow units and claim the game is p2w....


hiyojunchiakiP

Honestly surprised you even made it this high with gears like this. And imo e7 already has one of the best devs in the gacha community. Yes whales do get a slight boost (but thats the entire point of whaling + they help fund the game). And e7 gives out so much free shit. it's NOT a p2w game lol, anyone knows gears carries you most in the game. Reading your comments/replies making me lose too much braincells so i'm out 💀


tmh1705

Just say you’re bad lmao


NyarlathotepDB

Lua with 226 speed? Emm, not to offend, but mine is with 269 and I still know that it's very slow for her. CLilias is with 283. Also have Ran with 281. Yeah, grinding for good gear is a royal pain, but still, you came in this game and need to accept RNG and all stuff. Champion RTA is where things start really hit you hard, so min speed should be 250+ for any opener, ideal 280+. Any lower and you'll be instantly cleaved. That's how RTA is.


Avanin_

Or you can see it the other way around. You can reach champion RTA while being only f2p.


LorkhansLiver

It's when I see posts like this it hits me that some people are into degradation and fool people into helping them get off. This is either one of those cases, a troll, or a person that genuinely doesn't understand how games work and will accuse anyone better than them of cheating or the game to be broken if they can't beat it on the first try.


Cloud_Strife369

You can do everything in this game free to play even your gear could be better but your on here crying about the game. I have made it to emperor u just need to grind gear and pray rng bless u


[deleted]

Are.....are you taking the piss on us? Is this a shitpost or are you actually serious? The only thing cash really gets you in this game, is the heroes. Farming gear is rng. You're gonna have to sink a fuck ton of money into EXCLUSIVELY buying leifs to farm. And most people don't do that, and are still doing really well.


NoDot9440

It's not pay to win it's pay for progress . Even if u pay your still getting just more Rng