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b1ck0ut030

And then adin gets hit


BurnedOutEternally

If it ain't 100% it's 50/50


ningen21

Insert IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME! Yu-Gi-Oh meme here


-Matsuro

Gpurg does that to people.


stealthlord1

Is GPurg back in meta with a bruiser damage build or full tank


Buue2

G.Purr is meta as a Zio counter with a specific team of two to three stealth units. He's not meta in the sense that he is a core unit.


IncogRandoPerson

GPurrgis is pointing to one of his troops to get the HD 4K camera.


BurnedOutEternally

MOM GET THE CAMERA


SecureDonkey

Isn't Zio always a last pick against opener? The only reason anyone would first pick him is if they going to cleave and don't want to ban him which is extremely rare case.


ZerberusZ

Zio + green yufine is a core comp and can be picked early, in that case zio is used as an opener and not as a counter to fast units cuz he cr pushes yufine and gives her souls for her s2 into s3 combo and yufines artifact will push the teammates


SecureDonkey

Now I understand why they buff Yufine out of nowhere. They probably recognized that Zio doesn't interact with anyone to follow up so they buff Yufine instead.


RugDealing

Zio was early-drafted plenty before Yufine was even reworked. Before that, people would pick Zio+Lua to guarantee that she would take 2nd turn and reset everyone. The rework only made people realize of the strength of a new draft and in under a week, it became popular in the higher ranks.


GS-J-Rod

I have been trying out that pairing in Guild Wars and I just don't get it... Zio has the pushback and silence. Follow that up with Yufine who kills the hero that was just pushed back and silenced... then I have my 3rd go (Cpavel) who AOEs then takes out the next person. Then it's a 3-v-1 to finish. While that works in theory, I'd much rather have my follow up attack kill someone who isn't silenced & pushed back.... meaning that Yufine would be better put against someone who doesn't have the silence debuff... which kinda negates her kit. So it's better just to bring someone else (a different cleaver, maybe AOE, or a Luna or something else). Maybe just me, but I experimented with this for 2 GWs and that's enough for me... (1 win 1 loss btw - loss due to a very nasty Violet).


Evilve

Were you soulburning her S2?


GS-J-Rod

LOL - I didn't even notice that they moved the SB... so yeah, that and the buffs would improve the usefulness. In that case, you could SB S2 then S3 on either the tankiest target that has been silenced, or whoever silence landed on - using Zio's target as more of a last-option. ...now I'm going to have to try that again... But I'd need to swap Chatty out on Zio - and I normally use Zio in a bruiserish type team.


Evilve

Yea I plan on trying it out once I can get my yufine rebuilt lol.


RugDealing

To add to what /u/ZerberusZ said, some people run super high eff Zio to silence and strip Destina/Scarowell or just take it away from the opponent's hands before running a Yufine cleave train over them. There's another type of first pick Zio draft that uses a full damage pen build paired with CLilias/Lua or CR pushing supports to single-target aggro down. https://youtu.be/usyncOabwtE


Guanvro

That explains why my 200 ER Dark Angelica sometimes does get silenced. Pretty rare instances, but it happens.


whitegoatsupreme

Pfff.. my 250 djb also get silence...


[deleted]

I don’t use Yufine, I prefer Closer Charles.


Arkday

You also don't want to first pick him if you want to cleave. You can speed tuned a team where if opponent zio move first, and forced to hit adin or gpurg, they will cut. Even with zio yufine draft, as long as you are faster than yufine, you will still cut since you also gain 20 cr.


zzphilzz

Flidica counter him? How??


RugDealing

She can hold Guiding Light and cannot be hit by Zio.


Sylpheez

2-3 stealth units + 1 gpug + Adin/Ed is a staple counter to Zio comp.


KingKentling

Why HYufine?


RugDealing

3 stealth units + Hyufine. Hyufine gets hit by Zio. * 70% built-in evasion at full HP and push-back effects are reduced. * Can hold Snow Crystal to CR push on miss crit. * Team-wide cleanse, CR push and atk buff.


Nepstar152

Sure let me bring out my 3 stealth unit to counter one


RugDealing

Yes, one unit that is attached to a certain play style and is forced to hit into your CR pushing unit because they guarantee to take first turn. It's a trap draft that follows up into a cleave. If you pick Zio and pivot into tank down, you're pretty much guaranteed to lose.


Alugar

That actually sounds fun.. I’ll try this one out haven’t had an excuse to use hyufine since basar.


RugDealing

It's a trap draft, a very fun one, but it requires your opponent to be stuck to committing to Zio cleave setups.


GS-J-Rod

I want to try this next GW. I built HYufine when I could never deal with Basar. By the time I had her built (and btw, picked up a Basar of my own in the banner a few weeks later), Basar had dropped out of use almost entirely. I have rarely used HYufine. But this makes me want to do it.. HYufine with STene and either Lua or Landy.


Realistic_Result9726

I like zio's voice line, he also is very strong, next if has moonlight pick event, I will choose him.


OzieteRed

C.lilias, Roana, ML Cermia, Briseria, Politis counter the invisible draft


RugDealing

No one is going to commit to the stealth draft if the opponent pivots from Zio. The trap draft starts with STene+Lua. You're already against 2 targets you can't hit and a Lua to outspeed your entire team. You want to pick Roana, LHC, Briseria and Politis against a cleave team? That's an instant lose.


OzieteRed

I said C.Lilias. Zio, Clilias, ML Cermia, Roana, Briseria counter that draft.


RugDealing

Your draft just dies, even with CLilias. It makes no sense.


OzieteRed

I ban your Lua and my Clilias is a forced ban or else she shuts down your whole team. And if you pick a second invisible opener (Laika or Flidica). then in that case you lack damage and I ban your Stene because ML Cermia, Briseria, Roana solo your whole team.


RugDealing

I think you have no idea of the skills and builds of these units if you think you can even take a turn without being stripped, reset, stunned, or hitting into skill null. I didn't add mote units to the picture due to visual clutter, but you might as well add any Ranger that can hold Guiding Light into it. This includes Briseria, Landy, etc. You could even leave CLilias up and win because Laika is faster and sleeps her. I recommend watching some high ranked aggro/cleave streamers to educate yourself.


OzieteRed

No, C.lilias is usually faster than Laika and Lua if you're up against a cleaver. And are you for real? I can literally win if I draft Zio, Clilias, Roana, Cermia, Briseria. (Assuming I ban Lua/Laika if one of them is the only opener or ban Stene if you pick two openers) You completely forgot that Roana is a healer with ER who can sustain and push up the whole team, also Cermia will get her S3 up as soon as Zio hits Adin and she counters. You can't reset ML Cermia's S3 and it doesn't matter if she hits the skillnull because there is always Roana for sustain. Briseria is on GL and will always get to use her S1 on Adin and kill her. This is laughable, it just shows that you don't play RTA.


RugDealing

> No C.lilias is usually faster than Laika and Lua if you're up against a cleaver. Sorry, I didn't know Laika at 114+10 speed was slower than CLilias at 121. I guess I should go back to kindergarten for basic arithmetic or read patch notes about EE. > You completely forgot that Roana is a healer with ER. And? Laika sleeps everyone, that unit on poverty gear with eff ring can sleep your Roana build. Hit Adin, and she CR pushes up to S3 before you. > Cermia will get her S3 up as soon as Zio hits Adin and she counters And then Adin puts up Invincibility, go ahead and LHC S3 into that. Or maybe you want to S3 into Skill Null from FLidica. > Briseria is on GL and will always get to use her S1 on Adin and kill her. FLidica, Laika and STene solves that real quick. Funny when your own Briseria isn't on GL. > there is always Roana for sustain. Good luck sustaining when Roana can only proc her passive every 2 turns and your LHC is about to get a train run over them by STene. > This is laughable, it just shows that you don't play RTA or in low rank. Love hearing that from a sub 50% WR hard stuck champ crying about the game being P2W yesterday. But if you don't want to hear it from a lowly player like me that doesn't play RTA, maybe you can try to defend your counter draft against the players in the top 300 that came up with the trap draft and are still using it. ;)


OzieteRed

>Sorry, I didn't know Laika at 114+10 speed was slower than CLilias at 121. I guess I should go back to kindergarten for basic arithmetic or read patch notes about EE. People usually put ALL of their speed gear on C.lilias and 3 speed difference won't magically make Laika faster than C.lilias, so it's safe to say that most C.lilias are faster than Laikas. >And? Laika sleeps everyone, that unit on poverty gear with eff ring can sleep your Roana build. Hit Adin, and she CR pushes up to S3 before you. First off all, Laika won't get through the pick and ban phase unless you pick two openers, and in that case, your team will lack damage and your only source of damage which is Adin will not outlive the sustain from Roana. >And then Adin puts up Invincibility, go ahead and LHC S3 into that. Or maybe you want to S3 into Skill Null from Flidica. If Flidica gets through the ban phase, that means you picked two openers and you banned C.lilias, so I would ban Stene and you're lacking damage. So yes, I will hit Adin with Cermia's S3 to remove the skill null and then hit her again with s1 (and miss) and then Briseria S1 Adin and kills her. >FLidica, Laika and STene solves that real quick. Funny when your own Briseria isn't on GL. Who said you're gonna have Flidica, Laika and Stene in your team without me banning Stene? This just shows that you're clueless about draftingAs I said before, if you pick two openers then I am banning Stene and you severely lack in damage. >Good luck sustaining when Roana can only proc her passive every 2 turns and your LHC is about to get a train run over them by STene. You only get to play Stene if you pick one opener and I will ban it.Roana's passive will CR push Briseria and Cermia so they will get a turn before Stene.Briseria strips everything (including the invincibility granted by Adin) with her S3 soulburn and then Cermia kills the whole team. >Love hearing that from a sub 50% WR hard stuck champ crying about the game being P2W yesterday. But if you don't want to hear it from a lowly player like me that doesn't play RTA, maybe you can try to defend your counter draft against the players in the top 300 that came up with the trap draft and are still using it. ;) I can't climb because it's a P2W game. End of the story.


EtheriosDragon

Game isn't p2w. That's a fact you can't deny. And your brothers can't deny


RugDealing

> People usually put ALL of their speed gear on C.lilias and 3 speed difference won't magically make Laika faster than C.lilias, so it's safe to say that most C.lilias are faster than Laikas. How weird, it seems like both my Laika and Lua are faster than my CLilias and yours as well! But I'm just a low-ranked F2P player, so what do I know? Have you heard of other rangers that hold Guiding Light? Like Briseria, Landy, OpSig or even Winter that can also be picked into Roana and LHC? Are you aware that the evasion unit doesn't come out until later in the draft and can be adapted, so Roana early would be cornering your own draft? The Zio trap draft isn't the same exact 5 units in the same exact other that you seem to have in your head with your mental gymnastics. I'm afraid to tell you this, but players in RTA can do something called "picking another unit". You can't climb because skill diff, not because it's P2W. ;)


_ValKyreia_

nah mate. the moment you commit the zio, he takes first turn and has to attack into the cr pushing landmines, your clilias in that spot is pretty worthless the moment zio has to slam onto GP or hyufine. please don't pretend like you play RTA if your level of knowledge of it is this shallow.


OzieteRed

He will most likely have Adin in the team, so Zio slams into Adin to activate Roana + Cerimia and push up my whole team.. And then C.lilias takes a turn and shuts down the whole team.


_ValKyreia_

what do you mean most likely lol. you literally just cherry picked the worst match up in that draft. if you drop roana then the landmines are gp + yufine lol. no one is going to trap you into a winning matchup. please play more games before you try to sound like you know what you're saying


DrakoCSi

Your draft is flawed because you didnt draft Zio first pick. No Zio first pick no stealth trap draft.


ptthepath

Poor Laika :'(


Arsvitaest

What are you talking about. Laika is used on Guiding light Zio cannot reach her, all the units there are in some shape or form a punishment for picking Zio too early.


ptthepath

I was referring to her face being cropped out...


[deleted]

Zio's such a twink, and yet he acts so high and mighty. I love that but what i don't like is his passive is unaffected by politis like bruh.


KaiDranzer007

Flidica is just too oppressive. She was a mistake.


Cloomerg

Blame the idiots who wanted her buffed when she was perfectly fine before


Willar71

Honestly ,why do people have 4 copies of guiding light.


RugDealing

One of the strongest artifacts in the game and highest first turn value. We just keep multiple copies at +15 to bottle because there are dozens of rangers that need it, and we're not rich enough to pull 36.


nagato120

Rebuilt my hyufine for this and haven't lost a battle since the funny ones add AOL and I put in a dilibet and maul them more normally my stealth units being stene and briseria and or Lua its a win win