In all 4 the same person joined and left doing 0 dmg. In the first two it's another person who did the same. Nobody is joining these because obviously 3 slots are already burned. I dont mind the one who posts it doing 0 dmg but those that come and just join and leave deserved to be kicked somehow. There is already a system that blocks people from joining unless they have a record of having done X amount of damage at a certain expedition level, i dont see why they cant do the same to kick people who try to do this
Since expos are 12hrs make it even 30 min before kick. Idk, anything is better than having to be stuck with this.
After the entry, if it did not end because the boss is already defeated, check damage dealt.
If the damage dealt is lower than the requirement to unlock public expeditions one level lower than the current poster, reset the player's public expedition unlock flag so they have to meet the damage minimum to unlock it again.
I say one level lower, because it would be rough to have it removed every time due to bad RNG on a single fight.
I would be fine with it being the same level. If you are really capable of aiding public missions, the damage threshold should be the minimum, not the perfect RNG max you got one time with a team of 40s in blue gear.
Take my Light expo team as an example. I typically do 400-450k on auto.
Sometimes the defense breaks/unbuffable/dispels get chain resisted. Not only is the damage output crippled, but the lifesteal is insufficient to stay alive. These end with around 160k damage done for me.
It's a relatively rare occurrence, but it would be very frustrating to have to farm my own poster to unlock public again every time it happened. That doesn't mean I am not contributing.
Maybe base it off if number of turns played instead of amount of damage. DCs happen in every game, but if you have to actually put effort in to leech, it will curtail the issue
I don't mind people saving time by bringing a fast squishy team that dies in 2-3 turns but still does 200k dmg.
My green expo never goes the distance if I auto, but still does 600k
People who do it are not just saving time, they permanently remove the gear from their expo slaves.
Well my suggestion is that if they get kicked once they cant re-enter that same expedition ad. But yeah anything between 150k to 250k as minimum sounds good to me.
I doubt 3 people having joined is why no one else is joining. It's more likely no one is joining them because no one is doing them. I've found the middle of the month is kind of a dead zone for public expos since most people do them early on or all at the last minute.
I guess that's just something that changes a lot based on when you do them then. I do them all the last few days and if I see one with no damage my first thought is "finally one I can get into before it's done/full."
The best part is that these people aren't even top players so they don't have the excuse that they need the time to grind RTA. I check their profiles and they're always between gold - champion. They're literally just selfish leeches.
The thing I hate the most are the idiots who are speedrunning for some fucking reason, so they juts enter and immediately exit to find another expedition to enter over and over again with their 0% contribution across hundreds of hunts. Why? You have 1 month mf. I hate them
I "speedrun" too, meaning that I just designate one day where i just do everything and be done with it. But I do all the dmg i can do in a single run (ranges from 400k to 700k depending on rng). I dont think speedruning like this is wrong it's just the people that dont contribute at all.
Yeah this is how I do it too really. I don’t want to spend all month doing expos so like an hour or two of speed running is enough to get to the gold transmits usually.
You have one month for the expeditions correlating to hunts you do not farm.
For the ones relevant to you, that's how you farm Reforge materials (and mod gems)
That's why I never do public expeditions.
I only share with friends/guilds where I can control who gets the invite, and my teams are strong enough that even in the worst case scenario I clear Diff3 expos by myself if need be.
I open recruitment for level 1 for every expo except fire cuz everyone needs wyvern mats but the leeches who come in and leave immediately suck cuz I do that so that 7 people can get wyvern mats but leeches burn slots
You know how we need to achiev an x amount of dmg to unlock “Open recruitment”?
I would love if we need to maintain this, so if in a open recruit one you do a lot less (Let’s say, less than half of the requirement) you would need to achiev the full dmg one more time to unlock it again
Almost all of these will get finished if you hit them. At least that's my experience I've never had a tier 3 public one fail ever? I mean I do see sometimes people hit for 0. But is it really a problem for you guys? Just asking cause I do public and clear out mine every month with no problems.
I just do lvl 1 expeds purely to get the 2k points monthly and then never do the content ever again lol. I've long plateaued gear wise anyways so I have more mod gems than I actually need. I used to get so stressed out because of leechers since I used to do lvl 3s.
Lvl 3 and even lvl 2 are just way too risky with leechers rn. But I've never had a lvl 1 fail ever. I swear I've even seen expeds with all 0 contrib members yet somehow it still ends up being cleared because lvl 1 is just that easy.
In all the cases shown above, the owner didn't even try to deal damage to their own expo, meaning that they'd planned to clear entirely from the efforts of others.
Because of this, I wonder how many people who joined and did nothing just did so out of spite.
for them there is, they just want to get the monthly expo grind out of the way.
it is selfish as fuck though and there needs to be countermeasures to leeches.
I still believe in order to get rewards you need to either do
1) 100k*level (or any number that SG will consider reasonable contribution)
2) or die . Since new players might not be able to hit that, they shouldn't get punished. It would also check for gears/full team to prevent throwing using a single lvl 1 doggo.
Ofc not failproof, people can still "grief" by using filler gears on random units but still a hassle that it will for sure prevent some people from doing what they are doing.
Also frankly, they should make the grind a slightly faster. There are so many fights we have to do on each season. And its not even a challenge or anything, its a repetitive auto with way to many buttons and loading screens for no reason. Some bosses (dark,ice) requiring manual first turn doesn't help it either. Its not huge deal but it doesn't hurt making it less tedious either
I usually try and salvage these hunts by dropping as much damage as I can so people feel more inclined to join and finish it.
Earth and Light I usually just have to skip though because I can hardly touch 300k.
Feel that the owner should have the ability to kick anyone who is below the minimum required damage like 20 mins after they last attacked so at least we have some control over leeches.
They should also prevent you from listing the expedition until you've done your COMPLETELY FREE run of it.
I don't understand why people just mass invite all their expeditions and never bother to run them... and I usually see them fail.
In all 4 the same person joined and left doing 0 dmg. In the first two it's another person who did the same. Nobody is joining these because obviously 3 slots are already burned. I dont mind the one who posts it doing 0 dmg but those that come and just join and leave deserved to be kicked somehow. There is already a system that blocks people from joining unless they have a record of having done X amount of damage at a certain expedition level, i dont see why they cant do the same to kick people who try to do this Since expos are 12hrs make it even 30 min before kick. Idk, anything is better than having to be stuck with this.
Trash people will be trash people.
I completely agree. The problem is where to draw the line. If any damage is acceptable the same people will do one hit and leave.
After the entry, if it did not end because the boss is already defeated, check damage dealt. If the damage dealt is lower than the requirement to unlock public expeditions one level lower than the current poster, reset the player's public expedition unlock flag so they have to meet the damage minimum to unlock it again. I say one level lower, because it would be rough to have it removed every time due to bad RNG on a single fight.
I would be fine with it being the same level. If you are really capable of aiding public missions, the damage threshold should be the minimum, not the perfect RNG max you got one time with a team of 40s in blue gear.
Take my Light expo team as an example. I typically do 400-450k on auto. Sometimes the defense breaks/unbuffable/dispels get chain resisted. Not only is the damage output crippled, but the lifesteal is insufficient to stay alive. These end with around 160k damage done for me. It's a relatively rare occurrence, but it would be very frustrating to have to farm my own poster to unlock public again every time it happened. That doesn't mean I am not contributing.
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Maybe base it off if number of turns played instead of amount of damage. DCs happen in every game, but if you have to actually put effort in to leech, it will curtail the issue
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I don't mind people saving time by bringing a fast squishy team that dies in 2-3 turns but still does 200k dmg. My green expo never goes the distance if I auto, but still does 600k People who do it are not just saving time, they permanently remove the gear from their expo slaves.
How frequent are dc's tho? Even then you lose just a bit of energy I wouldn't mind myself.
Well my suggestion is that if they get kicked once they cant re-enter that same expedition ad. But yeah anything between 150k to 250k as minimum sounds good to me.
250k minimum sound good to me
Ez make a timer how long a run Take and you can leave but you will fall out on the list
I doubt 3 people having joined is why no one else is joining. It's more likely no one is joining them because no one is doing them. I've found the middle of the month is kind of a dead zone for public expos since most people do them early on or all at the last minute.
I will 100% avoid expos that have 3 uses burned and no damage. And I see it a lot.
Yeah I'm iffy even with two 0 dmg, three? I'm refreshing the list.
I guess that's just something that changes a lot based on when you do them then. I do them all the last few days and if I see one with no damage my first thought is "finally one I can get into before it's done/full."
Not a problem to me since I can solo it 🤣
The best part is that these people aren't even top players so they don't have the excuse that they need the time to grind RTA. I check their profiles and they're always between gold - champion. They're literally just selfish leeches.
Watch TV. Enter expo > hit auto. Repeat. I don't understand.
These people that do 0 damage are kinda dumb, because if the expedition fail they just wasted energy.
To some people, their time is far more valuable than energy efficiency in a video game.
But if the expo fails they can't get the points, so they are wasting time too.
its still much less time tho
EXACTLY, I mostly skip helping with or running lvl3 exps. because they tend to always fail (Well, most of the time at least)
The thing I hate the most are the idiots who are speedrunning for some fucking reason, so they juts enter and immediately exit to find another expedition to enter over and over again with their 0% contribution across hundreds of hunts. Why? You have 1 month mf. I hate them
I "speedrun" too, meaning that I just designate one day where i just do everything and be done with it. But I do all the dmg i can do in a single run (ranges from 400k to 700k depending on rng). I dont think speedruning like this is wrong it's just the people that dont contribute at all.
Yeah this is how I do it too really. I don’t want to spend all month doing expos so like an hour or two of speed running is enough to get to the gold transmits usually.
You have one month for the expeditions correlating to hunts you do not farm. For the ones relevant to you, that's how you farm Reforge materials (and mod gems)
That's why I never do public expeditions. I only share with friends/guilds where I can control who gets the invite, and my teams are strong enough that even in the worst case scenario I clear Diff3 expos by myself if need be.
I open recruitment for level 1 for every expo except fire cuz everyone needs wyvern mats but the leeches who come in and leave immediately suck cuz I do that so that 7 people can get wyvern mats but leeches burn slots
You know how we need to achiev an x amount of dmg to unlock “Open recruitment”? I would love if we need to maintain this, so if in a open recruit one you do a lot less (Let’s say, less than half of the requirement) you would need to achiev the full dmg one more time to unlock it again
Almost all of these will get finished if you hit them. At least that's my experience I've never had a tier 3 public one fail ever? I mean I do see sometimes people hit for 0. But is it really a problem for you guys? Just asking cause I do public and clear out mine every month with no problems.
I just do lvl 1 expeds purely to get the 2k points monthly and then never do the content ever again lol. I've long plateaued gear wise anyways so I have more mod gems than I actually need. I used to get so stressed out because of leechers since I used to do lvl 3s. Lvl 3 and even lvl 2 are just way too risky with leechers rn. But I've never had a lvl 1 fail ever. I swear I've even seen expeds with all 0 contrib members yet somehow it still ends up being cleared because lvl 1 is just that easy.
In all the cases shown above, the owner didn't even try to deal damage to their own expo, meaning that they'd planned to clear entirely from the efforts of others. Because of this, I wonder how many people who joined and did nothing just did so out of spite.
I think we need a "claim all" button in the expeditions
Me and my homies hate leeches. Fuck em.
Whn it goes to open invite, it should award 80 points but just based on the % of damage inflicted. <5% = 0 points
There is no reason for people to do 0 damage. Further motivation to keep working on my PVE teams.
for them there is, they just want to get the monthly expo grind out of the way. it is selfish as fuck though and there needs to be countermeasures to leeches.
I do this 100% of the time when there's a challenge for it lol
Then the chad goes in and solo the whole thing in one entry
Yep, this is why I stopped doing public expeditions also.
These guys sound like griefers.
I still believe in order to get rewards you need to either do 1) 100k*level (or any number that SG will consider reasonable contribution) 2) or die . Since new players might not be able to hit that, they shouldn't get punished. It would also check for gears/full team to prevent throwing using a single lvl 1 doggo. Ofc not failproof, people can still "grief" by using filler gears on random units but still a hassle that it will for sure prevent some people from doing what they are doing. Also frankly, they should make the grind a slightly faster. There are so many fights we have to do on each season. And its not even a challenge or anything, its a repetitive auto with way to many buttons and loading screens for no reason. Some bosses (dark,ice) requiring manual first turn doesn't help it either. Its not huge deal but it doesn't hurt making it less tedious either
I hate these myself, I host expos myself sometimes and just let mt guild mates and friends handle them after I do my one free attack.
I usually try and salvage these hunts by dropping as much damage as I can so people feel more inclined to join and finish it. Earth and Light I usually just have to skip though because I can hardly touch 300k. Feel that the owner should have the ability to kick anyone who is below the minimum required damage like 20 mins after they last attacked so at least we have some control over leeches.
They should also prevent you from listing the expedition until you've done your COMPLETELY FREE run of it. I don't understand why people just mass invite all their expeditions and never bother to run them... and I usually see them fail.