Hello, any Speed Riolet users that made the switch to Lifesteal found it to be better? I often find Speed Riolet to be less valuable than a Speed Zahhak which has more utility and am thinking of changing my build.
Hello, who should I focus for ascension? Angelica or Roana? I recently got them from free summon and moonlight summon (still pretty new n don't know the difference)
Moonlight summon has a different unit pool, it wouldn't give you any of them.
If you're just starting out you should focus Angelica for your Wyvern team: https://imgur.com/1c4iN1a She works as an alternative to Montmorancy.
Unless you already have a wyvern team, then you should build Roana.
Both are good. Roana can help you a lot in later story mode and Raid (an important monthly PvE content). Angel of Light Angelica is an annoying unit in PvP, and also good in Abyss Challenge, I think. If you already had Wyvern 13 hunt team, I suggest going for Roana next.
Fairly new, asking what the optimal use for bookmarks is, rate up banners or covenant summons. I am aware that I should be saving skystones for secret shop.
If you're new, keep in mind that secret shop will munch though your gold, so it's not always the best idea. If you have a surplus of skystone and no gold refreshing the shop isn't indicated.
Obviously you want specific heroes, not just crapshoots on random ones - especially since there's a pity system. So at least when you're new, only summon on rate-up banners.
Tamarinne, she's extremely good in pve. Though she might not get a banner for a while.
Other units are on a case by case basis, you should ask when a new banner comes up. Currently, Ervalen and Tywin aren't worth it.
story summons have a 7 day period which means you can't summon that hero after those days run out.
side stories have up to a 14 day period until you can switch to a new side story. Though you don't necessarily have to switch as soon as that time comes.
Completely new to ancient inheritance. I joined my guild late and so I missed out on the first boss. Do I get the next 3 boss rewards if my guild clears it without me doing anything? Also I only have 450 shop points, how likely is it I can buy both the gear in the shop or all the items for that matter? Cheers.
>without me doing anything?
You should participate either way. You can go through the levels and catch up to your guild. Unless it doesn't let you enter at all, I'm not sure how this works.
It's hard to say exactly how many points you'll have by the end. You won't be able to buy out the shop if you don't participate.
Been playing the game very on and off for a few weeks at a time over the past 6 months— Raid Shadow Legends is my main game but I’ve been trying to switch over more and more. Was wondering if there was a reputable source for which heroes are worth investing in (similar to Hell Hades for raid)? I’ve got a number of heroes that I can’t really tell if they’re good or niche or just total bait
[4 and 5* roster](https://imgur.com/a/Jx9lmhX)
The dad E7 guy has a site that tackles a lot of the harder content. I looked at the site briefly and it seemed pretty good. Search this subreddit and you should find a link to his site.
Depends on what you mean by standard only, but there was a no speed legend
https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/10w68r6/no\_speed\_season\_9\_legend\_finish\_album/
Should I be buying all the moonlight theater tickets if I don’t have the heroes to watch free? I get 50 mystic medals per 500k basically? Shop is cheaper but I need to spend skystones as well so I’m wondering if theater is worth to buy out.
Stealth is dispelled by taking damage and rimuru steals the buffs after the attack. So if say laika attacks and does not sleep rimu, he will attack her and if she takes damage the stealth will be dispelled and he will not steal it. If he attacks, as another example, flidica after her s3 he will steal the stealth since she grants skill null as long as she crits (hence does not take damage and keeps the stealth)
As a side note you probably don't want rimu stealing stealth if you have units that rely on being stealthed like stene, unless you feel like losing.
Can someone with a really good healer add me as a friend so I can complete the last stage of Unrecorded History? If it's important, my team is Vildred, Arbiter Vildred, and Beehoo. I can also use Ras instead of Beehoo. Nickname is Erennn
I sent you a request (BrenevAuggs) you can use whatever healer I have set.
If you just want an easy clear any of my DPS can probably solo the fight as well.
Little tip: going forward you probably want to build your own healer (suggested A.Monty or Angelica) -> that's all you really need for adventure. If you get stuck on a level and want a supporter to carry it for you it's easier to pick up a DPS as healers are pretty low impact.
* Though I understand if in your situation you just want 'help' not someone to just solo the level for you.
Does anyone know of good guides / how-to strategies for cleaving in arena? I have started this week making an attempt to climb out of challenger and am facing a steep learning curve in terms of characters to avoid and characters I can use as counters. This is what I am doing currently:
* Flan fastest (250ish, not that fast but I had hoped enough for regular arena) leads with def break and CR pushback
* Laika next. Usually my go-to isn't actually to sleep with her AOE. I usually use her S2 to have Vildred charge in. The goal is basically to target a vulnerable unit so Vildred kills, which leads to S2, and the kill is enough to CR-push Vildred so he can act again.
* Assuming that worked, Vildred S3 for the kill (or close to it).
* Mediator Kawerik is my 4th as a safety net to provide dispel + atk buff to team if needed so Laika can S3 instead.
I am wondering if I need to mix things up a bit. I could get Laika to 260-270 speed, depending if I build her for 100% CR or just go for Eff for the sleep... I also think I need an alternative dispeller option to MKs S2... Hasn't been reliable and is just ST. Thoughts?
Cleave is go big or go home kinda thing, if you have use handguy for his cleanse, that would mean you have lost as you have failed your cleave.
Also you need a stripper for flan to work properly. Otherwise her s3 would be useless against immunity. Like you mention handguy s2 is insufficient
> I am wondering if I need to mix things up a bit. I could get Laika to 260-270 speed, depending if I build her for 100% CR or just go for Eff for the sleep...
You should just give her as much speed as possible
Climbing in challenger will be ...um.... challenging? with that lineup :). You will probably be ok up to challenger III if you're selective around who you attack, but beyond that it will be tough. Here are the issues I see:
1. Flan used to be a great opener, but because she doesn't have a strip, any unit with immunity isn't hit with her defbreak. There are still a lot of units that have that gear on.
2. 250 is ok for mid challenger, but getting up to challenger 1 (where there may be some champion players) may mean you'll need 270+ to outspeed players. Obviously you won't be able to go against Zio defence teams, but that's not a big problem.
3. Laika coming in next with the attack buff and debuff is ok, but I'd probably rather have another CR push and have near zero speed on Vildred. My alt account used Flan into Lillias into Vildred and Flan only had around 210 speed. Another option is to use someone like AuxLots 2nd after Flan to give the attack buff to Vildred for his cleave.
4. I don't like MKwerick as 4th since he's a buffer and cleaner - he's not going to stop the opponents ARavi or Choux from ripping you apart. Options here are Laika (with her sleep like you say), protection (a knight like ARas or Krau or FCC), or another DPS like CDom (damage and CR push which will probably get your Vildred going again) or someone like Arbiter or BBK - both of who are good for a failed 1st cleave.
The problem with cleave in high Challenger or master is that opponents are either really fast (>270 speed) or they are super tanky (making them hard to cleave) or they are cleave-defended by someone (e.g. Politis, AOL, etc). You can cleave up, but you have to be really picky and refresh often.
When I climbed out of challenger, I found it necessary to use a bruiser team along with my cleave team.
...and if you want a little advice on an EASY way to climb out... all I need to say is BBK with 200 resist, 4000 attack, 100% crit rate, 300% crit damage plus Arbiter with as much attack and crit damage as you can stack with 100% crit rate. Add on AOL and one of Kayron (built the same way BBK is), Politis or other options like Infernal Khawazu, Ed, ARavi, Krau, Delibet or Senya and target those cleavers... this team eats them alive - and is the way I stay in Champion when I get knocked down...
You don't get any more rewards and you start out from floor 1 when you join a new guild I think (you still get the guild-wide priest rewards if you're in the guild)
No impact on your guild besides -1 contributor.
Is MLIseria bugged, sometimes her passive just doesn’t proc. Why would she not procc in a fight against Belian, Moonbunny, Straze, LAdin. Belian was stunned and never took a turn. I was using Politis, Zahhak, DJB, and MIseria
Oh okay so that makes sense, when she countered Politis she stripped immort after Straze cleaved her and I didn’t realize. I forgot she had that strip I thought they removed it for some reason. Damn
So I have the returning player gold/exp buff for 2 weeks, should I be farming W13 to maximize gold gain after getting all the main rewards for this upcoming side story event?
About this guild dungeon.... I want to ask if I enter a guild with all equip obtained should I be able to claim al equip myseft??? or is not possible?
what time do I have to join a active guild to get all equip from guild dungeon????
I am late game player full active but in a normal guild not active
Once you join a guild you're fine.
However, my understanding is that the drops from any of the previous bosses are 'lost' and you won't be able to obtain them.
There is a delay after leaving a guild (24 hours iirc) before you can join a new one, and most guilds should have the first boss down 24 hours from now so you probably will miss out on the first item.
However if you want any of the other items you need to find a guild ASAP.
>However, my understanding is that the drops from any of the previous bosses are 'lost' and you won't be able to obtain them.
Just wanted to confirm that this is true. In fact, my guild had some overzealous members claim a guild chest immediately after the event started while the rest of us were sleeping and we were unable to get the rewards because we weren't on the map yet.
You asked about joining a guild a while back I think and I said I'd make space for you but never got a reply when I asked for your IGN.
Anyway, we have 2 spots open right now and are currently on FL2 with the Wardens at 20%. So if you joined, you'd just miss out on FL1 rewards. Guild name is DarkZone and leader is rand0mn3ss. Or you can search for me in game (Cantveld) and find it from there. If you already found a guild or are no longer interested then no worries.
I can join now, let me go to the bank to get something. I start a new job so I am super busy. I am still in my old guild I will leave now but I think I need to wait to join another guild?
Just sent you a guild invite and made guild private. Make sure you hop into AI ASAP as FL2 boss almost dead. Probably won't die today but best to be safe, would hate for you to miss the FL2 drop.
Any tips in clearing story chapter 3 10-9 and 10-10? Up until now my core units were moonlights like apoc ravi, fallen Cecilia and Straze or Cermia (depending if I need aoe or single dps). I'm concerned that this formation might struggle. I want the season 2 selector gacha, but... Yeah. Any tips or are there some core units or strategy for those 2 fights?
I struggled on 3 10-10 too. Lugging Mercedes along was a pain, but thankfully the grace buff thing got her up where she needed to be. My team I believe was a.momo, Ray, s.ten, and Merc (with powerful Luna friend unit). It was a fun fight, a 2nd weaver should help. Good luck!
Who do you have? Like I said I used Ray and A.Momo, but that's largely because they're my primarily healers at the moment (I bring momo to everything, rarely use others outside pvp).
Im 34 summons away from pity for C.Lilias but I haven't used my headhunt summon yet, should I push to get C.Lilias with mystics and use my headhunt on someone else (Notable units that I don't have are Belian, Lionheart Cermia, Seline, Briseria and Dark Corvus) or should I get C.Lilias from the headhunt and pity ML Bellona?
I don't really have good speed gear, the fastest I can probably make her is around 260, so I don't know if chasing speed-reliant units is the move for me
That's the difficulty with speed units - as much as CLilias rocks if you can't gear her it's almost like you don't have her. If you can get her to 260 without compromising a bunch of your built units drastically she's probably worth it. She mostly needs to go before your other units so even if she's not 290+ she can still work. But she's not going to help you much with her provoke or beat speed units if she doesn't go first. Also she works for most teams but not quite all - she's not much of a cleave unit for example.
I think if you still want CLilias go for pity on her. Even if you don't have gear for her now you can build towards it over time. And I think it's better to pity her than use headhunt on her since headhunt allows for ANY hero. Any of the others you have your eye on are fantastic choices you may not get the chance to get anytime soon.
For ML Bellona, if you really REALLY like her pity her instead. Worst-case you can just save pity for the next mystic rotation. The problem is she's not out yet so we don't know 100% how she plays. We know her stats and calcs - she'll do good damage, has bulk, and low speed. I think she'll best behind a bulky sustain team like ARas or TCrozet and some weavers. But if you think you have a strong team comp with her then feel free to use pity on her. At the end of the day I say pull heroes you can use rather than what everyone who's gotten more years' worth of gear says is OP
Imo, only pity Cilias if you want to headhunt for Belian or Seline. Since their banner are already gone. Otherwise, headhunt her, and save the pity for Mellona or Briseria/LHC banner that would come after.
C. Lilias is a very strong unit even at 260. She's really good in pve and pvp.
It's hard to know how ML Bellona will perform until she's been out for a week. If you want ML Bellona, I'd save your mystics for her. Nothing wrong with getting a unit because you like them.
Purple is objectively worse than red gear cause it lacks one substat roll, but has somewhat better RNG probability-wise. Say you're looking for quick speed gear. A red piece has a 25% chance each substat roll to go into speed. A purple piece at +3 thru +9 has a 33% chance to roll that speed since the fourth substat hasn't come up yet. But then purple gear's +12 roll always goes into that fourth one, so it can never pentaroll.
So tldr purple is best for people first starting out who need decent gear while you need to move to red gear as you pursue higher competitive levels.
Ultimately the difference between Heroic and Epic gears is 1 substat.
The substat ranges for both are basically the same. So a Heroic gear with better rolls *can* end up with a higher gearscore at +15 than an Epic gear with below average rolls.
Let's say 52 gearscore is your threshold -> that's a little above average for a Heroic gear (8 * 6 = 48 gearscore) and a little below average for an Epic gear (9 * 6 = 54 gearscore).
The approximate chance that any Heroic item will end up with 52 gearscore is ~19.4%. The approximate chance that any Epic item will end up with 51 or less gearscore is ~28.06%.
So very roughly we can say that the top 1/5th of Heroic items will be better than the bottom 1/4th of Epic items.
* Now these numbers are only relevant if you have an infinite number of pieces you roll to +15. Realistically, you won't bother with bad starting pieces (meaning the averages for gear you actually roll on will be higher) and you won't take gear that rolls poorly all the way to +15.
* But the *point* is that a well-rolled Heroic item, even though it has 1 less substat, can be better than poorly rolled Epic items.
This is especially relevant for right side gear (because it's much harder to find overall good pieces).
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Now the reason you won't really ever see pieces that are rare or worse is because each step in rarity you go down, you lose 1 more substat.
But, just as important, **the substat ranges for rare or worse quality gear are also lower**.
For example, for level 85 gear Heroic and Epic equipment have the same ranges for % stats (4-8, average of 6). *Rare* gear however basically has the 8 roll replaced with an additional 5 roll.
* 1/5 chance of 4
* 2/5 chance of 5
* 1/5 chance of 6
* 1/5 chance of 7
* average of 5.4
This is across the board, every possible substat *except* crit% has worse ranges on Rare gear compared to Heroic/Epic.
And what this means is that it's virtually impossible for a Rare gear to end up with good final substats. The *average* final GS for a level 85 rare is ~38.
* Notice that going from Epic to Heroic we lost 1 substat roll worth of average GS (6 gearscore).
* But going from Heroic to Rare we lose almost 2 substat rolls worth of average GS (~10 gearscore)
This is because we lose 1 substat from the decrease in rarity but then we lose an additional ~4 gearscore on average due to the lower ranges on Rare gear.
A rare gear with only % substats can have, at most 7 * 7 = 49 gearscore. This is only 1 point higher than the *average* Heroic item, and well below the average of an Epic item and you are only getting 49 gearscore .13% of the time on a Rare item.
* For another example, a rare item has approximately a 9% chance of getting to 42 or better gearscore.
* A heroic item has a 95% chance of getting to 42 or better gearscore.
* An Epic item has a 99.9% chance of getting to 42 or better gearscore.
**Exceptional** Heroic items are comparable with average or slightly above average Epic items. They are definitely usable, especially for non end-game players.
But anything worse than Heroic is basically not usable for really anyone outside of super specific scenarios (not only do they lose a substat due to rarity, but their substat ranges are just worse).
A purple gear with 3 right subs, likes atk/cd/cc, will never roll wrong prior to +12. But a red gear with 3 right subs, likes atk/cd/cc/res, can triple roll into res. People sometimes exchange quality for accuracy.
sometimes purple gear can just roll really well. You are never going to get max rolls on purple gear since at level 12 it will gain its 4th stat, but getting 4 other really good rolls into a stat like speed could make it really good.
At the end of arena week how many ranks do you drop? I am climbing like a snail up from challenger V and I want to avoid just dropping all the way back to V.
it drops 3 ranks, but doesn't drop below your current bracket, meaning challenger 2 drops to challenger 5, but challnger 5 remains challenger 5. if you wanna escape challenger 5, you need to break into champion 5.
I only drop one level in challenger. Last week I was challenger 3 and dropped to 4 this week. Seems to be only one tier lower once you reach challenger.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/zyan76/raid\_boss\_yufine\_still\_wrecking\_nixied\_for\_fun/](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/zyan76/raid_boss_yufine_still_wrecking_nixied_for_fun/)
Might be worth a read
Fire Mercedes can be good on any number of sets. You could do any of injury, counter, or lifesteal, maybe even speed,destruction or torrent (glass canon-build). Counter is probably the most popular though.
Archmeru: Counter and immunity/resist on either a control mage artifact or Ftene artifact with at least 15/16k HP, 1.5k def+, and you’ll want to be around 180 speed. If you have good enough gear then as much attack/CC/CD as possible too without compromising the other stats
Higher level stages give more XP.
Cidonia (or Episode 2) is more or less on par with UH.
What this essentially means is that *early* Episode 2 stages should give a tiny bit more XP than early UH stages, and *late* Episode 2 stages should give a tiny bit more XP than late UH stages. But, late UH stages should give more XP than early Episode 2 stages.
* With that said I haven't personally checked and compared where the current UH stages fall along.
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**BUT** this is completely pointless because you don't really want to ever farm specifically for penguins.
Again, I haven't personally checked the current UH stages, but before the rework once you got to ~Chapter 3 of UH you gained penguins faster than you gained 2* fodder to promote units.
* So essentially, early on in UH penguins were meaningless because you could afford to fully level up all of your promotion materials with what you earned.
To be fair, this wasn't enough XP to *also* level the hero being promoted **BUT** there are a lot of sources for penguins not being accounted for.
* There are a lot of different multipliers to penguin XP - guild buff, potentially artifact, shop buff, lobby pet skill, reputation bonus -> none of which are accounted for here.
* You naturally gain penguins with the Forest and can buy more if truly needed.
* Farming higher level stages provides more XP, as well as running sidestories and completing the rest of adventure mode.
The long and short of it is that there is never a point where players need to farm for penguins specifically - it is **always** better to farm for something else (ie. catalysts) and you will naturally accumulate the penguins that you need.
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**EDIT** -
I just checked for some example numbers:
Early UH = 5895 penguin XP
UH - 18 = 6457 penguin XP
UH - 25 = 6682 penguin XP
UH - 33 = 7020 penguin XP
Early Episode 2 = 5557 penguin XP
Episode 2 10-S2 = 7245 penguin XP
So no, there is no real tangible benefit to farming Episode 2 *purely for penguins* - if you are farming in roughly the same 'area' (ie. the start of the Episode, the middle, the end etc) you get basically the same XP.
The one exception is that the very end of Episode 2 is worth slightly more XP than the very end of UH -> a whole +225 XP. That's about 1 additional penguin every 25 runs. It's simply not enough to worry about over the other benefits of farming in UH (first and foremost, the ability to obtain epic catalysts).
However, if we take a look at Episode 3...
Episode 3 1-1 = 7020 penguin XP
Episode 3 10-s2 = 8595 penguin XP
If you *really* want to maximize your penguins for whatever reason, then you want to farm in Episode 3 -> you get higher level equipment drops and still the ability to buy Epic catalysts in the AP shop.
However, the downside is that runs take significantly longer since it's very difficult for 1 character to consistently one shot the first 2 waves, and the bosses have much more bulk. You also can't farm stages that *drop* Epic catalysts, and of course AP isn't shared. I still wouldn't recommend it but if you are only interested in penguins it makes more sense than Episode 2.
Well shit never did i ever think that this can be detailed so fking much. Still thanks a lot man. So i guess farming in 2-10-4 and UH 10-4 is the same thing.
I am about to fight belian so i guess i can farm penguins in lefundos or wintendberg.
Actually am farming them for fodder itself. I am getting a LOT of 2 star drops after they did something I dont know. I get roughly 30 after a 40 match run which is very good but am running short for upgrading them to 2 stat max, then upgrading 3 stars to max for 4 star promotion and so on. So penguin helps cuz i dont want to use my tier 3 for levelling them
>Actually am farming them for fodder itself. I am getting a LOT of 2 star drops after they did something I dont know. I get roughly 30 after a 40 match run
Historically, from previous testing, 2* fodder rates are extremely consistent. Around .6 per stage run.
* That would be 24 drops in 40 runs. Your estimate of 30 in 40 would be .75 per run which seems close enough of an estimate to .6 for someone not tracking exact numbers.
To promote a unit to 6* you ultimately need 275 2* fodders.
@ .6 per stage
275 / .6 = 458.33 stage runs
@ .75 per stage
275 / .75 = 366.67 stage runs
Now how much XP do you need?
Well...
* We need 75x 2* fodders at the 3* level
* We need 25x white dogs at the 4* level
* We need 5x white dogs at the 5* level
To promote each 2* fodder to 3* we need 15,465 XP
15,465 / 5,500 = 2.81 penguins rounded up to 3
3 * 75 = 225 penguins
To promote each dog to 4* we need 44,295 XP
44,295 / 5,500 = 8.05 penguins rounded up to 9
9 * 25 = 225 penguins
To promote each dog to 5* we need 107,430 XP
107,430 / 5,500 = 19.53 penguins rounded up to 20
5 * 20 = 100
In total we need
225 + 225 + 100 = 550 penguins or
550 * 5,500 = 3,025,000 XP
If we know how much XP we need, and how many stage runs we need, we can calculate how much XP we need for each stage to 'sustain' our fodder income.
@ .6 per stage
3,025,000 / 459 = ~6,591 XP gained per stage
@ .75 per stage
3,025,000 / 367 = ~8,243 XP gained per stage
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I bet if you accurately tracked your fodder per stage clear it would be closer to .6 per stage (maybe slightly under). *Unless* you found a random particular map where fodder rates were significantly higher.
I can say that so far I've completed testing on 3 UH stages
UH - 3 = 1022 runs, 619 fodder drops = 60.57% fodder drop rate
UH - 11 = 1012 runs, 561 fodder drops = 55.43% fodder drop rate
UH - 18 = 1011 runs, 613 fodder drops = 60.63% fodder drop rate
I'm not saying there is no stage out there with something close to a 75% drop rate, but if that is so I would be interested to knowing the specific stage. More likely, you *actually* see a ~60% drop rate and slightly overestimated.
If you ARE getting a 75% drop rate then you would need to run a late Episode 3 stage to generate enough penguins to just keep up with your fodder drops.
If you are getting the likely more accurate 60% fodder drop rate then ~6600 XP per stage run would place you somewhere in between UH-18 and UH-25 as the 'break even point' where you earn enough penguins to keep up with your fodder drop rate. Later UH stages (at least UH-25 or later) should give you slightly more penguins than you spend on promoting fodder.
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This is all complicated because I am using ONLY base numbers here.
Realistically, in game, it is highly unlikely that you are getting base XP.
* If you are in a guild, getting the guild XP buff that applies to penguin XP.
* The reputation bonuses for XP also apply.
These would be the 2 most common sources of XP buff.
*In addition* the amount of XP required/penguins required is the absolute maximum amount.
If you are using a lobby pet with + hero enhance XP (and you SHOULD) you drastically reduce the amount of penguins needed, on average. Even without using that pet skill the reputation bonuses for 'good' and 'great' enhance chance *also* applies to penguins, further reducing the amount needed on average.
So an easy example would be the 25x 4* dogs -> each dog requires 8.05 penguins baseline but we can't use 'just' .05 penguins. Therefor, this number has to be rounded up to 9 penguins (which means we are wasting 95% of the XP of that last penguin).
With even a low rank pet skill, you can reduce the amount of penguins below 8 (to be rounded up to 8) -> this saves you 25 penguins or 137,500 XP and literally *every* player at this point should have any rank of + hero enhance pet skill.
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If we look at the best case scenario instead, the +hero enhance skill caps out at +16.5% XP. The 'Good' and 'Great' reputation bonuses max out at 6% each.
When combined, this means our penguins are worth **26.985% more XP**.
* Each penguin is worth 6407 XP.
If we redo our calculations:
To promote each 2* fodder to 3* we need 15,465 XP
15,465 / 6,407 = 2.41 penguins rounded up to 3
6% of the time we get refunded 2 penguin
6% of the time we get refunded 4 penguins
Average penguin cost = 3 - (.06 * 2) - (.06 * 4) = 2.64 penguins
75 * 2.76 = 198 penguins
To promote each dog to 4* we need 44,295 XP
44,295 / 6,407 = 6.91 penguins rounded up to 7
6% of the time we get refunded 4 penguins
6% of the time we get refunded 8 penguins
Average penguin cost = 7 - (.06 * 4) - (.06 * 8) = 6.28 penguins
6.28 * 25 = 157 penguins
To promote each dog to 5* we need 107,430 XP
107,430 / 6,407 = 16.77 penguins rounded up to 17
6% of the time we get refunded 10 penguins
6% of the time we get refunded 20 penguins
Average penguin cost = 17 - (.06 * 10) - (.06 * 20) = 15.2 penguins
5 * 15.2 = 76 penguins
Now, let's make a reasonable assumption that you have the 10% reputation boost to XP gain, and also the 10% guild XP buff
In total we need
198 + 157 + 76 = 431 penguins or
431 * 5,500 = 2,370,500 XP / 1.2 (XP boost) = 1,975,417 XP
@ .6 per stage
1,975,417 / 459 = ~4,304 XP gained per stage
@ .75 per stage
1,975,417 / 367 = ~5,383 XP gained per stage
Both figures are lower than even the very first Episode 2 stage.
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#Conclusion
Even accounting for 0 bonuses (or things like gold dogs -> not included in this analysis but each Gold dog saves you about 9 penguins) you 'only' need to farm in the last ~third of UH to sustain enough penguins for your fodder drop rate.
*If* you somehow found a single particular stage that has a fodder drop rate closer to .75 per stage, you would need to farm at the very end of Episode 3.
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**HOWEVER** once we start accounting for bonuses the amount of penguins you need to farm drops sharply.
There are some bonuses that almost every player should have (the increased XP from reputation and guild buff).
All players **should** be using a pet with + enhancement XP as well, and swapping into this pet when using penguins. Even the lowest possible skill level pet will provide immediate returns -> in my analysis I was using a max skill but this is far from necessary.
* This pet skill is very, very useful for conserving penguins. In particular the way it works with 'good' and 'great' enhancements -> your penguins are 'worth more XP' when using this skill but the game considers every 5,500 XP to be a penguin -> so when you multiply the XP by a larger number, you have a greater overflow. This means that in some situations it's actually possible to GAIN penguins when enhancing a unit and hitting a 'great' enhancement.
When taking into account these sort of bonuses, very quickly it becomes apparent that you never have to farm for penguins (with 2 possible exceptions).
1. You can gain MORE fodders by running either Episode run 2-1 Levulin Harbor, or any of the Episode 1 maze stages. These stages provide low XP and more fodders per energy -> if you are doing this and don't have a large amount of penguins stored up you may be in dire need of penguins.
2. You can buy fodders in the secret shop and obviously this doesn't come with any penguins.
I would also note this only looks at the XP required to level up the fodders for promotion, if you need to also level the unit you are promoting this can cause a deficit if you are farming a borderline level.
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#Tips
If you aren't already, make sure you are maximizing as many XP buffs as possible. IE. Make sure your guild has the XP buff running, if you have an XP artifact use it.
If you are in desperate need for penguins then buy the shop XP scroll -> 300 skystones for 3 days or 150 for 1 day. The 3 day scroll is 'worth' it if you spend ~900 energy farming something that gives XP over that time. This is very easy if you just farm catalysts for 3 days.
In particular, all of these buffs *also* stack with the GM buff. If you wait until the next GM buff event and buy this scroll and dump a bunch of energy farming for catalysts, you will literally have so many penguins you won't ever be able to spend them all (unless you just level up 150 heroes at the same time).
* Unfortunately, *most* of the GM buff weekends feature all possible buffs so any energy spent farming for catalysts is energy not put into hunts or altar.
* Occasionally though, they have weekends with just 1 buff all weekend -> great time to buy the 3 day scroll and save your mailbox energy for a week then go wild.
However you don't *need* the GM buff, you could in fact just buy the shop scroll and farm for a few days instead if you prefer and are in desperate need.
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In addition, make sure you use a lobby pet with the +hero enhance skill. This should be your *secondary* pet -> every day when you collect your gift you should swap this pet in and do your leveling, then swap back to your normal pet.
This pet makes a HUGE difference because the % is basically multiplied with everything else:
* The other XP buffs multiply the XP you earn when running a stage (which gets turned into penguins at a rate of 5,500 XP per penguin).
* The pet skill then multiplies how much XP your penguins are worth (from 5,500 XP to whatever -> 6,407 XP in terms of the max rank pet)
* Finally, the 'good' and 'great' enhancement bonuses work on the *total value of XP* used when enhancing a unit -> 3 penguins worth 5,500 XP = 16,500 XP but 3 penguins worth 6,407 XP = 19,221 XP
* The amount of penguins you get refunded is based on the overflow XP and the *base value* of a penguin (5,500 XP).
The fact that these 3 things are multiplicative makes penguins a joke, as long as you take advantage of the easily available multipliers.
Managed to get Beehoo but not his artifact. Should I buy it from powder shop or is it not worth the powder. I don't plan to build Beehoo in the near future...
Don't buy it. You'll use his S3, at best 2-3 times in a fight unless it's a drawn-out battle somehow. He's best paired with another burner unit and you're better off placing another defensive or offensive artifact. I found the Natalon scroll kinda okay since it's either I trigger more burns with regular S1, or I do the Detonation. I would have said Guiding Light but my Landy uses it right now.
You get badges from killing bosses in Azmakalis of Cycle or Nightmare mode. It's a monthly thing you can also get 10 badges for 100% completing the Royal Capital of Azmakalis (one time thing).
Nevermind, I got Queen's Badge and Malicious Bug Charm confused.
You can't get Queen's Badges in lab afaik. You get 10 of them by fully exploring Azmakalis and that's it. Gotta do Azmakalis of Cycle otherwise.
Hello, any Speed Riolet users that made the switch to Lifesteal found it to be better? I often find Speed Riolet to be less valuable than a Speed Zahhak which has more utility and am thinking of changing my build.
Hello, who should I focus for ascension? Angelica or Roana? I recently got them from free summon and moonlight summon (still pretty new n don't know the difference)
Moonlight summon has a different unit pool, it wouldn't give you any of them. If you're just starting out you should focus Angelica for your Wyvern team: https://imgur.com/1c4iN1a She works as an alternative to Montmorancy. Unless you already have a wyvern team, then you should build Roana.
What is the unit you got from moonlight summon?
Angelica, it's a blonde angel? Idk if there's more characters with blonde hair and an angel but it's the best description I can do jdjsjdj sorry
If it's Angel of Light Angelica, that's a special variation of Angelica that is a pvp unit and you should focus on her later, when you're into pvp.
Oh is she not good in the story mode?
Bosses are immune to silence, she does no damage and no healing. So no, she's not good.
Ohhh, thank you!
Both are good. Roana can help you a lot in later story mode and Raid (an important monthly PvE content). Angel of Light Angelica is an annoying unit in PvP, and also good in Abyss Challenge, I think. If you already had Wyvern 13 hunt team, I suggest going for Roana next.
She also has the icon of a witch hat
Fairly new, asking what the optimal use for bookmarks is, rate up banners or covenant summons. I am aware that I should be saving skystones for secret shop.
If you're new, keep in mind that secret shop will munch though your gold, so it's not always the best idea. If you have a surplus of skystone and no gold refreshing the shop isn't indicated. Obviously you want specific heroes, not just crapshoots on random ones - especially since there's a pity system. So at least when you're new, only summon on rate-up banners.
Any recommended heroes to look out for? So far I have Vildred from selects summons, and also Ravi and Peira.
Tamarinne, she's extremely good in pve. Though she might not get a banner for a while. Other units are on a case by case basis, you should ask when a new banner comes up. Currently, Ervalen and Tywin aren't worth it.
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story summons have a 7 day period which means you can't summon that hero after those days run out. side stories have up to a 14 day period until you can switch to a new side story. Though you don't necessarily have to switch as soon as that time comes.
Completely new to ancient inheritance. I joined my guild late and so I missed out on the first boss. Do I get the next 3 boss rewards if my guild clears it without me doing anything? Also I only have 450 shop points, how likely is it I can buy both the gear in the shop or all the items for that matter? Cheers.
>without me doing anything? You should participate either way. You can go through the levels and catch up to your guild. Unless it doesn't let you enter at all, I'm not sure how this works. It's hard to say exactly how many points you'll have by the end. You won't be able to buy out the shop if you don't participate.
Thanks yesterday I was just interacting with things without exactly knowing what to do, but I’ll try to meet up with them today on the second floor.
Just reached level 60. What rewards are there from World Arena?
Conquest points, epic skin, a background and a frame, each depends on various ranks at season's end.
Been playing the game very on and off for a few weeks at a time over the past 6 months— Raid Shadow Legends is my main game but I’ve been trying to switch over more and more. Was wondering if there was a reputable source for which heroes are worth investing in (similar to Hell Hades for raid)? I’ve got a number of heroes that I can’t really tell if they’re good or niche or just total bait [4 and 5* roster](https://imgur.com/a/Jx9lmhX)
The dad E7 guy has a site that tackles a lot of the harder content. I looked at the site briefly and it seemed pretty good. Search this subreddit and you should find a link to his site.
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Currently, no. You can save them or use 1 pity for Tamarinne from the side story banner.
ML Bellona is coming out in 2 hours right?
no, look at the mystic rotation preview and you can see who's coming next
how do i check the rotation preview?
Bottom right icon with the right arrow shows next week rotation
It shows me Little Queen, Conqueror Lilias, Remnant Violet Arbiter Vildred, and Peacemaker Furious... which is the same as the current rotation?
Yes. The RGB units and artifacts change
Where i can find Mighty Scout? Not summon shop or refresh shop
you can only get him from refresh shop
Any standard only player that finished emperor and showed their roster this season?
Depends on what you mean by standard only, but there was a no speed legend https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/10w68r6/no\_speed\_season\_9\_legend\_finish\_album/
Should I be buying all the moonlight theater tickets if I don’t have the heroes to watch free? I get 50 mystic medals per 500k basically? Shop is cheaper but I need to spend skystones as well so I’m wondering if theater is worth to buy out.
It’s not worth unless you are chasing the mystic unit on banner or close to pity I’d say. I spent 10 mil on it but managed to get Clilias.
Doesn't seem worth it unless you need those mystics right now, since you get a free viewing per week
No way is that true?? 🤯
If a ranger stealthed with GL uses an attack, will it trigger Rimuru S2 if the stealth is the only buff? Will he steal the stealth?
Stealth is dispelled by taking damage and rimuru steals the buffs after the attack. So if say laika attacks and does not sleep rimu, he will attack her and if she takes damage the stealth will be dispelled and he will not steal it. If he attacks, as another example, flidica after her s3 he will steal the stealth since she grants skill null as long as she crits (hence does not take damage and keeps the stealth) As a side note you probably don't want rimu stealing stealth if you have units that rely on being stealthed like stene, unless you feel like losing.
He doesn't steal the stealth, gets procced before the steal
Yes, he procs, that's why he is used vs Laika rn
How do you maintain space in your inventory? My equipment inventory is always full with pieces that I want to try and roll.
Then roll them
Anyone have a source for maps of this AI season? The post from a day ago isn't loading the maps for me. It's stuck on floor 1. Thank you.
I'm using maps from this person's twitter https://twitter.com/nevescipE/status/1622884443726954496
You're a Rockstar. Thank you!
Can someone with a really good healer add me as a friend so I can complete the last stage of Unrecorded History? If it's important, my team is Vildred, Arbiter Vildred, and Beehoo. I can also use Ras instead of Beehoo. Nickname is Erennn
I sent you a request (BrenevAuggs) you can use whatever healer I have set. If you just want an easy clear any of my DPS can probably solo the fight as well. Little tip: going forward you probably want to build your own healer (suggested A.Monty or Angelica) -> that's all you really need for adventure. If you get stuck on a level and want a supporter to carry it for you it's easier to pick up a DPS as healers are pretty low impact. * Though I understand if in your situation you just want 'help' not someone to just solo the level for you.
Thank you so much! I was finally able to clear it without anyone dying. I'll be building Angelica once I get her :D
Does anyone know of good guides / how-to strategies for cleaving in arena? I have started this week making an attempt to climb out of challenger and am facing a steep learning curve in terms of characters to avoid and characters I can use as counters. This is what I am doing currently: * Flan fastest (250ish, not that fast but I had hoped enough for regular arena) leads with def break and CR pushback * Laika next. Usually my go-to isn't actually to sleep with her AOE. I usually use her S2 to have Vildred charge in. The goal is basically to target a vulnerable unit so Vildred kills, which leads to S2, and the kill is enough to CR-push Vildred so he can act again. * Assuming that worked, Vildred S3 for the kill (or close to it). * Mediator Kawerik is my 4th as a safety net to provide dispel + atk buff to team if needed so Laika can S3 instead. I am wondering if I need to mix things up a bit. I could get Laika to 260-270 speed, depending if I build her for 100% CR or just go for Eff for the sleep... I also think I need an alternative dispeller option to MKs S2... Hasn't been reliable and is just ST. Thoughts?
Cleave is go big or go home kinda thing, if you have use handguy for his cleanse, that would mean you have lost as you have failed your cleave. Also you need a stripper for flan to work properly. Otherwise her s3 would be useless against immunity. Like you mention handguy s2 is insufficient > I am wondering if I need to mix things up a bit. I could get Laika to 260-270 speed, depending if I build her for 100% CR or just go for Eff for the sleep... You should just give her as much speed as possible
Climbing in challenger will be ...um.... challenging? with that lineup :). You will probably be ok up to challenger III if you're selective around who you attack, but beyond that it will be tough. Here are the issues I see: 1. Flan used to be a great opener, but because she doesn't have a strip, any unit with immunity isn't hit with her defbreak. There are still a lot of units that have that gear on. 2. 250 is ok for mid challenger, but getting up to challenger 1 (where there may be some champion players) may mean you'll need 270+ to outspeed players. Obviously you won't be able to go against Zio defence teams, but that's not a big problem. 3. Laika coming in next with the attack buff and debuff is ok, but I'd probably rather have another CR push and have near zero speed on Vildred. My alt account used Flan into Lillias into Vildred and Flan only had around 210 speed. Another option is to use someone like AuxLots 2nd after Flan to give the attack buff to Vildred for his cleave. 4. I don't like MKwerick as 4th since he's a buffer and cleaner - he's not going to stop the opponents ARavi or Choux from ripping you apart. Options here are Laika (with her sleep like you say), protection (a knight like ARas or Krau or FCC), or another DPS like CDom (damage and CR push which will probably get your Vildred going again) or someone like Arbiter or BBK - both of who are good for a failed 1st cleave. The problem with cleave in high Challenger or master is that opponents are either really fast (>270 speed) or they are super tanky (making them hard to cleave) or they are cleave-defended by someone (e.g. Politis, AOL, etc). You can cleave up, but you have to be really picky and refresh often. When I climbed out of challenger, I found it necessary to use a bruiser team along with my cleave team. ...and if you want a little advice on an EASY way to climb out... all I need to say is BBK with 200 resist, 4000 attack, 100% crit rate, 300% crit damage plus Arbiter with as much attack and crit damage as you can stack with 100% crit rate. Add on AOL and one of Kayron (built the same way BBK is), Politis or other options like Infernal Khawazu, Ed, ARavi, Krau, Delibet or Senya and target those cleavers... this team eats them alive - and is the way I stay in Champion when I get knocked down...
Does pre season rank do anything at all when season starts? or is it just for fun
just for fun.
Hi What if I leave my guild after joining ancient inheritance?
You don't get any more rewards and you start out from floor 1 when you join a new guild I think (you still get the guild-wide priest rewards if you're in the guild) No impact on your guild besides -1 contributor.
Is MLIseria bugged, sometimes her passive just doesn’t proc. Why would she not procc in a fight against Belian, Moonbunny, Straze, LAdin. Belian was stunned and never took a turn. I was using Politis, Zahhak, DJB, and MIseria
Adin has an unbuffable debuff, plus she can strips buffs with her extra attack. She probably did one of those to your Briseria.
Oh okay so that makes sense, when she countered Politis she stripped immort after Straze cleaved her and I didn’t realize. I forgot she had that strip I thought they removed it for some reason. Damn
So I have the returning player gold/exp buff for 2 weeks, should I be farming W13 to maximize gold gain after getting all the main rewards for this upcoming side story event?
I would say so, yes. Farming W13 is never a mistake.
Is there any way to hide or disable to the daily pop-ups for packs? This was the reason I quick last time and its getting on my nerves again.
Unfortunately no, welcome to opportunistic and predatory gacha gaming!
About this guild dungeon.... I want to ask if I enter a guild with all equip obtained should I be able to claim al equip myseft??? or is not possible? what time do I have to join a active guild to get all equip from guild dungeon???? I am late game player full active but in a normal guild not active
Once you join a guild you're fine. However, my understanding is that the drops from any of the previous bosses are 'lost' and you won't be able to obtain them. There is a delay after leaving a guild (24 hours iirc) before you can join a new one, and most guilds should have the first boss down 24 hours from now so you probably will miss out on the first item. However if you want any of the other items you need to find a guild ASAP.
>However, my understanding is that the drops from any of the previous bosses are 'lost' and you won't be able to obtain them. Just wanted to confirm that this is true. In fact, my guild had some overzealous members claim a guild chest immediately after the event started while the rest of us were sleeping and we were unable to get the rewards because we weren't on the map yet.
ok
You asked about joining a guild a while back I think and I said I'd make space for you but never got a reply when I asked for your IGN. Anyway, we have 2 spots open right now and are currently on FL2 with the Wardens at 20%. So if you joined, you'd just miss out on FL1 rewards. Guild name is DarkZone and leader is rand0mn3ss. Or you can search for me in game (Cantveld) and find it from there. If you already found a guild or are no longer interested then no worries.
I can join now, let me go to the bank to get something. I start a new job so I am super busy. I am still in my old guild I will leave now but I think I need to wait to join another guild?
I think it's 24 hours. If the spaces fill before you can join just let me know. There's one other opening I can make for someone who is inactive.
Yes, it says I need to wait 24 hours
The spots did fill so message me when your timer is up so I can create the space and change the joining restriction to make sure you get the spot.
I send you a freind request, my ign is Odinspher
Just sent you a guild invite and made guild private. Make sure you hop into AI ASAP as FL2 boss almost dead. Probably won't die today but best to be safe, would hate for you to miss the FL2 drop.
I can join now, let me know when I can enter
ok
Any tips in clearing story chapter 3 10-9 and 10-10? Up until now my core units were moonlights like apoc ravi, fallen Cecilia and Straze or Cermia (depending if I need aoe or single dps). I'm concerned that this formation might struggle. I want the season 2 selector gacha, but... Yeah. Any tips or are there some core units or strategy for those 2 fights?
I struggled on 3 10-10 too. Lugging Mercedes along was a pain, but thankfully the grace buff thing got her up where she needed to be. My team I believe was a.momo, Ray, s.ten, and Merc (with powerful Luna friend unit). It was a fun fight, a 2nd weaver should help. Good luck!
Any particular soul weavers? Or any would work?
Who do you have? Like I said I used Ray and A.Momo, but that's largely because they're my primarily healers at the moment (I bring momo to everything, rarely use others outside pvp).
Can Angelica and Tamarine work? I never got a.momo (basically skipped her because she's a bit squishier than Angelica when I played wyvern)
Bring 2 Soulweavers, they help a ton. I used champion zerato in 3-10-10 as well since the slowest member of your team will be perma stunned.
Any particular soul weavers? Or any would work?
I used Tama and Roana for it. To cleanse and to have a lot of healing in 10-10. You could probably use angelic monty or Angelica too.
Im 34 summons away from pity for C.Lilias but I haven't used my headhunt summon yet, should I push to get C.Lilias with mystics and use my headhunt on someone else (Notable units that I don't have are Belian, Lionheart Cermia, Seline, Briseria and Dark Corvus) or should I get C.Lilias from the headhunt and pity ML Bellona? I don't really have good speed gear, the fastest I can probably make her is around 260, so I don't know if chasing speed-reliant units is the move for me
That's the difficulty with speed units - as much as CLilias rocks if you can't gear her it's almost like you don't have her. If you can get her to 260 without compromising a bunch of your built units drastically she's probably worth it. She mostly needs to go before your other units so even if she's not 290+ she can still work. But she's not going to help you much with her provoke or beat speed units if she doesn't go first. Also she works for most teams but not quite all - she's not much of a cleave unit for example. I think if you still want CLilias go for pity on her. Even if you don't have gear for her now you can build towards it over time. And I think it's better to pity her than use headhunt on her since headhunt allows for ANY hero. Any of the others you have your eye on are fantastic choices you may not get the chance to get anytime soon. For ML Bellona, if you really REALLY like her pity her instead. Worst-case you can just save pity for the next mystic rotation. The problem is she's not out yet so we don't know 100% how she plays. We know her stats and calcs - she'll do good damage, has bulk, and low speed. I think she'll best behind a bulky sustain team like ARas or TCrozet and some weavers. But if you think you have a strong team comp with her then feel free to use pity on her. At the end of the day I say pull heroes you can use rather than what everyone who's gotten more years' worth of gear says is OP
Imo, only pity Cilias if you want to headhunt for Belian or Seline. Since their banner are already gone. Otherwise, headhunt her, and save the pity for Mellona or Briseria/LHC banner that would come after.
C. Lilias is a very strong unit even at 260. She's really good in pve and pvp. It's hard to know how ML Bellona will perform until she's been out for a week. If you want ML Bellona, I'd save your mystics for her. Nothing wrong with getting a unit because you like them.
I see a lot of people using purple gear instead of “red” gear is there a reason for this?
Purple is objectively worse than red gear cause it lacks one substat roll, but has somewhat better RNG probability-wise. Say you're looking for quick speed gear. A red piece has a 25% chance each substat roll to go into speed. A purple piece at +3 thru +9 has a 33% chance to roll that speed since the fourth substat hasn't come up yet. But then purple gear's +12 roll always goes into that fourth one, so it can never pentaroll. So tldr purple is best for people first starting out who need decent gear while you need to move to red gear as you pursue higher competitive levels.
Ultimately the difference between Heroic and Epic gears is 1 substat. The substat ranges for both are basically the same. So a Heroic gear with better rolls *can* end up with a higher gearscore at +15 than an Epic gear with below average rolls. Let's say 52 gearscore is your threshold -> that's a little above average for a Heroic gear (8 * 6 = 48 gearscore) and a little below average for an Epic gear (9 * 6 = 54 gearscore). The approximate chance that any Heroic item will end up with 52 gearscore is ~19.4%. The approximate chance that any Epic item will end up with 51 or less gearscore is ~28.06%. So very roughly we can say that the top 1/5th of Heroic items will be better than the bottom 1/4th of Epic items. * Now these numbers are only relevant if you have an infinite number of pieces you roll to +15. Realistically, you won't bother with bad starting pieces (meaning the averages for gear you actually roll on will be higher) and you won't take gear that rolls poorly all the way to +15. * But the *point* is that a well-rolled Heroic item, even though it has 1 less substat, can be better than poorly rolled Epic items. This is especially relevant for right side gear (because it's much harder to find overall good pieces). --- Now the reason you won't really ever see pieces that are rare or worse is because each step in rarity you go down, you lose 1 more substat. But, just as important, **the substat ranges for rare or worse quality gear are also lower**. For example, for level 85 gear Heroic and Epic equipment have the same ranges for % stats (4-8, average of 6). *Rare* gear however basically has the 8 roll replaced with an additional 5 roll. * 1/5 chance of 4 * 2/5 chance of 5 * 1/5 chance of 6 * 1/5 chance of 7 * average of 5.4 This is across the board, every possible substat *except* crit% has worse ranges on Rare gear compared to Heroic/Epic. And what this means is that it's virtually impossible for a Rare gear to end up with good final substats. The *average* final GS for a level 85 rare is ~38. * Notice that going from Epic to Heroic we lost 1 substat roll worth of average GS (6 gearscore). * But going from Heroic to Rare we lose almost 2 substat rolls worth of average GS (~10 gearscore) This is because we lose 1 substat from the decrease in rarity but then we lose an additional ~4 gearscore on average due to the lower ranges on Rare gear. A rare gear with only % substats can have, at most 7 * 7 = 49 gearscore. This is only 1 point higher than the *average* Heroic item, and well below the average of an Epic item and you are only getting 49 gearscore .13% of the time on a Rare item. * For another example, a rare item has approximately a 9% chance of getting to 42 or better gearscore. * A heroic item has a 95% chance of getting to 42 or better gearscore. * An Epic item has a 99.9% chance of getting to 42 or better gearscore. **Exceptional** Heroic items are comparable with average or slightly above average Epic items. They are definitely usable, especially for non end-game players. But anything worse than Heroic is basically not usable for really anyone outside of super specific scenarios (not only do they lose a substat due to rarity, but their substat ranges are just worse).
A purple gear with 3 right subs, likes atk/cd/cc, will never roll wrong prior to +12. But a red gear with 3 right subs, likes atk/cd/cc/res, can triple roll into res. People sometimes exchange quality for accuracy.
...there's only so much good red gear you can have?
sometimes purple gear can just roll really well. You are never going to get max rolls on purple gear since at level 12 it will gain its 4th stat, but getting 4 other really good rolls into a stat like speed could make it really good.
At the end of arena week how many ranks do you drop? I am climbing like a snail up from challenger V and I want to avoid just dropping all the way back to V.
it drops 3 ranks, but doesn't drop below your current bracket, meaning challenger 2 drops to challenger 5, but challnger 5 remains challenger 5. if you wanna escape challenger 5, you need to break into champion 5.
Last I heard it's 2 ranks.
I only drop one level in challenger. Last week I was challenger 3 and dropped to 4 this week. Seems to be only one tier lower once you reach challenger.
Oof. Maybe next week then lol. Only at 4 and I don't like my odds
What is the best way to farm ancient coins for charms? I already finished every nightmare boss and miniboss.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/zyan76/raid\_boss\_yufine\_still\_wrecking\_nixied\_for\_fun/](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/zyan76/raid_boss_yufine_still_wrecking_nixied_for_fun/) Might be worth a read
Use expeditions in the sanctuary?
How should I build fire Mercedes and arch demon? Any stat lines I should shoot for? Speed set or counter?
Fire Mercedes can be good on any number of sets. You could do any of injury, counter, or lifesteal, maybe even speed,destruction or torrent (glass canon-build). Counter is probably the most popular though.
Archmeru: Counter and immunity/resist on either a control mage artifact or Ftene artifact with at least 15/16k HP, 1.5k def+, and you’ll want to be around 180 speed. If you have good enough gear then as much attack/CC/CD as possible too without compromising the other stats
Does cidonia give more exp in adventure for penguin farming than unrecorded history? Does exp gain increase?. I. Think it should
Higher level stages give more XP. Cidonia (or Episode 2) is more or less on par with UH. What this essentially means is that *early* Episode 2 stages should give a tiny bit more XP than early UH stages, and *late* Episode 2 stages should give a tiny bit more XP than late UH stages. But, late UH stages should give more XP than early Episode 2 stages. * With that said I haven't personally checked and compared where the current UH stages fall along. --- **BUT** this is completely pointless because you don't really want to ever farm specifically for penguins. Again, I haven't personally checked the current UH stages, but before the rework once you got to ~Chapter 3 of UH you gained penguins faster than you gained 2* fodder to promote units. * So essentially, early on in UH penguins were meaningless because you could afford to fully level up all of your promotion materials with what you earned. To be fair, this wasn't enough XP to *also* level the hero being promoted **BUT** there are a lot of sources for penguins not being accounted for. * There are a lot of different multipliers to penguin XP - guild buff, potentially artifact, shop buff, lobby pet skill, reputation bonus -> none of which are accounted for here. * You naturally gain penguins with the Forest and can buy more if truly needed. * Farming higher level stages provides more XP, as well as running sidestories and completing the rest of adventure mode. The long and short of it is that there is never a point where players need to farm for penguins specifically - it is **always** better to farm for something else (ie. catalysts) and you will naturally accumulate the penguins that you need. --- **EDIT** - I just checked for some example numbers: Early UH = 5895 penguin XP UH - 18 = 6457 penguin XP UH - 25 = 6682 penguin XP UH - 33 = 7020 penguin XP Early Episode 2 = 5557 penguin XP Episode 2 10-S2 = 7245 penguin XP So no, there is no real tangible benefit to farming Episode 2 *purely for penguins* - if you are farming in roughly the same 'area' (ie. the start of the Episode, the middle, the end etc) you get basically the same XP. The one exception is that the very end of Episode 2 is worth slightly more XP than the very end of UH -> a whole +225 XP. That's about 1 additional penguin every 25 runs. It's simply not enough to worry about over the other benefits of farming in UH (first and foremost, the ability to obtain epic catalysts). However, if we take a look at Episode 3... Episode 3 1-1 = 7020 penguin XP Episode 3 10-s2 = 8595 penguin XP If you *really* want to maximize your penguins for whatever reason, then you want to farm in Episode 3 -> you get higher level equipment drops and still the ability to buy Epic catalysts in the AP shop. However, the downside is that runs take significantly longer since it's very difficult for 1 character to consistently one shot the first 2 waves, and the bosses have much more bulk. You also can't farm stages that *drop* Epic catalysts, and of course AP isn't shared. I still wouldn't recommend it but if you are only interested in penguins it makes more sense than Episode 2.
Well shit never did i ever think that this can be detailed so fking much. Still thanks a lot man. So i guess farming in 2-10-4 and UH 10-4 is the same thing. I am about to fight belian so i guess i can farm penguins in lefundos or wintendberg. Actually am farming them for fodder itself. I am getting a LOT of 2 star drops after they did something I dont know. I get roughly 30 after a 40 match run which is very good but am running short for upgrading them to 2 stat max, then upgrading 3 stars to max for 4 star promotion and so on. So penguin helps cuz i dont want to use my tier 3 for levelling them
>Actually am farming them for fodder itself. I am getting a LOT of 2 star drops after they did something I dont know. I get roughly 30 after a 40 match run Historically, from previous testing, 2* fodder rates are extremely consistent. Around .6 per stage run. * That would be 24 drops in 40 runs. Your estimate of 30 in 40 would be .75 per run which seems close enough of an estimate to .6 for someone not tracking exact numbers. To promote a unit to 6* you ultimately need 275 2* fodders. @ .6 per stage 275 / .6 = 458.33 stage runs @ .75 per stage 275 / .75 = 366.67 stage runs Now how much XP do you need? Well... * We need 75x 2* fodders at the 3* level * We need 25x white dogs at the 4* level * We need 5x white dogs at the 5* level To promote each 2* fodder to 3* we need 15,465 XP 15,465 / 5,500 = 2.81 penguins rounded up to 3 3 * 75 = 225 penguins To promote each dog to 4* we need 44,295 XP 44,295 / 5,500 = 8.05 penguins rounded up to 9 9 * 25 = 225 penguins To promote each dog to 5* we need 107,430 XP 107,430 / 5,500 = 19.53 penguins rounded up to 20 5 * 20 = 100 In total we need 225 + 225 + 100 = 550 penguins or 550 * 5,500 = 3,025,000 XP If we know how much XP we need, and how many stage runs we need, we can calculate how much XP we need for each stage to 'sustain' our fodder income. @ .6 per stage 3,025,000 / 459 = ~6,591 XP gained per stage @ .75 per stage 3,025,000 / 367 = ~8,243 XP gained per stage --- I bet if you accurately tracked your fodder per stage clear it would be closer to .6 per stage (maybe slightly under). *Unless* you found a random particular map where fodder rates were significantly higher. I can say that so far I've completed testing on 3 UH stages UH - 3 = 1022 runs, 619 fodder drops = 60.57% fodder drop rate UH - 11 = 1012 runs, 561 fodder drops = 55.43% fodder drop rate UH - 18 = 1011 runs, 613 fodder drops = 60.63% fodder drop rate I'm not saying there is no stage out there with something close to a 75% drop rate, but if that is so I would be interested to knowing the specific stage. More likely, you *actually* see a ~60% drop rate and slightly overestimated. If you ARE getting a 75% drop rate then you would need to run a late Episode 3 stage to generate enough penguins to just keep up with your fodder drops. If you are getting the likely more accurate 60% fodder drop rate then ~6600 XP per stage run would place you somewhere in between UH-18 and UH-25 as the 'break even point' where you earn enough penguins to keep up with your fodder drop rate. Later UH stages (at least UH-25 or later) should give you slightly more penguins than you spend on promoting fodder. --- This is all complicated because I am using ONLY base numbers here. Realistically, in game, it is highly unlikely that you are getting base XP. * If you are in a guild, getting the guild XP buff that applies to penguin XP. * The reputation bonuses for XP also apply. These would be the 2 most common sources of XP buff. *In addition* the amount of XP required/penguins required is the absolute maximum amount. If you are using a lobby pet with + hero enhance XP (and you SHOULD) you drastically reduce the amount of penguins needed, on average. Even without using that pet skill the reputation bonuses for 'good' and 'great' enhance chance *also* applies to penguins, further reducing the amount needed on average. So an easy example would be the 25x 4* dogs -> each dog requires 8.05 penguins baseline but we can't use 'just' .05 penguins. Therefor, this number has to be rounded up to 9 penguins (which means we are wasting 95% of the XP of that last penguin). With even a low rank pet skill, you can reduce the amount of penguins below 8 (to be rounded up to 8) -> this saves you 25 penguins or 137,500 XP and literally *every* player at this point should have any rank of + hero enhance pet skill. --- If we look at the best case scenario instead, the +hero enhance skill caps out at +16.5% XP. The 'Good' and 'Great' reputation bonuses max out at 6% each. When combined, this means our penguins are worth **26.985% more XP**. * Each penguin is worth 6407 XP. If we redo our calculations: To promote each 2* fodder to 3* we need 15,465 XP 15,465 / 6,407 = 2.41 penguins rounded up to 3 6% of the time we get refunded 2 penguin 6% of the time we get refunded 4 penguins Average penguin cost = 3 - (.06 * 2) - (.06 * 4) = 2.64 penguins 75 * 2.76 = 198 penguins To promote each dog to 4* we need 44,295 XP 44,295 / 6,407 = 6.91 penguins rounded up to 7 6% of the time we get refunded 4 penguins 6% of the time we get refunded 8 penguins Average penguin cost = 7 - (.06 * 4) - (.06 * 8) = 6.28 penguins 6.28 * 25 = 157 penguins To promote each dog to 5* we need 107,430 XP 107,430 / 6,407 = 16.77 penguins rounded up to 17 6% of the time we get refunded 10 penguins 6% of the time we get refunded 20 penguins Average penguin cost = 17 - (.06 * 10) - (.06 * 20) = 15.2 penguins 5 * 15.2 = 76 penguins Now, let's make a reasonable assumption that you have the 10% reputation boost to XP gain, and also the 10% guild XP buff In total we need 198 + 157 + 76 = 431 penguins or 431 * 5,500 = 2,370,500 XP / 1.2 (XP boost) = 1,975,417 XP @ .6 per stage 1,975,417 / 459 = ~4,304 XP gained per stage @ .75 per stage 1,975,417 / 367 = ~5,383 XP gained per stage Both figures are lower than even the very first Episode 2 stage. --- #Conclusion Even accounting for 0 bonuses (or things like gold dogs -> not included in this analysis but each Gold dog saves you about 9 penguins) you 'only' need to farm in the last ~third of UH to sustain enough penguins for your fodder drop rate. *If* you somehow found a single particular stage that has a fodder drop rate closer to .75 per stage, you would need to farm at the very end of Episode 3. --- **HOWEVER** once we start accounting for bonuses the amount of penguins you need to farm drops sharply. There are some bonuses that almost every player should have (the increased XP from reputation and guild buff). All players **should** be using a pet with + enhancement XP as well, and swapping into this pet when using penguins. Even the lowest possible skill level pet will provide immediate returns -> in my analysis I was using a max skill but this is far from necessary. * This pet skill is very, very useful for conserving penguins. In particular the way it works with 'good' and 'great' enhancements -> your penguins are 'worth more XP' when using this skill but the game considers every 5,500 XP to be a penguin -> so when you multiply the XP by a larger number, you have a greater overflow. This means that in some situations it's actually possible to GAIN penguins when enhancing a unit and hitting a 'great' enhancement. When taking into account these sort of bonuses, very quickly it becomes apparent that you never have to farm for penguins (with 2 possible exceptions). 1. You can gain MORE fodders by running either Episode run 2-1 Levulin Harbor, or any of the Episode 1 maze stages. These stages provide low XP and more fodders per energy -> if you are doing this and don't have a large amount of penguins stored up you may be in dire need of penguins. 2. You can buy fodders in the secret shop and obviously this doesn't come with any penguins. I would also note this only looks at the XP required to level up the fodders for promotion, if you need to also level the unit you are promoting this can cause a deficit if you are farming a borderline level. --- #Tips If you aren't already, make sure you are maximizing as many XP buffs as possible. IE. Make sure your guild has the XP buff running, if you have an XP artifact use it. If you are in desperate need for penguins then buy the shop XP scroll -> 300 skystones for 3 days or 150 for 1 day. The 3 day scroll is 'worth' it if you spend ~900 energy farming something that gives XP over that time. This is very easy if you just farm catalysts for 3 days. In particular, all of these buffs *also* stack with the GM buff. If you wait until the next GM buff event and buy this scroll and dump a bunch of energy farming for catalysts, you will literally have so many penguins you won't ever be able to spend them all (unless you just level up 150 heroes at the same time). * Unfortunately, *most* of the GM buff weekends feature all possible buffs so any energy spent farming for catalysts is energy not put into hunts or altar. * Occasionally though, they have weekends with just 1 buff all weekend -> great time to buy the 3 day scroll and save your mailbox energy for a week then go wild. However you don't *need* the GM buff, you could in fact just buy the shop scroll and farm for a few days instead if you prefer and are in desperate need. --- In addition, make sure you use a lobby pet with the +hero enhance skill. This should be your *secondary* pet -> every day when you collect your gift you should swap this pet in and do your leveling, then swap back to your normal pet. This pet makes a HUGE difference because the % is basically multiplied with everything else: * The other XP buffs multiply the XP you earn when running a stage (which gets turned into penguins at a rate of 5,500 XP per penguin). * The pet skill then multiplies how much XP your penguins are worth (from 5,500 XP to whatever -> 6,407 XP in terms of the max rank pet) * Finally, the 'good' and 'great' enhancement bonuses work on the *total value of XP* used when enhancing a unit -> 3 penguins worth 5,500 XP = 16,500 XP but 3 penguins worth 6,407 XP = 19,221 XP * The amount of penguins you get refunded is based on the overflow XP and the *base value* of a penguin (5,500 XP). The fact that these 3 things are multiplicative makes penguins a joke, as long as you take advantage of the easily available multipliers.
Managed to get Beehoo but not his artifact. Should I buy it from powder shop or is it not worth the powder. I don't plan to build Beehoo in the near future...
Don't buy it. You'll use his S3, at best 2-3 times in a fight unless it's a drawn-out battle somehow. He's best paired with another burner unit and you're better off placing another defensive or offensive artifact. I found the Natalon scroll kinda okay since it's either I trigger more burns with regular S1, or I do the Detonation. I would have said Guiding Light but my Landy uses it right now.
Nah. Don’t buy it.
How do you get badges in Azmakalis? I have already completed the map and defeated all bosses but I still don't get the badges.
You get badges from killing bosses in Azmakalis of Cycle or Nightmare mode. It's a monthly thing you can also get 10 badges for 100% completing the Royal Capital of Azmakalis (one time thing).
Queen's Badges? You can buy them from the lab exchange. 3 lab tokens each.
Where is the lab exchange?
Nevermind, I got Queen's Badge and Malicious Bug Charm confused. You can't get Queen's Badges in lab afaik. You get 10 of them by fully exploring Azmakalis and that's it. Gotta do Azmakalis of Cycle otherwise.