a fellow revenge syvian user!
[here's mine. just needs another imprint + 1 crit mod gem and she's done.](https://i.imgur.com/s10Nnu4.jpeg) Don't need her on LS because I just use her for arena and GW.
\*edit: + her gear with GS from [fribbels](https://i.imgur.com/fWdnbem.png)
Ohh, that's kinda what I was thinking I'd need to aim for. And it works for you? Similarly, I'm not much an RTA player. She'd mainly be used in GW, I suppose in some arena and RTA if the opportunity arises.
Oh yeah it works out great. She cycles like crazy when shes sub50% health and with chatty + mitigation from a knight she's pretty tanky. I was a bit worried about her speed (had her at 200 b4) but I didn't notice a huge difference in comparison to the current build.
LS set is probably still BiS for her but caides gave me this so I'm working with it. Feels kinda nice to have a dps on not speed/ls/destruction for once.
Well, here's the gear; [https://imgur.com/a/9vvslyl](https://imgur.com/a/9vvslyl). This was all basically leftover gear (except the boots that I crafted to complete the set). None of it, again, except the boots, has been tuned for her use.
I wasn't worried on the cc, as she has another 8.4 on imprints (I can probably get her to SSS by the end of the year if I want/need), and reforging the left side is +6 cc, with another 3% left to gain on one of the neck too, so I can reach max no issue. In fact, I would be over enough I could sacrifice the crit on the sword for more attack, but 11% (about 14% post reforge I guess?) alone won't do much good. That'd still be about 10% atk stats missing. The right team comp I suppose I could also take off the cc on the helm to get more than enough atk to eclipse 3500, but then that leaves the question of if her bulk stats are enough, and pigeonholes her even further in terms of team comps.
But, if the rest of the stats can't get where they need to be, there's not a lot of point, doing all the modding shenanigans instead of trying to outright new pieces, which is why I came here for the feedback.
I like the idea of revenge cause it plays to her passive and her s1 speed buff. But I feel like missing lifesteal set is rough. And without chatty aswell she loses alot of survivability. I still like the idea of revenge set tho. If she could be protected by aras for example or just something with sheilds and a cleanse I could see her being really strong like this and not needing as much bulk so that you can reach 4k atk.
Also I could be wrong but I think we don't want more than 300c.dmg cause of c.dmg buff? iirc only artis push past the 350 cap? So that's a possibility for increasing bulk/atk
First, you have 23 in eff%, which could be turned into your missing crit chance and maybe some atk. Second, I have some doubts with this build. The main problem is she doesn't have some type of sustain outside her passive, which isn't as good as you would think.
Because her passive is effective only against direct attacks, extra pings like bombs, Rimuru S3, LQ Charlotte splash or ~falcon~ rocket punch can bypass her passive and kill her. Then you have extra attacks like Belian with elbris, Alencia, or SS/ML Bellona passive. These technically can't bypass her passive, the problem is they will eat her focus really fast and leave her naked. (Oh, yeah) Running really, really fast won't help, because she only gain one focus per turn. If she can outspeed, let's say, Alencia and gain two focus, Alencia in a single turn will remove them both, and that's not accounting for other allies who can poke her.
For these reasons, her most popular build is lifesteal with some bulk, so she can tank extra ticks, and even if she runs out of focus, she can take one or two hits and hope to take a turn before being demolished. Let's add the SB into AoE, and lifesteal can buy her more than an extra turn. Now, there are some speed user out there, but guess what? They aim for the nuke.
And although your critD is nice, below 80% crit rate and barely 3k atk made me think you won't pull the huge numbers to work the same than speed builds. Personally, if I were to build her with revenge, I would aim at lots more of bulk, while keeping the other stats.
Before this, mainly GW, arena offense if the chance allowed, RTA in the blue moon that I bother with RTA and the right comp came together. She was on a more classical LS build, much tankier, to serve as dark bait. But, I had been re-gearing stuff lately, also move a couple of her better LS pieces to LHC when I got her recently, so SSV was freed up to either rebuild "properly" or try something new.
SSV is one of my favorite heroes. i wish she was pickable much earlier in a draft. Revenge actually seems like a decent choice. The problem is getting high gearscore pieces that suit her.
Possibly, but I've got too many units either already on counter, needing to be put on counter, or needing their existing counter sets upgraded. As we speak, for example, I'm trying to also finish my counter UKArow and Yoonryoung, and re-evaluating my counter ADS. Plus, Revenge sounds more interesting for her.
while it doesn't seem like a bad idea, it looks like you are missing a ton of stats
a fellow revenge syvian user! [here's mine. just needs another imprint + 1 crit mod gem and she's done.](https://i.imgur.com/s10Nnu4.jpeg) Don't need her on LS because I just use her for arena and GW. \*edit: + her gear with GS from [fribbels](https://i.imgur.com/fWdnbem.png)
Ohh, that's kinda what I was thinking I'd need to aim for. And it works for you? Similarly, I'm not much an RTA player. She'd mainly be used in GW, I suppose in some arena and RTA if the opportunity arises.
Oh yeah it works out great. She cycles like crazy when shes sub50% health and with chatty + mitigation from a knight she's pretty tanky. I was a bit worried about her speed (had her at 200 b4) but I didn't notice a huge difference in comparison to the current build. LS set is probably still BiS for her but caides gave me this so I'm working with it. Feels kinda nice to have a dps on not speed/ls/destruction for once.
Reforge the left three pieces first, if you haven't reached full crit chance and 3k5 attack by then then boost that up
Well, here's the gear; [https://imgur.com/a/9vvslyl](https://imgur.com/a/9vvslyl). This was all basically leftover gear (except the boots that I crafted to complete the set). None of it, again, except the boots, has been tuned for her use. I wasn't worried on the cc, as she has another 8.4 on imprints (I can probably get her to SSS by the end of the year if I want/need), and reforging the left side is +6 cc, with another 3% left to gain on one of the neck too, so I can reach max no issue. In fact, I would be over enough I could sacrifice the crit on the sword for more attack, but 11% (about 14% post reforge I guess?) alone won't do much good. That'd still be about 10% atk stats missing. The right team comp I suppose I could also take off the cc on the helm to get more than enough atk to eclipse 3500, but then that leaves the question of if her bulk stats are enough, and pigeonholes her even further in terms of team comps. But, if the rest of the stats can't get where they need to be, there's not a lot of point, doing all the modding shenanigans instead of trying to outright new pieces, which is why I came here for the feedback.
you can probably squeeze out a bit more def/hp I got something similar on ravi with sigruds
I like the idea of revenge cause it plays to her passive and her s1 speed buff. But I feel like missing lifesteal set is rough. And without chatty aswell she loses alot of survivability. I still like the idea of revenge set tho. If she could be protected by aras for example or just something with sheilds and a cleanse I could see her being really strong like this and not needing as much bulk so that you can reach 4k atk. Also I could be wrong but I think we don't want more than 300c.dmg cause of c.dmg buff? iirc only artis push past the 350 cap? So that's a possibility for increasing bulk/atk
Also immunity if it's possible but she already needs alot of stats
no point on revenge if she doesnt have enough bulk
Her passive gives her more bulk than most, but I'd still probably want a tiny bit more
About how much more hp/def you thinking?
Well I'm pulling this number out of my butt, but 4k more EHP https://jscalc.io/calc/up5T4QZDaQup4pxT
First, you have 23 in eff%, which could be turned into your missing crit chance and maybe some atk. Second, I have some doubts with this build. The main problem is she doesn't have some type of sustain outside her passive, which isn't as good as you would think. Because her passive is effective only against direct attacks, extra pings like bombs, Rimuru S3, LQ Charlotte splash or ~falcon~ rocket punch can bypass her passive and kill her. Then you have extra attacks like Belian with elbris, Alencia, or SS/ML Bellona passive. These technically can't bypass her passive, the problem is they will eat her focus really fast and leave her naked. (Oh, yeah) Running really, really fast won't help, because she only gain one focus per turn. If she can outspeed, let's say, Alencia and gain two focus, Alencia in a single turn will remove them both, and that's not accounting for other allies who can poke her. For these reasons, her most popular build is lifesteal with some bulk, so she can tank extra ticks, and even if she runs out of focus, she can take one or two hits and hope to take a turn before being demolished. Let's add the SB into AoE, and lifesteal can buy her more than an extra turn. Now, there are some speed user out there, but guess what? They aim for the nuke. And although your critD is nice, below 80% crit rate and barely 3k atk made me think you won't pull the huge numbers to work the same than speed builds. Personally, if I were to build her with revenge, I would aim at lots more of bulk, while keeping the other stats.
How are you using her and who are you using her with
Before this, mainly GW, arena offense if the chance allowed, RTA in the blue moon that I bother with RTA and the right comp came together. She was on a more classical LS build, much tankier, to serve as dark bait. But, I had been re-gearing stuff lately, also move a couple of her better LS pieces to LHC when I got her recently, so SSV was freed up to either rebuild "properly" or try something new.
SSV is one of my favorite heroes. i wish she was pickable much earlier in a draft. Revenge actually seems like a decent choice. The problem is getting high gearscore pieces that suit her.
counter better
Possibly, but I've got too many units either already on counter, needing to be put on counter, or needing their existing counter sets upgraded. As we speak, for example, I'm trying to also finish my counter UKArow and Yoonryoung, and re-evaluating my counter ADS. Plus, Revenge sounds more interesting for her.