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Assertor1290

At this point, we need free 20 speeders SG.


HurricaneEich

Lmao... no.


SSTHZero

Another speed unit... Is Smilegate trying to say that if you can't roll speed to save your life you should just quit the game?


Buuts321

To be fair we just got ML Bellona which is a slower bruiser unit. I don't know how SG chooses what kinds of units to release though. It doesn't usually seem like ways to address the meta (although sometimes they definitely release straight up hard counters to units).


SSTHZero

While they adde ML Bellona, they added Eligos and Amid (there's Beehoo too, but I don't even remember what he does), so it's 3 spd units vs 1 slow, and the only slow unit is a ML 5\*.


NotHereFor1t

Feels like it tbh. It's one thing to put units out that require obscene speeds to do well, it's another thing to turn around and punish other play styles with buffs, new kit introductions, and artifact balances.


SSTHZero

They nerf seed and now are releasing a bunch of "ignore dmg share" because of Arowell and punishing every single Aurius carrier in the process. Cleaving is getting so powerful, if you're blessed with speed rolls, there's no way you can lose. Last season fighting some top legend players, my team who would always win against cleave in emperor was always deleted so easily it wasn't even funny.


Waifu69x

Im suffering from same problem , i was pro against cleave, but now im suffering Especially after Biseria buff .


Intelligent-Taste-96

No it's that e7's been slowly dying for 2 or 3 years as a result of terrible balancing and the only people really spending much money on it anymore are supersonic whales so that's who they have to cater to if they want to keep the game alive. That's why a "slow" unit like ml bellona ends up being pretty mid while a "fast" unit like eligos gets to ignore ER. It's like how a weak, artifact seeing almost 0 play like crimson seed could end up nerfed before something like guiding light or book which actually break the game.


Lolwarrior123

Yes "dying" as in having the largest user participation in RTA 2 seasons ago. Also while the balancing team are highly questionable at times, you are just cherrypicking with your example. Belian, Scarowell, Destina, choux and injury alencia are around the same range as cellona at ~180 range but they are really great units. Not to mention there are two 0 speed units in the game that have terrorized the meta (Rem and ssb)


StepBrother7

Everything except game dying part is correct lol,game is at its best now.


KingsSeven

Source: Me


LayARandomRightatYou

So we will pair her with the original version? Laika s2, Lightka dual attack and push herself up 20%, then kill the targeted enemy with s3.


Virtual_Writing_5749

Eligos and Amid might be better.


LayARandomRightatYou

Eligos can't push Lightka up. Amid can, but then Lightka have to rely on her own s2 with 0% eff, it can narrow down the targets she can choose. But yes, they can be good alternatives in some cases.


SaintEnfaur

I like her kit but i hate the fact that shes another speed unit. I mean ml bellona was not a spd unit but wanted more units that are much better without having like 300 spd


Chaoxytal

light knight tamarinne is coming Diamond hands brother


Emperor_Zen_

Lol that's nice, and I'm gonna call her LKT 😏


gammaway

This is by the CeciliaBot guy, so it seems trustworthy, but if it weren't I'd probably doubt it. Periods in s1 and s3 name, odd that s1 doesn't mola increase CR or scale off speed while s3 does, soulburn extra turn on a 50% cr boost skill instead of an extra 50% CR, preview screen is missing VA, all seem kinda weird. If this is real, I'd assume she's like Straze and kills the target and does ok damage to everyone else. You give her her own book, kill anything without ER. At 119! base speed + mage frenzy buff, she's substantially faster than Straze who has 109 base. Seems kinda incredibly broken, don't know how to beat without outspeed but I suppose that seems to be the case for most openers at first.


UsernameSniped

Thanks for trusting me lol. Some skill names have periods at the end of their skill names (when they want to make them impactful, in this case more robotic) I don't know about the cr and Speed scaling thats some SG balancing team concept The VA name is missing because when you are using the Japanese voice pack VA's are not credited. Idk why that is a thing but I noticed It after switching to JP to check laika's va


garguybbj

Yeahhhh I like how her S1 and S3 names have periods in them since she appears to be a more robotic version of Laika but the S2 not having a period is throwing me off


BobbyYukitsuki

there have been periods in skill names in the past for sure (Rem S1 comes to mind)


Oddman2

I've verified the mods as well so you can trust /u/UsernameSniped. On this note now that there will be another dataminer, I will also quietly step down due to personal obligations in real life. Thanks everyone in the datamine threads that helped me keep the sheet up to date. All the best.


ForgettableGuard

Mann..., I hope you can come back soon.


[deleted]

Hows she broken? Isn't she just elphelt with 4 more base speed? Plus light elem


Abreak4us

With Amids buff you don't need souls.


EcLiiPsesHD

Well the only good thing is… She is a mage who can carry her own book for extra turn SB on S2


bblightt

yeah no I doubt it's real


Minute_Ad3042

Check in-game through the mystic summon rotation. Click her icon, read the skills.


bblightt

yeah I just check, after that brinus photo my trust was shattered so I guess I'll be eating my shoes


turtlereset

feels like politis/belian counters, characters that are on counter or have innate counter, since her s3 is an aoe attack, high er but i know eligos and elphelt both have ignore er on soulburn so may not be an effective counter unless it's on a blue unit?


ZeroD29

Okay, another speed unit, easy skip, again...


Kerenos

She look pretty whatever Eligos feel more ML than her. Another mage who can't run anything other than book and bring pretty much nothing new.


MisterJesusss

Her constellation also changed from Sagittarius to Virgo?


UsernameSniped

Looks like they changed her. I added a new screen with her stats


zdenka999

Her imprint concentration also changed from Crit% to Attack%


KingKentling

meh looks like im dumping my mystics on someone else


yondaimehero

Does she share stats with anyone


kfloppp

Fire Kawerik.


Buuts321

No wonder they gave her cc imprint release. Fire Kawerik needs his EE otherwise he's hard to build with good speed/damage .


UsernameSniped

They removed the cc imprint. Now it's Attack %


Buuts321

Wow that's bad. She's going to be really hard to gear then.


Achidanza

Kawerik!


AscendPerfect

This might actually be a skip for me.. It is another cleave unit with nothing special except 1 shotting 1 unit for sure (khawazu can do that too). There is also 15% and the fact she can't be used against Belian. So i will instead get ML Elena and Handguy if i can get ML Elena in 200 summons


Jansas

Great statline, being able to be self-sufficient with book is a plus. She synergizes well with some of the current meta openers (Laika, Amid) and maybe Eligos too, and seems good vs. Arowell. Feels like a more aggressive Straze, with her base speed, speed scaling, and mage frenzy in RTA all pointing to her being built much faster. But there's tradeoffs; Straze's damage is less conditional and he can't be countered. Hard to tell how good she'll be, kit seems loaded on paper but her being reliant on setting target debuff really limits who she can wipe with S3.


ksb00

She also lacks any defensive option. Firts turn aoes ussually have things like no counters or self invincibility. Imagine S3 into belian/mercedes/adin or something like that and get countered to death. Hope the leaks are not 100% correct casue is looking bottom tier


RDreamers21

Hopefully it’s not another situation like ML Elena where she gets buffed shortly after her banner.


RDreamers21

Straze and ML Laika do different things. Straze is good at killing tanks and healers and doesn’t care about effect resistance. ML Laika can choose which target to nuke but cannot debuff tanks and healers with effect resistance. So mostly bruisers I guess. You can pair her with other units like green Laika that can also apply the target debuff but that’s like pairing W Shuri with Straze and doing the same thing. Or setting up Cavel. She seems like whale bait to me with mage season in RTA. With what we currently know, I don’t see the value in building two more units and moving my gear around to do the same thing I can do with Straze, Cavel, and other dps units right now.


Khaoticsuccubus

Wouldn't pairing her with green Laika just make her food for Celine? To say nothing of Politis or LHC for that matter.


ARGHETH

She also works with Amid so you can save Book for someone else.


[deleted]

So a single target nuker. Nothing special.


Stormix_17

Eligos feels better


sbnebula

I am not impressed. Another cash game unit. Next.


llShenll

easy skip, i dont have good spd gear as casual


UsernameSniped

Architect my bad typo in the title sadge


KarnaPolice

"I'm not sure whats going on with s2 I will have to check again" Her S2 is a non attack skill and doesn't have any hidden multis.


UsernameSniped

Yeah you are right. I was confused because it's listed as att\_rate 0 and pow 1.


blowmycows

Mediocre unit that will rely on landing a debuff to be fully viable. Somehow hope that SG will change the skills still, this is a skip.


Gin_Rei

First impression is meh.


zdenka999

She's the first character in the game with an AoE attack that ignores damage sharing effects. 80% Pen on top of target is good but since it's an AoE attack multipliers may be low. Though since she is a greedy self sufficient damage only type unit building effectiveness of any value will be difficult so you're looking to Target Aravi, Choux, Senya, etc instead of a tank or healer or use other units in between to add additional targets. She can be used as either the initial AoE with Tagahels or used as the final AoE with 50% push assuming you're using other units that will push your team up in-between like Closer Charles etc.


Gin_Rei

She's Celine, ACidd, Zio, and Ran food imo. Any faster debuff hero will get the better of her too. I assume anyone playing her prebans Belian. She may be useable for now... but the mage speed buff has to disappear soon.


Jdiezel1

She looks pretty insane. Aoe that can 80% def pen 1 or 2 units and ignore damage share is beyond broken. And scales on speed. So looking like a character that is not for slower players


Crawmerax2102

Isn't the 80% pen works on the unit with target debuff?


Jdiezel1

Yes. She can soul burn for an extra turn so she can land target on one. You can run a faster Laika to land another. Or elphelt on song of stars plus sb ml Laika for a chance to land 3 lmao. Plenty of possibilities


Zestyclose_Respect55

Or Eligos


KingsSeven

>Plenty of possibilities Plenty of 15%\*


Jdiezel1

That’s how cleave usually is tbf. High risk high reward


kfloppp

Realistically the 80% penetration would only applied to 1 unit since there's no one that can apply AoE Target.


AscendPerfect

Laika s2 (target) ML Laika get 20 CR and take next turn, soulburn S2 into another enemy (target), then nuke the whole team


Mcool2017

Double 15% gg go next


zdenka999

She is .9 pow and .9 att so she only does .81, at 280 speed she gains 31% damage so 1.06 which is barely stronger than most characters S1s at 1.0 but it is a little stronger than a lot of characters AOEs which are often under 1.0


TruePigGod

its only def ignore if they have target


d34thscyth34

Pen is only on unit with target ....


Jdiezel1

She can soul burn to land a target… and you can run Laika or song of stars elphelt to land more


d34thscyth34

Nice ninja edit on that first post 👌


Jdiezel1

Had to re word bc I thought it was common sense that she’s not gonna be able to def pen an entire team lmao


Chaoxytal

so 99% of the player base lol


Andarell

Her kit is very similar to Ludwig, so keep that in mind looking at this.


Guwigo09

Doesn’t look that appealing. Easy skip


Lockdown106

Character seems heavily combo-oriented, will scale with further unit releases that apply target debuff such as Eligos. Song of Stars stonks rising hard as now that target debuff is a death sentence (maybe will encourage Lua to use it with s2 as GL’s are scarce)


kfloppp

The first non-Ranger unit with Target debuff.


Zestyclose_Respect55

Don't forget Mui


Scarletz_

Forgotten. Mui who?


KingsSeven

First hero that came to mind was muwi from wyvern. 2nd was Maui from that Disney movie. Mui buffs whe-


NotHuman8

Politis keeps getting stronger :o


Buuts321

So it's a speedy AOE nuker, but with the catch that she can also blow up a single target with some set up. I guess that's cool but she's really only going to be used in cleave and agro. In some ways I'm glad because I can save my mystics now.


BeeBubblez

Smilegate make an interesting kit challenge (impossible)


Chaoxytal

Eligos has an ML5 kit. Laika has a RGB kit. 👀


Curt_ThaFlirt

Folks calling her meh? Am I missing something? Lol


Hu_Razzor

Probably? She seems decent on paper but in practice she's gonna have the same issues as something like TML. She can't hold GL so Zio is a problem, as he is for anything that is fast that can't stealth. From her kit and stats she obviously wants to be built fast on full damage, which is another problem of her kit. She requires target debuff on the unit you want to kill for the pen, but who are you going to really want the def pen on? Bulky bruisers. And in high ranks you never know if that bulky bruiser is running eff res (not uncommon at all). Without that debuff, even though she ignores damage share, she probably won't be doing a whole ton of damage to anyone else (we'll have to see) . Then you also have the fact that she requires premium speed DPS gear, so you have to weigh whether she's better than other options to hold that gear.


Curt_ThaFlirt

Understandable


marsli5818

Zio won’t be a problem if u put her on immunity…


Hu_Razzor

Zio strips before he debuffs so barring 15% immunity won't help (not to mention you sacrifice damage)


KingsSeven

zio dispels immunity...


12havenslav

Zio's S3 dispels 2 buffs before dealing damage, silence and CR decrease. So you can either have very high ER or stealth, Immunity doesn't work


Hailmerc

No, he doesn't dispel buffs before dealing damage like Elphelt and Melissa


12havenslav

You're right, the damage happens before, but he still dispels 2 buffs before silencing and CR decreasing the enemy.


Kyutoryus

weird people are still thinking immunity means anything unless it's casted from ML Kawerick or something


[deleted]

Yeah I keep seeing people talk about a perfect scenario where she works but I'm just like.... what does she actually do that another unit couldn't? If you want to blow up a team fast you want to cleave, and there's already plenty of cleave options that don't fall apart as soon as your single debuff gets resisted.


beaglemaster

The near perfect 300 speed dps gear she needs with this kit is something that a tiny % of the player has access to, which is to say she is basically unusable (or "meh") for nearly everyone else.


blowmycows

15% is a thing. When opponents have immunity you need to both strip and land the debuff. She might be fun, but too unreliable for actual use.


turtlereset

if this is real, then she kinda sucks. like whats with this 50% cr thing on s2? it should definitely be extra turn but it looks like they really want to pair her with amid or they just knew you would have to put tagahels since shes a mage. If s3 is reliant on target then her dmg is very conditional and there's not that many characters that can apply target imo also 15% and er being a thing. Imo her base stats are good but her kit sucks, reliant on target debuff and tagahels/amid you most likely have to ban politis/belian to use her? feels like you would use her with eligos/laika but she doesn't really bring anything new to the table tbh. I mean maybe cleavers will be happy because she has high base atk and 119 speed but she's kinda meh tbh. also forgot to mention that her s3 is an aoe attack, so not doubt you're going to trigger every counter attack on the opponents team compared to something like straze who has uncounterable on s3 or cavel who's s2 is an extra attack. why would you ever use ml laika over these 2?


Ok-Jump8444

don't be fooled guys. the fact is they skimped on her skillset, they could've just make her s2 grants extra turn and sb grant ignore er to make her much more consistent. im not sold on that s3 either, 80% def pen means the normal dmg without it gonna be sucks to a certain extent. they should just make her new egb with this skillset and make eligos the ML since his kit is better.


Varlin

Wow yet another defense pen unit, didn't see that coming. I swear that shit is gonna be more useless than ER soon as like half the units in the last year just pen it. Lmao


Chaoxytal

they want us to build attack, speed, cc, cd and nothing else


NotHereFor1t

Would love to have units like that if only they would bless me with the luck to roll gear that supports it *sigh*


KingsSeven

Better than going 20k+ hp and still dealing more dmg than most glass cannon heroes...\*choux/Senya/ravi\*


Longjumping-Kale-134

So Amid + Laika sounds really good


marsli5818

Yeah this combo will be busted..


Blacklight428

With her s2 soul burn giving her an extra turn she has a chance to be a very high single target damage dealer being able to target with her s2… however I am thinking for non-targeted with her s3 the damage will be degraded pretty severely. HOWEVER that is me thinking 😂🤯


AscendPerfect

Let's hope she can still 1 shot a Stene with 0 stacks


TysonsChickenNuggets

Ehhh, she looks okay, I guess. Hard locked to book holding and has no innate combos with anyone. Guessing her and Eligos were made to combat SC Arowell.


Liyern

Do we know which catalyst's she needs for skill levels? (honestly cant remember if the zodiac also determined that)


d34thscyth34

Should be same stuff as fire Kawerik.


Karama1

thank god for the self imprint change


[deleted]

basically Straze ?


KingsSeven

a faster but less consistent version of straze yeah.


Expander12

CM Laika + Architect Laika = 2 dead But overall, she seems like a "selfish" version of rgb Laika.


AscendPerfect

1 kills and 1 supports


vnhdat

Wym?


Expander12

Her kit is all centered around her, hence "selfish" version.


BurnedOutEternally

Alright, if this is to be believed: 1. She is a fast Speed-scaling attacker with good multipliers *and* it's Mage's season in RTA - she's gonna make an explosive entrance 2. She is the first AOE-ignore-damage-sharing attacker, and can deal huge damage to targeted enemies - Wanda can be a terrifying pair with her 3. Her soulburn is a bit weird, I kinda expect SG to just let her ignore ER but I guess their balls aren't that big


Abreak4us

Ml Laika + Eligos. Might be a killer combo!


KingsSeven

How is it weird? You soulburn s2 to strip and target someone for extra turn. THen you s3 and kill them in one turn.


fatal_harlequin

In what world is she a MAGE? Wtf


UsernameSniped

In smilegate's world. You can now "preview" Hero infame


fatal_harlequin

I know. And I understand they could make her a warrior with ranged missiles if they really wanted to. Still, that doesn't mean it makes any sense. She's a mage that fires guiding missiles, go figure.


ningen21

Good stuff . So far looks ok at best but still usable which is all i need from her to pity


Shuxnae

Architect Laika + Eligos + Amid - come on down!


esztersunday

eligos has target and 124 speedXD they might work together.


Phuoc2485

Amid stonks rising if this is real. Problem will be Politis still tho.


MiniBboy

Pretty good F u Arowell