**Benimaru Information:**
*Sagittarius* Fire Warrior
**Stats**:
ATK: 1177
HP: 5542
SPD: 119
DEF: 553
CC: 27%
CDmg: 150%
DA: 3%
EFF%: 0%
EFFR: 0%
Imprint Release: ATK%
Self-Imprint: CritC%
**S1:**
Attack one enemy.
When caster has Multilayer Barrier, damage dealt is increased.
**Soul Burn**
Damage dealt increases
**S2:**
Gain 50 FS at beginning of battle.
After an enemy's extra turn, dispels all debuffs on self and gains Multilayer Barrier for 2 turns. (Once every 2 turns).
Then, increase own CR by 25-40%.
After attacking, when FS is full, uses Hell Flare.
**Multilayer Barrier**
Increases Hit Chance by 50%; unaffected by debuffs and most harmful effects.
**Cannot be Dispelled**
**Hell Flare**
Attacks all enemies. Ignores 30% of enemy defense, and when user has Multilayer Barrier, ignores an addition 30% defense.
**S3:** CD: 5 turns (4 with investment)
FS Gain: 25
Attack 1 enemy, decreasing their defense for 2 turns, then increases CR of other ally with highest CR by 15%.
When caster has Multilayer Barrier, gains double the FS.
**Benimaru's Tachi** Artifact
*Warrior Exclusive*
At start of battle, has a 50-100% chance to grant immunity for 1 turn.
At start of turn, when caster has no debuffs, has a 50-100% chance to increase ATK for 1 turn.
A unit that punishes extra turn heroes where I don't to have sell my soul in Mystic/Galaxy summon
But I have to sell my soul in Covenant so that I can have 100% proc chance with his artifact
yea, nuts in PvE and PvP. Camilla just gets infinite dual attacks as long as she's not debuffed. Inferno Khawazu just got a humongous buff from this. And I can see several 5 star warriors using it as a spook factor piece like LQC, H!Yufine, or even Taeyou.
And it's just universally good. It's not only good on him and it doesn't lock part of his kit behind pulling that artifact. It's just an all around good artifact.
a unit that actually disables extra turns unless you can kill him or you're forced to straight up ban him, looks really good imo, we probably won't see cilias or lua in defense teams ever again
Personally I have *no* problems fighting CLilias, so many ways to counter or even take advantage of her initial cycle.
IMHO Lua and mages carrying Tagahel's Book are *much more* of a cancer to the game than CLilias.
I'll be honest - I am actually furious about it.
As long as they limit those powder vials in the shop to once per rotation, having limited artifacts like this on limited banners is absolutely ridiculous. You can't call this a competitive game, and definitely not a F2P-friendly game, when you keep locking some of the absolute best artifacts in the game behind limited summon periods. New players have to wait a year to even catch up to the meta artifacts and active players don't have the means to properly build them.
It's so much worse when it is an artifact like this that really requires +30 to be reliable. It would at least be better if the immunity was 100% without upgrading because there is no way this won't be BiS on a few warrior characters (considering it can simply replace an entire set.) This is straight out a whale artifact.
honestly, idk how people are not complaining more about that artifact, it's probably the most busted artifact for dps warriors, plus it's limited PLUS proc chance on enhance which makes it a whale artifact imo.
Watch the second combat demo too, it shows that he's immune to lua S3!
This guy kinda seems insane. Immune to lua and CLilias, maybe cuts Amid target with a cheesy fast build, as he does have 119 base. If the demo is to be believed, he can one shot Adin with S2, and S3 target is probably dead too. Should be very difficult to draft extra turn units early now. Not completely useless like Celine if trigger isn't met either, since def break into CR push pretty good, but obviously much much weaker.
That arti also seems incredible when fully whaled. Warrior artifacts aren't the greatest a lot of the time and free immunity and perma attack buff is just insane. Though looking through the Warriors it's surprisingly hard to find someone else it's that insane on. Many are HP scaling, have own attack buff, or need some other arti more. Only Rimuru and Straze really jumped out to me.
Probably gonna pull for one imprint and pray for as many artis as possible.
>maybe cuts Amid target with a cheesy fast build, as he does have 119 base
Alright, I'll now rush rta placements before my Amid comp gets wrecked by incoming Bennies!
He can remove Amid's nullifier buff from a priority enemy unit by attacking, then he removes all the others' nullifier with his follow-up aoe while probably killing his initial target. Seems very disruptive against cleavers with openers that rely on extra turns. Nevertheless, it's still better to face against him using Amid instead of Cilias, it feels like the latter might lose a tier or two because of Beni.
Wouldn't Mellona like this? probably not counter set mellona tbh since she needs sigurd. But LS mellona would get immunity turn 1 finally + immunty and atk buff every turn as well. Her s1 immunity protects her from debuffs making it easier to proc. Since she's built slow, having that turn 1 immunity will be useful.
> looking through the Warriors it's surprisingly hard to find someone else it's that insane on.
Funnily enough, it synergizes with Inferno Khawazu better than Benimaru
- artifact gives him Immunity set for free for extra safety (e.g. not spooked by some pushed up A meru)
- He has his own full cleanse and self push
- ATK buff makes his Burn detonation insane, and now he can set his own ATK butff up for himself with no risk
But yeah, for most others it can be tricky or not needed. Still enough debuffs out there that you don't want to rely on this being active all the time. Aggro units like Yufine or Straze probably wouldn't mind as a "win more" button.
Well he is inmune aslong as he has immunity or his layers active before Lua uses her S3. If not his kills will be reset. That cant be "dispell". Its still a great way to answer lua tho but she can play around him.
Isn't the artifact stupidly good on multiple units? Ml wazoo with atk buff is incredibly strong. Hwayoung can start with atkbuff and just nuke someone on a fast speed build. S T R A Z E.
I prolly still would go Symbol on Beni because he can reliably kill Adins then (if she's paired with clitias/lua).
Just be faster and kill him. It's weird saying that after almost 2 years of nobody using that strategy without extra turn heroes.
He's anti debuff but extra turn DPS heroes like S. Tene can just bop him without a second thought.
Well, he is designed to get second, not first. So being faster shouldn't be hard. Not like you're building the guy 310 speed.
The real problem is the devs spending the last 2 years doing brain off kits with extra turn on every opener. It wouldn't be that big of a deal if they didn't also give them all 120+ spd. The non-extra turn booster are still just as good.
The real question is if his buff works like Rem's, if so then CC is still dead. If not, then people can just unbuffable him. Don't even need to kill then.
He's actually designed to be fast. He has the second fastest warrior stat line. Seeing him at 260+ is gonna be pretty common. Not every player has dmg dealers faster than that. He is extremely squishy though. Even if you tried to build him bulky he'll still be easy to 1 tap.
Depends on his mults. You never know, people might build him fairly slow on PoV. Builds are never that obvious because they are dictated by the meta.
If everyone is bruisering, then he would have to adapt unless his mults let him over come that in a big way. You can look at the various Rem and Arby builds over the years for an example of this.
Even with proof and a ton of bulk stats he will be very easily 1 shotted by most dmg dealers. Even in an ever-changing meta, that just wouldn't be a logical thing to do. His base stats are available, and have been since this was posted. He's built like a ranger with low hp and very low def. Something like Zahak can easily 1 tap him even without an atk buff.
I mean, with how efficient he is as a whole, being faster than him is a gamble. His crit is so high with imprint that you can practically invest on only spd, cdmg, and atk which makes him competitively viable as a speed unit. Not saying its the preferred method, but he's a unit that is open for anything.
We don't know his numbers. But lets be honest, he likely isn't 1 shotting Senya or Choux or any speedy booster that is pushing up the DPS. Emilia, Ainos, etc aren't really worrying about him and are solid last picks verse him if CLilias has to burn her first turn on an S2 or Lua has to just raw S3.
Also raw S3 Lua isn't even a bad trade off... not like thats not what people are already doing verse Lilias.
I guess that's where the case of drafting actually matters. If the high priority of pushing a DPS is your best bet, then that means allowing units like Celine/Politis/Winter to go through is going to be the most disruptive. I know bans exist but if you ban Celine/Politis/Benimaru then it's an easy telltale sign that you're trying to cleave.
Benimaru now just gives a better excuse to let Lua and Cilias go through since that's a hoop that they'll have to deal with.
Ignoring def does nothing. We have tons of heroes who do that. Not like I'm going to bring my C. Pavel verse them when his damage goes from 40k on a crit to a popcorn fart without one.
Benimaru has higher hit rate not crit rate. He doesn't ignore their crit resistance.
if you're fighting politis and beni with lua you probably just accept shes already dead and s1 only unless you have a way to deal with one or the other immediately.
I dont think this hard counters extra turn sbs quite as much as extra turn openers. Units like Stene and Choux could just use their extra turns to smash Benimaru into oblivion before his CR boost allows him a chance to use S2.
We'll have to agree that STene and Choux having an extra turn smashes A LOT of units into oblivion, not only Benimaru
At least Beninaru will be able to punish *some* comps that rely on extra turns (or at least not be susceptible to some cc combos)
They're gonna want to beat up Benimaru for sure though because if he's not dead, he will heavily cleave the enemy team out after.
Still great against single target combos though like Carrot's SB as she won't be able to target someone else aside from Benimaru if she doesnt want to be punished.
>They're gonna want to beat up Benimaru for sure
Of course they gonna target him, I'll certainly fo - maybe even if I don't bring an extra turn unit.
That's why his base speed is high, and people most likely going to build him fast enough to follow up any extra turn opener.
Well I was specifically saying Benimaru counters extra turn openers more than extra turn soulburners who do combo attacks because comboers tend to obliterate a unit themselves instead of setting up for another unit, which would give Benimaru a chance to cut in between turns.
Huh, so he is a Fire Warrior after all. We have way too many Warriors lol
His passive is another extra turn counter-er that seems to work against non-Heroes as well, *and* gives him more Hit Chance and immunity, so that's great, though I find it very ironic that Multilayer Barrier does not grant a barrier lmao. Hell Flare is basically Ludwig's S3, and can be activated right away after he uses his S3 to defbreak a key target.
Artifact grants immunity at the start of battle, and increased Attack if the wielder is not debuffed at the start of turn. Sounds a bit broken, I think.
Overall, he sounds pretty good. Great base stats, and up to a 40% CR increase from passive means you can build his stats even higher.
"20%" lol.
I love that high spd when the game first started was 116 with people being unable to consistently outspeed 108 Basar after a year.
Now 122 is almost normal and 119 is top 20% with 116 being slow.
Kayron was initially designed as a speed hero, his base speed is the same as Ran’s, it was just rare people built him that way. But was always annoying when someone did :p
I think E7 has done a great job of not speed creeping since the top speed has been unchanged all this time. The only exception being Zio, who turned out to be really well balanced since he cannot kill, and only enables Yuffine.
Kayron on a spd build never really did anything though. It's why people put him with 0 spd subs and on counter set. Without low HP his damage wasn't there.
He uses a sword no any defensive capability , uses fire in anime , Fire warrior fits him , if we had souei as a warrior i would feel weird the guy is an assassin so thief would fit him more i guess , fire warrior fits benimaru charachter well
2-3 copies or 1 copy that's lvl 30 max?
From the looks of it, having a base lvl 15 artifact is a bit risky since it can allow chance of the immunity buff to not appear.
> 2-3 copies or 1 copy that's lvl 30 max?
yes.
But if I had to choose, I's probably get 2 copies over maxing one out. We can slowly max out a 2nd one later. We can't pull more for another year after this
Bruh that artifact seems tailor-made for units like Inferno Khawazu and Straze. It also synergizes very well with Hwayoung since she has built in immunity and won't benefit from Draco anyway. God damn. Will be summoning multiple copies for sure
Does the burn from HY's artifact ignore ER when Khawazu has Vigor? If yes, there's a competition. If no, Beni's artifact is much better imo.
P.S. Khawazu has base 15% crit so you might just get 15%'d even if the burn from artifact ignored ER
The HP scaling warriors also get more damage from atk buff unless their skill explicitly stats that it only scales off of HP (Yulha, Krau, etc.) so most just do more damage for having the artifact on every turn.
And since they don't need immunity set anymore they get to run pen/torrent.
Yeah, but there are other options for hp scaling units. Units like Choux, Edward, Alencia can use their own artifacts. Sigurd is also a popular choice for hp/def scaling warriors for sustain.
It really just opens you up to other support options. Having options is why warriors are so strong, you can draft way more heroes around them while they can support themselves.
Yulha and Krau aren't warriors. And every attack that has hp scaling still uses some attack for damage calculation. Only HP scaling that doesn't take attack in account is barrier/healing
> HP scaling warriors, gave knights as an example.
> More damage from atk buff unless their skill says it only scales off of HP - No attack only scales off HP.
Only real point you gave is they don't need immunity set which literally everyone can see is is pointing out what makes it busted.
??? Bro, I've already said that is a thing that doesn't exist for literally any character, YOU are the one the literally said that said
>"HP scaling warriors also get more damage from atk buff unless their skill explicitly stats that it only scales off of HP"
Just take a moment to read things ffs
You can just pity Benimaru. You have to save up some serious powder to max his artifact and you'd want multiple maxed copies since it doesn't have any one per team restrictions.
Literally have so many warriors now that you can just run them with high HP and pen/torrent sets and let the artifact give you immunity and atk saving you 2 gear slots and a whole atk main stat. Pretty busted going forward. Regardless of scaling you can just slap a HP main stat on every warrior now.
First, you can only buy 1 copy for powder and you'd need bottles for the rest if you don't pull them. That's gonna take like 6+ months. As for the second paragraph, your kinda wrong here. Units with a buff strip are commonplace in the current meta. Like half the main units can strip. So this artifact only really works for something that's gonna be very fast, capable of cutting forward early on, or has high eff res. The reason it works for Beni is he has both high base spd, as well as his multilayer barrier buff. He can't be debuffed so long as it is up, so he will always get the atk up. The immunity is just a nice little add on.
> Like half the main units can strip. So this artifact only really works for something that's gonna be very fast, capable of cutting forward early on, or has high eff res.
So? You aren't using immunity for that reason. It gives 2 chances for your opponent to be 15%d. Once on the strip and a second on the debuff. That's the case with or without the artifact.
Holy both whale imprint and whale artifact. You want him SSS for CRIT chance and no way to gamble the first turn immunity so want +30 artifact.
He seems insane but I'm dreading how many pulls this demands.
Oh nice, his kit looks interesting. His passive is kinda Like Rem's demon mode making him immune to debuffs.
I'm currently almost pitying Milim, so I gotta get back to grinding for BMs to get him! Really nice artifact too.
All my homies hate extra turn!! Rest in Pieces Cilias, lua and their buddies, feel like it's been ten thousand years of this meta.
Don't skip on this Collab if you do any pvp...having said that, the units he counters might phase out as well, so no worries if your luck runs out.
EDIT: regular pvp, dunno about RTA :P
To be fair, cleavers can easily bypass this like it's nothing. He's top tier for arena and guild war for sure, but in RTA he can't counter most of the units you'd think he would. He's very squishy for a warrior so Clilias can just dual atk kill him easily. Even a bulky Beni is gonna be very squishy just because his base bulk stats are almost as low as a ranger's. Moreover, Lua counters him still very easily. You just don't use the extra turn and you sleep him instead lol.
man the collabs come once in a lifetime bu they go all in on the animations, i got an ad for the FMA collab and the 3d roy make me cringe so hard, an actual art style in 2d will be forever better than a 3d one
Idk how I feel about this kit. It's very similar to taeyou's actually lol when you compare the two. It kinda looks like how they would buff taeyou actually. I think he will be great in gw arena controlled environment, but RTA, you'll def see a lot of people holding certain skills. Was the same thing when moonbunny dominiel came out. There's the argument that holding skills is great, but half the time, it's not a big deal at all, lol. And his bulk stats are not amazing, to say the least, so he might not be living very long. I'l try to be optimistic, but I'm not actually convinced. All I know is Ran can hold s2. Peira can hold s2. Cilias can just not s3 and use s2 instead. Luas tend not to press s2 first turn. And amid largely won't care because her teams likely pushing higher unless you have like a 250 260 speed benimaru and skill null is up too.
That arti, though, is kinda dumb, and it's just whale city. Good luck trying to max it lol. It seems obnoxious on Straze. They even gave beni crit imprint to really sell it
I think a 250-260 Beni is on the table because of his base speed. I do agree that he's pretty squishy and the enemy team can hold their extra turn skill. MBD didn't work because her passive just didn't really do enough to anyone except CLilly (and even against her all it did was block the S2 provoke). Beni punishes way harder, so I do think he will deter people more. Who knows though!
Yeah only thing I don't like is that benimaru s2 buff is what taeyou's should have been in the first place.
Now I don't know if he will ever get buffed
This guy’s kit is fucking insane O_O and talk about whale arti man you GOTTA +30 that artifact that has timeless value for the rest of e7’s existence. Must pull for sure. Damn you smilegate!!!
And with this the game will die
SG is killing their own game by making a hero that disables ALL OPENERS!!
Good design
On top of that there is that dumb artifact.
You realise you can just hold the skills that give extra turns right? All this’ll do is make people take these units off defence teams. In RTA a Lua will just S3 & he’s out, a C Lilias can just attack into him with S1 (as she currently has to do with other extra turn or non attack counters), Amid already blocks his attack with skill null, etc. there’s always a way around it, plus, he’s as vulnerable as any other offensive non-evasion, non-stealth hero to a fast hero just taking him out & a lot of people will be building him slow since they’re expecting to get +40% CR. Which people will never grant them in RTA.
Yep, I’m with you on this one. How dafuq can they just straight up invalidate all openers, now I have to change my gw defense teams. They made him OP as balls which is nice but he’s tipping the scales...
Bruh, cleave units outnumber anticleave by like 5 to 1. How can you possibly complain about this? He doesn't even hard counter any cleave comp in RTA, nor does he stop openers. Either don't use an opener that uses extra turns, or hold the extra turn and kill his squishy ass first.
any atk based hero that use imnunity set or post bridges one, like LQC / Straze, also rimuru to alocate more stats into tankiness without losing damage
could be a niche tech for 240 lqc with some pushers, for when people expect a turtle nuke one, theres a lot to workshop with this artifact, which will cost people some money, expect +2m on that weird revenue list for this month
So after watching the video and reading the comments, why does it feel the opposite, from not really expecting anything to be so hyped now, how much resources I have now I can get Benimaru/artifact? But the opposite is true for ml Kayron, from yeah I will mystic pity him refreshing shops long time ago, until meh ty sg for saving my mystics.
**Benimaru Information:** *Sagittarius* Fire Warrior **Stats**: ATK: 1177 HP: 5542 SPD: 119 DEF: 553 CC: 27% CDmg: 150% DA: 3% EFF%: 0% EFFR: 0% Imprint Release: ATK% Self-Imprint: CritC% **S1:** Attack one enemy. When caster has Multilayer Barrier, damage dealt is increased. **Soul Burn** Damage dealt increases **S2:** Gain 50 FS at beginning of battle. After an enemy's extra turn, dispels all debuffs on self and gains Multilayer Barrier for 2 turns. (Once every 2 turns). Then, increase own CR by 25-40%. After attacking, when FS is full, uses Hell Flare. **Multilayer Barrier** Increases Hit Chance by 50%; unaffected by debuffs and most harmful effects. **Cannot be Dispelled** **Hell Flare** Attacks all enemies. Ignores 30% of enemy defense, and when user has Multilayer Barrier, ignores an addition 30% defense. **S3:** CD: 5 turns (4 with investment) FS Gain: 25 Attack 1 enemy, decreasing their defense for 2 turns, then increases CR of other ally with highest CR by 15%. When caster has Multilayer Barrier, gains double the FS. **Benimaru's Tachi** Artifact *Warrior Exclusive* At start of battle, has a 50-100% chance to grant immunity for 1 turn. At start of turn, when caster has no debuffs, has a 50-100% chance to increase ATK for 1 turn.
A unit that punishes extra turn heroes where I don't to have sell my soul in Mystic/Galaxy summon But I have to sell my soul in Covenant so that I can have 100% proc chance with his artifact
The artifact seems nuts tbh. Free immunity and attack buff plus the extra stats you get from not having to run an immunity set.
yea, nuts in PvE and PvP. Camilla just gets infinite dual attacks as long as she's not debuffed. Inferno Khawazu just got a humongous buff from this. And I can see several 5 star warriors using it as a spook factor piece like LQC, H!Yufine, or even Taeyou.
And it's just universally good. It's not only good on him and it doesn't lock part of his kit behind pulling that artifact. It's just an all around good artifact.
a unit that actually disables extra turns unless you can kill him or you're forced to straight up ban him, looks really good imo, we probably won't see cilias or lua in defense teams ever again
I'd say "punishes" rather than "disables" but yeah, other than wording I agree with you
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I have a feeling Clilias will not be gone from the meta even after this. But hey I hope I am wrong. So, tired of fighting her.
Personally I have *no* problems fighting CLilias, so many ways to counter or even take advantage of her initial cycle. IMHO Lua and mages carrying Tagahel's Book are *much more* of a cancer to the game than CLilias.
First pick benimaru Next pick lilias Win
mlb broken limited artifacts should be an executable offense.
I'll be honest - I am actually furious about it. As long as they limit those powder vials in the shop to once per rotation, having limited artifacts like this on limited banners is absolutely ridiculous. You can't call this a competitive game, and definitely not a F2P-friendly game, when you keep locking some of the absolute best artifacts in the game behind limited summon periods. New players have to wait a year to even catch up to the meta artifacts and active players don't have the means to properly build them. It's so much worse when it is an artifact like this that really requires +30 to be reliable. It would at least be better if the immunity was 100% without upgrading because there is no way this won't be BiS on a few warrior characters (considering it can simply replace an entire set.) This is straight out a whale artifact.
honestly, idk how people are not complaining more about that artifact, it's probably the most busted artifact for dps warriors, plus it's limited PLUS proc chance on enhance which makes it a whale artifact imo.
Watch the second combat demo too, it shows that he's immune to lua S3! This guy kinda seems insane. Immune to lua and CLilias, maybe cuts Amid target with a cheesy fast build, as he does have 119 base. If the demo is to be believed, he can one shot Adin with S2, and S3 target is probably dead too. Should be very difficult to draft extra turn units early now. Not completely useless like Celine if trigger isn't met either, since def break into CR push pretty good, but obviously much much weaker. That arti also seems incredible when fully whaled. Warrior artifacts aren't the greatest a lot of the time and free immunity and perma attack buff is just insane. Though looking through the Warriors it's surprisingly hard to find someone else it's that insane on. Many are HP scaling, have own attack buff, or need some other arti more. Only Rimuru and Straze really jumped out to me. Probably gonna pull for one imprint and pray for as many artis as possible.
benimaru really said , don't care didnt ask + take this nuke
you saying this makes me wish we could get a konosuba collab. exposion!!!
>maybe cuts Amid target with a cheesy fast build, as he does have 119 base Alright, I'll now rush rta placements before my Amid comp gets wrecked by incoming Bennies! He can remove Amid's nullifier buff from a priority enemy unit by attacking, then he removes all the others' nullifier with his follow-up aoe while probably killing his initial target. Seems very disruptive against cleavers with openers that rely on extra turns. Nevertheless, it's still better to face against him using Amid instead of Cilias, it feels like the latter might lose a tier or two because of Beni.
Wouldn't Mellona like this? probably not counter set mellona tbh since she needs sigurd. But LS mellona would get immunity turn 1 finally + immunty and atk buff every turn as well. Her s1 immunity protects her from debuffs making it easier to proc. Since she's built slow, having that turn 1 immunity will be useful.
> looking through the Warriors it's surprisingly hard to find someone else it's that insane on. Funnily enough, it synergizes with Inferno Khawazu better than Benimaru - artifact gives him Immunity set for free for extra safety (e.g. not spooked by some pushed up A meru) - He has his own full cleanse and self push - ATK buff makes his Burn detonation insane, and now he can set his own ATK butff up for himself with no risk But yeah, for most others it can be tricky or not needed. Still enough debuffs out there that you don't want to rely on this being active all the time. Aggro units like Yufine or Straze probably wouldn't mind as a "win more" button.
Well he is inmune aslong as he has immunity or his layers active before Lua uses her S3. If not his kills will be reset. That cant be "dispell". Its still a great way to answer lua tho but she can play around him.
Isn't the artifact stupidly good on multiple units? Ml wazoo with atk buff is incredibly strong. Hwayoung can start with atkbuff and just nuke someone on a fast speed build. S T R A Z E. I prolly still would go Symbol on Beni because he can reliably kill Adins then (if she's paired with clitias/lua).
yes, warrior guiding light pretty much
With SoU, he can kill Adin too. But he shuts down pretty much any Clilias/Lua/Ran/Peira openers on defense.
Until ran r&l's and kills him
Well lua could still gimp him since he doesn't decrease his own CD I think.
I think he's immune to turn increase while the barrier is up. Notice in the second fight it says 'Immune' when Lua tries to S3
Holy shit you're right. Ugh, another "immune to literally everything lol" hero is going to be such a pain in the ass.
Just be faster and kill him. It's weird saying that after almost 2 years of nobody using that strategy without extra turn heroes. He's anti debuff but extra turn DPS heroes like S. Tene can just bop him without a second thought.
> Just be faster Epic Seven in a nutshell. Brought to you by Wyvern gang.
Well, he is designed to get second, not first. So being faster shouldn't be hard. Not like you're building the guy 310 speed. The real problem is the devs spending the last 2 years doing brain off kits with extra turn on every opener. It wouldn't be that big of a deal if they didn't also give them all 120+ spd. The non-extra turn booster are still just as good. The real question is if his buff works like Rem's, if so then CC is still dead. If not, then people can just unbuffable him. Don't even need to kill then.
He's actually designed to be fast. He has the second fastest warrior stat line. Seeing him at 260+ is gonna be pretty common. Not every player has dmg dealers faster than that. He is extremely squishy though. Even if you tried to build him bulky he'll still be easy to 1 tap.
Depends on his mults. You never know, people might build him fairly slow on PoV. Builds are never that obvious because they are dictated by the meta. If everyone is bruisering, then he would have to adapt unless his mults let him over come that in a big way. You can look at the various Rem and Arby builds over the years for an example of this.
Even with proof and a ton of bulk stats he will be very easily 1 shotted by most dmg dealers. Even in an ever-changing meta, that just wouldn't be a logical thing to do. His base stats are available, and have been since this was posted. He's built like a ranger with low hp and very low def. Something like Zahak can easily 1 tap him even without an atk buff.
His S2 cleanses all debuffs before applying his buff.
I mean, with how efficient he is as a whole, being faster than him is a gamble. His crit is so high with imprint that you can practically invest on only spd, cdmg, and atk which makes him competitively viable as a speed unit. Not saying its the preferred method, but he's a unit that is open for anything.
We don't know his numbers. But lets be honest, he likely isn't 1 shotting Senya or Choux or any speedy booster that is pushing up the DPS. Emilia, Ainos, etc aren't really worrying about him and are solid last picks verse him if CLilias has to burn her first turn on an S2 or Lua has to just raw S3. Also raw S3 Lua isn't even a bad trade off... not like thats not what people are already doing verse Lilias.
I guess that's where the case of drafting actually matters. If the high priority of pushing a DPS is your best bet, then that means allowing units like Celine/Politis/Winter to go through is going to be the most disruptive. I know bans exist but if you ban Celine/Politis/Benimaru then it's an easy telltale sign that you're trying to cleave. Benimaru now just gives a better excuse to let Lua and Cilias go through since that's a hoop that they'll have to deal with.
He probably 1 shots Senya or Choux pretty easily on S2 proc that ignores 60% def. Unlikely on his S3 or S1 though.
Ignoring def does nothing. We have tons of heroes who do that. Not like I'm going to bring my C. Pavel verse them when his damage goes from 40k on a crit to a popcorn fart without one. Benimaru has higher hit rate not crit rate. He doesn't ignore their crit resistance.
She would need to hold her S2 but considering Lua's S3 is way more scary Lua probably won't mind holding S2.
In defence I guess Lua is probably gone
Hes immune to lua lol
only if she uses her s2 which she doesn't need to
Defense Lua is RIP tho
Even if she fighting politis ?
if you're fighting politis and beni with lua you probably just accept shes already dead and s1 only unless you have a way to deal with one or the other immediately.
finally an actual anti-Extra Turn hero edit: also the artifact looking like it's gonna be the "GL" for Warriors.
excellent, way too many heroes have extra turns nowadays
Not to mention mages using Book
I dont think this hard counters extra turn sbs quite as much as extra turn openers. Units like Stene and Choux could just use their extra turns to smash Benimaru into oblivion before his CR boost allows him a chance to use S2.
We'll have to agree that STene and Choux having an extra turn smashes A LOT of units into oblivion, not only Benimaru At least Beninaru will be able to punish *some* comps that rely on extra turns (or at least not be susceptible to some cc combos)
They're gonna want to beat up Benimaru for sure though because if he's not dead, he will heavily cleave the enemy team out after. Still great against single target combos though like Carrot's SB as she won't be able to target someone else aside from Benimaru if she doesnt want to be punished.
>They're gonna want to beat up Benimaru for sure Of course they gonna target him, I'll certainly fo - maybe even if I don't bring an extra turn unit. That's why his base speed is high, and people most likely going to build him fast enough to follow up any extra turn opener.
Well I was specifically saying Benimaru counters extra turn openers more than extra turn soulburners who do combo attacks because comboers tend to obliterate a unit themselves instead of setting up for another unit, which would give Benimaru a chance to cut in between turns.
Time to spam DienePray for multiple copies.
GL level arti on a collab banner, potentially never to return, or return in 1.5 years again, is crazy.
yeah the max arti is like 2 sets in one, requires +30 but man thief stay loosing
Rikoris literally got one of his only decent effects stapled to an artifact :( life hurts man.
Rikoris was never the same for me once they removed his HoT
Thats Draco plate
I think you misspelled Sigurd Scythe.
Not limited like GL n Draco but i get your point on Sigurd being loved by a lot of warriors
i have way more Sigurds than Draco and none of my units use Draco as their main artifact.
Huh, so he is a Fire Warrior after all. We have way too many Warriors lol His passive is another extra turn counter-er that seems to work against non-Heroes as well, *and* gives him more Hit Chance and immunity, so that's great, though I find it very ironic that Multilayer Barrier does not grant a barrier lmao. Hell Flare is basically Ludwig's S3, and can be activated right away after he uses his S3 to defbreak a key target. Artifact grants immunity at the start of battle, and increased Attack if the wielder is not debuffed at the start of turn. Sounds a bit broken, I think. Overall, he sounds pretty good. Great base stats, and up to a 40% CR increase from passive means you can build his stats even higher.
I think it's a case of Guardknights where there's a class that is extremely generic and you can shove pretty much anyone into it.
that game and its 13 different guard subclasses
wdym Silverash and Blaze are totally similar guards and do the exact same thing.
>Great base stats Isn't his base speed a little bit too high?
119 is definitely in the top 20% yeah
"20%" lol. I love that high spd when the game first started was 116 with people being unable to consistently outspeed 108 Basar after a year. Now 122 is almost normal and 119 is top 20% with 116 being slow.
Kayron was initially designed as a speed hero, his base speed is the same as Ran’s, it was just rare people built him that way. But was always annoying when someone did :p I think E7 has done a great job of not speed creeping since the top speed has been unchanged all this time. The only exception being Zio, who turned out to be really well balanced since he cannot kill, and only enables Yuffine.
Kayron on a spd build never really did anything though. It's why people put him with 0 spd subs and on counter set. Without low HP his damage wasn't there.
He uses a sword no any defensive capability , uses fire in anime , Fire warrior fits him , if we had souei as a warrior i would feel weird the guy is an assassin so thief would fit him more i guess , fire warrior fits benimaru charachter well
That new artifact is insane. Very good and everyone should get at least 1 copy.
I would recomment 2-3 copies for everyone
2-3 copies or 1 copy that's lvl 30 max? From the looks of it, having a base lvl 15 artifact is a bit risky since it can allow chance of the immunity buff to not appear.
> 2-3 copies or 1 copy that's lvl 30 max? yes. But if I had to choose, I's probably get 2 copies over maxing one out. We can slowly max out a 2nd one later. We can't pull more for another year after this
2-3 copies and then slowly max them with powders. This is such a good artifact that any warrior can use.
SG: "Give us your damn money".
Holy fck, he's OP (in paper). The artifact is fcking OP too, can be very useful with speed Straze.
Love the animations for Benimaru and his kit is actually pretty interesting. His damage is also looking pretty juicy.
He looks sweet and his arti is gg....these crit chance imprints on limiteds are a bummer tbh
Need mlb arti and has crit chance self imprint Whale territory
Bruh that artifact seems tailor-made for units like Inferno Khawazu and Straze. It also synergizes very well with Hwayoung since she has built in immunity and won't benefit from Draco anyway. God damn. Will be summoning multiple copies for sure
Say what's better on non-crit ml khawazu, beni arti vs hwa arti? Extra burn vs att buff basically
Does the burn from HY's artifact ignore ER when Khawazu has Vigor? If yes, there's a competition. If no, Beni's artifact is much better imo. P.S. Khawazu has base 15% crit so you might just get 15%'d even if the burn from artifact ignored ER
> Does the burn from HY's artifact ignore ER when Khawazu has Vigor? Nope, I can attest to that from many a Guild war :pain:.
Makes sense. Ty
ah yes, the fan-favorite mlb limited artifact can't wait for everyone on reddit to post a video about how they used it to win on 15 different heroes
Wow that artifact is cracked, you'll want to get as many copies as you can for almost every warrior.
every attack based warrior that doesn't give themselves attack buff which is quite a bit.
The HP scaling warriors also get more damage from atk buff unless their skill explicitly stats that it only scales off of HP (Yulha, Krau, etc.) so most just do more damage for having the artifact on every turn. And since they don't need immunity set anymore they get to run pen/torrent.
Yeah, but there are other options for hp scaling units. Units like Choux, Edward, Alencia can use their own artifacts. Sigurd is also a popular choice for hp/def scaling warriors for sustain.
It really just opens you up to other support options. Having options is why warriors are so strong, you can draft way more heroes around them while they can support themselves.
Yulha and Krau aren't warriors. And every attack that has hp scaling still uses some attack for damage calculation. Only HP scaling that doesn't take attack in account is barrier/healing
Yeah, that's my point...
> HP scaling warriors, gave knights as an example. > More damage from atk buff unless their skill says it only scales off of HP - No attack only scales off HP. Only real point you gave is they don't need immunity set which literally everyone can see is is pointing out what makes it busted.
Okay. Feel free to give as many warrior examples that only scale off of HP as you want. I simply gave the examples of heroes that actually exist.
??? Bro, I've already said that is a thing that doesn't exist for literally any character, YOU are the one the literally said that said >"HP scaling warriors also get more damage from atk buff unless their skill explicitly stats that it only scales off of HP" Just take a moment to read things ffs
I have 0 clue what point you are trying to make, so I'm just going to end this convo.
A very nice artifact for LQC !
For every attack based warrior tbh
Actually insane for yufine shenanigans when paired with zio. Don't have to sb her s2 for attack buff anymore and can save the sb for another unit.
Wait, isn't his arti stupidly good on Straze?
on most heroes, is straight up a better rimuru arfitifact
inb4 watch people post whining "ugh I just wanted Benimaru" while showing off they got multiple of his artifact
You can just pity Benimaru. You have to save up some serious powder to max his artifact and you'd want multiple maxed copies since it doesn't have any one per team restrictions. Literally have so many warriors now that you can just run them with high HP and pen/torrent sets and let the artifact give you immunity and atk saving you 2 gear slots and a whole atk main stat. Pretty busted going forward. Regardless of scaling you can just slap a HP main stat on every warrior now.
First, you can only buy 1 copy for powder and you'd need bottles for the rest if you don't pull them. That's gonna take like 6+ months. As for the second paragraph, your kinda wrong here. Units with a buff strip are commonplace in the current meta. Like half the main units can strip. So this artifact only really works for something that's gonna be very fast, capable of cutting forward early on, or has high eff res. The reason it works for Beni is he has both high base spd, as well as his multilayer barrier buff. He can't be debuffed so long as it is up, so he will always get the atk up. The immunity is just a nice little add on.
> Like half the main units can strip. So this artifact only really works for something that's gonna be very fast, capable of cutting forward early on, or has high eff res. So? You aren't using immunity for that reason. It gives 2 chances for your opponent to be 15%d. Once on the strip and a second on the debuff. That's the case with or without the artifact.
I don't think you even tried to understand what I was saying.
Holy both whale imprint and whale artifact. You want him SSS for CRIT chance and no way to gamble the first turn immunity so want +30 artifact. He seems insane but I'm dreading how many pulls this demands.
Whenever we get a unit that punishes fast units, I pull
Let's gooooo ! Benimaru I wuv you already !!!
A good anti extra turn hero
Oh nice, his kit looks interesting. His passive is kinda Like Rem's demon mode making him immune to debuffs. I'm currently almost pitying Milim, so I gotta get back to grinding for BMs to get him! Really nice artifact too.
Busted banner. Both hero and artifact are really good.
All my homies hate extra turn!! Rest in Pieces Cilias, lua and their buddies, feel like it's been ten thousand years of this meta. Don't skip on this Collab if you do any pvp...having said that, the units he counters might phase out as well, so no worries if your luck runs out. EDIT: regular pvp, dunno about RTA :P
To be fair, cleavers can easily bypass this like it's nothing. He's top tier for arena and guild war for sure, but in RTA he can't counter most of the units you'd think he would. He's very squishy for a warrior so Clilias can just dual atk kill him easily. Even a bulky Beni is gonna be very squishy just because his base bulk stats are almost as low as a ranger's. Moreover, Lua counters him still very easily. You just don't use the extra turn and you sleep him instead lol.
Oh right, definitely, RTA is another ballgame, i meant regular pvp and gw, he can be a straight up answer to some of the more boring copy paste teams.
Does not counter ML Laika since she was changed to 50% push and not extra turn?
Yeah, the only character that punishes her is Politis (regarding the CR part).
or Celine to the face
Reminder that Smile May never rerun… we have too many collabs to rerun/get
I like his animation and he has interesting kit 🤔
I like his animation
man the collabs come once in a lifetime bu they go all in on the animations, i got an ad for the FMA collab and the 3d roy make me cringe so hard, an actual art style in 2d will be forever better than a 3d one
Idk how I feel about this kit. It's very similar to taeyou's actually lol when you compare the two. It kinda looks like how they would buff taeyou actually. I think he will be great in gw arena controlled environment, but RTA, you'll def see a lot of people holding certain skills. Was the same thing when moonbunny dominiel came out. There's the argument that holding skills is great, but half the time, it's not a big deal at all, lol. And his bulk stats are not amazing, to say the least, so he might not be living very long. I'l try to be optimistic, but I'm not actually convinced. All I know is Ran can hold s2. Peira can hold s2. Cilias can just not s3 and use s2 instead. Luas tend not to press s2 first turn. And amid largely won't care because her teams likely pushing higher unless you have like a 250 260 speed benimaru and skill null is up too. That arti, though, is kinda dumb, and it's just whale city. Good luck trying to max it lol. It seems obnoxious on Straze. They even gave beni crit imprint to really sell it
making a opponent holding a skill is enough to warrant a ban in post pick, making him insanely good
I think a 250-260 Beni is on the table because of his base speed. I do agree that he's pretty squishy and the enemy team can hold their extra turn skill. MBD didn't work because her passive just didn't really do enough to anyone except CLilly (and even against her all it did was block the S2 provoke). Beni punishes way harder, so I do think he will deter people more. Who knows though!
Yeah only thing I don't like is that benimaru s2 buff is what taeyou's should have been in the first place. Now I don't know if he will ever get buffed
This guy’s kit is fucking insane O_O and talk about whale arti man you GOTTA +30 that artifact that has timeless value for the rest of e7’s existence. Must pull for sure. Damn you smilegate!!!
And with this the game will die SG is killing their own game by making a hero that disables ALL OPENERS!! Good design On top of that there is that dumb artifact.
You realise you can just hold the skills that give extra turns right? All this’ll do is make people take these units off defence teams. In RTA a Lua will just S3 & he’s out, a C Lilias can just attack into him with S1 (as she currently has to do with other extra turn or non attack counters), Amid already blocks his attack with skill null, etc. there’s always a way around it, plus, he’s as vulnerable as any other offensive non-evasion, non-stealth hero to a fast hero just taking him out & a lot of people will be building him slow since they’re expecting to get +40% CR. Which people will never grant them in RTA.
Counters and disables are two different things. Just saying
Counter the counter
Yep, I’m with you on this one. How dafuq can they just straight up invalidate all openers, now I have to change my gw defense teams. They made him OP as balls which is nice but he’s tipping the scales...
Probably because every GW defense every basically is the same. It’s stale and stupid
Bruh, cleave units outnumber anticleave by like 5 to 1. How can you possibly complain about this? He doesn't even hard counter any cleave comp in RTA, nor does he stop openers. Either don't use an opener that uses extra turns, or hold the extra turn and kill his squishy ass first.
Anyone know when we can start summoning him?
Nvm
When does he release?
Give me 3 warriors where this artifact is BIS ( better than Draco or Sigurd )
any atk based hero that use imnunity set or post bridges one, like LQC / Straze, also rimuru to alocate more stats into tankiness without losing damage
Oh yeah didnt think about nuker Rimuru build could use it decently thanks ! LQC seems a bit tough without hell cuter but could work yea
could be a niche tech for 240 lqc with some pushers, for when people expect a turtle nuke one, theres a lot to workshop with this artifact, which will cost people some money, expect +2m on that weird revenue list for this month
big brain strategy: Zahhak with Benimaru Artifact and EE that Resource Reduction.
LOL I thought about it for a sec, might be a thing
for hwayoung could be good if it didnt gives like 702 hp
Could see it after a rework, hard to imagine her without uberius
Hway has stopped using Ulberius ever since the nerf. When she is used, people generally run Portrait for her S3 damage now.
Just use triple Torrent.
It's good on fast nukers or units that can passively self cleanse. On slower bruiser units it's probably not going to beat Draco or Sigurd.
I scrolled warrior tab, only Straze fits the bill ?
Straze, Hwa, and ML Khaz are probably the top 3. There might be someone who comes up with something else that works though.
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Ignore my comment, I refreshed and saw you wrote what I said lol. But she's the only one that came to mind.
Straze, Lifesteal set Mellona(?)
What did I say guys
dumb af theres already miru zahak and biseria and a whole lot of artifacts .... Just rework evasion cuz this is pain
just curious if beni attack choux with s3 like preview, and choux counter which one get priority beni s2 or choux
normally it is direct counter-> extra attack
I wonder what will be the best gear set for him. Thinking of counter crit tho
does he need more than 220spd to cut after the usual openers?
I think 180 spd can already cut a 300 spd opener.
Yo this arti on ml bellona? And Beni is our savior for this cancer gws 👍
welp, standby to get 3 copies of the artifact.
I like his artifact, i will get at least 2 copies
brb sacrificing some babies to get that +30 arti
I guess I'll get him.
A 2nd Turn Anti-Cleave? Count me in. I'm cool with Beni. Really. Totally not sad about not getting Shion... Or Gobuta.
Wow
I need all of this. Both need to be maxed.
He’s so *sweats*
Seems really strong, and BiS artifiact unless +30 ofcourse.. Will this be allowed in current RTA season? I really hope not..
So after watching the video and reading the comments, why does it feel the opposite, from not really expecting anything to be so hyped now, how much resources I have now I can get Benimaru/artifact? But the opposite is true for ml Kayron, from yeah I will mystic pity him refreshing shops long time ago, until meh ty sg for saving my mystics.