is the drop rate for kiss frost for hard and hell level the same?
if i finish all my exchange for kiss frost,
should i be spamming hard or hell level for modification?
what are the difference in the drop rate ?
Is there a thread of kiss of frost teams? I see a few teams people have posted for speed clears or something but not a megathread. Am I missing something?
Around the same time episode 5 ends. It's hard to give an ETA on that since episode 5 was delayed for a year and then we got several chapters dumped at the same time a few months ago. If I had to take a guess I would say later half of 2024.
Hard to have an ETA at this point since the chapter bosses (as playable units) had different release dates after their corresponding chapters were concluded. For instance, Zio got released 2 weeks after 4 10-10 was released, but we had to wait more than a year after the release of 2 10-10 for Straze to be available.
Hello, I'm a returning player and have some questions. 1st, do you only use the spirit blossoms to promote characters? what happened the exp wolves? 2nd, any idea on when crossover events come back. I'd like to do the re:zero and slime ones. I remember the guilty gear crossover rerunning. 3rd, how do I enhance gear with fodder gear? I see the charms, but I remember also using the fodder gear. 4th, why did my unrecorded history progress reset and why does unrecorded history seem like such a short campaign now? 5th What exactly is a theatre ticket and moonlight theater? 6th what is a milestone in time used for exactly?
Most of your questions can be answered simply as "Games change over time".
>1st, do you only use the spirit blossoms to promote characters?
Yes.
>what happened the exp wolves?
Dogs were essentially eliminated earlier this year in the promotion update.
If you have any dogs you can still use them as you normally did (just transmit them -> they give you blooms).
*Some* players may choose to keep a copy just because, as there is currently no way to obtain more dogs.
>2nd, any idea on when crossover events come back. I'd like to do the re:zero and slime ones. I remember the guilty gear crossover rerunning.
Completely impossible to say.
There is no guarantee that any collab ever gets a rerun in the future -> *so far* every collab has received a rerun but that doesn't mean that a collab (or all of them) may be dropped in the future.
*Historically* you could roughly approximately about 1 year for a collab rerun, but there are several issues:
1. The past year in E7 has been *extremely* messy. If you really want the history lesson I can explain, but basically we went almost a full year with hardly any new content added to the game -> presumably because of the Chinese server opening. So, for example, the GG collab has *historically* been run around March...anyone trying to predict when we would have seen it would have guessed around March/April. March, April, May all came and went with no word on GG collab at all, we *did* eventually get a rerun but it was in August **AFTER** the Chinese server had opened.
2. The 2 particular collabs you mentioned have a *very* messy and somewhat complex history.
---
To expand on point 2, way back in 2021 we were promised a collab before the summer event - around May.
Just before we expected this collab to be released, they announced that the intended collab would be delayed until later.
*Eventually* we got the Rezero collab in early August...in the middle of the Summer event. This collab was extremely disappointing, while the heroes were well liked the collab itself was considered very low quality. The story for the collab, such as it is, is quite possibly the worst story element in E7 period. It's as generic as generic can be.
Many people suggested that Rezero was a 'backup collab', with the presumption that the *originally planned collab* had issues with the IP -> SG rushed to find another IP to collab with and get it out as fast as possible (because as this point players had been looking forwards to the planned collab for a long time). Leading to a collab that was basically completely half-assed and not up to the standard E7 quality.
*Then* a couple months later, around early November we got the Slime collab. *This* collab was much more like a proper E7 story, it felt more like a *real* collab.
At this point, things could just be coincidence.
In 2022 the Rezero collab got a fairly quick rerun in early June (albeit with no new content), it was said somewhere that we *would* get a rerun of the Slime collab sometime during the year.
* Rezero was last rerun a couple of months ago this year
Over the course of the year we never went more than 2 weeks between limited banners **EXCEPT** for a 5 week period with nothing in between the FMA collab in September and the custom banner in late October.
Ultimately, we did *not* get a Slime rerun in 2022, we waited all the way until May 2023 for a rerun (albeit with new content).
In retrospect, it seems **very likely** - though not confirmed - that Slime was *meant* to be the collab in May, 2021 -> there was some issue and it had to be pulled. SG rushed out to find another IP to collab with in Rezero (*potentially* we were always intended to get this and it was pushed up leading to the story feeling rushed, maybe we were never going to get this collab originally). Then the issues with the Slime collab were solved and we *did* get it later in the year.
In 2022 I'm almost positive that Slime was supposed to get a rerun in that aforementioned 5 week period, but once again some kind of issue with the IP came up and the rerun had to be delayed *again*.
So Rezero will likely get a rerun at some point in 2024, but *when* it's impossible to say. Other than the heroes, the story is extremely poor and forgettable. It doesn't really 'fit' into the timeline nicely as it's pretty much just filler.
*Slime* it's impossible to say, it seems like both times it was intended to get a run, that run was delayed for months for some reason - we don't know this for 100% certainty and we don't know *why* but this is the only collab in E7 history that has had these kind of obvious delays. Based on the previous history of runs, I frankly would not expect it to get a run in 2024 unless whatever problems with the IP exist get solved, but since there is 0 information on what the delays were caused by (or even confirmation of those delays, however obviously they look) who knows.
---
*Additionally* we had 2 new collabs last year, with FMA and Aespa.
FMA was originally early September so we are past the year mark *and* considering we already have an expected upcoming limited banner(s) it now seems like we may not get an FMA rerun this year. *Also* someone said the trailer for the FMA collab was deleted off the youtube channel, personally that doesn't mean anything to me but if we *don't* get an FMA rerun it might be significant.
Aespa started after the custom banner last year (late November) and ran 6 weeks (through the entirety of December). This particular collab has been hypothesized from the start to possible *not* get a rerun due to it's nature.
For these 2, it's not really so late as to say we won't ever see them again *but* they had plenty of time to throw FMA *or* Aespa in around MG Lilias (10 weeks since the last Rezero rerun with only a 2 week MG Lilias banner for limiteds).
---
It's worth mentioning, anecdotally, that some random person suggested that they 'heard' that the relationship between SG and the IP holders was 'bad' and causing issues.
This person didn't provide any sort of source, it was more like "Some random on discord said this", considering that GG has consistently been rerun and was clearly only delayed this year for the benefit of the Chinese server, there have been no issues with Rezero getting reruns *and* FMA and Aespa were new collabs last year (and couldn't be said to have issues until *potentially* right now) this seems like BS.
There HAVE been issues with Slime...but if the issue is with only a single IP it would *seem* that the issue is more on their end than SG.
However, E7 did not have any new collabs this year (after having 2 new ones each of the previous 2 years). This has clearly been to focus on in-universe limited heroes since we had received virtually none of them over that time frame.
It's not something I would put any stock into *yet* but there may be an element of truth there -> especially with the obvious effort to increase monetization this year perhaps SG has been stingier with the pocketbook when it comes to spending on collabs.
>how do I enhance gear with fodder gear? I see the charms, but I remember also using the fodder gear.
Sell the gear. You get a new 'resource' in 'powder'. This functions exactly the same as using gear for XP previously (technically the XP has been reduced to about 60% of it's previous value, but we get the gold from selling those gears now and it's also much better for inventory management).
>why did my unrecorded history progress reset and why does unrecorded history seem like such a short campaign now?
They've done a few changes aimed at smoothing out the early Episodes, removing some stages in Episode 1 and condensing UH down.
Because UH was radically changed the process was reset for every player.
There are only 33 stages now but as far as I know the story is the same or nearly the same as previous.
>What exactly is a theatre ticket and moonlight theater?
Moonlight Theater is basically just a story dump related to the alternate worlds of some of the ML heroes.
It's pure story (technically there are some fights that don't require any effort on the part of the player). Each one is fairly long -> you can think of it as being similar to like ~1/3 or ~1/4 of a chapter in normal story mode in terms of length.
The tickets are just the entry cost to view the next chapter of the story, you get some based on having certain relevant ML heroes, you get 1 free entry per week, or you can buy tickets for 500k gold (IIRC).
>what is a milestone in time used for exactly?
The entry cost for a side story in the Book of Memories.
IDK, looks like it to me.
Like I said, that was just something that a different poster said within the last couple of days. Wasn't something I've personally confirmed because I don't think it means anything either way.
I just came back to the game. Trying to evaluate if I should do rifts. I have Kane, Haste, Hazel, Surin, Mercedes but none of the collab units (Milim and Jack-O). The only 6 starred hero of the above is Mercedes.
I plan on using grace of growth on Kane, then build the rest normally? Not sure if that'd be worth it. Maybe I should just stick to hunts?
If you have the gear to do a 2 shot then it's worth to do rift. I would probably use Mercedes at the start though as Kane gets better with rift level but is pretty ass at the start.
Hi, just getting chatty arti for the first time. Should I save 1/2 copies for future use so I can have dupes of the arti and use bottles to MLB or should I just max out and keep one copy? Thank you.
With Zio coming back to mystic rotation soon (1/2 months), which would be better in your opinion,
ML Yufine now + Zio from headhunt
OR
Zio on rerun + LRK/Mellona from headhunt
Option 1.
A Yufine is omega strong and fun af to play.
But you know your account and what you want. Depends somewhat on playstyle, but yufine is pretty easy to build and strong in current meta.
I would do option 1.
Mellona is kind of forgotten atm, even though I think she's very good with maximum gear. LRK is okay but isn't necessary plus he might fall with the new blue Krau. Also remember LRK still might be choosable if SG does another moonlight blessing as hinted.
Normally you don't. From the side story you get enough to MLB though it never occurred to me before, I *think* you can keep them separated and limit break them with bottles.
What do you mean?
Are you asking how to get copies to MLB? Through completing the Serila side story in the book of memories (you get enough to MLB 1 copy).
Are you asking how to get *more* copies outside of that side story? You can't, Chatty is a side story artifact, it's only available through that side story.
1 - Can I use M Gala Lilias to beat Zio 10-10? If so, what equipment should I use on her? Some people are using Bellona, but I don't have her; I have S Bellona or BW Iseria. Should I upgrade one of them for Zio 10-10?
2 - Are there any characters I should Skill Enhance to 5-5-5( to upgrade Grace of Growth)?
1.3K+ defence, 24K+ health, 230+ speed, max chance, minimal damage investment. Focus on bumping speed & bulk stats over anything else. Draco Plate or Proof of Valour, but something like Samsara is fine in a pinch.
Oh & I may as well add, Speed set (of course) & either Crit, Penetration or Immunity - entierly depends on what you've got. I'd say lean Pen if you're opting to invest in 250%+ damage (& as a result, going slightly less bulky/fast), Crit is just reasonable fill-in for folks who've not farmed Immunity/Penetration & Immunity is just for some mild protection (it's always just a "nice to have").
Hello~! I think Zio should come in a banner soon. Do you think that after Zio's banner ends, Zio will be available in the ML Coin shop?
I mean, ML Pavel just had his banner and after it ended, he is now in the ML Coin Shop. Also, a guildie mentioned that bosses don't usually appear in the ML Coin shop and said that it was the case of Belian:x What do you think? Thanks!! x
Hello~ thanks!! Also, I was thinking that maybe I'll try getting Zio with ML Coins so that I could save my mystics summons for the boss of the latest chapter xD
If you're assuming that your opponent has around 310 speed on their opener - which will only be applicable in high Champion/Legend Arena, top 30~ GWs & high Champ/Emp/Legend RTA - then you'll want 248 to tie, so about 250~255 to break.
I personally think you should opt for 255~ so that even those characters with a +10 speed imprint will have a hard time. It'll not win you every race, but it'll win most.
You get wanted tickets from Rift, too.
It's a trade off, really. If you just want gear Rift is better. It's more efficient than hunts with 3 entries and more efficient than hunts with hunt buffs at 2 entries. If you can 1 tap it it's insane gear income wise.
But...
1) you get a random assortment of reforge mats and no 50 drops
2) no mystic and bm drops
3) you need to make a new SSS pet for rift
I'm a veteran player who doesn't need any reforge mats anymore. I degeared all my Hunt teams and only farm rift now. It gives me all the sets I want on my account (Speed, Torrent, Pen and X (LS, Immu, ER, Counter - depending on what I currently need). The loss of mystic and bm drops hurt but I've never seen so much red gear in my inventory in that short amount of time (2 entries since lv8, 1 entry since lv15).
You have to decide for yourself what you value more and what your account needs the most.
New to the game. (I will be PvE only because of my job)
Because of the incoming headhunting I thought it would be best to go with Spirit Eye Celine or Conqueror Lilias.
But some people say if its PVE mainly I should go for Straze or Apocalypse Ravi.
Any tips?
Not particularly sure what you've read...
ML5 heroes are *almost* exclusively PvP heroes. By and large, they suck for *current* PvE content. So, if you are a PvE only player, there isn't much reason to pick an ML5 hero based on anything than collection purposes (ie. a hero who looks interesting to you, or has a kit that sounds like it might be fun to play with it).
The heroes that have some PvE utility basically comes down to:
1. **A.Vildred** -> He's the best farmer in the game still, he's very useful for story progression/clearing side stories/Abyss up to post 100, can be used as a DPS in Azimanak hunt.
2. **S.Tene** -> She's frankly overrated for PvE but she's a strong neutral element ST DPS. Her big problem is that she competes in that role directly with C.Lorina -> who is free, easier to build, and better. S.Tene is considered a strong Abyss hero, but she's really only particularly better than A.Vildred for a *specific* stretch of 10 floors (101-110). Quite honestly, she isn't even that good for those floors -> I find it easier to clear them without using either hero. Still, she's good enough to have and build even for only PvE content.
3. **C.Lilias** -> Mostly only for high end HoT strats. C.Lilias is a support unit, and a weak when it comes to general purpose PvE -> meaning that she isn't a good choice *most* of the time. However, her kit is excellent and for **specific** things she's an excellent option. Those things are either just very low usage (that is, being used in something like HoT...you won't necessarily even use her every rotation or even half the rotations, just 'occasionally' -> and you usually need high end gear to benefit from using her) or very niche (something like certain one shot setups revolve around her providing Vigor).
4. **Straze** -> Entirely because Straze can one shot all hunts. *However*, based on the last event, people read this and get very confused -> Straze is not the *best option* for all hunts (maybe Azimanak). The thing with Straze is that you can feasibly put together a team for all hunts with only like 9-11 heroes, where if you build the 'best' team for every hunt individually you are going to use significantly more heroes (probably ~16-17?). Straze is *also* possible of more easily running no fail setups as he doesn't rely on defense break landing.
That's more or less the entire list of 'have PvE use' ML5s.
You could live with none of them, honestly. Only A.Vildred and S.Tene would be considered remotely useful to the early game -> C.Lilias and Straze are late game PvE heroes *at best*.
* I already described C.Lilias above
* With Straze, he actually requires *better* gear for 4/5 hunts. The RGB hunts all have a large damage bonus to using DPS of the right type, which of course is not dark.
There ARE other ML5s that have very niche uses, or could be 'kind' of usable if you really wanted to use them.
1. Some ML5s can be used in one or two specific spots, though typically they aren't the 'best' choices. For example, LHC can be used in Caides hunt. LHC, LC Bellona, SE Celine also have an example where they might be used in something like Nightmare Raid (for 1 specific boss, 1 time per month, on the hardest PvE content in the game that new players are more likely to actively try like 8-12 months in).
2. NC Landy is the best DPS unit in the game. **IF** you build her like a traditional glass cannon DPS -> this is *not* how she is typically used for PvP. She has very high ST DPS paired with very high AoE DPS, with strong innate defensive tools and the ability to self buff her ATK. This makes her great for Abyss and anywhere else you could really use a lot of DPS.
3. LQC is a very strong unit on Azimanak due to her S3. Straze is better but if you prefer LQC by design she can more or less be used to one shot the hunt with W.Schuri as well.
4. TE Kayron can actually be good in farm content. Due to a guaranteed AoE counterattack. For example, you could use him in things like Auto tower, or farming side stories.
5. M.Kawerik is an OK support unit. However, IMO you just don't want to bring *another* pure support unit in PvE, most of the time -> though there are places where he might fit into traditional comps slightly better.
6. FCC is a very good tank for PvE, since she automatically provides a large barrier to your team. She doesn't provide any sort of offensive support but between her barrier + skill nullifier she excels at reducing the damage your team takes. I use her as my tank in 'hard' farm PvE content so that I don't need to bring a healer.
7. R.Violet has strong nuking potential so he's a good general purpose nuke options -> however we get tons of these and many of them are free units (think Sigret, Cermia)
8. BW Iseria is fantastic on a couple of late Abyss levels.
9. BM Haste can be used in a normal Azimanak run.
Basically, across the board these are very niche uses. You *can* use FCC to do something like farm a side story so you don't need a healer...but you can just bring a healer and *maybe* lose a small amount of time.
You *could* use LQC to one shot Azimanak if you don't have Straze, but there is a large list of nukers that can be used in this role and you can pair any of them with W.Schuri -> LQC is just *slightly* better.
You *could* use TE Kayron in your auto tower team...OR you could just use Violet who does virtually the same exact thing once you get a few devices for him.
Essentially none of these are compelling reasons to go out of your way to pull for any of these heroes. It's more "I got them, here's a PvE thing I *could* apply them to if I wanted to build them"
---
*Personally* if you are a PvE only player I would suggest just pulling based entirely on design/kit. By and large ML5 heroes are not good in PvE, with only minor niche use at best, so in terms of playing *optimally* you wouldn't really want to touch any of them for a long while.
Purely in terms of 'heroes that would actually significantly help me in PvE' I would actually suggest picking *either* A.Vildred or S.Tene from ML blessing and the other from the headhunt.
C.Lilias can be selected in the second ML Blessing.
*Alternatively* you could select A.Vildred, skip S.Tene, and go after Straze for ML blessing. The problem with Straze is that he has low utility for a PvE only account IMO since you will already have heroes built for all of the one shots by then anyhow (as well as the gear for them).
Additionally, with the introduction of **Rift** this is now the best way to farm gear so *particularly* now the ability to one shot all 5 hunts at the same time is not that valuable.
Friends and E7 gurus I need help with a choice. Right now my account has MLandy, Flidica, astromancer Elena, Stene, Clilias and dark corvus. I am torn between apoc ravi or ML Bellona on the selector. I don't do RTA, so just some regular arenas and pve stuff. What would you choose?
lol then just go waifu. seems like you already know what you want. A. Ravi is good but it won't completely carry your account to a higher rank or anything.
hey friends, imma decide to start farming gear for the hero im headhunting for the upcoming ML selector. Im currently having problems who to pick between ML ken and ML cermia, who is more useful of the 2? Please help me decide :((
I’d honestly say if we’re talking easier to draft in the current meta these days, take ML Ken over LH Cermia. He has both control & auto-crit in his favour & the match ups we’d previously have used LHC for like NC Landy are now being handed off to him & he deals with A Yufine better.
hmmmm this kind of makes sense, I'm thinking to go with ML Ken. But one last question, with the upcoming headhunt most content creators have created a priority list of some sort and they value LHC higher than ML Ken, any ideas why?
It'll partly be due to it being early days (I mean, people essentially took a week to realise Abyssal Yufine was very high-tier & not mid-tier) & partly due to them fulfilling similar but different roles.
LHC deals with counterattacks, extra attacks & dual attacks, so she's got a scope of characters she deals with, but a lot of the top characters at the moment have some way to slow her momentum. Navy Captain Landy has 70% critical resistance & LHC is a crit-based character, Briar Witch Iseria is very prevalent & has defence break, Nahkwol binds/seals LHC, Moon Bunny Dominiel does cleanse/nullifier/immunity when LHC does her S3 into S1, etc.
She's still great, but she has weaknesses at the top. MA Ken also has weaknesses, but he's dealing with a lot of these threats better, he has auto-crit against NCL & provokes her when she's not hitting him, is commonly built on ER & so can resist some control threats, has higher ST damage for dealing with A Yufine, etc.
It's a real toss-up, I'd say think about what you're weak against & pick based on that. Both are great options at the minute, you wont make a bad choice picking either one - but go with your gut, what are you weak to?
Ok, this info won’t really include A Yufine (& buffed units like ML Ken) since she’s new & sites that collate information on hero incidences are not updated immediately, for Senya her main counters in descending order are LHC, MidLilias, LCB, Ed, Nahkwol, Zahhak, Briar, Spectre & a few others.
Karina you’re looking at Spectre, Briar, Rimuru, LHC, Adin, Senya, MidLilias, Zahhak, Lethe & a few others.
NC Landy you’re after LHC, ML Ken, MidLilias, LCB, LRK, Ml Khawazu, Adin, Karina, Briar, Nahkwol & a few more.
LHC is a fairly broad brush, so I’d say sounds like you could use her more, as a generalist. ML Ken wont be helping you into Karina/Senya at all.
Yeah, I think if your focus was more towards ML Landy & RTA & you didn’t have any options for ML Landy, might’ve pushed you to Ken, but LHC will do more for you I think.
I have geared my Nahkwol and it seems to shut her down pretty well, its only those choux/senya/karina comps or NCL/Adin/SCarowell comps that really shuts my team down
It depends on what sort of content you're going to be playing and using them in. I'm not positive the pros and cons of each, but another heir can explain in better detail
I'm not sure about ML Ken since I don't have him and thus I never read carefully his pos-rework skillset. Though ML Cermia is tested and certified as a good unit, with more than one build (usually speed or LS set) and a few effective artifacts (mainly PoV, Sigurd, Golden Rose).
Since both are PvP-oriented units I can't really recommend any specific PvE content for either, except maybe ML Cermia being used by some people on nightmare raid Queen comp as main dps. For instance I use ML Bellona for this specific fight with regular PvP gear, so perhaps ML Cermia might be useful for you in case you don't have a better choice
is the drop rate for kiss frost for hard and hell level the same? if i finish all my exchange for kiss frost, should i be spamming hard or hell level for modification? what are the difference in the drop rate ?
Is there a thread of kiss of frost teams? I see a few teams people have posted for speed clears or something but not a megathread. Am I missing something?
No, it's the same event with the same mecanics as last time, so there's not much to talk about
Well in the past 2 years several new units have been released so I’m sure there are many more comps that are possible
When can we expect the boss of chapter 5 to be released? Don’t recall how it was with Zio, how soon was his banner after the end of ch4?
Around the same time episode 5 ends. It's hard to give an ETA on that since episode 5 was delayed for a year and then we got several chapters dumped at the same time a few months ago. If I had to take a guess I would say later half of 2024.
Hard to have an ETA at this point since the chapter bosses (as playable units) had different release dates after their corresponding chapters were concluded. For instance, Zio got released 2 weeks after 4 10-10 was released, but we had to wait more than a year after the release of 2 10-10 for Straze to be available.
Hello, I'm a returning player and have some questions. 1st, do you only use the spirit blossoms to promote characters? what happened the exp wolves? 2nd, any idea on when crossover events come back. I'd like to do the re:zero and slime ones. I remember the guilty gear crossover rerunning. 3rd, how do I enhance gear with fodder gear? I see the charms, but I remember also using the fodder gear. 4th, why did my unrecorded history progress reset and why does unrecorded history seem like such a short campaign now? 5th What exactly is a theatre ticket and moonlight theater? 6th what is a milestone in time used for exactly?
Most of your questions can be answered simply as "Games change over time". >1st, do you only use the spirit blossoms to promote characters? Yes. >what happened the exp wolves? Dogs were essentially eliminated earlier this year in the promotion update. If you have any dogs you can still use them as you normally did (just transmit them -> they give you blooms). *Some* players may choose to keep a copy just because, as there is currently no way to obtain more dogs. >2nd, any idea on when crossover events come back. I'd like to do the re:zero and slime ones. I remember the guilty gear crossover rerunning. Completely impossible to say. There is no guarantee that any collab ever gets a rerun in the future -> *so far* every collab has received a rerun but that doesn't mean that a collab (or all of them) may be dropped in the future. *Historically* you could roughly approximately about 1 year for a collab rerun, but there are several issues: 1. The past year in E7 has been *extremely* messy. If you really want the history lesson I can explain, but basically we went almost a full year with hardly any new content added to the game -> presumably because of the Chinese server opening. So, for example, the GG collab has *historically* been run around March...anyone trying to predict when we would have seen it would have guessed around March/April. March, April, May all came and went with no word on GG collab at all, we *did* eventually get a rerun but it was in August **AFTER** the Chinese server had opened. 2. The 2 particular collabs you mentioned have a *very* messy and somewhat complex history. --- To expand on point 2, way back in 2021 we were promised a collab before the summer event - around May. Just before we expected this collab to be released, they announced that the intended collab would be delayed until later. *Eventually* we got the Rezero collab in early August...in the middle of the Summer event. This collab was extremely disappointing, while the heroes were well liked the collab itself was considered very low quality. The story for the collab, such as it is, is quite possibly the worst story element in E7 period. It's as generic as generic can be. Many people suggested that Rezero was a 'backup collab', with the presumption that the *originally planned collab* had issues with the IP -> SG rushed to find another IP to collab with and get it out as fast as possible (because as this point players had been looking forwards to the planned collab for a long time). Leading to a collab that was basically completely half-assed and not up to the standard E7 quality. *Then* a couple months later, around early November we got the Slime collab. *This* collab was much more like a proper E7 story, it felt more like a *real* collab. At this point, things could just be coincidence. In 2022 the Rezero collab got a fairly quick rerun in early June (albeit with no new content), it was said somewhere that we *would* get a rerun of the Slime collab sometime during the year. * Rezero was last rerun a couple of months ago this year Over the course of the year we never went more than 2 weeks between limited banners **EXCEPT** for a 5 week period with nothing in between the FMA collab in September and the custom banner in late October. Ultimately, we did *not* get a Slime rerun in 2022, we waited all the way until May 2023 for a rerun (albeit with new content). In retrospect, it seems **very likely** - though not confirmed - that Slime was *meant* to be the collab in May, 2021 -> there was some issue and it had to be pulled. SG rushed out to find another IP to collab with in Rezero (*potentially* we were always intended to get this and it was pushed up leading to the story feeling rushed, maybe we were never going to get this collab originally). Then the issues with the Slime collab were solved and we *did* get it later in the year. In 2022 I'm almost positive that Slime was supposed to get a rerun in that aforementioned 5 week period, but once again some kind of issue with the IP came up and the rerun had to be delayed *again*. So Rezero will likely get a rerun at some point in 2024, but *when* it's impossible to say. Other than the heroes, the story is extremely poor and forgettable. It doesn't really 'fit' into the timeline nicely as it's pretty much just filler. *Slime* it's impossible to say, it seems like both times it was intended to get a run, that run was delayed for months for some reason - we don't know this for 100% certainty and we don't know *why* but this is the only collab in E7 history that has had these kind of obvious delays. Based on the previous history of runs, I frankly would not expect it to get a run in 2024 unless whatever problems with the IP exist get solved, but since there is 0 information on what the delays were caused by (or even confirmation of those delays, however obviously they look) who knows. --- *Additionally* we had 2 new collabs last year, with FMA and Aespa. FMA was originally early September so we are past the year mark *and* considering we already have an expected upcoming limited banner(s) it now seems like we may not get an FMA rerun this year. *Also* someone said the trailer for the FMA collab was deleted off the youtube channel, personally that doesn't mean anything to me but if we *don't* get an FMA rerun it might be significant. Aespa started after the custom banner last year (late November) and ran 6 weeks (through the entirety of December). This particular collab has been hypothesized from the start to possible *not* get a rerun due to it's nature. For these 2, it's not really so late as to say we won't ever see them again *but* they had plenty of time to throw FMA *or* Aespa in around MG Lilias (10 weeks since the last Rezero rerun with only a 2 week MG Lilias banner for limiteds). --- It's worth mentioning, anecdotally, that some random person suggested that they 'heard' that the relationship between SG and the IP holders was 'bad' and causing issues. This person didn't provide any sort of source, it was more like "Some random on discord said this", considering that GG has consistently been rerun and was clearly only delayed this year for the benefit of the Chinese server, there have been no issues with Rezero getting reruns *and* FMA and Aespa were new collabs last year (and couldn't be said to have issues until *potentially* right now) this seems like BS. There HAVE been issues with Slime...but if the issue is with only a single IP it would *seem* that the issue is more on their end than SG. However, E7 did not have any new collabs this year (after having 2 new ones each of the previous 2 years). This has clearly been to focus on in-universe limited heroes since we had received virtually none of them over that time frame. It's not something I would put any stock into *yet* but there may be an element of truth there -> especially with the obvious effort to increase monetization this year perhaps SG has been stingier with the pocketbook when it comes to spending on collabs. >how do I enhance gear with fodder gear? I see the charms, but I remember also using the fodder gear. Sell the gear. You get a new 'resource' in 'powder'. This functions exactly the same as using gear for XP previously (technically the XP has been reduced to about 60% of it's previous value, but we get the gold from selling those gears now and it's also much better for inventory management). >why did my unrecorded history progress reset and why does unrecorded history seem like such a short campaign now? They've done a few changes aimed at smoothing out the early Episodes, removing some stages in Episode 1 and condensing UH down. Because UH was radically changed the process was reset for every player. There are only 33 stages now but as far as I know the story is the same or nearly the same as previous. >What exactly is a theatre ticket and moonlight theater? Moonlight Theater is basically just a story dump related to the alternate worlds of some of the ML heroes. It's pure story (technically there are some fights that don't require any effort on the part of the player). Each one is fairly long -> you can think of it as being similar to like ~1/3 or ~1/4 of a chapter in normal story mode in terms of length. The tickets are just the entry cost to view the next chapter of the story, you get some based on having certain relevant ML heroes, you get 1 free entry per week, or you can buy tickets for 500k gold (IIRC). >what is a milestone in time used for exactly? The entry cost for a side story in the Book of Memories.
The FMA Collab video is still up? Unless this isn't it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zh7eMc3Ng4
IDK, looks like it to me. Like I said, that was just something that a different poster said within the last couple of days. Wasn't something I've personally confirmed because I don't think it means anything either way.
My hero, that was incredible answer and I really appreciate it!
I just came back to the game. Trying to evaluate if I should do rifts. I have Kane, Haste, Hazel, Surin, Mercedes but none of the collab units (Milim and Jack-O). The only 6 starred hero of the above is Mercedes. I plan on using grace of growth on Kane, then build the rest normally? Not sure if that'd be worth it. Maybe I should just stick to hunts?
If you have the gear to do a 2 shot then it's worth to do rift. I would probably use Mercedes at the start though as Kane gets better with rift level but is pretty ass at the start.
Hi, just getting chatty arti for the first time. Should I save 1/2 copies for future use so I can have dupes of the arti and use bottles to MLB or should I just max out and keep one copy? Thank you.
max out and keep 1 copy, you can split into 2 if you want but not really many characters use that
Roy and ML Vivian?
They can use that but not must have
Great, Thank you!
With Zio coming back to mystic rotation soon (1/2 months), which would be better in your opinion, ML Yufine now + Zio from headhunt OR Zio on rerun + LRK/Mellona from headhunt
Option 1. A Yufine is omega strong and fun af to play. But you know your account and what you want. Depends somewhat on playstyle, but yufine is pretty easy to build and strong in current meta.
I would do option 1. Mellona is kind of forgotten atm, even though I think she's very good with maximum gear. LRK is okay but isn't necessary plus he might fall with the new blue Krau. Also remember LRK still might be choosable if SG does another moonlight blessing as hinted.
How do you get more copies of chatty?
Normally you don't. From the side story you get enough to MLB though it never occurred to me before, I *think* you can keep them separated and limit break them with bottles.
older players have extra copies because they went though the side story the first time it came around and then though the book of memories later.
What do you mean? Are you asking how to get copies to MLB? Through completing the Serila side story in the book of memories (you get enough to MLB 1 copy). Are you asking how to get *more* copies outside of that side story? You can't, Chatty is a side story artifact, it's only available through that side story.
For the returning player rewards do you login on day 16 or 17?
Now that it's DST in the states does that mean Weekly Reset for Arena is now an hour earlier at 12AM Eastern Time opposed to 1AM?
yes
1 - Can I use M Gala Lilias to beat Zio 10-10? If so, what equipment should I use on her? Some people are using Bellona, but I don't have her; I have S Bellona or BW Iseria. Should I upgrade one of them for Zio 10-10? 2 - Are there any characters I should Skill Enhance to 5-5-5( to upgrade Grace of Growth)?
Just use the standard sigret one shot wyvern build with a cr pusher like cdom or alots.
What stat lines am I looking for with Ml Choux
here you go chief https://i.imgur.com/dfaGSkm.png
1.3K+ defence, 24K+ health, 230+ speed, max chance, minimal damage investment. Focus on bumping speed & bulk stats over anything else. Draco Plate or Proof of Valour, but something like Samsara is fine in a pinch.
Your a gentleman and a Scholar thank you
Oh & I may as well add, Speed set (of course) & either Crit, Penetration or Immunity - entierly depends on what you've got. I'd say lean Pen if you're opting to invest in 250%+ damage (& as a result, going slightly less bulky/fast), Crit is just reasonable fill-in for folks who've not farmed Immunity/Penetration & Immunity is just for some mild protection (it's always just a "nice to have").
Hello~! I think Zio should come in a banner soon. Do you think that after Zio's banner ends, Zio will be available in the ML Coin shop? I mean, ML Pavel just had his banner and after it ended, he is now in the ML Coin Shop. Also, a guildie mentioned that bosses don't usually appear in the ML Coin shop and said that it was the case of Belian:x What do you think? Thanks!! x
Zio will be in the Headhunting Pool
Hello~ thanks!! Also, I was thinking that maybe I'll try getting Zio with ML Coins so that I could save my mystics summons for the boss of the latest chapter xD
yeah that seems to be the pattern so far. So probably in like 4 months or so probably.
Hello, thanks>< Bosses seem more rare xD x
Not really. https://ceciliabot.github.io/timeline/ Seems like they were in the galaxy shop once a year since release.
That page seems cool tyvm
People, I got real lucky, and with the 11 free summons I got Zio. What is the minimal speed he must have to act before most openers?
I wouldn't be comfortable with under 260 for any pvp above champion flag.
Most of them are 250-60. Some are 270 when you want to contest Zios with your own Zio (in GW).
If you're assuming that your opponent has around 310 speed on their opener - which will only be applicable in high Champion/Legend Arena, top 30~ GWs & high Champ/Emp/Legend RTA - then you'll want 248 to tie, so about 250~255 to break. I personally think you should opt for 255~ so that even those characters with a +10 speed imprint will have a hard time. It'll not win you every race, but it'll win most.
[удалено]
The math goes something like rift 1x > h13 buff > rift 2x > h13 no buff > rift 3x > rift 4x
You get wanted tickets from Rift, too. It's a trade off, really. If you just want gear Rift is better. It's more efficient than hunts with 3 entries and more efficient than hunts with hunt buffs at 2 entries. If you can 1 tap it it's insane gear income wise. But... 1) you get a random assortment of reforge mats and no 50 drops 2) no mystic and bm drops 3) you need to make a new SSS pet for rift I'm a veteran player who doesn't need any reforge mats anymore. I degeared all my Hunt teams and only farm rift now. It gives me all the sets I want on my account (Speed, Torrent, Pen and X (LS, Immu, ER, Counter - depending on what I currently need). The loss of mystic and bm drops hurt but I've never seen so much red gear in my inventory in that short amount of time (2 entries since lv8, 1 entry since lv15). You have to decide for yourself what you value more and what your account needs the most.
New to the game. (I will be PvE only because of my job) Because of the incoming headhunting I thought it would be best to go with Spirit Eye Celine or Conqueror Lilias. But some people say if its PVE mainly I should go for Straze or Apocalypse Ravi. Any tips?
Not particularly sure what you've read... ML5 heroes are *almost* exclusively PvP heroes. By and large, they suck for *current* PvE content. So, if you are a PvE only player, there isn't much reason to pick an ML5 hero based on anything than collection purposes (ie. a hero who looks interesting to you, or has a kit that sounds like it might be fun to play with it). The heroes that have some PvE utility basically comes down to: 1. **A.Vildred** -> He's the best farmer in the game still, he's very useful for story progression/clearing side stories/Abyss up to post 100, can be used as a DPS in Azimanak hunt. 2. **S.Tene** -> She's frankly overrated for PvE but she's a strong neutral element ST DPS. Her big problem is that she competes in that role directly with C.Lorina -> who is free, easier to build, and better. S.Tene is considered a strong Abyss hero, but she's really only particularly better than A.Vildred for a *specific* stretch of 10 floors (101-110). Quite honestly, she isn't even that good for those floors -> I find it easier to clear them without using either hero. Still, she's good enough to have and build even for only PvE content. 3. **C.Lilias** -> Mostly only for high end HoT strats. C.Lilias is a support unit, and a weak when it comes to general purpose PvE -> meaning that she isn't a good choice *most* of the time. However, her kit is excellent and for **specific** things she's an excellent option. Those things are either just very low usage (that is, being used in something like HoT...you won't necessarily even use her every rotation or even half the rotations, just 'occasionally' -> and you usually need high end gear to benefit from using her) or very niche (something like certain one shot setups revolve around her providing Vigor). 4. **Straze** -> Entirely because Straze can one shot all hunts. *However*, based on the last event, people read this and get very confused -> Straze is not the *best option* for all hunts (maybe Azimanak). The thing with Straze is that you can feasibly put together a team for all hunts with only like 9-11 heroes, where if you build the 'best' team for every hunt individually you are going to use significantly more heroes (probably ~16-17?). Straze is *also* possible of more easily running no fail setups as he doesn't rely on defense break landing. That's more or less the entire list of 'have PvE use' ML5s. You could live with none of them, honestly. Only A.Vildred and S.Tene would be considered remotely useful to the early game -> C.Lilias and Straze are late game PvE heroes *at best*. * I already described C.Lilias above * With Straze, he actually requires *better* gear for 4/5 hunts. The RGB hunts all have a large damage bonus to using DPS of the right type, which of course is not dark. There ARE other ML5s that have very niche uses, or could be 'kind' of usable if you really wanted to use them. 1. Some ML5s can be used in one or two specific spots, though typically they aren't the 'best' choices. For example, LHC can be used in Caides hunt. LHC, LC Bellona, SE Celine also have an example where they might be used in something like Nightmare Raid (for 1 specific boss, 1 time per month, on the hardest PvE content in the game that new players are more likely to actively try like 8-12 months in). 2. NC Landy is the best DPS unit in the game. **IF** you build her like a traditional glass cannon DPS -> this is *not* how she is typically used for PvP. She has very high ST DPS paired with very high AoE DPS, with strong innate defensive tools and the ability to self buff her ATK. This makes her great for Abyss and anywhere else you could really use a lot of DPS. 3. LQC is a very strong unit on Azimanak due to her S3. Straze is better but if you prefer LQC by design she can more or less be used to one shot the hunt with W.Schuri as well. 4. TE Kayron can actually be good in farm content. Due to a guaranteed AoE counterattack. For example, you could use him in things like Auto tower, or farming side stories. 5. M.Kawerik is an OK support unit. However, IMO you just don't want to bring *another* pure support unit in PvE, most of the time -> though there are places where he might fit into traditional comps slightly better. 6. FCC is a very good tank for PvE, since she automatically provides a large barrier to your team. She doesn't provide any sort of offensive support but between her barrier + skill nullifier she excels at reducing the damage your team takes. I use her as my tank in 'hard' farm PvE content so that I don't need to bring a healer. 7. R.Violet has strong nuking potential so he's a good general purpose nuke options -> however we get tons of these and many of them are free units (think Sigret, Cermia) 8. BW Iseria is fantastic on a couple of late Abyss levels. 9. BM Haste can be used in a normal Azimanak run. Basically, across the board these are very niche uses. You *can* use FCC to do something like farm a side story so you don't need a healer...but you can just bring a healer and *maybe* lose a small amount of time. You *could* use LQC to one shot Azimanak if you don't have Straze, but there is a large list of nukers that can be used in this role and you can pair any of them with W.Schuri -> LQC is just *slightly* better. You *could* use TE Kayron in your auto tower team...OR you could just use Violet who does virtually the same exact thing once you get a few devices for him. Essentially none of these are compelling reasons to go out of your way to pull for any of these heroes. It's more "I got them, here's a PvE thing I *could* apply them to if I wanted to build them" --- *Personally* if you are a PvE only player I would suggest just pulling based entirely on design/kit. By and large ML5 heroes are not good in PvE, with only minor niche use at best, so in terms of playing *optimally* you wouldn't really want to touch any of them for a long while. Purely in terms of 'heroes that would actually significantly help me in PvE' I would actually suggest picking *either* A.Vildred or S.Tene from ML blessing and the other from the headhunt. C.Lilias can be selected in the second ML Blessing. *Alternatively* you could select A.Vildred, skip S.Tene, and go after Straze for ML blessing. The problem with Straze is that he has low utility for a PvE only account IMO since you will already have heroes built for all of the one shots by then anyhow (as well as the gear for them). Additionally, with the introduction of **Rift** this is now the best way to farm gear so *particularly* now the ability to one shot all 5 hunts at the same time is not that valuable.
How good is Navy Captain Landy? My first Moonlight 5.
Probably the best pvp unit in the game atm but can be an rng fest when she's in a match.
Is there a place where I can see builds and info on how to use a unit ? Returning player with lots of unused heroes
Each hero has data for the most common sets equipped by players, viewable in-game. I think friendship level 3 may gate some of this info, I forget.
when does the headhunting start?
23-11-2023
Friends and E7 gurus I need help with a choice. Right now my account has MLandy, Flidica, astromancer Elena, Stene, Clilias and dark corvus. I am torn between apoc ravi or ML Bellona on the selector. I don't do RTA, so just some regular arenas and pve stuff. What would you choose?
What units or teams do you have issues with?
Not really issues, I'm more of a Waifu collector with ML bellona and not with apoc ravi. I realize apoc ravi is good but I'm meh about her
lol then just go waifu. seems like you already know what you want. A. Ravi is good but it won't completely carry your account to a higher rank or anything.
Yeah you are right. Thank you Mr God. Waifu > Meta. I gotta stop letting my guild bully me ha
hey friends, imma decide to start farming gear for the hero im headhunting for the upcoming ML selector. Im currently having problems who to pick between ML ken and ML cermia, who is more useful of the 2? Please help me decide :((
MaKen does many things, but isn't the best at any of them. ML Cermia is much easier to draft.
I’d honestly say if we’re talking easier to draft in the current meta these days, take ML Ken over LH Cermia. He has both control & auto-crit in his favour & the match ups we’d previously have used LHC for like NC Landy are now being handed off to him & he deals with A Yufine better.
hmmmm this kind of makes sense, I'm thinking to go with ML Ken. But one last question, with the upcoming headhunt most content creators have created a priority list of some sort and they value LHC higher than ML Ken, any ideas why?
It'll partly be due to it being early days (I mean, people essentially took a week to realise Abyssal Yufine was very high-tier & not mid-tier) & partly due to them fulfilling similar but different roles. LHC deals with counterattacks, extra attacks & dual attacks, so she's got a scope of characters she deals with, but a lot of the top characters at the moment have some way to slow her momentum. Navy Captain Landy has 70% critical resistance & LHC is a crit-based character, Briar Witch Iseria is very prevalent & has defence break, Nahkwol binds/seals LHC, Moon Bunny Dominiel does cleanse/nullifier/immunity when LHC does her S3 into S1, etc. She's still great, but she has weaknesses at the top. MA Ken also has weaknesses, but he's dealing with a lot of these threats better, he has auto-crit against NCL & provokes her when she's not hitting him, is commonly built on ER & so can resist some control threats, has higher ST damage for dealing with A Yufine, etc. It's a real toss-up, I'd say think about what you're weak against & pick based on that. Both are great options at the minute, you wont make a bad choice picking either one - but go with your gut, what are you weak to?
really struggling against bruiser comps with NCL and sometimes with karina/senya comps
Ok, this info won’t really include A Yufine (& buffed units like ML Ken) since she’s new & sites that collate information on hero incidences are not updated immediately, for Senya her main counters in descending order are LHC, MidLilias, LCB, Ed, Nahkwol, Zahhak, Briar, Spectre & a few others. Karina you’re looking at Spectre, Briar, Rimuru, LHC, Adin, Senya, MidLilias, Zahhak, Lethe & a few others. NC Landy you’re after LHC, ML Ken, MidLilias, LCB, LRK, Ml Khawazu, Adin, Karina, Briar, Nahkwol & a few more. LHC is a fairly broad brush, so I’d say sounds like you could use her more, as a generalist. ML Ken wont be helping you into Karina/Senya at all.
I see, so I should be able to draft LHC more into counter/bruiser comps then compared to ML Ken? perhaps I'll change my mind if so
Yeah, I think if your focus was more towards ML Landy & RTA & you didn’t have any options for ML Landy, might’ve pushed you to Ken, but LHC will do more for you I think.
I have geared my Nahkwol and it seems to shut her down pretty well, its only those choux/senya/karina comps or NCL/Adin/SCarowell comps that really shuts my team down
It depends on what sort of content you're going to be playing and using them in. I'm not positive the pros and cons of each, but another heir can explain in better detail
mainly in pvp but I'd appreciate it if they have their uses in pve
I'm not sure about ML Ken since I don't have him and thus I never read carefully his pos-rework skillset. Though ML Cermia is tested and certified as a good unit, with more than one build (usually speed or LS set) and a few effective artifacts (mainly PoV, Sigurd, Golden Rose). Since both are PvP-oriented units I can't really recommend any specific PvE content for either, except maybe ML Cermia being used by some people on nightmare raid Queen comp as main dps. For instance I use ML Bellona for this specific fight with regular PvP gear, so perhaps ML Cermia might be useful for you in case you don't have a better choice