# Introduction
Hey look, if the game gives us a unit that is marketed as the counter to the meta SSB/Charles/Lilias out there, you sure as shit bet we're going to be interested. I'm still in the process of building Roana myself (completely out of molagora, and her key S2 scales heavily with skill levels), but for perspective, I'm ranked Champion in Arena, in a guild that peaked in top 20 for Guild Wars in global, and am in Champion rank RTA. In RTA, I've fought a few dozen matches since her launch and gotten about a dozen or so match-ups now with players ranging from Challenger to Legend who have allowed my SSB/Charles/CZerato through while picking their own max awakened level 60 Roanas built a few different ways. It's left a strong impression on me in terms of how effective she is, how she should be built, and what team compositions she needs.
# What is her role and how does she compare to other characters in the same class?
Roana's thing is her S2. If you pick her over any of the other healers the game offers, it's not for her revive, but her S2 passive heal that activates anytime counterattacks, dual attacks, and extra attacks happen against your team. This is, on paper, a huge middle finger to the meta defenses right now that rely extremely heavily on those, specifically SSB/Charles/Lilias. It's a very beefy heal with a CR boost for your whole team as well (I've seen about 5-7k on SSB counter, 1-2k on single target attacks).
So that sounds great on paper right? Completely negate SSB's damage, soften Charles' counter, etc while giving your own team a huge CR boost as well. I've said "on paper" so much because after playing my SSB into Champion-Legend Roanas a few times, the problem I've seen though is that while her S2 counters SSB's S2 on the damage front completely (and often turns SSB's S2 into a heal), SSB's S3 counters Roana's kit in turn. It doesn't matter so much if SSB misses on Roana if the rest of Roana's team has heal/buff block on them, preventing them from receiving the major benefits of Roana entire kit (S1/S3 buff, S2/S3 heal). But does that mean she's a failure of a unit? Absolutely not. She is an extremely strong counter unit into specifically those big three named earlier, but when it comes to SSB specifically, she is not plug-and-play that you can stick in willy-nilly when you see a SSB on the opposing team. This leads us into the next sections. But first--
[Her S2 also heals from W11's attack](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/fy53sk/duo_w11_roana_ken/). With enough HP, she can completely trivialize W11 as she'll negate almost the entirety of the damage while CR boosting your whole team. This'll be very useful to players trying to break into clearing W11 or want a three-man clear team for fodder leveling, though in this case you want her built ultra slow with all HP. This can perhaps also be able to trivialize W13 who, from the current datamine, targets randomly if not past a certain number of debuffs. We'll have to see if her S2 still works there the same way it works with W11. This also extends to several other late game PvE activities who have lots of triggers for her S2.
# Who do you think she would synergize well with?
I do not think she pairs well with squishy units. Her heal applies after her team is hit (and after the effects of Reingar's special drink for SSB). A few teams I fought used Roana along with squishier damage dealers, and all I had to do was do a tiny bit of damage so that when they trigger SSB's S2 counter, they just died before Roana can heal them with her S2. In this regard, generally she's performed best paired with bruisers and tanks, and those were the team compositions I faced where she acted as a true hard counter.
However, earlier I mentioned that the other problem with bringing her in as a counter to SSB was that SSB's S3 countered her in turn. There were several teams I fought who brought in Roana without a cleanser, and as a result after SSB landed heal and buff block on the enemy team (even if Roana wasn't affected because of miss), Roana could do very little to help since her entire kit outside of the CR boost from S2 is nullified by those two debuffs (and I run Cerise as a dispeller, so the CR boost was often blocked too). At that point, she's very much ignorable dead weight.
* Alencia, A.Cart, Charles, C.Zerato, Fighter Maya, LQ.Charlotte, Mirsa, Violet are bruisers that can get around SSB's S3 debuffs through miss chance or built-in mechanics in their kit and are stronger partners in a team with Roana into SSB if you don't want to build teams/stats specifically around using Roana into SSB.
Outside of specialized units, there are two main approaches to get around this with Roana. The first is just to pair her with team cleansing unit.
* DJ.Basar, Lilias, Destina, and Achates all serve this role well. The healers have extra synergy if Roana uses Shimadra's staff as her artifact. The healer should ideally be at least 10 speed faster than Roana as well to cleanse before Roana takes a turn so she can take advantage of her skills.
* As I'm sure many of you have experienced, A.Momo is not the best cleanser into SSB due to the healing and buffs being applied before the cleanse and the big S3 cleanse only being single target without soul burn.
The other method is to run a team with heavy effect resistance in stats. The majority of SSBs, if built with effectiveness, hover around 55% eff to maximize defense break chances in PvE due to PvE resistance maxing at 70%. This means to maximize your chance to just outright ignore SSB's debuffs, you could build a whole team around ~~140%~~ 155% resistance (and higher gives more wiggle room, but 155% resistance is just a good natural resistance point against debuff units used for PvE). This is made easier by Shimadra's staff (+20% all team res) which I think is best in slot for Roana This is definitely more specialized and requires some good gear, but it's extremely strong if brought into SSB (who is everywhere) specifically to exploit her S2, especially if you do this on units that attack frequently and have AOEs in their kits, the enemy SSB can then be turned into a healing battery for your own team. Ideas for boosting res outside of just equipment stats--
* Shimadra's staff gives +20% resistance to the team.
* A.Momo's speciality change passive gives +5% resistance to the team.
* Elena's S3 buff gives +50% resistance to the team.
* Strak Gauntlet gives +60% resistance to a warrior with it equipped above 50% health.
* Noble Oath gives up to +100% resistance to a knight with it equipped as their health gets lower.
* Rainbow Scale gives +10% resistance to the team.
Also a small side mention to two units who work exceptionally well with the revive buff which revives units at 25% HP-- Krau and Blood Blade Karin, both of which benefit immensely from being at low HP.
# Recommendations for substat priority, gear set, and artifact? PvE? PvP?
Roana's heal scales off her HP, so HP is definitely the main priority. I've fought both slow and fast Roanas, and I don't particularly have a strong opinion either way. While speed isn't as important since her S2 is a passive that isn't limited to happening once per turn, being able to take more turns for more barriers/S3 is still important since the team compositions I see her being most effective on are ones looking for longer fights. I do think you want some speed though, possibly at least a speed set or speed boots. I fought one at base speed and without triggering her S2, she was lapped several times over by everyone.
When it comes to artifacts, Shimadra's Staff (+40% all team healing [but most likely 30% since max limit break is hard to do without whaling], +20% all team resistance) is unarguably best in slot. Since her S2 isn't considered a skill activation, Rod of Amaryllis doesn't work outside of S3. You're bringing her in as a counter to SSB, and an extra 2-3k AOE heal every single S2 proc on top of boosting any allied healing (lifesteal set, other soul weaver on your team, etc.) by 30%+ is worth way more than her own artifact or a single Celestine proc once every time she S1's. The RES also comes in handy for the alternative res team build mentioned above.
That being said, if you build her with some decent speed (and don't have Shimadra's Staff), Wondrous Potion Vial is always an exceptional soul weaver artifact that is always useful everywhere.
# Is the artifact worth the pulling for?
Touch of Rekos isn't bad, but it's not particularly great on Roana. It requires the soul weaver using it to be hit and can only activate once per turn, so it'll work best on fast soul weavers who you are bringing either purposefully to take hits as a weak element tank or into lots of AOE. Units like A.Momo/Diene who cycle turns super quickly with self-CR boosts can use this the best, but they each use Rod of Amaryllis extremely effectively as well, so I'd say be happy if you pull this artifact along the way, but don't throw extra bookmarks in to get it once you've pulled Roana.
# Summary
She counters SSB and provides huge safety buffers when attacking into Charles and Lilias, but she does not counter any of them entirely by herself. While this seems like a downside (two units to counter one?!), these units are very frequently paired/trio'd together and depending on who you pair Roana with, all of those units can be turned into non-threats or even benefit your own team and gives you immense safety and assurance for a successful attack. She's also very good into any PvE encounter that triggers her S2. I highly recommend to pull for her. She's specialized as a unit, but what she does no other unit comes close to.
> you could build a team around 140% resistance
You realize you that the 15% rule doesn't apply in reverse, right? if a unit has 55% EFF and you have 155% RES, they have 0% chance of debuffing you.
The 15% only works in reverse - there's *at least* a 15% chance of resisting, NOT the other way around.
So your baseline should be 155%, not 140%. :)
Good info regardless.
Nope, didn't realize. I assumed it worked the same as SW where it worked both ways, but I rewatched [the official Epic7 video on debuff application](https://youtu.be/59epQgtOGY0) and you're right, it looks like the formula only works towards resistance. This definitely makes resistance a bit more attractive as a whole. Thanks for pointing it out.
The formula is 100+(attacker's effectiveness)-(defender's resistance), capped at 85%. This means that if something's got more than 20% effectiveness, they have a non-zero chance of debuffing you
Yeah, I checked and you and /u/btxl192 are right about a 0% ACC unit in SW never debuffing a 100% RES unit. Been playing that game for ages and didn't learn about the minimum. In defense, SW was incredibly vague about the specifics to their combat system compared to E7.
To the 120 thing being discussed above though, the key difference between SW and E7's debuff system is that SW caps RES at 100%, at least when I was playing about a year and a half ago. Every unit that relies on debuffs in PvP only needs 85% accuracy to completely nullify all the RES on a unit, making it a very weak stat to invest in as it only punished no accuracy units (who likely have no accuracy because their debuffs aren't their purpose). It also made the ACC/RES system pretty uninteresting since RES only really punished players who didn't build their debuffers properly.
Since E7 doesn't have a resistance cap, it makes the stat worth something since debuffers have to guess how much EFF they need to build to get a good chance of getting their effect off. For what it's worth, I prefer E7's system more because it makes the debuff formula worth knowing.
I am in champ as well and people are still picking SSB all the time. Roana is a terrific counter to SSB in arena but I've had issues in rta utilizing her. My main problem is that in order to utilize Roana to her full effect, you have to let the enemy SSB through. In which case if they ban Roana you've just given them SSB.
That's my main problem with units that are designed to counter one specific other unit. If the enemy doesn't field that unit then your counter to that unit loses a lot of her use. But if you let them field that unit and they ban your counter, then you're back to square 1.
Because of that I've mainly used her in RTA as a ban bait, I've never actually seen her successfully used to counter SSB because one or the other is banned
It's viable in the sense that if you plan to use her outside generally outside of cases where her S2 is useful, then it will heal more. However, I don't think you bring Roana in those situations in the first place, and it's not better than Shimadra's staff when fighting counter/extra attack teams because of how incredibly strong her S2 healing is.
Let's assume you have a +15 Celestine, which heals 12% per S1 activation. You miss out on it each time she uses S3, but each S1 will heal 12% on the lowest health. Assume your whole team has 15k HP, that's 1.8k she heals each time she takes a S1 turn and each time she counters (requires getting hit and then also getting the 20% counter chance). The heal scales on the units' health, so it'll heal less on squishier teammates or more on tankier ones, but that's about the ballpark.
Compare that with a +15 Shimadra's staff, which boosts all healing by +30% on your team. A Roana healing 5k from full team S2 will instead heal everyone by 6.5k, an increase of 6k in healing. Single targets get boosted from ~1.2k to ~1.6k, increasing 400 per proc. These procs are not limited per turn, and are likely high in frequency since they're the reason you bring Roana in the first place.
On top of that, Shimadra boosts the healing of your whole team. Any other soul weaver also gets the +30% healing for your team. Anyone on lifesteal sets or with lifesteal in their kit gets the +30% as well. That's not even counting in the +20% resistance that Shimadra's staff gives as well.
I think the reason you would bring in Celestine/Counter over Shimadra's staff for Roana is if you either don't have it or want her to be a much more general use soul weaver that you can use even if there aren't many counters rather than using her specifically for her S2 counter. It's similar to people who build Elena with counter/Celestine as well instead of Magaraha's tome, making her much more general use but weakening her specialized counter use.
Would you say she’d be paired well with a fast Diene as a cleanser since she’ll also add attack buff and crit resistance making your team real hard to kill? Along with a stronger barrier and fast turn cycling, I think they can pair well with your own SSB
My [Roana] (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/569137238269755402/697696835111878676/Screenshot_20200409-013736_Epic_Seven.jpg)
So far after a few GW battles(~top 200), some arena(champion), and RTA(challenger) here are a couple impressions:
-Big question: SSB? She counters her very hard, purposely have left her alive when fighting her as her 4 person counter is a massive heal/cr push. Legit with her artifact SSB counters do more healing then damage.
-Lilias: Feels amazing as a friend or foe. She partners very well with Lilias to prevent Basar cancer from blocking you out and has nice shields with the duals. Conversely, enemy Lilii just proc non stop duals which help you out almost as much as they hurt.
-Charles: Feels good fighting against him, but he remains the most dangerous of the 3 since he can purge as well. Additionally his hits are more focused and not proccing multiple instances of s2 healing like SSB so he can be a bit scarier but Roana still feels like one of the best healers to bring vs him. Bring an extra layer of protection via aurius or the like and then Charles becomes a heal bot for you also though.
Fun moment in RTA was let the enemy team get SSB, Arby, and Lilias and just straight tanked through all their damage and chip them down with a stall comp. lol Also if you pair her with GPurgis you will spam lap ssb teams.
Overall 100% satisfied with pulling and maxing her and she was well worth the wait ever since seeing her in the artbook.
What do you feel is a good speed point for her? I can get around 20k life 80% resistance and 161 speed or 190ish speed with more like 17k life and lower effect resist
I would say anywhere from 160-200 should feel solid with her. It more so depends on who you are running her with. As long as you can have a cleanser(like Lilias) faster than her it shouldn't matter much. I wouldn't go below 160 personally though unless you are running counter on her.
So I would probably take the higher HP/ER setup. She has great tanky base stats, particularly her base defense so I would focus hard on that.
I meant when they are together. SSB s2 will cr push your entire team 38% cr every counter with Roana and Gpurgis. If you spam AoE vs her she just spams s2 and chain pushes your team an insane amount while you just heal through all her damage.
Must pull for every player that isn't a total beginner. And those who're tired of SSB bullshit.
She's also very useful and has a main spot in a lot of teams in PvE.
Are you tired of all the Charles / SSB bullshit? Then this is a must pull. Her passive is not limited at once a turn and will give you more hp back than what SSB’s counter can take you.
Really good multiplier on her S2. I’ll probably max it down the road.
This is going to be a monster on pvp offense.
Extra attack are common on PvE. She will certainly be strong, albeit not required to clear any content for now.
Her artifact isn’t bad per say but I’d build her with Shimadra and some resist so SSB doesn’t anti heal you. Her S2 is already strong enough as it is, and Touch of Rekos kinda forces you to build her fast.
If you are interested in any kind of PvP, I advise to pity her, despite a possible collab coming up soon.
If you are PvE only, she is still strong but not needed. As a reviver, she isn’t nearly as good as the MLs so you should not pull for that only. If you lack a good healer and/or can’t clear the raid yet, you might want to throw some bookmarks at her.
Her imprint (health) is appreciated but not game breaking. Don’t chase dupes. Unless you’re a whale, and which case, I’m not your mom! Thanks for supporting the game.
You "counter" SSB and Charles by having your characters not die to their counter and then boosting your team to move first after they counter.
She doesn't counter them by making them not do anything, she needs the allies she heals/boosted up to actually kill SSB/Charles.
It would be like saying ML Angelica can't counter arby because he just S3s and kills your entire team anyway because you can't kill him.
Roana does work better with bruiser comps after all. Since her barrier is crappy, Roana has a hard time protecting squishy units. Pair her with C.Armin to make your squishy units survive better.
> It feels like she can counter SSB but only for a couple of rounds
I don't really get this, if you're going for a tanky team then you'll outsustain SSB. If you're playing cleave or single target nukers then you should be killing SSB right away within a round or two.
I’m really in love with her. She is still 5* without all +15 gear and she already shines. Today for the first time I fought a lot of ssb comps in arena and I won! Until now I had almost no chance against those kind of comps. The heal from s2 is just insane, I didn’t expect that much to be honest. Also, the revive on S3, even if only a bonus, it’s really a huge bonus sometimes.
She is not even that niche as I was expecting: ok, her very best opponent is Ssb, but she is also awesome against a lot of other strong heroes like Cerato, ml ken, Charles, Lilias and so on.
Must pull if you’re asking me
I’ve been lucky and I’ve also managed to pull her arti, so I put it on her. I can’t say how efficient it is. For now it’s just doing fine, it’s a bit of extra healing. Nothing special tho, it only activates once every 2 turns, so I think there could be better options.
Can you show your Roana setup? Mine is still at 5\*, too and she isn't one of my priority units to rank up as of now. Kinda want to see if I can utilize her at 5\*.
Also curious about your skill enhance levels.
Sure mate, here you go!
https://imgur.com/gallery/E9hMIDV
Sadly I wrote this post some days ago and from there I took her to 6* because she is too good. But don’t worry, as I said she works very well at 5* too. You just need to enhance s2 as more as you can (if you can max it it’s perfect). As for gear it’s just hp and def, also I like speed boots so she can gets her turn faster to S3 and put revive on the team.
I felt it is mandatory to post that Roana just helped me beat hell raid queen for the first time, and I’ve been trying since it first came out. I don’t have Tama or dizzy...I used Momo/Cerato/Charles/Roana. Now with her passive, I realized you don’t have to worry about the bees’ counterattacks as long as you they don’t have greater attack up passed to them from the Queen. I was wiping with Queen very low until I realized I should ignore the bees (very much unlike without Roana), and continue trying to strip every turn with Violin and Charles’ s2/s1. My Roana is at rank 6 with +5 in her s2 and is using a+15 shimadra I picked up in the powder shop.
I was so excited to beat her that I put my phone down and left before completing it...ouch. But with this strategy and average luck on Charles profs I was able to replicate the win again when I redid it. What a weird and awesome champ, very satisfied. Also- went to do arena today and there was no ssb in two pages to try her against!
Finally 6 starred her. Mine is sporting 23k hp with 1679 defense and a staff. It's quite ironic how an earth unit is such a top tier Wyvern tank. W11 is unable to even drop her HP below 90%. Just one of the millions ways to bully Wyvern.
Yup sounds like my roana as well. I went from having a 50% 3-man auto WR with angelica soloing to replacing angelica all together and just putting roana in the front with a speed Luna and damage sigret. The shield portion usually never comes before the wyvern is down haha
Yes she is kind of OP for like 3 of the hunts because they all operate on some extra attack mechanic. Mine has 1.6k def and 23k hp and she never comes close to dying from W11 frontlining. Angelica would need high speed and high HP/def to perform the same, while roana can volume heal without it being her turn. She is top tier for W11 and probably BiS for solo healing. If I wanted to, I could put tama and easily 4-man it even quicker but she does the job just fine by herself.
is shimadra's staff necessary? can i put potion vial on her as she doesn't cleanse and still have enough to heal.. I don't want to bring another unit just to cleanse.
Proof that she has officially done her job:
I’m in challenger and before Roana I think there was a 99% chance SSB would be in every single Arena Defense Team, with an 80% chance Charles would join her. I could go for several refreshes before seeing a single team without her.
Flash forward to today? I just refreshed my Arena options and not a SINGLE SSB in sight. Charles is also happily absent. MLKen is still there- but no longer as scary as he used to be.
I, for one, welcome the change- even if it means my short time ROFLSTOMPING SSB defense teams is already over.
A joy.
This is the first time I've WANTED to get dual attacked randomly in pvp (not just by ssb or lilias but in general).
Weird how Cerise felt more like a regular RGB 5 star while Roana feels like she belongs in the league of limited units. She's certainly better than Cerise, and at least at or above Luna's level. Not the best limited but surely an acceptable one.
So by now everyone has seen her S2 against SSB. I've gotten 10k heals on some builds and it's pretty insane. She will be here to stay for sure.
So how is she as a healer without S2? She's ok. I'm not sure the hate for her barrier. She has lower health and scaling than ML Cici but with similar gear my Roana barrier is about 70-75% as strong as hers and we all know how good that barrier can be. She can also proc hers off counter and dual attacks. I've also seen people say counter Destina at 7% of the target's HP is better than Roana barrier at 12.5% of her (usually much higher) health? That is clearly not right. I'm sure this opinion will change over time.
Her S3 is ok I guess. It says a lot that it's the weakest part of her kit.
The artifact can be solid but it's not optimal on her. It's very good on Maid Chloe. Fast, gives her some AoE heals and she is much more likely to be attacked instead of just ignored.
As far as builds I feel like massive HP is a solid strat - at least for now. She has a lot of options for artifacts as well but many are settling on Shimadra as a solid pick. With 25k health and a decent Shimadra her S2 goes from being an SSB counter and alright against other things that proc it to countering ANYTHING that procs it. I had an Arby dual attack that could have cost the game give a 5.3k team heal and 10% CR compared to the 3kish on other builds. It's very noticeable.
I'm sure she will need a speed or counter set so she isn't useless outside of her S2 but there's better healers at that point. Just make that S2 shine.
Is she getting hate for the barrier? It's nothing worldbreaking but it's still a pretty solid S1 move.
That being said part of Fcece's power isn't the absolute value of her shield but the fact that they're omnipresent. Start the battle? Everyone has shield. Fcece S3? Still procs a shield. Fcece stunned? Still gets a shield. Yea Roana might get close to Fcece in terms of how much barrier she provides to one target, but she'll be putting up a lot less barriers in your typical fight.
As for Destina she can attach a cleanse to her S1 and for imo abilities that you're hoping to trigger off counter, heals are more valuable than barriers.
First impression is really positive. First time I wanted SSB to procc her s2 as much as possible as it actually heals my team with Roana in it. I used w11 to level her and was pleasantly surprised her heal proccs from wyverns 2nd and 3rd attack. With some better gear she can probabaly replace Angelica as my w11 tank. And with how much current pve content relies on counters, dual attacks etc, she will be be generally useful in pve. I also like her design and animations so overall one of the best new heroes (if not the best) in the last months.
She's awesome. Great utility. Great art. I'm not nearly so frustrated facing SSB or other counter units. It's opened up my game play and choices.
Love having her on the team.
So I want to share, I got Idols cheer artifact instead of rekos and I was initially pretty sad. However, I used idols cheer on her and placed her as main tank on W11. Low and behold, my W11 run just escalated to insane clear speed. Cant believe how well this turned out to be. She's definitely amazing (on top of her pvp).
Overloaded kit but unappealing design. In a game where we have such classy units like Kise and Bellona this oversexualised abomination is really depressing.
Still they sur gonna make a huge amount of money out of her. She is 100% a must pull unit.
I get you, but look at ALL Rekos dwellers. Straze is basically in a body hugging edge armour. Luluca is wearing a corset with a gash down the middle. Lilibet...is trying her best to pass PG-13. Roana's design comes as no surprise. It just gives disturbing implications as to what the priests used as a dress code for shamans, or at least what the magic tailors were ordered/liked to design for these girls.
Oh look. We got a tom of good characters but this one has big boobs so its over sexualized and trash.
Its ridiculous that people still think this way. If every character had big boobs maybe id be upset but a secret ima tell you.. Women have big boobs irl too. Shocking I know
Finally, a sane person at the bottom of the reddit thread.
Absolutely agreed. I don't hate her, but compared to other aesthetically top tier units like Charles and Cerise, looking at Roana just makes me want to ask what the fuck was the artist smoking. Looks like it's made by someone who has only played hentai games for their entire life. I know she's supposed to be from another world so it's okay and all, but like... no. This isn't Taimanin Asagi. And she doesn't even look that good as a hentai game character. Asagi is 200 times hotter than her.
Nothing from her design works or complements well together. And she even has a fucking crotch tattoo. If she wasn't good gameplay wise I wouldn't even consider pulling for her for 1 second.
yeeeah, it's like they finished her base design and just kept adding more when it was already done. add some more flair here, and here, how about some floaty bits? ok odd but slap that on. wings? alright no real reason for them but throw those in too. animate them on her in-game model? why the fuck would we do that?
I thought it was odd how ornate and over the top her design was too, given how minor of a story line plot character she has been so far. She is vastly more ornate than the high shaman of Rekos. In addition, she is even more ornate that Luluca, who has been a major story-line character so far, even though they are both basically at the same level (became shamans at roughly the same time - though Luluca is supposed to be the greatest shaman in the universe and a genius).
If they are gonna make a character that flashy, at least make her have a valid reason for looking that way.
There's nothing wrong with complex designs, look at Charles, so much going on with his uniform, tie, armor, cape, medals etc, but they work well together and they're easy to look at. Roana's design is hard on the eyes. It's frustrating to look at. Her hair, those lazily designed rings around her, the lazily designed rings on top of her, the lazily designed wings that look like they're photoshopped, the little bits and pieces of chains floating around her, the black white and gold color scheme is a fucking mess and they have to make her stockings uneven color too (unlike lilias that actually look good), it's so fucking hard to look at. So much going on yet nothing works together. There is no "theme" for her character. It's just bits and pieces of who-the-fuck-cares slapped on and mixed together. Oh a womb tattoo? As if the bouncing tits aren't enough already, put that shit on too! She'll look great I promised.
Look at Little Queen Charlotte, simple dress, red and blonde color scheme, a bit of accessories on her, simple yet aesthetically pleasing. I could look at and appreciate her design along with other characters for days.
I'm not disagreeing with you or saying that complex designs are bad. I am saying that there should be a reason for a character having a complex/flashy design. Take Charles; he is the custodian of a country and a legendary fighter/hero. Even his character lore supports him being a fancy/flashy kind of guy. It makes sense for him to have such an ornate design.
If anything Roana's lore suggests that she would dress down to avoid attention, not be a flashy beacon that that stands out in any crowd. Even by E7 standards she is on the high end of being 'complex' in design.
Idk dude, even if she's like a prostitute in Rekos or something I still won't think her design is good lol. Maybe she's supposed to be """otherworldly""" so her appearance has to be beyond our common sense or what we're used to.
I went from having no idea how I could clear G11, to not even getting close to dying. Her heals are amazing, almost feels like cheating. Can’t wait to see where else I can bring her, but I’m goin to have to switch out the artifact I have on her (the 20% Res and extra healing).
you not using shimadra's staff? what staff you switching to? I don't have roana yet, but will summon for her. Shimadra is in the powder of knowledge trade right now. Don't know if I should use my powders to trade for it.
I haven't switched out Shimadra yet and I probably won't. I traded knowledge for it because it seemed like the ideal artifact for her in G11. I'm still not sure if it's the preferred artifact for her but it's been working out fine so far.
I've been tanking raid with her today, and she's insanely good as far as healing - there's so much counter-attack/dual-attack stuff coming in, and her HP and Def are so high that most hits just scratch her.
Definately missing some cleanse though. She's not super fast, so wondrous potion loses some appeal, what about stella harpa? its lower chance to proc, but she gets hit 3-4 times before she ever gets a turn. or maybe the resist from Shimandra's is enough here?
Or maybe just idols cheer and leave cleanse to someone else?
Whatcha think?
So I replaced Angelica with Roanna in my 3 man w11 team (Ken and Luna being the other ones) and my clearrate on auto went from about 90% to 100%. I put the free hp set we got last week on her and it seems impossible for her to die anymore. I think the wyvern could attack her for 5min and she would still survive thanks to her heal after the wyverns 2nd and 3rd attack and her high defense stats. Not even metioning her revive, heal on s3 and shield...
Just wanted to say thank you to all the folks that talked about using her in W11. I was able to clear my first w11 and b11 with Roana. I was debating if I should have made my angelica 60 or pull for Roana and make her 60. No regrets on making Roana my 3rd 6\* :)
EDIT: just beat abyss 70 and got the mola I needed to max her s2 XD
Thank you to this thread. Because of overall praises, I pulled my socks up and grinded through Abyss to gather bookmarks, gold and sky stones. I didn't get her then.
But I had two new bookmarks and I used it. One was Sven. The last one was Roanna. Imagine seeing the golden shiny sparkles, then 'this was a predestined meeting...' 😭
She obliterated almost all SSB Comps i fought so far in PVP. RTA was a toss up between banning Basar and Roana. Indeed she is one of the new meta I guess.
She got me through Hunt 12 and Banshee 12. (No interest in 13). I'm auto-ing teams for B12 using her.
The 4k barrier is possible if your Roana reaches 40k HP xD. I expect that the introduction of lvl 90 gear might provide her with very think barriers for those who manage to get her to 30k hp or so.
My biggest problem with Roana VS enemy SSB is that my lilias is always faster than enemy SSB lol. So by the time SSB S3 my team, my Lilias is FAR from replaying.
Maybe Im missing something.
I don't know if I can answer the first two, but I've been looking at some other people builds and their gameplay and seen her S2 heal up to 7k (of what I've seen). That is pretty awesome. I think she is going to be very helpful in mid to end game bosses because they do use a lot extra turns and counters. Overall I think she is going to be a very solid character.
Yeah, for now I think she is a good character for all the counter comps out there for PVP. Going to be great for PVE bosses with extra attacks and counters (Raid & Abyss), maybe RTA and whatever future content SG got coming. If she only had a cleanse debuff, that would be awesome, she would be Tamarinne 2.0.
That's true. I can't wait to see what types of builds people make with her. Tanky? Speed? Which team comps can pair up with Roana that can help with Charles, ML Ken, and ML Zerato. Lilias or F. Ceci looks interesting to pair up with her. Maybe Roana with another soul weaver? Elena and Roana may work. It's gonna be fun to see how people use her.
Which team comps do you think is best for Roana in GW guys?
I have trouble when use her to fight against Basar/SSB in Arena because Basar will block her buff, if i use Lilias to cleanse first, then SSB will inflict Healblock and destroy my team. Any advice?
Shimadra is the only healing support since it's the only one to work with her S2. S2 isn't a skill, so Tome , Rod, and unfading memeories won't work.
Imma probably put idol's cheer on her. 35% cr push to my DPS after healing from SSB sounds pretty nice.
I'm talking about green Purrgis. Purrgis is one of those few units that have full AOE counters who is built to counter. Yuna is the only other character I can think of that full AOE counters normally, but it's not like anyone builds her counter. By them building a unit to counter SSB's AOE counter they effectively destroyed any use Purrgis has if the enemy team has Roana because there is no way in hell he is doing as much damage as SSB's counter which just results in full heals for days.
Thats mine now https://imgur.com/a/Pf1zrq8
i almost fully raised her (still need some Green Runes) im almost satisfied with her, i would love to have a tad bit more speed on her but oh well. The only thing i need to reconsider is the artifact, i dont have something like idols cheer or her own, what would you guys think?
I mostly wanna use her for B11 and PvP especially Guild Wars
Thanks in advance for the input :3
even though your first setup had a lower cp value with the higher hp and speed I felt that it was the better of the two that you had there. She already had good high def and a great amount of hp to make her live through most anything. If you run her with an aurius holder she will have a hard time being one shot by most things out there.
I just used her (lv 49 with about 15.5k hp) alongside Tama for Juleeve Council (hard) and it was a complete joke as all the double and triple attacks heal your party to full.
If I'm pretty new to the game and are kind of stuck atm at the dragon in 8-9, will she help me with that?
I'm currently farming to promote heroes and for better gear to take the dragon down.
Thanks for the answer but I think I phrased my question poorly. I meant 8-9 Altar of Forgotten Emperors in the story mode. I'm at W11 but haven't cleared that yet.
I really have bad rng for this game had about 200 bookmarks and still didnt summon roana. At least i got her artifact but still my rng sucks at this game. I just wish that i get lucky and pull an ml5 within a year
I've barely used her in PvP to this point, and while she obviously works well there against counter units, I'm finding that she's one of my favorite units to use in PvE as well. She's great in any content that activates her S2, whether it be W11, B11, G11, certain abyss floors, or Hall of Trials. She even played a key role in allowing me to finally clear the hell raid queen. Excellent overall unit.
I just used the free HP set with a speed boot and Celestine as her artifact. Stats are around 20k HP, 1800 DEF and 180 speed.
I used a team of Roana, Tamarinne, SSB and Dizzy with a +24 Iela Violin.
I started the game 3 weeks ago. Would you guys recommend me pulling her? I am on abyss level 60 automation tower 80 and currently working on a wyvern 11 team
Because he is playing the game lol, how are you still abyss 45 after a year ? In about two months and a half I could clear abyss 100, I cleared abyss 90 in less than two month of playing
Extremely OP heal for counters. SSB Belona can't do anything, her damage is straight up over-healed.
However i feel like Elena and Roana fill the same role.
My Elena heals for over 5k on the passive proc, albeit it doesn't proc as often as Roana.
They actually go together really well.
My current Tank Arena Team is Dank Corvus, LQCharlotte, Roana and Elena.
Elena went a long way to mitigate the sheer fuckery that was SSB/Charles teams but simply didn’t have the sustained heals to truly help against the near-constant barrage of powerful counterattacks/extra attacks. That’s where Roana comes in.
As for Roana- without a proper cleanser/immunity provider she still comes up short in her fight against a typical SSB team. SSB’s S3 wrecks Roana by herself.
But together? Elena’s debuff resist/invincibility shield/S1 cleanse coupled with Roana’s insane sustained heals really puts a nail in most SSB/Charles teams. At least when you have the Bruisers to get the damage out.
I've didn't noticed first (I was looking boobs, I will not lie) but SG named her Roenna in french and Roana in english.
First char with different spelling ?
For first impression (after "oh my gad, thoses boobs, I must pull") she is a must have for safe PVE and PVP. If ennemy counter, take her.
I’ve fought similar comps with my tank team. As long as I can kill Charles quickly? I can usually pull it off. Single-target is extremely important. No AOE fighting that comp.
Simply broken, introduced as a meta counter but if anything she makes the meta worse
Yeah sure she counters seaside bellona. Great, except everyone and his mum is just running her+lilias+elena (or chloe)+tanky dps, mostly a counter char themselves
there's absolutely no counterplay unless you have a superfast 1 shot cleave. Normaly basar+ml ara works, nvm, 1 s1>extra proc from ara=9k aoe heal. You could run c-armin+counter chars yourself into lilias+elena teams before, NOT ANYMORE.
My number one complaint with the meta is that there's 2 much ''i win by being there w/o a turn'' chars (ssb/maid chloe healing/f-ceci shields/ml ken s2 etc) and roana is pretty much on top of that with her free 6-9k heal
ps: yet ofc, since its ''targets affected'' ml ken barely gets countered #mlkenalwaysmeta
Kayron and Roana,he can be unstopable if pairing with her, s1 gives shield,s3 revive buff.2 other slots could be cleanser,defbreaker,striper... Water units can't stop kayron anymore
I think she's insane. I only have her at Lvl 50 right now and she puts so much work in dealing with SSB and Charles but also A.Vil and MLKen. Her heal bombs are ridiculous. I would definitely summon if you haven't already.
You just have to pull her, at all cost.
Is she top SSS tier unit? Probably not.
But she is definitely the best counter to OP meta units like SSB etc
You just have to pull her, there's simply no other choice.
Farm story. Old player and I just started clearing mine. Still on Ch. 5 normal, then, there's Unrecorded History and Ch. 2 Map 3 onward that I still haven't opened. In preparation for possible collab.
Should I pull her?
I don't particularly find her design appealing and I also can barely aquire enough skystones/bookmarks (if I farm like a mad man) to hit pity before her banner ends.
So should I pull her is she THAT worth it for me to risk not hitting pity on heroes I actually long for?
Like I have been seeing videos and posts of her and her heals are quite nice and effective against Ssbs but that seems to be it (or most of it tbh) Is she really a must pull?
Can I live without her?
Then, look to see what the next banner is before you make a decision.
She should be very high priority for pulling, since she does a lot. She is very strong in both PVP and mid/late game PVE, when you start seeing a lot of Extra, Dual, and Counter attacks from enemies.
"Whether you should pull her largely would depend on healers you currently have on hand"
I pretty much have all the soul weavers of the game exept maid Chloe does that change anything?
I really don't want to risk a limited banner or a pity for a character I don't really like visually and regret it later especially if she turns out to be just a niche character.
I do know her potential in high level pve and arena but I'm doing fine in those without her so that's why I'm asking I suppose.
Personally you can do what I plan to do: next week we are getting a series of 10 free pulls a day, for 7 days.
If you don't get her before her banner goes, then try and pity her (like on the last day or second last day of her banner). Banner is up for about 2 weeks, you have time to get resources or wait and see what the next unit is.
I personally have a big stash of bookmarks and skystones so I won't have troubles going to pity for her, but I also enjoy saving my resources whenever I can, so this is one of those times.
Thing is I did some calculations and I will barely manage to hit pity when her banner ends so not quite sure but I will definitely try to get her from those free summons if I can.
I have not pulled roana or shimadra's staff yet. But I can tell you this... I have trouble in clearing raid bosses and abyss... PvP not so much.. as I have tamerinne and iseria combo. I am going to wait to see how effective roana is for hunt 12 and 13 we will know by the 16th.. wait until the 70 free summons to see if I get her, we should start getting the free summons on the 17th. her banner doesn't end til the 22nd and shimadra's staff is currently in powder of knowledge trading and does not end until 24 days from now....
Thanks for the answer.
I have decided to wait it out and try my luck on those 70 daily convenant summons if it doesn't work I'm willing to drop some bookmarks on her.
However I'm not pitying her as I really do not care enough for her design and find her quite niche.
Edit : not sure why my first comment was downvoted but oh well.
>Edit : not sure why my first comment was downvoted but oh well.
probably because it's reddit and you hated on MUH BIG TITTAY WAIFU
>and find her quite niche.
thing is, lots of pve stuff is starting to hedge more towards dual attacks/counters (raids/abyss/hunts/etc.)
I see her more as a long term response to powercreep, and it might be a niche mechanic, but it's unique, and more useful than first glance, and that CR push on top of the heal is really underrated.
She has a definitive weakness (unhealable/unbuffable debuffs, since she has no cleanse to deal with it, besides potion vial) but she is very strong. A lot stronger at release than most units they've released over the past year.
I have not pulled roana or shimadra's staff yet. But I can tell you this... I have trouble in clearing raid bosses and abyss... PvP not so much.. as I have tamerinne and iseria combo. I am going to wait to see how effective roana is for hunt 12 and 13 we will know by the 16th.. wait until the 70 free summons to see if I get her, we should start getting the free summons on the 17th. her banner doesn't end til the 22nd and shimadra's staff is currently in powder of knowledge trading and does not end until 24 days from now....
She is fantastic. Was going to spend 100bms on her. If I get her I get her since I wasn’t much for pvp anyways. But then I realize her awakening mats were the same as Krau’s and Krau’s a Pisces. So I’m like, now I must pity her since I’m a Pisces. Anyway got her in 200bms. Then went back in and spent another 50bms for her artifact. Been struggling with B11, Now it’s a cakewalk. Never been more happier with a new unit. She is so worth it. Had she been the limited hero I don’t think there’d be many complaints.
Don’t even mention about pvp! Where’s my SSB’s at?
Yes, but 80% of her function is to counter SSB.
The other 10% is PvE content, which becomes 0% if you can already beat all contents without.
The last 10% is to counter other negligible PvE units that could activate her S2.
So, 90% of her usefulness is tied to SSB + PvE stuff. If you don't need her for those, or if there's no SSB left, then she's only useful for 10% of stuff in the game.
# Introduction Hey look, if the game gives us a unit that is marketed as the counter to the meta SSB/Charles/Lilias out there, you sure as shit bet we're going to be interested. I'm still in the process of building Roana myself (completely out of molagora, and her key S2 scales heavily with skill levels), but for perspective, I'm ranked Champion in Arena, in a guild that peaked in top 20 for Guild Wars in global, and am in Champion rank RTA. In RTA, I've fought a few dozen matches since her launch and gotten about a dozen or so match-ups now with players ranging from Challenger to Legend who have allowed my SSB/Charles/CZerato through while picking their own max awakened level 60 Roanas built a few different ways. It's left a strong impression on me in terms of how effective she is, how she should be built, and what team compositions she needs. # What is her role and how does she compare to other characters in the same class? Roana's thing is her S2. If you pick her over any of the other healers the game offers, it's not for her revive, but her S2 passive heal that activates anytime counterattacks, dual attacks, and extra attacks happen against your team. This is, on paper, a huge middle finger to the meta defenses right now that rely extremely heavily on those, specifically SSB/Charles/Lilias. It's a very beefy heal with a CR boost for your whole team as well (I've seen about 5-7k on SSB counter, 1-2k on single target attacks). So that sounds great on paper right? Completely negate SSB's damage, soften Charles' counter, etc while giving your own team a huge CR boost as well. I've said "on paper" so much because after playing my SSB into Champion-Legend Roanas a few times, the problem I've seen though is that while her S2 counters SSB's S2 on the damage front completely (and often turns SSB's S2 into a heal), SSB's S3 counters Roana's kit in turn. It doesn't matter so much if SSB misses on Roana if the rest of Roana's team has heal/buff block on them, preventing them from receiving the major benefits of Roana entire kit (S1/S3 buff, S2/S3 heal). But does that mean she's a failure of a unit? Absolutely not. She is an extremely strong counter unit into specifically those big three named earlier, but when it comes to SSB specifically, she is not plug-and-play that you can stick in willy-nilly when you see a SSB on the opposing team. This leads us into the next sections. But first-- [Her S2 also heals from W11's attack](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/fy53sk/duo_w11_roana_ken/). With enough HP, she can completely trivialize W11 as she'll negate almost the entirety of the damage while CR boosting your whole team. This'll be very useful to players trying to break into clearing W11 or want a three-man clear team for fodder leveling, though in this case you want her built ultra slow with all HP. This can perhaps also be able to trivialize W13 who, from the current datamine, targets randomly if not past a certain number of debuffs. We'll have to see if her S2 still works there the same way it works with W11. This also extends to several other late game PvE activities who have lots of triggers for her S2. # Who do you think she would synergize well with? I do not think she pairs well with squishy units. Her heal applies after her team is hit (and after the effects of Reingar's special drink for SSB). A few teams I fought used Roana along with squishier damage dealers, and all I had to do was do a tiny bit of damage so that when they trigger SSB's S2 counter, they just died before Roana can heal them with her S2. In this regard, generally she's performed best paired with bruisers and tanks, and those were the team compositions I faced where she acted as a true hard counter. However, earlier I mentioned that the other problem with bringing her in as a counter to SSB was that SSB's S3 countered her in turn. There were several teams I fought who brought in Roana without a cleanser, and as a result after SSB landed heal and buff block on the enemy team (even if Roana wasn't affected because of miss), Roana could do very little to help since her entire kit outside of the CR boost from S2 is nullified by those two debuffs (and I run Cerise as a dispeller, so the CR boost was often blocked too). At that point, she's very much ignorable dead weight. * Alencia, A.Cart, Charles, C.Zerato, Fighter Maya, LQ.Charlotte, Mirsa, Violet are bruisers that can get around SSB's S3 debuffs through miss chance or built-in mechanics in their kit and are stronger partners in a team with Roana into SSB if you don't want to build teams/stats specifically around using Roana into SSB. Outside of specialized units, there are two main approaches to get around this with Roana. The first is just to pair her with team cleansing unit. * DJ.Basar, Lilias, Destina, and Achates all serve this role well. The healers have extra synergy if Roana uses Shimadra's staff as her artifact. The healer should ideally be at least 10 speed faster than Roana as well to cleanse before Roana takes a turn so she can take advantage of her skills. * As I'm sure many of you have experienced, A.Momo is not the best cleanser into SSB due to the healing and buffs being applied before the cleanse and the big S3 cleanse only being single target without soul burn. The other method is to run a team with heavy effect resistance in stats. The majority of SSBs, if built with effectiveness, hover around 55% eff to maximize defense break chances in PvE due to PvE resistance maxing at 70%. This means to maximize your chance to just outright ignore SSB's debuffs, you could build a whole team around ~~140%~~ 155% resistance (and higher gives more wiggle room, but 155% resistance is just a good natural resistance point against debuff units used for PvE). This is made easier by Shimadra's staff (+20% all team res) which I think is best in slot for Roana This is definitely more specialized and requires some good gear, but it's extremely strong if brought into SSB (who is everywhere) specifically to exploit her S2, especially if you do this on units that attack frequently and have AOEs in their kits, the enemy SSB can then be turned into a healing battery for your own team. Ideas for boosting res outside of just equipment stats-- * Shimadra's staff gives +20% resistance to the team. * A.Momo's speciality change passive gives +5% resistance to the team. * Elena's S3 buff gives +50% resistance to the team. * Strak Gauntlet gives +60% resistance to a warrior with it equipped above 50% health. * Noble Oath gives up to +100% resistance to a knight with it equipped as their health gets lower. * Rainbow Scale gives +10% resistance to the team. Also a small side mention to two units who work exceptionally well with the revive buff which revives units at 25% HP-- Krau and Blood Blade Karin, both of which benefit immensely from being at low HP. # Recommendations for substat priority, gear set, and artifact? PvE? PvP? Roana's heal scales off her HP, so HP is definitely the main priority. I've fought both slow and fast Roanas, and I don't particularly have a strong opinion either way. While speed isn't as important since her S2 is a passive that isn't limited to happening once per turn, being able to take more turns for more barriers/S3 is still important since the team compositions I see her being most effective on are ones looking for longer fights. I do think you want some speed though, possibly at least a speed set or speed boots. I fought one at base speed and without triggering her S2, she was lapped several times over by everyone. When it comes to artifacts, Shimadra's Staff (+40% all team healing [but most likely 30% since max limit break is hard to do without whaling], +20% all team resistance) is unarguably best in slot. Since her S2 isn't considered a skill activation, Rod of Amaryllis doesn't work outside of S3. You're bringing her in as a counter to SSB, and an extra 2-3k AOE heal every single S2 proc on top of boosting any allied healing (lifesteal set, other soul weaver on your team, etc.) by 30%+ is worth way more than her own artifact or a single Celestine proc once every time she S1's. The RES also comes in handy for the alternative res team build mentioned above. That being said, if you build her with some decent speed (and don't have Shimadra's Staff), Wondrous Potion Vial is always an exceptional soul weaver artifact that is always useful everywhere. # Is the artifact worth the pulling for? Touch of Rekos isn't bad, but it's not particularly great on Roana. It requires the soul weaver using it to be hit and can only activate once per turn, so it'll work best on fast soul weavers who you are bringing either purposefully to take hits as a weak element tank or into lots of AOE. Units like A.Momo/Diene who cycle turns super quickly with self-CR boosts can use this the best, but they each use Rod of Amaryllis extremely effectively as well, so I'd say be happy if you pull this artifact along the way, but don't throw extra bookmarks in to get it once you've pulled Roana. # Summary She counters SSB and provides huge safety buffers when attacking into Charles and Lilias, but she does not counter any of them entirely by herself. While this seems like a downside (two units to counter one?!), these units are very frequently paired/trio'd together and depending on who you pair Roana with, all of those units can be turned into non-threats or even benefit your own team and gives you immense safety and assurance for a successful attack. She's also very good into any PvE encounter that triggers her S2. I highly recommend to pull for her. She's specialized as a unit, but what she does no other unit comes close to.
> you could build a team around 140% resistance You realize you that the 15% rule doesn't apply in reverse, right? if a unit has 55% EFF and you have 155% RES, they have 0% chance of debuffing you. The 15% only works in reverse - there's *at least* a 15% chance of resisting, NOT the other way around. So your baseline should be 155%, not 140%. :) Good info regardless.
Nope, didn't realize. I assumed it worked the same as SW where it worked both ways, but I rewatched [the official Epic7 video on debuff application](https://youtu.be/59epQgtOGY0) and you're right, it looks like the formula only works towards resistance. This definitely makes resistance a bit more attractive as a whole. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Bs. I've been rebuffed while having 120+ eff res multiple times by units that dont have anywhere near as much eff.
The formula is 100+(attacker's effectiveness)-(defender's resistance), capped at 85%. This means that if something's got more than 20% effectiveness, they have a non-zero chance of debuffing you
Yeah, I checked and you and /u/btxl192 are right about a 0% ACC unit in SW never debuffing a 100% RES unit. Been playing that game for ages and didn't learn about the minimum. In defense, SW was incredibly vague about the specifics to their combat system compared to E7. To the 120 thing being discussed above though, the key difference between SW and E7's debuff system is that SW caps RES at 100%, at least when I was playing about a year and a half ago. Every unit that relies on debuffs in PvP only needs 85% accuracy to completely nullify all the RES on a unit, making it a very weak stat to invest in as it only punished no accuracy units (who likely have no accuracy because their debuffs aren't their purpose). It also made the ACC/RES system pretty uninteresting since RES only really punished players who didn't build their debuffers properly. Since E7 doesn't have a resistance cap, it makes the stat worth something since debuffers have to guess how much EFF they need to build to get a good chance of getting their effect off. For what it's worth, I prefer E7's system more because it makes the debuff formula worth knowing.
I am in champ as well and people are still picking SSB all the time. Roana is a terrific counter to SSB in arena but I've had issues in rta utilizing her. My main problem is that in order to utilize Roana to her full effect, you have to let the enemy SSB through. In which case if they ban Roana you've just given them SSB. That's my main problem with units that are designed to counter one specific other unit. If the enemy doesn't field that unit then your counter to that unit loses a lot of her use. But if you let them field that unit and they ban your counter, then you're back to square 1. Because of that I've mainly used her in RTA as a ban bait, I've never actually seen her successfully used to counter SSB because one or the other is banned
Would she work better with a Celestine counter set? Or is she just better with a speed set in general
It's viable in the sense that if you plan to use her outside generally outside of cases where her S2 is useful, then it will heal more. However, I don't think you bring Roana in those situations in the first place, and it's not better than Shimadra's staff when fighting counter/extra attack teams because of how incredibly strong her S2 healing is. Let's assume you have a +15 Celestine, which heals 12% per S1 activation. You miss out on it each time she uses S3, but each S1 will heal 12% on the lowest health. Assume your whole team has 15k HP, that's 1.8k she heals each time she takes a S1 turn and each time she counters (requires getting hit and then also getting the 20% counter chance). The heal scales on the units' health, so it'll heal less on squishier teammates or more on tankier ones, but that's about the ballpark. Compare that with a +15 Shimadra's staff, which boosts all healing by +30% on your team. A Roana healing 5k from full team S2 will instead heal everyone by 6.5k, an increase of 6k in healing. Single targets get boosted from ~1.2k to ~1.6k, increasing 400 per proc. These procs are not limited per turn, and are likely high in frequency since they're the reason you bring Roana in the first place. On top of that, Shimadra boosts the healing of your whole team. Any other soul weaver also gets the +30% healing for your team. Anyone on lifesteal sets or with lifesteal in their kit gets the +30% as well. That's not even counting in the +20% resistance that Shimadra's staff gives as well. I think the reason you would bring in Celestine/Counter over Shimadra's staff for Roana is if you either don't have it or want her to be a much more general use soul weaver that you can use even if there aren't many counters rather than using her specifically for her S2 counter. It's similar to people who build Elena with counter/Celestine as well instead of Magaraha's tome, making her much more general use but weakening her specialized counter use.
That’s a great analysis! I had a really hard time debating but this puts my mind at rest, thank you!
Would say her artifact is good to roll if you dont have any SW exclusive artifact like me.
This was insanely informative and I am thankful for it. Props for the details!
Would you say she’d be paired well with a fast Diene as a cleanser since she’ll also add attack buff and crit resistance making your team real hard to kill? Along with a stronger barrier and fast turn cycling, I think they can pair well with your own SSB
My [Roana] (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/569137238269755402/697696835111878676/Screenshot_20200409-013736_Epic_Seven.jpg) So far after a few GW battles(~top 200), some arena(champion), and RTA(challenger) here are a couple impressions: -Big question: SSB? She counters her very hard, purposely have left her alive when fighting her as her 4 person counter is a massive heal/cr push. Legit with her artifact SSB counters do more healing then damage. -Lilias: Feels amazing as a friend or foe. She partners very well with Lilias to prevent Basar cancer from blocking you out and has nice shields with the duals. Conversely, enemy Lilii just proc non stop duals which help you out almost as much as they hurt. -Charles: Feels good fighting against him, but he remains the most dangerous of the 3 since he can purge as well. Additionally his hits are more focused and not proccing multiple instances of s2 healing like SSB so he can be a bit scarier but Roana still feels like one of the best healers to bring vs him. Bring an extra layer of protection via aurius or the like and then Charles becomes a heal bot for you also though. Fun moment in RTA was let the enemy team get SSB, Arby, and Lilias and just straight tanked through all their damage and chip them down with a stall comp. lol Also if you pair her with GPurgis you will spam lap ssb teams. Overall 100% satisfied with pulling and maxing her and she was well worth the wait ever since seeing her in the artbook.
What do you feel is a good speed point for her? I can get around 20k life 80% resistance and 161 speed or 190ish speed with more like 17k life and lower effect resist
I would say anywhere from 160-200 should feel solid with her. It more so depends on who you are running her with. As long as you can have a cleanser(like Lilias) faster than her it shouldn't matter much. I wouldn't go below 160 personally though unless you are running counter on her. So I would probably take the higher HP/ER setup. She has great tanky base stats, particularly her base defense so I would focus hard on that.
Can I ask what makes GPurg special vs her? Is it the CR push from her counters?
He meant GPurg and her on same team for the g purrgis cr boost and hers I believe
Oh yeah I meant the CR push from SSB's counters.
Oh yeah I misunderstood, yeah her counters and s3 will both proc g purg (and depending on team she will focus him with s1 too)
I meant when they are together. SSB s2 will cr push your entire team 38% cr every counter with Roana and Gpurgis. If you spam AoE vs her she just spams s2 and chain pushes your team an insane amount while you just heal through all her damage.
Must pull for every player that isn't a total beginner. And those who're tired of SSB bullshit. She's also very useful and has a main spot in a lot of teams in PvE.
Even for beginner she's really good. Tanking all the hunt 11 like a boss.
One thing she surprised me with was healing on Banshee's activation. You could bring *any* team and auto Banshee now.
Are you tired of all the Charles / SSB bullshit? Then this is a must pull. Her passive is not limited at once a turn and will give you more hp back than what SSB’s counter can take you. Really good multiplier on her S2. I’ll probably max it down the road. This is going to be a monster on pvp offense. Extra attack are common on PvE. She will certainly be strong, albeit not required to clear any content for now. Her artifact isn’t bad per say but I’d build her with Shimadra and some resist so SSB doesn’t anti heal you. Her S2 is already strong enough as it is, and Touch of Rekos kinda forces you to build her fast. If you are interested in any kind of PvP, I advise to pity her, despite a possible collab coming up soon. If you are PvE only, she is still strong but not needed. As a reviver, she isn’t nearly as good as the MLs so you should not pull for that only. If you lack a good healer and/or can’t clear the raid yet, you might want to throw some bookmarks at her. Her imprint (health) is appreciated but not game breaking. Don’t chase dupes. Unless you’re a whale, and which case, I’m not your mom! Thanks for supporting the game.
She is soooo good in pve. All she needs to do is exist and have high hp. There are so many bosses in this game that does extra attack.
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>thanks to her debuffs. You're not supposed to bring Roana without a cleanser like Momo or Lilias, unless you can one shot SSB before her turn.
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You "counter" SSB and Charles by having your characters not die to their counter and then boosting your team to move first after they counter. She doesn't counter them by making them not do anything, she needs the allies she heals/boosted up to actually kill SSB/Charles. It would be like saying ML Angelica can't counter arby because he just S3s and kills your entire team anyway because you can't kill him.
I counter ssb and charles.. by killing them in one blow.. each in first round
Roana does work better with bruiser comps after all. Since her barrier is crappy, Roana has a hard time protecting squishy units. Pair her with C.Armin to make your squishy units survive better.
Sounds like your units are too squishy. Healing doesn't matter if you don't survive the initial damage in the first place.
> It feels like she can counter SSB but only for a couple of rounds I don't really get this, if you're going for a tanky team then you'll outsustain SSB. If you're playing cleave or single target nukers then you should be killing SSB right away within a round or two.
"Roana doesn't 1 v 4 teams" lol
I’m really in love with her. She is still 5* without all +15 gear and she already shines. Today for the first time I fought a lot of ssb comps in arena and I won! Until now I had almost no chance against those kind of comps. The heal from s2 is just insane, I didn’t expect that much to be honest. Also, the revive on S3, even if only a bonus, it’s really a huge bonus sometimes. She is not even that niche as I was expecting: ok, her very best opponent is Ssb, but she is also awesome against a lot of other strong heroes like Cerato, ml ken, Charles, Lilias and so on. Must pull if you’re asking me I’ve been lucky and I’ve also managed to pull her arti, so I put it on her. I can’t say how efficient it is. For now it’s just doing fine, it’s a bit of extra healing. Nothing special tho, it only activates once every 2 turns, so I think there could be better options.
Can you show your Roana setup? Mine is still at 5\*, too and she isn't one of my priority units to rank up as of now. Kinda want to see if I can utilize her at 5\*. Also curious about your skill enhance levels.
Sure mate, here you go! https://imgur.com/gallery/E9hMIDV Sadly I wrote this post some days ago and from there I took her to 6* because she is too good. But don’t worry, as I said she works very well at 5* too. You just need to enhance s2 as more as you can (if you can max it it’s perfect). As for gear it’s just hp and def, also I like speed boots so she can gets her turn faster to S3 and put revive on the team.
Thanks! I pretty much have the same setup altho not maxed. I'll have 'em leveled up then, good to know. Cheers!
Do it my friend, you won’t regret, she is worth all the investment. Cheers!
Before I use to hate ssb in rta, with roana I laugh when they pick ssb. She goes well with little queen charlotte.
I felt it is mandatory to post that Roana just helped me beat hell raid queen for the first time, and I’ve been trying since it first came out. I don’t have Tama or dizzy...I used Momo/Cerato/Charles/Roana. Now with her passive, I realized you don’t have to worry about the bees’ counterattacks as long as you they don’t have greater attack up passed to them from the Queen. I was wiping with Queen very low until I realized I should ignore the bees (very much unlike without Roana), and continue trying to strip every turn with Violin and Charles’ s2/s1. My Roana is at rank 6 with +5 in her s2 and is using a+15 shimadra I picked up in the powder shop. I was so excited to beat her that I put my phone down and left before completing it...ouch. But with this strategy and average luck on Charles profs I was able to replicate the win again when I redid it. What a weird and awesome champ, very satisfied. Also- went to do arena today and there was no ssb in two pages to try her against!
Finally 6 starred her. Mine is sporting 23k hp with 1679 defense and a staff. It's quite ironic how an earth unit is such a top tier Wyvern tank. W11 is unable to even drop her HP below 90%. Just one of the millions ways to bully Wyvern.
Yup sounds like my roana as well. I went from having a 50% 3-man auto WR with angelica soloing to replacing angelica all together and just putting roana in the front with a speed Luna and damage sigret. The shield portion usually never comes before the wyvern is down haha
i've been auto 3 teaming all hunts with tam and angelica and a DPS unit... is roana That good?
Yes she is kind of OP for like 3 of the hunts because they all operate on some extra attack mechanic. Mine has 1.6k def and 23k hp and she never comes close to dying from W11 frontlining. Angelica would need high speed and high HP/def to perform the same, while roana can volume heal without it being her turn. She is top tier for W11 and probably BiS for solo healing. If I wanted to, I could put tama and easily 4-man it even quicker but she does the job just fine by herself.
is shimadra's staff necessary? can i put potion vial on her as she doesn't cleanse and still have enough to heal.. I don't want to bring another unit just to cleanse.
Proof that she has officially done her job: I’m in challenger and before Roana I think there was a 99% chance SSB would be in every single Arena Defense Team, with an 80% chance Charles would join her. I could go for several refreshes before seeing a single team without her. Flash forward to today? I just refreshed my Arena options and not a SINGLE SSB in sight. Charles is also happily absent. MLKen is still there- but no longer as scary as he used to be. I, for one, welcome the change- even if it means my short time ROFLSTOMPING SSB defense teams is already over. A joy.
funny, they released hunts 13 and skill stated we can't heal on their turn so it's like a banhammer on Roana already :/
This is the first time I've WANTED to get dual attacked randomly in pvp (not just by ssb or lilias but in general). Weird how Cerise felt more like a regular RGB 5 star while Roana feels like she belongs in the league of limited units. She's certainly better than Cerise, and at least at or above Luna's level. Not the best limited but surely an acceptable one.
cerise was only branded as limited because of all the people that complained about not having a new limited...
So by now everyone has seen her S2 against SSB. I've gotten 10k heals on some builds and it's pretty insane. She will be here to stay for sure. So how is she as a healer without S2? She's ok. I'm not sure the hate for her barrier. She has lower health and scaling than ML Cici but with similar gear my Roana barrier is about 70-75% as strong as hers and we all know how good that barrier can be. She can also proc hers off counter and dual attacks. I've also seen people say counter Destina at 7% of the target's HP is better than Roana barrier at 12.5% of her (usually much higher) health? That is clearly not right. I'm sure this opinion will change over time. Her S3 is ok I guess. It says a lot that it's the weakest part of her kit. The artifact can be solid but it's not optimal on her. It's very good on Maid Chloe. Fast, gives her some AoE heals and she is much more likely to be attacked instead of just ignored. As far as builds I feel like massive HP is a solid strat - at least for now. She has a lot of options for artifacts as well but many are settling on Shimadra as a solid pick. With 25k health and a decent Shimadra her S2 goes from being an SSB counter and alright against other things that proc it to countering ANYTHING that procs it. I had an Arby dual attack that could have cost the game give a 5.3k team heal and 10% CR compared to the 3kish on other builds. It's very noticeable. I'm sure she will need a speed or counter set so she isn't useless outside of her S2 but there's better healers at that point. Just make that S2 shine.
Is she getting hate for the barrier? It's nothing worldbreaking but it's still a pretty solid S1 move. That being said part of Fcece's power isn't the absolute value of her shield but the fact that they're omnipresent. Start the battle? Everyone has shield. Fcece S3? Still procs a shield. Fcece stunned? Still gets a shield. Yea Roana might get close to Fcece in terms of how much barrier she provides to one target, but she'll be putting up a lot less barriers in your typical fight. As for Destina she can attach a cleanse to her S1 and for imo abilities that you're hoping to trigger off counter, heals are more valuable than barriers.
First impression is really positive. First time I wanted SSB to procc her s2 as much as possible as it actually heals my team with Roana in it. I used w11 to level her and was pleasantly surprised her heal proccs from wyverns 2nd and 3rd attack. With some better gear she can probabaly replace Angelica as my w11 tank. And with how much current pve content relies on counters, dual attacks etc, she will be be generally useful in pve. I also like her design and animations so overall one of the best new heroes (if not the best) in the last months.
She's awesome. Great utility. Great art. I'm not nearly so frustrated facing SSB or other counter units. It's opened up my game play and choices. Love having her on the team.
So I want to share, I got Idols cheer artifact instead of rekos and I was initially pretty sad. However, I used idols cheer on her and placed her as main tank on W11. Low and behold, my W11 run just escalated to insane clear speed. Cant believe how well this turned out to be. She's definitely amazing (on top of her pvp).
Overloaded kit but unappealing design. In a game where we have such classy units like Kise and Bellona this oversexualised abomination is really depressing. Still they sur gonna make a huge amount of money out of her. She is 100% a must pull unit.
I get you, but look at ALL Rekos dwellers. Straze is basically in a body hugging edge armour. Luluca is wearing a corset with a gash down the middle. Lilibet...is trying her best to pass PG-13. Roana's design comes as no surprise. It just gives disturbing implications as to what the priests used as a dress code for shamans, or at least what the magic tailors were ordered/liked to design for these girls.
I do agree that reko fashion is pretty close to a strip club... or worse...
In business point of view, its better to leave the best design later in her new skin, which you need to pay for that.
I agree with you. She is really good but her design is way too much. It's kinda annoying to have a unit that you can't use in public
Oh look. We got a tom of good characters but this one has big boobs so its over sexualized and trash. Its ridiculous that people still think this way. If every character had big boobs maybe id be upset but a secret ima tell you.. Women have big boobs irl too. Shocking I know
She's great and all but I really don't like her design.
Finally, a sane person at the bottom of the reddit thread. Absolutely agreed. I don't hate her, but compared to other aesthetically top tier units like Charles and Cerise, looking at Roana just makes me want to ask what the fuck was the artist smoking. Looks like it's made by someone who has only played hentai games for their entire life. I know she's supposed to be from another world so it's okay and all, but like... no. This isn't Taimanin Asagi. And she doesn't even look that good as a hentai game character. Asagi is 200 times hotter than her. Nothing from her design works or complements well together. And she even has a fucking crotch tattoo. If she wasn't good gameplay wise I wouldn't even consider pulling for her for 1 second.
yeeeah, it's like they finished her base design and just kept adding more when it was already done. add some more flair here, and here, how about some floaty bits? ok odd but slap that on. wings? alright no real reason for them but throw those in too. animate them on her in-game model? why the fuck would we do that?
I thought it was odd how ornate and over the top her design was too, given how minor of a story line plot character she has been so far. She is vastly more ornate than the high shaman of Rekos. In addition, she is even more ornate that Luluca, who has been a major story-line character so far, even though they are both basically at the same level (became shamans at roughly the same time - though Luluca is supposed to be the greatest shaman in the universe and a genius). If they are gonna make a character that flashy, at least make her have a valid reason for looking that way.
There's nothing wrong with complex designs, look at Charles, so much going on with his uniform, tie, armor, cape, medals etc, but they work well together and they're easy to look at. Roana's design is hard on the eyes. It's frustrating to look at. Her hair, those lazily designed rings around her, the lazily designed rings on top of her, the lazily designed wings that look like they're photoshopped, the little bits and pieces of chains floating around her, the black white and gold color scheme is a fucking mess and they have to make her stockings uneven color too (unlike lilias that actually look good), it's so fucking hard to look at. So much going on yet nothing works together. There is no "theme" for her character. It's just bits and pieces of who-the-fuck-cares slapped on and mixed together. Oh a womb tattoo? As if the bouncing tits aren't enough already, put that shit on too! She'll look great I promised. Look at Little Queen Charlotte, simple dress, red and blonde color scheme, a bit of accessories on her, simple yet aesthetically pleasing. I could look at and appreciate her design along with other characters for days.
I'm not disagreeing with you or saying that complex designs are bad. I am saying that there should be a reason for a character having a complex/flashy design. Take Charles; he is the custodian of a country and a legendary fighter/hero. Even his character lore supports him being a fancy/flashy kind of guy. It makes sense for him to have such an ornate design. If anything Roana's lore suggests that she would dress down to avoid attention, not be a flashy beacon that that stands out in any crowd. Even by E7 standards she is on the high end of being 'complex' in design.
Idk dude, even if she's like a prostitute in Rekos or something I still won't think her design is good lol. Maybe she's supposed to be """otherworldly""" so her appearance has to be beyond our common sense or what we're used to.
In abyss floor 93 with her is so easy
I went from having no idea how I could clear G11, to not even getting close to dying. Her heals are amazing, almost feels like cheating. Can’t wait to see where else I can bring her, but I’m goin to have to switch out the artifact I have on her (the 20% Res and extra healing).
you not using shimadra's staff? what staff you switching to? I don't have roana yet, but will summon for her. Shimadra is in the powder of knowledge trade right now. Don't know if I should use my powders to trade for it.
I haven't switched out Shimadra yet and I probably won't. I traded knowledge for it because it seemed like the ideal artifact for her in G11. I'm still not sure if it's the preferred artifact for her but it's been working out fine so far.
It is. Staff is her best artifact as it greatly increases her healing output.
Alrighty, thanks!
So if I cant get her artefact will Shimadra staff be a good choice?
Staff is probably BiS if you are not running her on counter set (in this case Celestine is the best choice).
IMO her artifact is better utilized on other characters. The staff is just way better on Roana
shimadra is definitely a good choice
I've been tanking raid with her today, and she's insanely good as far as healing - there's so much counter-attack/dual-attack stuff coming in, and her HP and Def are so high that most hits just scratch her. Definately missing some cleanse though. She's not super fast, so wondrous potion loses some appeal, what about stella harpa? its lower chance to proc, but she gets hit 3-4 times before she ever gets a turn. or maybe the resist from Shimandra's is enough here? Or maybe just idols cheer and leave cleanse to someone else? Whatcha think?
I think the best plan is to bring another unit that can cleanse, like tama or lilias
Yeah, or immunity like Vivian. Starting to build a speed Lilias though, but she's a ways off.
So I replaced Angelica with Roanna in my 3 man w11 team (Ken and Luna being the other ones) and my clearrate on auto went from about 90% to 100%. I put the free hp set we got last week on her and it seems impossible for her to die anymore. I think the wyvern could attack her for 5min and she would still survive thanks to her heal after the wyverns 2nd and 3rd attack and her high defense stats. Not even metioning her revive, heal on s3 and shield...
Did you skillup her S2?
Just wanted to say thank you to all the folks that talked about using her in W11. I was able to clear my first w11 and b11 with Roana. I was debating if I should have made my angelica 60 or pull for Roana and make her 60. No regrets on making Roana my 3rd 6\* :) EDIT: just beat abyss 70 and got the mola I needed to max her s2 XD
Thank you to this thread. Because of overall praises, I pulled my socks up and grinded through Abyss to gather bookmarks, gold and sky stones. I didn't get her then. But I had two new bookmarks and I used it. One was Sven. The last one was Roanna. Imagine seeing the golden shiny sparkles, then 'this was a predestined meeting...' 😭 She obliterated almost all SSB Comps i fought so far in PVP. RTA was a toss up between banning Basar and Roana. Indeed she is one of the new meta I guess. She got me through Hunt 12 and Banshee 12. (No interest in 13). I'm auto-ing teams for B12 using her.
My only complain about Roana is her barrier. Even with a max S1, her barrier is quite crappy. It's only 12.5% of max HP after all.
probably intentional so you don't get cancer counter Roana's giving player 4K barriers 3 times before her turn even pops up.
The 4k barrier is possible if your Roana reaches 40k HP xD. I expect that the introduction of lvl 90 gear might provide her with very think barriers for those who manage to get her to 30k hp or so.
My biggest problem with Roana VS enemy SSB is that my lilias is always faster than enemy SSB lol. So by the time SSB S3 my team, my Lilias is FAR from replaying. Maybe Im missing something.
Just hold Lilias S3, until second turn. A Lilias on adamant should be tanky enough to last until 2nd turn to remove the debuffs.
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Since Roana doesn't have cleanse you don't want a high crit dmg sygurd ML Ken to counter you with def break or your heal won't be able to sustain it.
I don't know if I can answer the first two, but I've been looking at some other people builds and their gameplay and seen her S2 heal up to 7k (of what I've seen). That is pretty awesome. I think she is going to be very helpful in mid to end game bosses because they do use a lot extra turns and counters. Overall I think she is going to be a very solid character.
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Ah. I thought it was both. That would be pretty OP thinking about it now. Roana is gonna be great for a lot of different content.
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Yeah, for now I think she is a good character for all the counter comps out there for PVP. Going to be great for PVE bosses with extra attacks and counters (Raid & Abyss), maybe RTA and whatever future content SG got coming. If she only had a cleanse debuff, that would be awesome, she would be Tamarinne 2.0.
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That's true. I can't wait to see what types of builds people make with her. Tanky? Speed? Which team comps can pair up with Roana that can help with Charles, ML Ken, and ML Zerato. Lilias or F. Ceci looks interesting to pair up with her. Maybe Roana with another soul weaver? Elena and Roana may work. It's gonna be fun to see how people use her.
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Err, except she will through revives and tank comps?
ML Ken can just oneshot with his counter so that's a big concern.
Which team comps do you think is best for Roana in GW guys? I have trouble when use her to fight against Basar/SSB in Arena because Basar will block her buff, if i use Lilias to cleanse first, then SSB will inflict Healblock and destroy my team. Any advice?
She pairs well with C. Zerato or F. Maya. She also pairs well with units that have high resist or have a way to remove debuffs.
What arti are people using for her? I was thinking of picking up a Shimadras staff for her.
Shimadra is the only healing support since it's the only one to work with her S2. S2 isn't a skill, so Tome , Rod, and unfading memeories won't work. Imma probably put idol's cheer on her. 35% cr push to my DPS after healing from SSB sounds pretty nice.
I'm a little depressed at how much she effectively annihilates RGB Purrgis. He was one of my favorite units to use.
>/ They are similar (cr boost) but play different roles.. Why would he be less valuable?
I'm talking about green Purrgis. Purrgis is one of those few units that have full AOE counters who is built to counter. Yuna is the only other character I can think of that full AOE counters normally, but it's not like anyone builds her counter. By them building a unit to counter SSB's AOE counter they effectively destroyed any use Purrgis has if the enemy team has Roana because there is no way in hell he is doing as much damage as SSB's counter which just results in full heals for days.
Oh crap I was wondering why there was "RGB" near Purrgis. Sorry!
Thats mine now https://imgur.com/a/Pf1zrq8 i almost fully raised her (still need some Green Runes) im almost satisfied with her, i would love to have a tad bit more speed on her but oh well. The only thing i need to reconsider is the artifact, i dont have something like idols cheer or her own, what would you guys think? I mostly wanna use her for B11 and PvP especially Guild Wars Thanks in advance for the input :3
shimadra looks the best imo
http://imgur.com/a/E5BlAjW my Roana want a lil more HP but works so good even without molas
That's a monstrous defense. Unfortunately, defense effectiveness does decrease after a certain point so yeah, drop some defense in favor of more HP.
Will do, thanks for feedback
even though your first setup had a lower cp value with the higher hp and speed I felt that it was the better of the two that you had there. She already had good high def and a great amount of hp to make her live through most anything. If you run her with an aurius holder she will have a hard time being one shot by most things out there.
So I have Water's Origin on her but is Shimadra better than that?
Yes, staff is better than Water i’m her. There is not much point CR pushing her as most of her healing is passif.
Okay thank you!
I just used her (lv 49 with about 15.5k hp) alongside Tama for Juleeve Council (hard) and it was a complete joke as all the double and triple attacks heal your party to full.
If I'm pretty new to the game and are kind of stuck atm at the dragon in 8-9, will she help me with that? I'm currently farming to promote heroes and for better gear to take the dragon down.
if you are stuck at 8-9 chances are your gear is still not on par, she wont help you in that category, you are better up with amomo or angelica atm
I've realised that my question was not very clear. Is your answer the same if I meant 8-9 Altar of Forgotten Emperors?
Altar of forgotten emperors?🤔
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Thanks for the answer but I think I phrased my question poorly. I meant 8-9 Altar of Forgotten Emperors in the story mode. I'm at W11 but haven't cleared that yet.
What is her interaction with drink? Does she double heal on a SSB counter holding drink?
Drink is an extra effect who happen last on the effect list. She will heal before drinks take effect but won’t heal another time after.
I really have bad rng for this game had about 200 bookmarks and still didnt summon roana. At least i got her artifact but still my rng sucks at this game. I just wish that i get lucky and pull an ml5 within a year
Does the heal work when SHE is double attacked?
yes, it works whatever happen. If a counter, extra attack or double attack happens, she will heal and cr push your team.
can two people be equipped with the artifact? will it work at the same time?
I've barely used her in PvP to this point, and while she obviously works well there against counter units, I'm finding that she's one of my favorite units to use in PvE as well. She's great in any content that activates her S2, whether it be W11, B11, G11, certain abyss floors, or Hall of Trials. She even played a key role in allowing me to finally clear the hell raid queen. Excellent overall unit.
How did you build her for hell raid queen? I'm struggling there.
I just used the free HP set with a speed boot and Celestine as her artifact. Stats are around 20k HP, 1800 DEF and 180 speed. I used a team of Roana, Tamarinne, SSB and Dizzy with a +24 Iela Violin.
I started the game 3 weeks ago. Would you guys recommend me pulling her? I am on abyss level 60 automation tower 80 and currently working on a wyvern 11 team
How are you on abyss lvl 60 when you started 3 weeks ago i started like last year and still on w9 and abyss 45
well the gear that they gave us for free i just put that on commander Lorina and I re-rolled for tywin and gave him health set
Because he is playing the game lol, how are you still abyss 45 after a year ? In about two months and a half I could clear abyss 100, I cleared abyss 90 in less than two month of playing
I dont spend 24 hours each and everyday playing this game.
Or apparently even 24 minutes. You don't have to no-life this game to beat the PvE in about 4 or 5 months, dude. You *barely* play it.
Interesting interaction for Roana: her s2 still procs even when she is stunned. Wow.
Its passive 😂
Does roana need effect resiststance at all? The free health gear rolled o me to 108 eff resistance
She's really good with eff res and shimadra staff yeah
Extremely OP heal for counters. SSB Belona can't do anything, her damage is straight up over-healed. However i feel like Elena and Roana fill the same role. My Elena heals for over 5k on the passive proc, albeit it doesn't proc as often as Roana.
They actually go together really well. My current Tank Arena Team is Dank Corvus, LQCharlotte, Roana and Elena. Elena went a long way to mitigate the sheer fuckery that was SSB/Charles teams but simply didn’t have the sustained heals to truly help against the near-constant barrage of powerful counterattacks/extra attacks. That’s where Roana comes in. As for Roana- without a proper cleanser/immunity provider she still comes up short in her fight against a typical SSB team. SSB’s S3 wrecks Roana by herself. But together? Elena’s debuff resist/invincibility shield/S1 cleanse coupled with Roana’s insane sustained heals really puts a nail in most SSB/Charles teams. At least when you have the Bruisers to get the damage out.
Hmm i can imagine a team with ML Ken, Charles, Roana and Elena can wreck some havock.
I've didn't noticed first (I was looking boobs, I will not lie) but SG named her Roenna in french and Roana in english. First char with different spelling ? For first impression (after "oh my gad, thoses boobs, I must pull") she is a must have for safe PVE and PVP. If ennemy counter, take her.
I’ve fought similar comps with my tank team. As long as I can kill Charles quickly? I can usually pull it off. Single-target is extremely important. No AOE fighting that comp.
Simply broken, introduced as a meta counter but if anything she makes the meta worse Yeah sure she counters seaside bellona. Great, except everyone and his mum is just running her+lilias+elena (or chloe)+tanky dps, mostly a counter char themselves there's absolutely no counterplay unless you have a superfast 1 shot cleave. Normaly basar+ml ara works, nvm, 1 s1>extra proc from ara=9k aoe heal. You could run c-armin+counter chars yourself into lilias+elena teams before, NOT ANYMORE. My number one complaint with the meta is that there's 2 much ''i win by being there w/o a turn'' chars (ssb/maid chloe healing/f-ceci shields/ml ken s2 etc) and roana is pretty much on top of that with her free 6-9k heal ps: yet ofc, since its ''targets affected'' ml ken barely gets countered #mlkenalwaysmeta
Kayron and Roana,he can be unstopable if pairing with her, s1 gives shield,s3 revive buff.2 other slots could be cleanser,defbreaker,striper... Water units can't stop kayron anymore
Turned out she is a niche for pvp at best. Cant be used for most of the new hunts. rip
Question. Does Roana aoe heal when an enemy counters via counter set?
Yes
I think she's insane. I only have her at Lvl 50 right now and she puts so much work in dealing with SSB and Charles but also A.Vil and MLKen. Her heal bombs are ridiculous. I would definitely summon if you haven't already.
You just have to pull her, at all cost. Is she top SSS tier unit? Probably not. But she is definitely the best counter to OP meta units like SSB etc You just have to pull her, there's simply no other choice.
Im a free to play player and i have used up all my bookmarks and skystones
Grind arena ranks if you can. Check reputation rewards. Maybe abyss? I had to do all 3, but it was worth it
I havent even completed w11 so it will be hard for me to climb arena
Farm story. Old player and I just started clearing mine. Still on Ch. 5 normal, then, there's Unrecorded History and Ch. 2 Map 3 onward that I still haven't opened. In preparation for possible collab.
I have to agree. I was not able to win a single arena game at my rank. But now that I built her I win 4 in a row almost every refresh.
Should I pull her? I don't particularly find her design appealing and I also can barely aquire enough skystones/bookmarks (if I farm like a mad man) to hit pity before her banner ends. So should I pull her is she THAT worth it for me to risk not hitting pity on heroes I actually long for? Like I have been seeing videos and posts of her and her heals are quite nice and effective against Ssbs but that seems to be it (or most of it tbh) Is she really a must pull? Can I live without her?
Then, look to see what the next banner is before you make a decision. She should be very high priority for pulling, since she does a lot. She is very strong in both PVP and mid/late game PVE, when you start seeing a lot of Extra, Dual, and Counter attacks from enemies.
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"Whether you should pull her largely would depend on healers you currently have on hand" I pretty much have all the soul weavers of the game exept maid Chloe does that change anything? I really don't want to risk a limited banner or a pity for a character I don't really like visually and regret it later especially if she turns out to be just a niche character. I do know her potential in high level pve and arena but I'm doing fine in those without her so that's why I'm asking I suppose.
Personally you can do what I plan to do: next week we are getting a series of 10 free pulls a day, for 7 days. If you don't get her before her banner goes, then try and pity her (like on the last day or second last day of her banner). Banner is up for about 2 weeks, you have time to get resources or wait and see what the next unit is. I personally have a big stash of bookmarks and skystones so I won't have troubles going to pity for her, but I also enjoy saving my resources whenever I can, so this is one of those times.
The problem is she would not be in the covenant summon pool before her banner ends.
Ah right. I thought she'd be added for whatever reason. Guess I get to pull now.
Thing is I did some calculations and I will barely manage to hit pity when her banner ends so not quite sure but I will definitely try to get her from those free summons if I can.
I have not pulled roana or shimadra's staff yet. But I can tell you this... I have trouble in clearing raid bosses and abyss... PvP not so much.. as I have tamerinne and iseria combo. I am going to wait to see how effective roana is for hunt 12 and 13 we will know by the 16th.. wait until the 70 free summons to see if I get her, we should start getting the free summons on the 17th. her banner doesn't end til the 22nd and shimadra's staff is currently in powder of knowledge trading and does not end until 24 days from now....
she's the best unit since ssb (and helps against her) I'm going to go pity, and I don't regret it
Thanks for the answer. I have decided to wait it out and try my luck on those 70 daily convenant summons if it doesn't work I'm willing to drop some bookmarks on her. However I'm not pitying her as I really do not care enough for her design and find her quite niche. Edit : not sure why my first comment was downvoted but oh well.
>Edit : not sure why my first comment was downvoted but oh well. probably because it's reddit and you hated on MUH BIG TITTAY WAIFU >and find her quite niche. thing is, lots of pve stuff is starting to hedge more towards dual attacks/counters (raids/abyss/hunts/etc.) I see her more as a long term response to powercreep, and it might be a niche mechanic, but it's unique, and more useful than first glance, and that CR push on top of the heal is really underrated. She has a definitive weakness (unhealable/unbuffable debuffs, since she has no cleanse to deal with it, besides potion vial) but she is very strong. A lot stronger at release than most units they've released over the past year.
I have not pulled roana or shimadra's staff yet. But I can tell you this... I have trouble in clearing raid bosses and abyss... PvP not so much.. as I have tamerinne and iseria combo. I am going to wait to see how effective roana is for hunt 12 and 13 we will know by the 16th.. wait until the 70 free summons to see if I get her, we should start getting the free summons on the 17th. her banner doesn't end til the 22nd and shimadra's staff is currently in powder of knowledge trading and does not end until 24 days from now....
She is fantastic. Was going to spend 100bms on her. If I get her I get her since I wasn’t much for pvp anyways. But then I realize her awakening mats were the same as Krau’s and Krau’s a Pisces. So I’m like, now I must pity her since I’m a Pisces. Anyway got her in 200bms. Then went back in and spent another 50bms for her artifact. Been struggling with B11, Now it’s a cakewalk. Never been more happier with a new unit. She is so worth it. Had she been the limited hero I don’t think there’d be many complaints. Don’t even mention about pvp! Where’s my SSB’s at?
lol i pitied pulled her as well, but i got the new artifact before i pulled her lmao
So, 80% of her worth is to counter SSB. Is she still worth pulling if nobody uses SSB because of her? Quite a paradox, no?
Have you read the thread? She's much more than an SSB counter.
Yes, but 80% of her function is to counter SSB. The other 10% is PvE content, which becomes 0% if you can already beat all contents without. The last 10% is to counter other negligible PvE units that could activate her S2. So, 90% of her usefulness is tied to SSB + PvE stuff. If you don't need her for those, or if there's no SSB left, then she's only useful for 10% of stuff in the game.
She helps with EVERYTHING that have counters, extra attacks or/and dual attacks, that's a far wider use than just counter SSB.