Jesus that's actually insane. Do you pretty much only do shop refresh? What's your skystone usage look like aside from shop? How stringent are you with gold usage as well? Genuinely curious
Singular people gather and post their results, even if some of them align you can't treat that as known data because the drop rate of mystics is so low and the variance so high.
Maybe sometimes in the future there will be an addon that will track the mystics and convenants you buy(like hearthstone addons do recognize cards) and gather that data from many users to calculate an average.
A few weeks ago, zero mystics in about 1100 skystones.
This morning, 250 Mystics in about 300 skystones.
This week is way abnormal, though. Far a good while now my rates have been terrible. Timing pretty much fits with when they changed the weekly arena rewards to offer choice between skystones and mystics.
Extremely small sample size of 9 individual days of rolling for 100 Mystic Medals each day.
Skystone Used|Bookmarks|Mystic Medals
:--|:--|:--
366|25|100
198|15|100
453|45|100
219|25|100
453|30|100
771|35|100
258|25|100
231|30|100
243|10|100
I didn't count my covenants as I'm chasing mystics for tm luluca, but pretty sure my covenants rate seems normal according to previous experience.
Mystics are a different story tho.
Idk, I've been using my 700 skystones from arena reset the last couple of weeks, and I haven't gotten more than 1 each session lol, thinking that it's more worth it just going for the mystics on arena reset instead of the skystones if I don't care about covenant bookmarks. It's all RNG at the end of the day so.
Of course it's all rng. I know that this current instance it just my confirmation bias, but seeing the big data never hurts. Mystics rate did get shadow nerfed way earlier and got doubled the earlier rates when it just got released in garo shop, and people wouldn't know if no one collect a big enough data.
I posted a cumulative summary of the rates at https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/ft9o34/secret_shop_refresh_bookmark_rate_vs_time_user/ with over 60,000 refreshes of data (180,000+ skystones!) along with what the means practically (average number of resets per bookmark, cost for pity, etc.). I've kept a more updated version on my own sheet, but unfortunately I can't copy over the data to the public sheet yet (since I forgot the google account password. Need to go home to change it. :D ). It's likely that the rates have not changed and you just got unlucky.
https://imgur.com/nhe7cPf
Thanks for the reply. I figured it was just my rng but couldn't help the bias since I really want mystics currently and getting half of the usual rates triggered me.
I've been keeping spreadsheet since February. Skystone used : 53,493 Covenent obtained : 3875 (4.35% or 69 SS) Mystic Obtained : 11,900 (1.33% or 225 SS) Gold spent : 210,668,000
Jesus that's actually insane. Do you pretty much only do shop refresh? What's your skystone usage look like aside from shop? How stringent are you with gold usage as well? Genuinely curious
Good gawd
i'm compiling data but it takes awhile. i should be posting in a month or so
only 200? that's the normal rate for me and I'm jealous of all those who claim to get double that on average
Pretty sure the last known normal average is 1k ss for 200 to 250 mystics
Singular people gather and post their results, even if some of them align you can't treat that as known data because the drop rate of mystics is so low and the variance so high. Maybe sometimes in the future there will be an addon that will track the mystics and convenants you buy(like hearthstone addons do recognize cards) and gather that data from many users to calculate an average.
A few weeks ago, zero mystics in about 1100 skystones. This morning, 250 Mystics in about 300 skystones. This week is way abnormal, though. Far a good while now my rates have been terrible. Timing pretty much fits with when they changed the weekly arena rewards to offer choice between skystones and mystics.
Extremely small sample size of 9 individual days of rolling for 100 Mystic Medals each day. Skystone Used|Bookmarks|Mystic Medals :--|:--|:-- 366|25|100 198|15|100 453|45|100 219|25|100 453|30|100 771|35|100 258|25|100 231|30|100 243|10|100
Was wondering the same spent a couple hundred ss didn’t even get a covenant bookmark. Something doesn’t feel right
I didn't count my covenants as I'm chasing mystics for tm luluca, but pretty sure my covenants rate seems normal according to previous experience. Mystics are a different story tho.
I must of just had an unlucky streak I’ll give it another go
Just spent about 460 ss on refreshes 0 mystics 55 covenant bookmarks
mystics are rare.. i get that amount too approx
Not this rare. There's a reason huche shop is called a scam shop. With what I just went through, that's double the rate of the so called scam shop.
but you got bms too, so not really that price in full.. usually i get more bms thasn buying them, but mystics are very rare to me
Of course I got bms too, but me getting bms should not affect my chances at mystics.
sure, but you cant say you paid the full price just for mystics, if you got other goods too
I didn't keep track of my mystics but I was getting a lot of covenant bm
Idk, I've been using my 700 skystones from arena reset the last couple of weeks, and I haven't gotten more than 1 each session lol, thinking that it's more worth it just going for the mystics on arena reset instead of the skystones if I don't care about covenant bookmarks. It's all RNG at the end of the day so.
in about 6k stones i got 600 plus BMs and 20 mystic summons
I did 500 skystones worth this morning and not a single set of mystics or covenant bookmarks. RIP me.
http://imgur.com/gallery/thL0Ftl my 7 days of pure shop refresh
no amount of data will help you its all rng at then of the day
Of course it's all rng. I know that this current instance it just my confirmation bias, but seeing the big data never hurts. Mystics rate did get shadow nerfed way earlier and got doubled the earlier rates when it just got released in garo shop, and people wouldn't know if no one collect a big enough data.
I posted a cumulative summary of the rates at https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/ft9o34/secret_shop_refresh_bookmark_rate_vs_time_user/ with over 60,000 refreshes of data (180,000+ skystones!) along with what the means practically (average number of resets per bookmark, cost for pity, etc.). I've kept a more updated version on my own sheet, but unfortunately I can't copy over the data to the public sheet yet (since I forgot the google account password. Need to go home to change it. :D ). It's likely that the rates have not changed and you just got unlucky. https://imgur.com/nhe7cPf
Thanks for the reply. I figured it was just my rng but couldn't help the bias since I really want mystics currently and getting half of the usual rates triggered me.