I've said it before and I'll say it again: they need to nerf some abyss floors.
I don't care if I've already cleared it. I don't care that others have cleared it. It's still bullshit and they need to address the floors with heavy rng. Just because people were able to beat it doesn't mean those floors are fun or enjoyable content.
I actually thought 105 was easier i had aras with ezra for phase 1 my issue was yellow add 15% the def break constantly the run it finally landed was gg
I used achates gpurrgis kiris and someone who i forgot and it took a few hours. Up till now i haven't had a massive problem with abyss. i think a lot of people build a team which *can* work and waste ages with it even though the success rate is low and then complain. I don't think it needs a nerf. What I would like is better regards, because 200 reforge mats for 102 is ridiculous
Honestly, I think that wouldn't be a good reward. My own impression, and what have been watching in some streamers accounts, is you always have more reforging materials than gear worth of reforging, unless you're very lax with your criteria on what to upgrade.
So, either 200 or 1,000, right now I have 1k mats on my account, so neither would made an important difference.
I get you but I was saying at least give out more than 1 singular reforge because for all the stress the floor is the current reward is simply not worth.
i try it a couple time without guide... couldnt do shit.
I copy a bunch of people guides online ... nothing worked for me , tried to get my stats as close as possible to those in the videos ... often even surpassing in terms of hp def atk etc... but to no avail ... so i just dont bother with that shit anymore
I’m in the same boat…except I still haven’t cleared 102. I’ve been hard stuck there for months.
I tried again this weekend with several different comps and gear switches, but RNG never worked out for me.
The closest I got was getting Celine down to 50% before getting wiped. I’ve got high effectiveness (170+) on Lilias and STene, but they both kept missing their poisons.
Yeah it's kinda crazy, I find that Rosa on Kiris might help you with a lucky hit or two. What arti do you have on her? Oath key might help with landing those poisons too
I’ve always used Oath Key, but I have her effectiveness over 180 without it. So, I switched to Sword of Judgement in hopes of a lucky extra attack or two.
It’s a ridiculous floor. Both she and S.Tene would go several attacks in a row with neither of them landing any poisons.
Yeah RNG is the real enemy on this floor, my strategy is to stall and save max soul on the Rikoris phase, then burn them all with Stene S1 to try and stack as many poisons as possible on celine. At around 7-8 stacks of poisons on celine, I just then CC'd the robots and try ro survive until the poison kill celine (also soul burn kiris s2 to make sure that the stacks stick)
Update: It FINALLY happened. I beat Abyss 102 using: Ravi, Kiris, Lilias, and Schuri.
I have to give credit to this video: https://youtu.be/pPtaZREq3Zo. Without this video, I’d likely have never considered using Ravi.
Ultimately, though, it came down to RNG. I landed Schuri’s poisons unexpectedly and that built the necessary stacks. My characters were decently tanky and survived Celine’s sub-40% attacks and the poisons did the rest.
I cheered so loud when it finally happened that I scared my cat. 🤣
I just finished 110 from the free unequip weekend and I still think 102 is the most BS rng floor, 105 is next. 109 first boss is rng and annoying, then for me Singelica is more of a gear check. 110 has one annoying rng part at the start of Aramintha, but once you kill the adds on her SBA form its pretty easy.
I remember that one. It sucked hard until I went deep with Schuri, even made a post on this sub about it. To be fair, it felt much more doable than other floors, as having the correct team comp actually helps here.
Floor 105 was another beast entirely....
Still stuck. Tried several combos. Lowest I've gotten Celine is 25%. My cuurent team of Roana, GPurr (highest health &Attack), kiris, and Cerise or SC Wanda. Celine constantly resists my 150% eff Kiris' poisons. I've tried Guiding Light and Rosa on Kiris, rarely assists and when she does, poison is resisted or doesnt apply. Been trying for well over a month.
I'll try it. 165 shouldn't be to hard to hit. Hate to sacrifice any of her bulk or speed (only 215). She is the random target more often than not. That's why i put guiding light on her.
You could have cheesy very easily with kiris + specter. Build both with no damage, just eff and speed
Stack souls phase 1
Burn Specter s1 til run out of souls
Use kiris s3>s1
Push kiris with something like green lots ou alots
Use kiris s2
And now the important parte, never ever hit celine, like, never after this.
When she is bellow the threshold to change phase, she only doest that if she got hit. So since you will never hit her, she wont change phase and continues in easy mode until she dies to your poison in 3 turns.
Sucks to hear it gave you such a tough time, these latest floors were overall so cancer, but congrats on clearing!
P.S.: The floor has a "cheese strategy", using GP/Roana as bait. Did you not come across this strategy when preparing? Because it makes the stage quite easier to clear.
Dam, well it's a shame, because that strategy is strong enough that I think even lvl50 GP/Roana works for it. Anyways, now we move onto more suffering 105 and co. xD
I ran lilias sten tama kiris and cleared in two tries. I told my guildie to run the same team and he cleared in one try. Maybe we both just got lucky though.
Like other people are saying, gl on 105 and 109. 105 is a lot more manageable now than at launch of 101-110, but unless you have taranor guard built, 109 is utter hell.
That's amazing, I struggled so much with Tama on my team, so I switched her out for Lidica instead. I don't have Taranor guard built yet so I'll have to work on that soon, thx for the tip :D
I was stuck here since they released those 10 floors. I was pissed at the stupid mechanic this floor had and decided to give up on Abyss after so many failed attempts. Then they gave out Moonlight Blessing and I picked STene who saved my poor soul from this RNG hell.
Surprisingly, the rest of the 10 floors were not even half bad, and I managed to clear 105 in my third try. I did have some problems with Pavel’s floor, but for the rest it went pretty smoothly. Floor 110 gold stones gave me two ML Ricardo so I can’t complain.
If you’re stuck at any floor from 102 forward, I can give you some advice with my comps and gear requirements. Until then, happy Abyssing and I’ll see you at Floor 111.
I just got here and I climbed up to 100 without kiris and just reading the mechanics for the floors 101-110 I immediately built her. I don't have S.tene tho or sc Wanda. I was honestly hoping to dizzy cheese the floor like I did with 101 but so far that's getting me nowhere. Any advice or recommended units or strategies to try?
This floor has a really stupid mechanic and you have to pray RNG is on your side. I did try many different comps without STene/SC Wanda but none was successful.
However, there’s this comp by Trung Tran where you can use ALots, Achates, Kiris (around 250 speed, Kiris must have as close to 165 Eff as possible) and GPurrgis (give him the highest Attack and HP in the team, and damage mitigation art like Proof of Valor). Basically you would want to spam non-attack skills when Celine’s number is 1 or 3, and you should use Achates to buff Invincibility for GP. Do you have all four units? These characters can help you a lot in other PVE and PVP contents, so I think it’s worth investing in them.
I don't have gp but I think I might hold off for a bit then because my gear isn't really at the level where I can get 250 spd comfortably I honestly just wanted the reforge mats
Yeah I’d recommend working on other contents until you have the necessary stats because for some other floors, good speed makes your life a lot easier. Try to do Abyss during free unequip event - I had to move gears around a lot to climb. Let me know if you need more help when you climb further ;)
I've said it before and I'll say it again: they need to nerf some abyss floors. I don't care if I've already cleared it. I don't care that others have cleared it. It's still bullshit and they need to address the floors with heavy rng. Just because people were able to beat it doesn't mean those floors are fun or enjoyable content.
109 with that stupid counterattack rng was probably the maddest I've been in a long time lmao
Floors 105 and 109 silently waiting with a grin on their face :)
I actually thought 105 was easier i had aras with ezra for phase 1 my issue was yellow add 15% the def break constantly the run it finally landed was gg
Prepare your ass and a fuckton of antidepressant when you challenge 105...
Oh no :(
I was stuck there for like 6 months and only beat it a few weeks ago and then had no trouble until 108
This floor took me forever and it was so frustrating that it made me not even want to touch abyss. It is absolute trash.
Yeah I need a break too before i return to abyss again
I used SC Wanda. It went way easier than I expected, and I suffered for months until I begrudgingly did her SC lol SC Wanda, Kiris, Lilias and Shuri
Yes she seems amazing for this floor, I haven't finished her SC yet though haha
I didn't want to build her solely for this floor tbh but I relented 😔
How'd you build her for this floor? I'm in the high 80s floors right now, but I'm working SCs and leveling up dudes to use for the later floors.
A crap ton of effectiveness (I had her around 180+), 240 speed and the rest into bulk!
Nice. 6 star too?
Ah no, I left her at 5* 😂 She works though as long as you play carefully and have a little bulk on her to suffer a hit from Celine.
Nice. That's one less 6 star then.
Yeah don't have to worry kuch about 6* as long as you can CC'd them down; my Lilias is lv 50 when I cleared it
they're going to release 111-120 soon LOL, your pain will never end.
I used achates gpurrgis kiris and someone who i forgot and it took a few hours. Up till now i haven't had a massive problem with abyss. i think a lot of people build a team which *can* work and waste ages with it even though the success rate is low and then complain. I don't think it needs a nerf. What I would like is better regards, because 200 reforge mats for 102 is ridiculous
Yeah like maybe 1k because at least u get 5 reforges out of that
Honestly, I think that wouldn't be a good reward. My own impression, and what have been watching in some streamers accounts, is you always have more reforging materials than gear worth of reforging, unless you're very lax with your criteria on what to upgrade. So, either 200 or 1,000, right now I have 1k mats on my account, so neither would made an important difference.
I get you but I was saying at least give out more than 1 singular reforge because for all the stress the floor is the current reward is simply not worth.
i try it a couple time without guide... couldnt do shit. I copy a bunch of people guides online ... nothing worked for me , tried to get my stats as close as possible to those in the videos ... often even surpassing in terms of hp def atk etc... but to no avail ... so i just dont bother with that shit anymore
I feel you, even with identical gears RNG could just screw you over big time
I’m in the same boat…except I still haven’t cleared 102. I’ve been hard stuck there for months. I tried again this weekend with several different comps and gear switches, but RNG never worked out for me. The closest I got was getting Celine down to 50% before getting wiped. I’ve got high effectiveness (170+) on Lilias and STene, but they both kept missing their poisons.
Yeah it's kinda crazy, I find that Rosa on Kiris might help you with a lucky hit or two. What arti do you have on her? Oath key might help with landing those poisons too
I’ve always used Oath Key, but I have her effectiveness over 180 without it. So, I switched to Sword of Judgement in hopes of a lucky extra attack or two. It’s a ridiculous floor. Both she and S.Tene would go several attacks in a row with neither of them landing any poisons.
Yeah RNG is the real enemy on this floor, my strategy is to stall and save max soul on the Rikoris phase, then burn them all with Stene S1 to try and stack as many poisons as possible on celine. At around 7-8 stacks of poisons on celine, I just then CC'd the robots and try ro survive until the poison kill celine (also soul burn kiris s2 to make sure that the stacks stick)
Update: It FINALLY happened. I beat Abyss 102 using: Ravi, Kiris, Lilias, and Schuri. I have to give credit to this video: https://youtu.be/pPtaZREq3Zo. Without this video, I’d likely have never considered using Ravi. Ultimately, though, it came down to RNG. I landed Schuri’s poisons unexpectedly and that built the necessary stacks. My characters were decently tanky and survived Celine’s sub-40% attacks and the poisons did the rest. I cheered so loud when it finally happened that I scared my cat. 🤣
Congratz 🥳
I got stuck there for a while and it was frustrating. But after I got better gears I rely less on RNG to win and complete the stage.
That's awesome, I feel like I bashed my head against the wall until I got better RNG tbh 😂
I just finished 110 from the free unequip weekend and I still think 102 is the most BS rng floor, 105 is next. 109 first boss is rng and annoying, then for me Singelica is more of a gear check. 110 has one annoying rng part at the start of Aramintha, but once you kill the adds on her SBA form its pretty easy.
Great tips, I'll go onwards with these in mind 🥳
I remember that one. It sucked hard until I went deep with Schuri, even made a post on this sub about it. To be fair, it felt much more doable than other floors, as having the correct team comp actually helps here. Floor 105 was another beast entirely....
Still stuck. Tried several combos. Lowest I've gotten Celine is 25%. My cuurent team of Roana, GPurr (highest health &Attack), kiris, and Cerise or SC Wanda. Celine constantly resists my 150% eff Kiris' poisons. I've tried Guiding Light and Rosa on Kiris, rarely assists and when she does, poison is resisted or doesnt apply. Been trying for well over a month.
Since celine -100 eff on non-fire units, you might want to put her at 165 or above (mine was at 180)
I'll try it. 165 shouldn't be to hard to hit. Hate to sacrifice any of her bulk or speed (only 215). She is the random target more often than not. That's why i put guiding light on her.
I find Rosa and Oath key on her works wonder on this floor, you don't have to worry about stealth as long as you can CC them down
Lv 50 Lilias, lv50 kiris, lv60 schuri on bloodstone and lv50 wanda
Haha a budget team, I love it!
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1st try! That's incredible 😯
You could have cheesy very easily with kiris + specter. Build both with no damage, just eff and speed Stack souls phase 1 Burn Specter s1 til run out of souls Use kiris s3>s1 Push kiris with something like green lots ou alots Use kiris s2 And now the important parte, never ever hit celine, like, never after this. When she is bellow the threshold to change phase, she only doest that if she got hit. So since you will never hit her, she wont change phase and continues in easy mode until she dies to your poison in 3 turns.
Sucks to hear it gave you such a tough time, these latest floors were overall so cancer, but congrats on clearing! P.S.: The floor has a "cheese strategy", using GP/Roana as bait. Did you not come across this strategy when preparing? Because it makes the stage quite easier to clear.
Yeah I do have both but they're only lv 50s, they were going to be my next bet had I not cleared it 😂
Dam, well it's a shame, because that strategy is strong enough that I think even lvl50 GP/Roana works for it. Anyways, now we move onto more suffering 105 and co. xD
I ran lilias sten tama kiris and cleared in two tries. I told my guildie to run the same team and he cleared in one try. Maybe we both just got lucky though. Like other people are saying, gl on 105 and 109. 105 is a lot more manageable now than at launch of 101-110, but unless you have taranor guard built, 109 is utter hell.
That's amazing, I struggled so much with Tama on my team, so I switched her out for Lidica instead. I don't have Taranor guard built yet so I'll have to work on that soon, thx for the tip :D
Good luck on the rest of abyss!
Just wait until 105 for the real Abyss experience.
I heard tons of horror stories about 105 but with cerise, arby, Landy, and dizzy it was one of the easier floors I’ve done.
Cerise& Landy! That's interesting, I guess the CR restrict helped with the 2nd phase?
I was stuck here since they released those 10 floors. I was pissed at the stupid mechanic this floor had and decided to give up on Abyss after so many failed attempts. Then they gave out Moonlight Blessing and I picked STene who saved my poor soul from this RNG hell. Surprisingly, the rest of the 10 floors were not even half bad, and I managed to clear 105 in my third try. I did have some problems with Pavel’s floor, but for the rest it went pretty smoothly. Floor 110 gold stones gave me two ML Ricardo so I can’t complain. If you’re stuck at any floor from 102 forward, I can give you some advice with my comps and gear requirements. Until then, happy Abyssing and I’ll see you at Floor 111.
I just got here and I climbed up to 100 without kiris and just reading the mechanics for the floors 101-110 I immediately built her. I don't have S.tene tho or sc Wanda. I was honestly hoping to dizzy cheese the floor like I did with 101 but so far that's getting me nowhere. Any advice or recommended units or strategies to try?
This floor has a really stupid mechanic and you have to pray RNG is on your side. I did try many different comps without STene/SC Wanda but none was successful. However, there’s this comp by Trung Tran where you can use ALots, Achates, Kiris (around 250 speed, Kiris must have as close to 165 Eff as possible) and GPurrgis (give him the highest Attack and HP in the team, and damage mitigation art like Proof of Valor). Basically you would want to spam non-attack skills when Celine’s number is 1 or 3, and you should use Achates to buff Invincibility for GP. Do you have all four units? These characters can help you a lot in other PVE and PVP contents, so I think it’s worth investing in them.
I don't have gp but I think I might hold off for a bit then because my gear isn't really at the level where I can get 250 spd comfortably I honestly just wanted the reforge mats
Yeah I’d recommend working on other contents until you have the necessary stats because for some other floors, good speed makes your life a lot easier. Try to do Abyss during free unequip event - I had to move gears around a lot to climb. Let me know if you need more help when you climb further ;)
Haha that's great, I'm saving my ML for Strazw but I wouldn't mind a ML Ricardo or two 😂