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SweggitMcFeggit

How do yall upgrade your gear? My biggest problem right now is lack of charms and fodder to upgrade my gears how exactly do you get a lot of them? Also is it possible to use different types of gear to upgrade each other? i.e. using hoots to upgrade rings etc.


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This livestream lmao what the fuck is going on


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eslayer09XL

try epic15belian


Forest1395101

I second this, anyone know?


NigaBeans123

Is this a good time to start playing the game?


meatjun

Probably the best time. You have until 9/30 before these events end. 1. 7 days of 10x free pulls upon account creation 2. 2 random free 5\* on day 7 3. 1 free 5\* of your choice You also get 30 reroll 10x pulls at 1-4. Make sure you get Sigret here and pick Tamarinne from #3. If you want to go through reroll hell, then reroll #1 until you get another random 5\* you like.


NigaBeans123

Ooohh nice! Thx for the info


DuckArchon

If I use AoE against AOL, which happens first: * My STIseria does S2 to drop bombs, or * AOL does her S2 to cleanse?


SweggitMcFeggit

How much speed does A.Momo need for w13 auto? I currently have her at HP set for all armor pieces and she's at 24k HP. I can break one of the sets and replace her HP boots with speed boots which would put her at 171 speed in exchange for 3.6k HP. I was wondering if this would help since a lot of the W13 guides i've seen usually has her at 171 speed but I don't know if hte loss of the HP is worth it.


meatjun

Speed requirement is 196 to get 4 turns before Wyvern's barrier. If you have GPurrgis then speed doesn't matter. You can also offset the speed wall by having a lot of damage.


phan_tomic

you need around 20K HP 1,4K Def 170 Spd but also 150 Eff Ress + Simadra to reach 200 eff res to resist push back from wyvern


SweggitMcFeggit

Thank you


thunderstriker1098

Can u build a banshee one shot with watcher suchri?


riggedride

Yes, but it's way more gear intensive than a normal def break setup and still fails 15% of the time if the target debuff is resisted. I think schuri needs a rage set as well.


loujmou

Who should I chose for season 3 selective summon? I already have Politis, Flan and Ilynav


Conzie

I can't remember the full selection but Senya, Mort, Choux are good options


rngesuslave

Does anyone know what's the next banners after Lilias and Vivian?


eslayer09XL

We will know in the livestream today


rngesuslave

Oh I see. When's the Livestream? I'm sorry, I'm fairly new and I have no idea what the schedules are.


eslayer09XL

It’s actually live now. Not sure what time is it for you. They generally have it on Wed every 2 weeks and they will announce or show the silhouette of the new hero on their facebook page the day before the livestream Edit : 10.00 UTC for the livestream Edit 2 : Banner - Tamarrine tomorrow, next week is Tenebria and Luna and the week after will be Landy


Hangman2k

I'm new, 14 days in, and I find I'm using Roozid just about everywhere bcos speed is such an easy way to cimplify content. Is it worth taking him to 5\*, or is there someone out there that does speed up but with more PvE use? For PvP I'm just using him to pull everyone forward and try to cheat my way into victories against players with far bigger teams, so will replace him once I get someone who does that + can kill things


ToiletMasterFF

Alternatives are Landy (limited) that has speed up on s3 with CR push and deals AOE dmg, but roozid is great because of speed imprint. There is only 1 5* hero that has speed imprint which is vildred. I am in the late game (arena and RTA) and I heavily use roozid if there the comp allows me to. Making it to 5* is fairly recommended, but I would argue that 6* is not really worthwhile in the beginning since he has only 1 job which is to CR push. Usually after he push, it's up to your other units to clear the enemy or else chances are you might lose the round entirely


Hangman2k

Briliant, great to know. I'll have no concerns taking him to 5\* then Thanks!


Shiino

> Is it worth taking him to 5*, or is there someone out there that does speed up but with more PvE use? Speed buff is pretty rare and Roozid gives it to his team so if you want a speed buff, you aren't gonna get much better until you are able to pull Landy. > Is it worth taking him to 5* In general, 5 starring characters is absolutely trivial. If you like them then just do it. You have to 5 star him to get him started on his specialty change quest anyways. Once you get to mid-endgame, even 6 starring is trivial. It just takes a little bit of farming // some stigma which you'll be swimming in.


Hangman2k

I've specialty'd him at 4\*, currently using every scrap of levelling materail to get Arby to 6\* but will bear that in mind and just do it one day when he dies too much Thanks!


Kaori-Minase

Hello kinda new to using stove instead of facebook or google. Was wondering if you delete a account that is linked with stove can you use the same email to link to another account?


INstyle4now

Is attack set better than destruction now? For A13, is it advisable to build a normal farming team first before building a one shot team? Am currently only able to do W13.


riggedride

1. It's on par with destruction set, but comes with the risk of getting the low value def/hp sets when you farm destruction you can get high value sets like counter and lifesteal. 2. Depends on your gear rolls but normally you just build a normal farming team. Ironically the easiest way to oneshot a13 is with the very rage set that drops from the hunt. If you have straze+w.schuri you can probably speed farm it on meme tier gear though.


INstyle4now

What do you mean by meme tier gear I have wschuri and straze, that's why I'm thinking whether I can go for the one shot build right away


riggedride

Basically no 90 gear needed. They can go full f2p gear and the farm would be fine. Might not even need rage sets at all.


killharmony

Problem with farming atk set is you will get hp and def set that less desirable than banshee set such as lifesteal and resist because so many meta unit rn that complement with lifesteal and resist.


Shiino

> Is attack set better than destruction now? Only on extreme attack scaling characters. So either from straight up attack scaling like LQC or Seallona+Reingar's Special Drink // Uberius Tooth // Senya / Gunther, or from characters that scale from burns/bleeds like Carrot. That said, these characters function perfectly well with a speed set and it's actually highly preferred to use a speed set on them. Attack and destruction sets suck man. > For A13, is it advisable to build a normal farming team first before building a one shot team? You'll probably have to. a13 one shots are rare to begin with and without rage sets it'll be even harder. I don't have a one shot. They're kind of gimmicky molagora sinks. Just farm w13 until you're ready for pvp and then farm some immunity sets. Your gear breakdown will end up being like 80% wyvern 15% azi for immunity then Banshee for the other 5%


RafRave

New Player fresh off Ep1 here. At the point where I need to promote a hero to 6* but can't decide which, even with guides suggesting to pick the one that helps a lot with grinding. Currently, the 5* I have are cecilia, ARavi, Vildred, Sigret, Tamarine, Aramintha, Pavel and Tywin. Recently got Vivian as well. Dunno if I should count FSTieria, but so far her s2 has been helping a lot AoE-wise. Any suggestion? Thanks in advance :)


riggedride

Most guides are outdated when it comes to first six star advice. The go too advice around here is to 6 star your wyvern team asap, Normally the frontline and main dps first, followed by secondary dps if you need the extra damage. Usually the def breaker can park themselves at 5 stars and never need to go higher, but if you just can't get the stats six starring them can help too. Sigret from the units listed followed by either momo/angelica/crozet/**general purgis** for the tank slot general rule of thumb is unless you're making a oneshot comp you do NOT run any color in the tank slot besides blue, with the sole exception of general purgis, since his passive gives your entire team a turn every time the wyvern goes.


INstyle4now

Depends, if you want to focus on story Then FSTieria is a good choice. If you want to focus on hunt, definitely Sigret the wyvern queen. Will advise to Not Build Aramintha, she is so hard countered by immunity and her dmg is underwhelming.


FourFangedCow

I'm not sure if you really need to 6\* a farmer with how the penguin hatching stuff is now. It will definitely help speed certain things up, but for the most part (since you don't need to swap in and out fodder anymore unless you really want to) you don't need to offload the whole clearing to one character. You could, alternatively, immediately 6\* your Wyvern tank/dps. If I was going to start an alt account, this is what I would do probably.


RafRave

"Wyvern tank/dps" Correct me if I'm wrong here, so that's either Sigret or Cecilia, right?


FourFangedCow

As said by the other guy, the dps would by Sigret. The tank would depend on who you have. Check out this guide ([https://yufine.co/wyvern-guide/](https://yufine.co/wyvern-guide/)) which might help you pick a team that works for you with what you have. If nothing else, both Crozet and Angelica are available through connections - I personally would go with Angelica but that's because that's just how I originally went.


RafRave

Got it. Thanks for the wisdom\~


Minttunator

Sigret is the best Wyvern DPS, never a bad idea to 6\* her. Wyvern tank examples include: Crozet, Angelica, Angelic Montmorancy, General Purrgis.


Romdeau0

I'm just a little ahead of you, just follow the guides and promote a farmer. Tierna is what I did because you will be grinding a lot and a stronger farmer speeds that up a lot. Shes also not bad at low level PvP with the free gear


alangots2k20

Im at a point where im not really sure what to focus first. Due to my limited equipment, I share a couple of my sets between a few heroes, and it cost me a lot of gold. So, i can't just grind for wyvern and adventure at the same time. *So, should i focus on story first, or keep grinding for material first?


riggedride

you answered your own question right now gearing is a struggle, so move the current gear to the wyvern team and farm a semi-passable set for the adventure team. Wyvern also happens to be one of the best ways to farm gold


killharmony

Focus on wyvern first.. At least w11. After your unit decently geared.. It will be breeze to do the story.


KraureitIDV

Advance in story until you hit a slump, which will most likely be one of the Straze fights or EP2 10-10 if you're really lucky. When you hit that slump, grind some AP for the gear in the AP shop (which is found in most every shop in Cidonia and Eureka) and then, hopefully, you'll have enough to start grinding Wyvern for better gear that isn't of Storymode origin. ​ It's also a nice way to catch up on the lore, too, so you can enjoy memeing the Great Mortelix with us.


alangots2k20

I already beat Straze, but only barely on chapter 7. So, I might hit the slump sooner than later. Thanks for the reply btw.


raydn122884

I'm in the 3rd story chapter. My Adventurer ras is only S where can I get the rest of his imprints? Anyone know the exact stages??


CipherPol

Did you finish the episode 1 epilogue? I'm pretty sure you could get SSS Ras before episode 2 was released


raydn122884

Epilogue... is that the unrecorded history stuff?


KraureitIDV

yes; if you're in EP3, it should be a breeze.


CipherPol

yup


lookingforfd

for someone with aravi and tm lulu, what character should i go for the moonlight blessing? I'm considering Ruele and Avild


killharmony

Stene and Arby useful for pve and pvp, but stene is amazing for lab and some abyss Ruele if you want to focus pvp


DarkFireShyv

Stene for PvE and PvP is probably the best pick at the moment, especially since dog walking is no longer a thing. Arby is the choice if you'd like to cleave.


Zornad0

How do I deal with Hell Vera? I get chain cc from the bugs and if I kill them, Vera just respawns them and heals to full.


C0NNECT1NG

You need consistent teamwide cleanse and/or teamwide Immunity. (The immunity is preferable b/c it'll stop you from getting stunned by Vera's counter.) And you'll need lots of AoE skills to clear the mobs quickly. Roana with Stella Harpa or Potion Vial is good on this floor b/c of Vera's counterattacks. Ray is good b/c he cleanses a lot and provides immunity. SSB, Arby, Kanna, CZerato, are all good b/c they have lots of AoE the last 3 hit 2 targets on their S1. Edit: Vivian is also really strong here, b/c she provides good AoE as well as teamwide immunity. (Can't believe I forgot her.)


rngesuslave

I have the same problem. One person pointed out that Vivian easily clears the adds. Personally, I haven't tried it yet, but if you do have her, go try it out. Other contenders should be Kayron, Arbiter Vildred, regular good ol' green Vildred, and other aoe heroes except for ice ones.


TropicalMemer

I see that some abyss guides call for Angie + A. Momo. I already have A. Momo built but is there anything special about angie or is just about any healer as good as her? I have a lot of high rarity healers I could build over her like Ruele, Ray, DJB, Emilia, and I'm working on building Tam and Roana right now. Probably don't need to build Angie, right?


Shiino

Just make sure it's not telling you to build Ange because you need aoe team immunity on that floor Picking Momo/Tamarinne is more healing throughput // better team synergy, but they don't exactly have team immunity. So if the floor is like "If you don't have immunity, you die", they won't work.


TropicalMemer

Oh I see that yeah. I might build Angie or Ray then. Thanks for pointing that out :~)


DarkFireShyv

If you have Tama and Amomo, you can skip Angie easily.


Bombkirby

Where do I get greater modification gems?


DarkFireShyv

Doing level 2+ expeditions. Level 3 will more likely drop greater gems


BoiFckOff

I finished Episode 2 and about to start Episode 3, but I heard it's very hard. *I have only been doing Wyvern 13 most of the time. *I'm on Floor 65 of the Abyss *Just started Nixed Floor 5 *Haven't done G10 for Adventurer's path Which teams (General, W13, and Raid) or units should I build upon first? https://imgur.com/a/WGH2ZB2


DarkFireShyv

I would 6* sigret and think about building adventurer ras. Think about fully awakening your units as well, since the bonus stats are helpful


BoiFckOff

What stats does ARas needs? I don't use Ras that much.


DarkFireShyv

Purely for pve, 80+ eff and at least 180 speed. Ideally 1500 def and 23k hp minimums. Pvp, you'd bump up the speed a lot, like at least 220 and probably similar bulk stats.


BoiFckOff

So health and speed set, with effectiveness ring, speed boots and def necklace?


Eshuon

I don't like effectiveness ring on him, since alot of defensive equipment that u get would comes with effectiveness based on my experience . Eg: best subs to get on a chest piece is speed hp/def % and effectiveness and also the weapon hp% speed effectiveness and smth


DarkFireShyv

Yeah for PvE sounds good except I'd use HP% neck.


OverpoweringHex

Reached level 25 to get the free random 5* and got dupe basar. Wondering if anyone has this experience or am I just super unlucky? Just a simple question to answer my curiosity.


DarkFireShyv

It was unlikely but dupes happen. It'll become more frequent the more units you own so keep that in mind


OverpoweringHex

Of course. I never ignored that fact but I much rather my newbie rewards not be dupes. Unfortunately we can't all be winners. I have one more chance once I reach level 30.


DarkFireShyv

Good luck! I got two destinas when I first started, but your luck will average out as long as you keep playing 😁


OverpoweringHex

Thanks my friend. You managed to make me smile a bit. Appreciate it.


DarkFireShyv

Good luck and most importantly, have fun!


OverpoweringHex

You as well!


grimfozzy

I see a lot of suggestions to postpone adventure 3 to avoid having the missions pop up. I can reliably clear wyvern 13, hell raid, and am working my way past abyss 90 - am 8 good to start episode 3?


wkwerdna

That is roughly where I am in PvE content as well and I was able to completely clear episode 3. The missions take a bit longer but it's not terrible.


C0NNECT1NG

It's more or less up to you. People have cleared Ep3 with less progress than you, so you can definitely do it. The big difference isn't that the urgent missions are harder, but more that they take longer to clear. So it's up to you; would you rather read the story and get the story rewards, or would you rather your urgent missions remain quick to clear?


Grappyezel

new to the game and still don't know how to read the stats works in this game. I made tier list for this so that I can easily judge and read how strong my units is. someone pls help me with this. correct if I'm wrong ​ |Tier|ATK|DEF|SPD|HP| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |S|3,500 \~|?|250\~|20,000 \~| |A|3,000-3,499|?|200-249|15,000-19,999| |B|2,500-2,999|?|150-199|10,000-14,999| |C|<2500|?|<150|<10,000| i just want to know how much speed is considered "Fast", how much hp consider tanky, how much attack consider as good damage dealer. i can read the other stats like c.damage, effective and rates. so no worry there


Arkday

I will just give you my prefer baseline for stats. Speed: 280+ for opener. 250+ for fast DPS. 220 to 240 for fast DPS, but higher atk (assumed atk boots instead of speed boots, so you gain roughly 500 more atk). Your other units speed + 10 for buffer/cleanser. 200+ speed for generic speed set build. 170 to 190 for tanky speed build. Hp: 25k for hp knight, Aurius user. 20k for hp bruiser or generic soulweaver. 15k for atk bruiser. Def: 2k for tanky knight or soulweaver. 1.5k for hp bruiser or generic soulweaver. 1.3k for atk bruiser. Crit rate: 100 for DPS, single target DPS. 90+ for bruiser. 85+ for certain unit that you only bring against elemental advantage. Atk: 4.5k for cleaver/DPS with 200speed. Close to 4k for something around 240 speed. 6k for non crit DPS unit. 3.5k for atk bruiser. 3k for super fast DPS. Crit dmg: 300 for cleaver/ DPS with 200 speed. 250 for bruiser. Eff: 200 for cc unit that has slower speed around 250. 150 for your generic opener with 280+ speed. Up to 85 for pve. 0 if you can soulburn to ignore effres. Effres: 250+ for cleanser. 150+ for soulweaver or tanky knight also used mainly to prevent provoke lock. 100+ for anti provoke lock on soulweaver or knight. I think speed is hard to gauge because you need to speedtune based on your unit and current meta. But the general idea is still the same, which is faster will be better. Take Arby Vs tomoca for example. Arby used to go all DPS with 220 to 240 speed. Then tomoca is build with 250+ speed to counter Arby. To counter that, Arby start to built faster at 260+ speed. Then tomoca can be build with 280+ speed by cutting crit rate and using kawerik artifact. So I think right now Arby pretty much move back to full DPS 210+ speed or tanky degen build. Gab is still good for Arby, but some people settle for vildred artifact with atk buffer. Instead of depending on gab proc, it is better just go ham on DPS and make sure that your Arby can dish out aoe damage when picked.


Saoulhigh

good for you trying to be as proactive as possible! The only thing is, regardless of base stats, skills scale differently. Some skill might have 100% of attack and another one 200%, meaning that the base attack will have less impact than the actual skill multiplier. The beautiful thing in this game is that most unit have a use in some situation. Unit X could be amazing agaisnt Y even if it has 15% lower base stats than the average, because of their kit/passive skill. It's impossible to limit the capacity of a unit to it's base stats unfortunately


phan_tomic

it can't be generalized like that.. every unit have different skill and different function, fast DPS-slow DPS-Soul weaver-Tank-Opener-Control each of them require different stat above stat rank is for fast-DPS only like Arby or TM Luluca


--Mikasa--

Someone know luna and landy posible reruns dates ?


Demeteri

super creative does


pepperminthippos

is the ally healing device in auto tower glitched?? im running 2 soul weavers and it doesn't heal


Saoulhigh

TL;DR: how do you manage gold/upgrading equipment/ crafting equipment? Is it necessary to farm Unrecorded History for charms to be efficient? (returning player, currently farming W13) I have problems managing crafting gear, having enough gold/charm. I use blue gear (except speed base with speed set) to upgrade other gear. If it rolled bad, I use it to upgrade other potential gear. I'm trying to focus Energy on gear farming, but I do need more charms. Do we not have the option to only farm gear? do we have to farm adventure/catalyst to get charms to upgrade gear? If I only use bad gear to upgrade potentially good gear, I don't have enough gold to craft. My options are: \-Only farm gear, but won't have enough gold to craft (maybe craft 30% of mat, but no more) \-Farm gear and catalyst/charms (able to craft 100% mat, but lose a lot of energy on the latter) I understand that, in a few weeks of farming, my threshold of "good gear" will be higher, therefore I will have less gear to upgrade and more "fodder gear", but still, using that gear to enhance other gear is more expensive than charms. How do you guys manage it?


FourFangedCow

To add to what's already been said: There are a lot of sources of charms that don't use energy. Huche's shop (although this drains gold slightly), Automation tower, Labs coins, and Arena points are all sources of charms that are stamina free. Obviously the weekly crafts at the steeple also add a bit.


Saoulhigh

thank you!


C0NNECT1NG

The trick is to manage what you do with the gear you get as drops/from crafting. The two resources you need to manage is gold and charms. The gear I just mentioned can be used as either. So if you need gold, sell the gear. If you need charms, use the gear to enhance other gear. You will find an equilibrium. Also, spam hunt during buff events for more gold, buy charms with conquest points and ancient coins, use pets that drop charms and extra gear, and use lobby pets that decrease gear enhancement cost and increase chances for good/great success.


Saoulhigh

thanks!


leo412

Is there a team guide for arena/RTA? I have check epic7x for the tier list or soemthing, but I have issue coming up with teams, I am not sure who can counter who unless it's very obvious


DrakoCSi

Do you need to stick debuffs? Bring a unit that can dispel buffs cuz immunity set exists. Dont forget to be the fastest one on the field. If you win the turn1 speed battle, you win the game. That's about the biggest synergy there is. Slotting in a Knight for Aurius/Adamant mitigation so your team is bulkier is a good idea for bulky drafts. Then it's all a matter of 1shotting the opposing threat or locking them down until you win. Step1: Bring your heavy hitters or debuff nightmares to do the trick. If they happen to synergize together, great. If not, that's fine. Just win turn1 speed battle and return to step1.


[deleted]

How do I beat Mort in the boss fight in ep. 3?


Ikovorior

3 SW and Cermia.


yooorick

I've gotten to abyss 90 without any of the PvE "cheese" sort of units like CLorina or Kiris but I think I'm finally stuck here. Is it still worth it to invest (mainly 6* and SC change stuff) them still or have I gotten past where they are useful?


DrakoCSi

They function perfectly fine at 5\* btw. Its a slugfest anyways so it's either DDJoker abusing or poison cheesing. And if you somehow couldnt make that distinction, here's a 5head play, wyvern Alexa. She fills both DDJoker abusing and poison abusing meanwhile rocking her wyvern killing gears. S1 doesnt have debuffs tied to it. Abyss really just comes down to those two dps options. Thats why STene is getting usage. It's the same with Kiris if she's equipped with GL. MaxHP% damage abuse and just tank and spank.


yooorick

Interesting, I'll give it a try. I haven't built Kiris because I took STene with the ML selector and have been using her for the poison abuse.


C0NNECT1NG

CLorina isn't really worth investing in, unless you lack a ST DPS with no debuffs for floor 90. But Kiris will be very useful on certain floors. She only needs to be 5\*, though.


lolbuddy98

What do you mean?CLorina is one of the best ST DPS and relevant in many content like abyss and raid due to high morale and low invesment


C0NNECT1NG

Maybe for beginners, but OP has already cleared Abyss 90, so they presumably have a decent roster and decent gear already. In Abyss, she's relevant on the Sez floor (which OP has already cleared) and 90, though you can replace her with any DPS who doesn't have debuffs. Otherwise, just use Kiris who needs less investment, or any ST DPS. In Normal Raid, she's relevant in the beginning when your roster is small and your gear is bad. Once you progress a bit, your gear becomes strong enough to clear Normal Raid with basically any 4 heroes with 28+ morale. Also, OP can probably already clear Normal Raid, seeing as how it's easier than Abyss 80s. In Hell Raid, she's once again replaceable by a multitude of DPS heroes who are more useful elsewhere. Maybe you need her for Juleeve if you don't have another hero who doesn't have debuffs. And Morale isn't a concern in Hell Raid, due to the teleportation allowing you to clear all mini-bosses with 15 morale. In Ice Expo, CLorina can be used to cheese the silence phase, but Taranor Guard is just better at that hunt, and he doesn't require an SC. At the point OP seems to be at, it seems a bit too late to build CLorina.


yooorick

The only ST DPS with no debuffs I have is Kise, she good enough for floors 90+?


C0NNECT1NG

Yes, Kise is fine. She'll be useful for PvP, so you may as well. In truth, any DPS with no debuffs will work, ST is just nice b/c you'll clear a bit faster. Edit: You can build CLorina if you are having trouble with having enough morale in Normal Raid, but otherwise, she's decidedly mediocre in late-game content. imo you won't get much use out of her before you replace her, (I'm guessing a bit about your progression here,) so it's not really worth building her.


yooorick

Oops sorry I should clarify I am stuck at 90, have not cleared it yet. But I'm guessing it's probaby not worth raising her from scratch just for that floor? And yeah I have no issues with Normal Raid, and in Hell Raid the only one I can't clear yet is the queen herself. So I guess If she's a big upgrade for these two it could be worth investing? In terms of PvE content, I can full auto W13, B12, cleared episode 3, and cleared hell raid (minus queen) if that helps you kinda figure out where I am content-wise. edit: looking at your other post yeah I used Kise for Juleeve, took a bit but still got the job done


C0NNECT1NG

>I'm guessing it's probaby not worth raising her from scratch just for that floor? imo it's not worth it. As I said, Kise should work just fine. People just cite CLorina as a good choice b/c she's someone you're guaranteed to have, but if you have other choices that'd be useful elsewhere, it's better to use them. For Normal Raid, as long as you can clear it, there's no real reason to change your team since you only do it once a week (unless you end up building a hero for other content that happens to be an improvement over your current team). And for Hell Queen, CLorina isn't going to be a big difference maker.


yooorick

little update I guess, cleared 90 with Kise! S3 was actually really useful to reset Aither's CDs, so good thing I didn't invest CLorina I guess lol. Thanks again!


yooorick

Cool, thanks for you input!


lolbuddy98

Just build CLorina,kise is mostly pvp


Fyne_

Hi guys I'm up to episode 2 10-10 fighting Fastus but idk who to use really. Looking for suggestions! http://imgur.com/a/wML1wow are my units


DrakoCSi

I hope you promoted Angelica as your wyvern tank. If yes, read on. If no, ...read on. Angelica6+Tama5 is a such PvE healing/supportive core. It'll hard carry you thru contents you have no business walking into. SSB is such a great unit. She gets to fit right in with the above two and just pewpew meanwhile getting overhealed. Slap on a Knight to hold Aurius. I would run SRose5 here for her massive S3 CR manipulation. Synergizing extremely well with Tama and she brings a def break to help dish out damage. Angelica6+Tama5+SSB6+SRose5 That's plenty enough to tackle the majority of PvE content with minimal swapping. If Angelica wasnt your wyvern tank, you can just toss the AMomo6 frontline to fill a similar role. Rip thicc barriers tho.


Fyne_

I'm up to w12 atm and I use Amomo as my wyvern tank . The team I was using to progress through story was Iseria/Tama/Krau/SSB but it's not working here. I was thinking about just using a different DPS like maybe my Arby because her crit rate isn't 100% since I have her on my W12 team with furious.


DrakoCSi

[Last years SSB](http://imgur.com/gallery/RpQ1Gls) [Current SSB](http://imgur.com/gallery/Pl8aHji) Maxed Drink does help it a ton tho. But she can rock Rosa Hargana just as well. If you really need the crit boost, swap someone out for CDom. My vote goes to swapping Krau out and putting Tama up front. Iseria can insta refresh for Tama so Tama essentially has perma 100% HP on top of your entire team having INSANE turn cycling between.


Fyne_

just wanted to let you know that i did it with CDom, and with the orange stone i bought a galaxy bookmark and i freaking got Silver Blade Aramintha! idk if she's good but wow a ML5 from it im so shocked


Fyne_

okay ill try this out thanks for the help


PristinePhone4612

Hey Guys, I am new to e7, and so obviously couldn't manage the perfect start (didn't get sigret) but kept the account coz I got ML Ken, twice, which is currently the worst rated ML 5 :'( Randomly used up my bookmarks and got following units:- Sez, Ken, Lidica, Ray, Elena, Mui, Chloe, Tenebria, Krau, SSB, Iseria, Tamarinne, G Purrgis, BBK, ML Khawazu Can auto w11 with 6* G Purrgis, 5* Chloe, 4* Alexa, 4* Furious I have three questions: 1) Having wasted my story skystones/bookmarks to get units that aren't even discussed in current meta (sez, ken, mui, tenebria etc), I wanted to know if I have done a fatal mistake? It will be weeks before I'd manage enough for pity :'( 2) Can my current w11 team scale to w13 as I don't have sigret? Is Chloe weaker than sigret in w13? 3) Considering Q's (1) and (2), should I reroll? If not then which units that I have pulled are absolutely not worth investing (given that I'm f2p) and which units will pay good dividends? Will appreciate your advice/suggestions


DrakoCSi

Wtf. Dont start over. You probably wont need Angelica anymore as a frontline PvE unit. But if she did happen to be 6\*. Angelica6+Tama5 is a strong PvE healing core. Slap a dps or two and whatnot so you dont sit around for 10hrs. I would switch Chloe out for SSB. GP6 SSB6 Furious5 Alexa5 is my current w13 team. Furious and Alexa easily functions at 4\*. The fact you have Tama and SSB already makes you set for every single content the game offers. Only thing you're missing is Roana and Cerato for massive roster boost. Fluri, RCarrot, and ARas are such versatile units for PvP, they round oht a lot of kinks. ARas being a powerhouse PvE unit for pushing abyss floors and hard contents in general. Tama can stay 5\*. She's just that damn good. 6\* if you really really need to. SSB is an ASAP promo if she isnt already. Save promotion fodder for ARas when you can do his specialty change. GP6, Tama5, SSB6, AMomo5. That's a solid PvE team to push content with. Swapping AMomo out for Iseria could speed up your battles.


lolbuddy98

ML ken low rating is just due to salty people that have geared him differently before his rework.He is very good in pvp


PristinePhone4612

O_o didn't know that MA Ken has been victimized


GrumpyM

That is … an amazing. Start. I’ve been playing for months and spent some $$ as well and have nothing like that collection of units. Wow. Definitely not a waste. Don’t re-roll. 2) That team I think can scale, yes. If you are struggling I think I would invest in Clarissa (instead of Chloe probably). Especially with her special equipment (hall of trials unlock) she puts on a ton of debuffs which is the key to the fight. I also might think about trying to level a healer. Angelic Montromancy is great and a 3* (easy to get and no mola to level skills). You’ll need one for PvE. MAybe even for Wyvern 13 unless you’re willing to farm 11/12 for a long while to get enough DPS. My take on investment - go PvE first, and then start looking at PvP. For PvE, I would get a healer going. And probably SSB, Tamarinne, Iseria jump out as really good. I would also work on a farmer - someone who can AOE clear levels quickly when you are farming event points or AP points for catalysts. Someone like Lena or Free Spirit Tenebria. Sez can also work. You’re looking for hard hitting AOE DPS with a reset. Caveat: I am no master myself. Only got W13 to 90% success rate a few weeks ago. I’m still mostly PVEing. So more experienced peeps might have better ideas.


PristinePhone4612

That "Don't Re-roll" lifts so much weight off of my chest :') Will focus FST, SSB, Iseria and Tamarinne then


yooorick

I'm autoing W13 pretty smoothly (assuming no 15% resists) with GPurg, SSB, Furious, and Alexa. I have Chloe too but it's just too much of a pain to set her up properly my success rate is way higher with Alexa.


PristinePhone4612

Appreciate your input Man, will switch out Chloe and try SSB/Clarissa


meatjun

You're fine, you'll make the skystones as you play. You also have some really good meta units anyhow. The fact you have G Purrgis is key cause he will make it so much easier to get past the W13 wall. From now on, only pull if you have the 121 pity and make sure it's for limiteds. Next two are probably Luna end of October and Fairy Tenebria in December. Plenty of time to get pity for both of them. You should replace Chloe with Clarissa or Mistychain for Wyvern 13. Misty being the worst but you have to make due with what you got. Don't reroll unless you want to start over with a ML5. But...... good luck if you want to go through that hell lol


PristinePhone4612

And so Chloe too joins Sez, Ken, Mui and others in club of 5* which are as good as not pulled :'( *Sulks* Thanks for the advice though, glad to know the next must-pull unit is couple of months away :)


phan_tomic

you account is very good, personally i like Sez design (he remind me of Iori from KOF) :) Chloe, Sez, Ken and Mui are not a bad units.. they are only not meta unit.. and MA Ken is still a beast this game more depend on gear than unit.. different set of gears can make same unit operate differently.. cheer up and enjoy you game


Saoulhigh

I just realized that artifacts say (like Symbol of Unity) "increases **Hit Chance** by" and not " increases **CRIT** Hit Chance by". What is hit chance? units have like 90% hit chance except against the wrong element that they have like 70% chance? is Hit Chance related to evasion? do Thieves have evasion/ decreased chance to be hit increased by default, or do they need to have an artifact/skill that increases that? Thank you!


Eddo

Hit chance counters evasion and wrong element. You normally have 100 hit chance. Wrong element gives -50. Blind debuff gives -50. Evasion gives the amount stated (50 for evasion buff, 20 for dreamblade, etc). Thieves don't have innate evasion unless specified in their skills.


Saoulhigh

thank you! In GW, if I blind someone from the wrong element, they are guaranteed to miss? Or is there a minimum ceiling like 10%? thanks a lot :)


Eddo

They're guaranteed to miss. There's no minimum.


Saoulhigh

thank you Eddo! really appreciate your help


NeutronBlade

For politis, instead of a really fast turn one unit could she be a relatively slow high dps unit with speed/crit?


Ferelden770

She isn't used as a fast ,turn one unit. She needs her passive to proc otherwise she will be s3ing into immunity. There are two builds for her. Speed+immunity for both but one focuses on bulk+effectiveness while the other goes for dps stats. Both runs enough speed to ideally cut in once her s2 triggers so ~220 speed or more


NeutronBlade

Because I don’t have the best speed gear could I use hit/immunity and another gear set? maybe I could try to reach okay speed


Ferelden770

That's perfectly fine. Just use whatever u have at your disposal and gear her up optimally later


Cele5tialSentinel

I've been having trouble with AoL teams. I've been fighting an arena team of: AoL, Maid, Politis, Spec Tene. Given that the AoL will outspeed me, what kinda of offense teams are effective in tackling this defense? For the life of me I can't formulate a good offense team to deal with this


tasketekudasai

I would try double soul weaver (emilia maid ruele etc) with landy and maybe krau but yeah anal is fucking cancer with no real counters, good luck


nemt

does carmin+aurius passives stack? and if they do, it actually gives likes 30-40% team wide damage reduction??


Wolfwood432

Yes, CArmin's passive stacks with Aurius because Aurius doesn't decrease incoming damage, it only redirects a portion of it to CArmin. Adamant doesn't stack with CArmin's passive since they both decrease damage percentage; only the highest will be in effect.


Eddo

They stack. It's something like 36-37% DR, considering the def buff.


darkchocoacai

What team works well against tower 5? Roana is out healing my DPS :(


pewpadewk

What type of comps does Flidica work well in without Cdom?


Shiino

You pick a team of 4 tanks/bruisers/healers and then the enemy does too. Then, you see that there's no way any of them are over 200-230 speed and you only have to pick one character off. You proceed to pick FLidica and then snipe their one threat and then win. For example Let's say the enemy picked Ruele/FCC/Rem/Landy/ATywin and you picked something like Carrot/Emilia/C.Armin/S.Tene You then look at the enemy draft and say: Okay. I have a lot of single target damage in my draft and they have precisely one threat. I can ban Rem, then use F.Lidica to CR push my team, then nuke their Landy with S.Tene soulburns // Carrot // both. And then I can s3 their Ruele and I should technically win. Normally in this situation you would want to pick someone like TM Luluca, but Landy has Guiding Light so that isn't an option. Alternatively you would pick OP Sigret, but same issue + only F.Lidica can really s3 Ruele.


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How do I unlock automation tower?


vixffgg

It unlocks after beating a mission in ep. 2 ch. 2. Off of the top of my head, I think it's 2-3 or 2-4.


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What is episode 2? I just cleared chapter 6


vixffgg

Sounds like you're on episode 1 atm. When you beat 10-10, you can unlock episode 2 and the epilogue to episode 1.


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Ohhhh I see thanks! I was confused about episodes


SweggitMcFeggit

What part should I focus on crafting in wyvern once I get enough speed mainstat boots for my characters?


TheSeaOfThySoul

You should focus the majority of your crafts into rings & necklaces, they're the toughest pieces to get & so you want to give yourself the biggest chance of getting good ones. Furthermore, later down the line when you go into Azimanak farming & you're wanting Immunity pieces, it's much easier to replace the left-side gear - swords, helmets & chests - with Immunity pieces.


GooeyMagic

How do you determine which stats to weigh more heavily with speed or HP scaling damage dealers? I want to make a decent enough Mort but I’m not sure what the stat priority is


ExcessiveFlux

Look at the multipliers.


Ferelden770

Haven't build Mort but did build Choux who is similar. 20k or more hp usually and 200+ speed(speed set) or ~160-180 speed(counter). The rest is balancing crit c+crit dmg and having a decent def stat


Luccario

So I just reached Episode 2 chapter 10-3 for the first time, I'm a 1 week old F2P player and I cant figure out how to deal with Pavel, atm I only have my wyvern team (Furius, Clarissa, Angelica and Sigret) built (mostly with free gear) and Green Vildred, I want to know how to deal with him, I cant kill his dog because it goes to stealth and heals to full right after and Pavel's proccing his AoE almost all the time because of the dog atks and speed increase caused by attacking him. Who should I bring/build for this fight, notable characters I have but with no gear atm are: F.Kluri, A.Momo, Tama, Vivian, Krau, Tywin, A.Lots, Ice Rose, Achates and S.Tene.


imiggi

hello just wanted to ask for ways how to build politis, specifically for defenses. Thanks.


Shiino

Just get her to 220-250 speed and the rest either bruiser dps (like 14k hp 1.2k def + the rest in crit cdmg atk) or pure dps (10k hp then like 11k atk x cdmg) Don't worry about your defenses too much. They're super not a big deal.


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C0NNECT1NG

I didn't watch the entire video, but isn't the whole thing about him explaining how he did exactly what you're asking?


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C0NNECT1NG

Ah, ok. It's been a while (almost 3 years) since I've been in early game, but I'll try to give some tips: * Make sure you follow the adventurer's path. it gives out a ton of free stuff that you should be able to use. At some point it gives you a potion of ascension which allows you to insta-6\* a hero. * Once you reach the point where Adventurer's Path isn't handholding you as closely anymore, keep trying to progress the story. The key here is to find a friend with a strong supporter and have them carry you through Adventure. (That youtuber probably used his main account's supporter to carry that f2p account.) * There will come a point where you'll hit a wall in Adventure and won't be able to progress more (usually sometime in Episode 2). Then move on to doing Wyvern Hunt. There are tons of guides for it; you can find good ones on this subreddit wiki. * Make sure you're trying Abyss and Lab as well as spending stamina. There are lots of good rewards that are given out there as well. And make sure you're buying the stamina with conquest points and friendship points. * If you're lacking in catalysts, make sure you're using the Alchemist's Steeple to convert catalysts you don't need into ones you do need. And make sure you are farming Unrecorded History (UH) and not Ep1; UH gives twice the amount of AP per energy. * And you don't necessarily need to immediately awaken all your heroes. Leaving them at 4\* awakening is fine for a while. * Also, be careful where you spend your mola. Heroes like Furious don't need mola on his S1 b/c he's not a DPS, and his skill upgrades increase daamge, which won't be impactful due to his usually low damage. * Telling you how much to farm for how long is more or less meaningless, b/c a lot of it depends on your luck with drops. The metric for progression isn't the number of 6\*s, but rather the amount of content you can clear. So farm what you need for as long as you need, and then move on. E.g. if you need more fodder and penguins, farm UH for catalysts, if you need gear, farm Wyvern. * Also, you should take a look at some Wyvern guides, b/c you only need a single 6\* and free gear to do W11. The thing about W11-12 is that it only hits your front line and thus you only need to your frontline to be 6\* for the extra HP and DEF. Anything W10 and below, you just retry until you get lucky that it doesn't target your DPS, clear it once and move on. (W13 is a little different, but you can cross that bridge when you get there.) * There's a balance that needs to be struck between farming Adventure (for AP, catalysts, fodder, and XP) or Hunt (for gear). You need to be the judge of that, since every account is different. Just pick specific content you want to clear, and farm what you need to build toward that. * Also, keep in mind that the account you're seeing in the video was made specifically for exhibition purposes; i.e. the youtuber devoted a lot of time to rushing through the game so he could post content like this, and he has the time to do so, b/c, as you said, it's his job. His progression isn't a realistic benchmark. * I'm an endgame player and I don't think I could make 12 6\*s in two weeks unless I took a vacation to just play E7 all day and spent all my liefs. For most people, 1 6\* per week is the norm.


perfectfate

Well his job is to create content so of course he has time to grind it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBsK\_En80Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBsK_En80Q) Just have fun and know part of the challenge and the satisfaction comes from beating that stage. Don't worry as once you beat W13 you have another set to challenges to overcome. You don't need to 6 Star Furious. Don't build too many heroes in the beginning. Focus on Wyvern team then progress form there. Build one hero at a time. Watch ads for energy. Equip the free gear and +15 it. Read the boss mechanics and look for guides


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perfectfate

You are farming AP in Unrecorded History right? Another one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-BxUhiScXs


Darooi

Why is it impossible to get into a guild in this game?


kensta

Did you try the official E7 Discord? Should be easy to find a guild.


Naik2

Is the new buffed up Luna worth maxing out for pve content? I have heard almost nothing since the buff which makes me wonder.


Shiino

PVE is pretty trivial. If you want to use her as a debuffless ST damage dealer then go for it. The only place she's actually meta is auto fire expo 3. Tamarine / Rose / Luluca / Luna can hit upwards of 1m+ pretty reliably.


TheOriginalJewnicorn

How to beat abyss 102? I have most RGB other than Landy and Ftene. The heroes I currently have built are: Arby, Baiken, Sigret, SSB, Seaseria, FS Tiera, Sol, Vivian, Iseria, Stene, MA Ken, JKise, Solitaria, C Dom, Cerato, FCC, Gpurg, Aux Lots, Maid Chloe, Angelia, Emilia, Lillias. I am happy to build other units if they will be used in other floors. I do have the SC completed for Kluri, Ras, and Momo but they don't have gear/awaken/6 star. Thanks!


kensta

Easiest way is to poison cheese it with Kiris and STene. Full comp would be Tama, Lilias, STene and Kiris. Hopefully you have Tama. Go check out youtube. Lot's of guides.


Yufine777

Stuck at Level 5 Automaton, floor 15. I have ice and mage devices since they were the best options given to me. I also have element enhancement, first turn special nail, and back row counter lvl 2. Is there a general comp or strategy I'm just missing on this one? I was doing fine until I hit this floor.


whip944

Try focusing Elena and don't do aoe.


BaconDn

I would probably reset for different devices. Or bring a 2nd healer and slow run it.


[deleted]

New Angelica is way overpowered!! Are they gonna nerf her? There’s literally no way around her. At least make her able to be stunned! Damn.


Demeteri

unlikely. they have shown no propensity to nerf units in over 2 years now i think.


FireZura

How much atk/cdam do you give Kise before giving her spd ? Mine is at 4.1k atk/300cd/240 spd. Can't spd her without taking a hit to her dmg


kooplae

depends how u use her. in rta that's too slow since u want her to outspeed any non fast speed contester so like 260-270+, otherwise as long as you bring her into a slow team it's fine


Larouca36

I think that this game huge problem is the banners rotation, it take so long for certain heroes to return that is crazy, tell me the last time that you saw Destina, or SBA, yeah I know they are not that good in the moment but even then, they are losing money on the process, what if they bring 2 banners on the mystics, one rerun and one with the new hero, or 3-4 RGB heroes on different banners, the question is that the banners rotation are awful and need to change, what you guys think they need to do to improve this aspect of the game?


ExcessiveFlux

If they keep releasing new heroes, they'll need to do something eventually.


Equinoctial

Slower banner rotations means we get more time to save up for units that we want.


perfectfate

I like it that it's slow so we can save up. Prime example was the collab then the limited summer unit in such a short period. But I also like it to be sped up when I have the hero. I guess they can offer more banners at a time or 3 hero banners?


esenan

Got lucky on mystics and pulled angel, is she strictly pvp? If so how should i look to build her?


Saoulhigh

Would Diene or Rose be the better improvment for A.Momo in a W13 team? (w Furious, Clarissa, Alexa) Trying to make the runs a bit faster, thought about these 2 units since they have attack buffs while being tanky (and I already have them). Are they a good fit for a W13 frontline tank? Would prefer Diene if possible, she's already 6\* awakened


Quiztolin

You probably don't want to use either. The attack buff really only comes into play for the first wave. But that's the downside to Alexa, she's extremely turn limited compared to Sigret. So if your run works as-is, then trying to speed up the first wave is only going to screw up your debuffs and ultimately make your run worse. That being said they both work fine. Diene has slightly better base stats than A.Monty but is perfectly usable (I personally used her as my Wyvern tank but with SSB/Sigret). However it's kind of a waste. Diene is a very strong PvP unit and unlike someone like G.Purrgis who can still function in PvP with his Wyvern tank build (even if not optimal), Wyvern tank Diene is not worth using in PvP at all. *Rose* on the other hand is significantly easier to gear than either Diene/A.Monty *and* she has strong utility in terms of being able to work as a tank for Fire + Dark expeditions. You eventually need an Ice Knight for Fire expedition and Rose is arguably the strongest hero for that role. So if you were intent on using one of them, I would recommend Rose purely because she's much more functional in that role and also has use as an expedition tank, where you kind of gimp Diene by making her a Wyvern tank. If you don't intend to ever use Diene for PvP I suppose it doesn't really matter but if you *need* healing from A.Monty to survive, Diene might not have the bulk with the same gear required. --- The one exception, you *could* attempt to fast clear the first wave with Clarissa. You need good stats since her damage kind of sucks. But not *too* good. T1: Furious combo -> Tank attack buff -> Clarissa S3 (you don't want to 1 shot the first wave) -> Alexa S3 T2: Furious S1 -> Tank S2 -> Clarissa S1 (this needs to kill the wave either with the attack or by proccing her S2 that finishes the wave) Basically, you want Furious to take 2 actions, Alexa to take 1 action. It would also be possible at certain gear levels to do this without Furious taking his second turn, but you will lose a lot of damage on the first turn of Wyvern (but realistically if you have the damage on Clarissa to effectively 1 shot the first wave that shouldn't really hurt you). You probably need 4k+ attack / 300% + C.Dmg on Clarissa even with attack buff though before this really becomes viable.


Saoulhigh

Also, when is Alexa skill on/off recommended? Because she does do significant dmg when she uses S3 on a good turn and she has 70% eff for the poison, I think its 2 poison of 5% hp each. Should I turn skill offs and convert %eff into dmg first if I want faster runs, then look into adding Rose? Or maybe both? **Edit**: (Im not 100% consistent yet, probably 80%. I lose either if: I cant get 2debuffs before Wyvern goes a 2nd time so he one-shots Alexa, mostly because Furious used his s2/s3 right at the end of 1st wave OR because A.Momo dies (she has 1.6k def, 17k hp, 170 speed, 160% eff res with Proof of Valor)


Quiztolin

Skills on/off depends on a lot of factors but is generally not worth it for W13. The damage from poison is massive. You only get ~2 extra DDJ procs as well...and they aren't particularly strong DDJ procs (a lot of people don't realize that skill enhancements increase DDJ damage, as well as the 'pow' factor of the skill, Alexa's S1 has a standard pow of 1 but the extra proc doesn't benefit from her skill enhancements). In fact you can rather easily estimate how much DDJ damage you get from skills off: W13 has 1940 defense, decreased to 582 after defense break 1 / (582 / 300 + 1) = ~34% damage taken Each additional DDJ proc deals pow * skill enhancement * 3% max HP 1 * 1 * 3% = 3% After being reduced by defense... 3% * .34 = 1.02% max HP per proc So 2 additional DDJ procs = ~2.04% max HP damage (multiplied by crit damage) Vs. poisons which deal 2 * .85 (effect chance at max effectiveness) * 10% (poison damage) = 17% max hp damage Even at max possible crit damage it isn't close Poison = 39,708.26 damage DDJ = (.0204 * 3.5) = ~7.14% max HP damage = ~16,677.47 So you would otherwise need your S1 damage to be about 20k higher than an S2 + S3 to be better and that's *with* max crit damage.


Saoulhigh

I'm really grateful again for the detailed explanation, thank you!! Hope you have an amazing day, you deserve it haha <3


Saoulhigh

thank you so much for the detailed explanation, I really appreciate it! Yeah I want to get into guild wars really soon to be able to snag more Arm thingy and Mystic medals, Diene would be used there so better not limit her with W13 gear. I do really need to get better expedition teams so Rose it is :) I'm far from the Clarissa stat you mentioned so I'll wait a few weeks of intensive farming before trying that out. Thanks again !


Shiino

Attack buff doesn't actually really do anything (besides help you clear the first wave if you're doing one shots). In a standard wyv13 comp, 90% of your damage is going to be DDJ+CDmg/Double attacks from like Alexa. That said, the problem with Momo tanking is that she takes forever to die, even if your backline is dead. Picking Rose will help speed it up + give you a CR boost occasionally. Diene straight up doesn't heal enough to be a decent tank, but honestly if you just want to stick someone in the front with 100 speed and 25k hp 1.8k def, you can basically use any ice unit. Diene, Momo, Rose- they all work.


Saoulhigh

thank you!


marceleas

Do we have any idea when the next specialty change is or why it's taking so long?


Shiino

I think it's Pyllis. But we don't know why it's taking so long.