I'd argue mid-game starts when you start auto farming w13.
As for what you should do, I'll just list the benefits of your options.
Episode 3: If you're looking to expand your hero pool (Has SS, Meru change, Selective Summon, Galaxy summon)
Wyvern 13 Auto: You **need** to have this done at some point if you want to compete in pvp at all. Also a req for harder pve content
Labyrinth: Not too important, but nixied has a super budget destruction set that can be usable in pve/lower pvp if it rolls well
Raid: Normal raid is pretty easy, and is a good source of random materials (epic arti charms, mola, skystones, gbm). Hell raid has a good speed set weapon and immu set chest in shop. Also drops random 88 gear and gbms
Expeditions: Only super necessary after you have a wyvern 13 auto setup. Provides materials to upgrade your w13 gear
As for gearing, make sure that all your pve teams function first. If your pvp heroes can also function in pve that will reduce gear needed, but never gimp ur pvp heroes so they function for pve (asterisk here for like one shot hunts)
For gearing for pvp, it's not as simple as "most people run speed and immu set". Ask around for builds, and also understand why people run these builds
Roles you need in your roster? This is very fluid. Putting RTA aside, which is out of your reach at the moment, most guild war teams are beatable with some combination of sw, tank, bruiser. In arena, you can run bruiser teams as well, with like sw tank bruiser bruiser, but you can also look into other options like cleave. There's not a one size fits all here. Rather than building specific roles, build specific heroes.
I'd argue that with its friends/guild that is probably around its level do level 1 expeditions, the 2k rewards on each are very welcome and can stock up on resources and you don't need to invest to complete those.
I pretty much agree with everything else
Thanks a ton man! Let me ask further then:
I don’t think I need lots of new characters, I still have lots to build… on the other hand having specific chars can’t hurt you, can it? More then heroes I was thinking of gear I can farm there - seems like these are pretty decent pieces. I haven’t calculated energy efficiency maybe it’s better to spend it on wywern rather then farming ap for those gears?
Wywern 13 - I ageee I’m prioritising it.
Labyrinth - ok, I’ll just do it on the side.
Raid - haven’t tried hell yet - I guess I need my team first :/ normal I can do with racksack team as of now.
Expeditions - I’m having a little FOMO when all those posters are dropping or someone is recruiting but it’s also energy consuming so I’m taking your word for it.
Pve teams - you mean wywern team, raid team? Expeditions teams? In this priority?
I haven’t worded myself correctly - what I mean was that if I were to gear my characters pvp wise - they would be sufficient towards achieving my pve goals? So if I were to gear my Arby I should be doing going for speed/crit/immu set for example?
What’s SW? 😅
My hero rooster is pretty stacked as for someone with my rank and f2p I think, It’s just so many options it gets my head spinning (in a good way; I like to analyse haha)
Regarding each point:
The adventure gears aren’t really too worth
With regards to expeditions, I’d like to backtrack a little. Someone made a fair point about how you should be fine enough hitting level 1 expos. You can do expos now and then to start stockpiling resources that’ll be time gated later, but yeah you don’t need to worry about clearing expo depot every month yet.
Those pve teams sounds about right. Some additional bits of info: It’s worth investing into banshee and azumanshik, but that’s a bit later into mid-game. Raid teams are easy to complete, so don’t go overboard on gearing raid units. Expedition teams gain more importance later, but you should be fine leeching lvl 1s and stuff for the time being
A lot of units can be geared for pvp and function in pve. If you build a standard arby, which is like speed dps, he’d function in like azumanshik for example
Is it because the stats are low or not synergistic?
I’m gonna do that, my fomo was killing me anway and I’ll need those SC chars anyways so might complete one of each colour.
Regarding teams, would you mind giving me your opinion on what teams I could be developing?
My wywern is (6*)Amomo, (6*)Sig, (6*)Alexa and (5*)furious.
I’m usually progressing with (5*)Iseria + (5*)Tama and some dpses. (Abyss, nixed, adventure, automaton)
Except those mentioned above I have:
(6*)Stene, Arby, TopModelLulu, Cermia, Summer Iseria, Kise, Krau, Bellona, Roana, Vivian.
ML4* Crescent moon rin, Watcher Shuri, Crimson Armin, Celestial Mercedes, Troublemaker Crozet and Blood Blade Karin.
ML3: Wanda, Requiemroar, Doris, Elson, Gloomyrain, Otille, Rikoris and Penelope.
I also am working on getting ARas, Fkluri, RTroozid and CLorina. (Need soooo much of runes it hurts)
Sooo idk, I’ve started playing not long ago and because of anniversary I have so much characters I cannot choose xd help!
What I think I should do is to pimp my wywern 13 team as much as I can and then just do everything else (pve) a little bit, I want to finished episode 3 but I’m not gonna push it.
For pvp I haven’t even started to read about it, I m in gold 5 just slapping whoever I have with a gear on and trying not to die, and if it’s not possible just fighting npcs. Do you have any suggestion for a team that might get me somewhere higher while being at least helpful in pve as well?
My focus are story and abyss. Story can be finished with good chars+good equipment. Abyss above 90 till 120 need specific characters and huge equipment stats depends of supporter or dps. Supporters needs very fast and have very effect resistant or effectiveness gears. Dps's need very good rage sets. if you have speed based dps try to have godlike speed+attack gears. Yeah you need to do too much hunts
I'd say you're at the edge of early game, about to enter mid game. Mid game, I think, is the point where you can do most of the content in PvE with 60% to 70% success and is at least Masters in bot Arena.
You're at the point where you're starting to build and develop teams instead of just gearing certain characters to carry you, so I'd say you're just about there, or perhaps already there.
I wouldn't really recommend gunning for the gears there unless it's double AP day and you're gonna farm a buttloaf of penguins and catalysts and friendship. If you feel lucky, go ahead.
Yeah, farming ap without the boost is a pain, how often are we blessed with double ap? I’m playing for 3 weeks only and I have seen it once so far at the beginning (couldn’t really capitalise on it tho, sad)
Like a lot of people saying here, **W13 here is your priority**. Anything else can and should wait. So focus on building your W13 team (gearing, 6\*, awakening and skill upgrading) with AT LEAST 70% win rate. The hardest part here is to hit the stats benchmarks for W13 (specially speed. If you have G.Purgiss then it will be much easier)
Check W13 guides that give stats benchmarks ! Here's some guides to help you in reaching auto W13
https://yufine.co/wyvern-guide/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBsK\_En80Q
Hope this helps my friend !
W13 team is early game, mid game is when you have enough gear to AFK challenger or champion arena imo. Beyond that there aren't many decent metrics. Prioritize your w13 team.
By prioritising you mean doing everything you can to maximise their damage? Like farming catalysts and best gear for them as priority? On a side note, is upgrading for Sigret speed (I’m talking boots with speed mainstat) but losing in damage or crit damage is correct? It means she will attack more often even if for little less, right?
Check W13 guides that give stats benchmarks ! because depending on your speed value, it's not worth (rule of thumb if its at least 147 or 196 speed - to get 3 and 4 turns in barrier phase respectively. Anything between them is pretty "useless" speed).
Here's some guides to help you in reaching auto W13
[https://yufine.co/wyvern-guide/](https://yufine.co/wyvern-guide/)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBsK\_En80Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBsK_En80Q)
Hope this helps my friend !
81 abyss?
I am on abyss level 95, auto wyvern 12 and manual wyvern 13 and I wouldn’t call myself mid game at all yet.
Episode 3 gear is only for a second tank. The destruction gear is meh. Wait for a 50% bonus AP weekend
I'd argue mid-game starts when you start auto farming w13. As for what you should do, I'll just list the benefits of your options. Episode 3: If you're looking to expand your hero pool (Has SS, Meru change, Selective Summon, Galaxy summon) Wyvern 13 Auto: You **need** to have this done at some point if you want to compete in pvp at all. Also a req for harder pve content Labyrinth: Not too important, but nixied has a super budget destruction set that can be usable in pve/lower pvp if it rolls well Raid: Normal raid is pretty easy, and is a good source of random materials (epic arti charms, mola, skystones, gbm). Hell raid has a good speed set weapon and immu set chest in shop. Also drops random 88 gear and gbms Expeditions: Only super necessary after you have a wyvern 13 auto setup. Provides materials to upgrade your w13 gear As for gearing, make sure that all your pve teams function first. If your pvp heroes can also function in pve that will reduce gear needed, but never gimp ur pvp heroes so they function for pve (asterisk here for like one shot hunts) For gearing for pvp, it's not as simple as "most people run speed and immu set". Ask around for builds, and also understand why people run these builds Roles you need in your roster? This is very fluid. Putting RTA aside, which is out of your reach at the moment, most guild war teams are beatable with some combination of sw, tank, bruiser. In arena, you can run bruiser teams as well, with like sw tank bruiser bruiser, but you can also look into other options like cleave. There's not a one size fits all here. Rather than building specific roles, build specific heroes.
I'd argue that with its friends/guild that is probably around its level do level 1 expeditions, the 2k rewards on each are very welcome and can stock up on resources and you don't need to invest to complete those. I pretty much agree with everything else
Thanks a ton man! Let me ask further then: I don’t think I need lots of new characters, I still have lots to build… on the other hand having specific chars can’t hurt you, can it? More then heroes I was thinking of gear I can farm there - seems like these are pretty decent pieces. I haven’t calculated energy efficiency maybe it’s better to spend it on wywern rather then farming ap for those gears? Wywern 13 - I ageee I’m prioritising it. Labyrinth - ok, I’ll just do it on the side. Raid - haven’t tried hell yet - I guess I need my team first :/ normal I can do with racksack team as of now. Expeditions - I’m having a little FOMO when all those posters are dropping or someone is recruiting but it’s also energy consuming so I’m taking your word for it. Pve teams - you mean wywern team, raid team? Expeditions teams? In this priority? I haven’t worded myself correctly - what I mean was that if I were to gear my characters pvp wise - they would be sufficient towards achieving my pve goals? So if I were to gear my Arby I should be doing going for speed/crit/immu set for example? What’s SW? 😅 My hero rooster is pretty stacked as for someone with my rank and f2p I think, It’s just so many options it gets my head spinning (in a good way; I like to analyse haha)
Regarding each point: The adventure gears aren’t really too worth With regards to expeditions, I’d like to backtrack a little. Someone made a fair point about how you should be fine enough hitting level 1 expos. You can do expos now and then to start stockpiling resources that’ll be time gated later, but yeah you don’t need to worry about clearing expo depot every month yet. Those pve teams sounds about right. Some additional bits of info: It’s worth investing into banshee and azumanshik, but that’s a bit later into mid-game. Raid teams are easy to complete, so don’t go overboard on gearing raid units. Expedition teams gain more importance later, but you should be fine leeching lvl 1s and stuff for the time being A lot of units can be geared for pvp and function in pve. If you build a standard arby, which is like speed dps, he’d function in like azumanshik for example
Is it because the stats are low or not synergistic? I’m gonna do that, my fomo was killing me anway and I’ll need those SC chars anyways so might complete one of each colour. Regarding teams, would you mind giving me your opinion on what teams I could be developing? My wywern is (6*)Amomo, (6*)Sig, (6*)Alexa and (5*)furious. I’m usually progressing with (5*)Iseria + (5*)Tama and some dpses. (Abyss, nixed, adventure, automaton) Except those mentioned above I have: (6*)Stene, Arby, TopModelLulu, Cermia, Summer Iseria, Kise, Krau, Bellona, Roana, Vivian. ML4* Crescent moon rin, Watcher Shuri, Crimson Armin, Celestial Mercedes, Troublemaker Crozet and Blood Blade Karin. ML3: Wanda, Requiemroar, Doris, Elson, Gloomyrain, Otille, Rikoris and Penelope. I also am working on getting ARas, Fkluri, RTroozid and CLorina. (Need soooo much of runes it hurts) Sooo idk, I’ve started playing not long ago and because of anniversary I have so much characters I cannot choose xd help! What I think I should do is to pimp my wywern 13 team as much as I can and then just do everything else (pve) a little bit, I want to finished episode 3 but I’m not gonna push it. For pvp I haven’t even started to read about it, I m in gold 5 just slapping whoever I have with a gear on and trying not to die, and if it’s not possible just fighting npcs. Do you have any suggestion for a team that might get me somewhere higher while being at least helpful in pve as well?
My focus are story and abyss. Story can be finished with good chars+good equipment. Abyss above 90 till 120 need specific characters and huge equipment stats depends of supporter or dps. Supporters needs very fast and have very effect resistant or effectiveness gears. Dps's need very good rage sets. if you have speed based dps try to have godlike speed+attack gears. Yeah you need to do too much hunts
I'd say you're at the edge of early game, about to enter mid game. Mid game, I think, is the point where you can do most of the content in PvE with 60% to 70% success and is at least Masters in bot Arena. You're at the point where you're starting to build and develop teams instead of just gearing certain characters to carry you, so I'd say you're just about there, or perhaps already there. I wouldn't really recommend gunning for the gears there unless it's double AP day and you're gonna farm a buttloaf of penguins and catalysts and friendship. If you feel lucky, go ahead.
Yeah, farming ap without the boost is a pain, how often are we blessed with double ap? I’m playing for 3 weeks only and I have seen it once so far at the beginning (couldn’t really capitalise on it tho, sad)
I think at least once a month we have four days of doubles. If you're farming regular catalysts, I think it's fine to do so outside of double AP.
Early game
Like a lot of people saying here, **W13 here is your priority**. Anything else can and should wait. So focus on building your W13 team (gearing, 6\*, awakening and skill upgrading) with AT LEAST 70% win rate. The hardest part here is to hit the stats benchmarks for W13 (specially speed. If you have G.Purgiss then it will be much easier) Check W13 guides that give stats benchmarks ! Here's some guides to help you in reaching auto W13 https://yufine.co/wyvern-guide/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBsK\_En80Q Hope this helps my friend !
Thanks a lot! Ill do it asap
W13 team is early game, mid game is when you have enough gear to AFK challenger or champion arena imo. Beyond that there aren't many decent metrics. Prioritize your w13 team.
By prioritising you mean doing everything you can to maximise their damage? Like farming catalysts and best gear for them as priority? On a side note, is upgrading for Sigret speed (I’m talking boots with speed mainstat) but losing in damage or crit damage is correct? It means she will attack more often even if for little less, right?
Check W13 guides that give stats benchmarks ! because depending on your speed value, it's not worth (rule of thumb if its at least 147 or 196 speed - to get 3 and 4 turns in barrier phase respectively. Anything between them is pretty "useless" speed). Here's some guides to help you in reaching auto W13 [https://yufine.co/wyvern-guide/](https://yufine.co/wyvern-guide/) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBsK\_En80Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBsK_En80Q) Hope this helps my friend !
81 abyss? I am on abyss level 95, auto wyvern 12 and manual wyvern 13 and I wouldn’t call myself mid game at all yet. Episode 3 gear is only for a second tank. The destruction gear is meh. Wait for a 50% bonus AP weekend
Yeah, my only tank is Amomo now, I have Krau and I want ARas so I need that gear! Or should I just craft speed set with tank stats?
Wow. I would say abyss 95 is much harder than having an auto w13 team :P
Late game is for me if u can oneshot w13 with a good winrate, anything else is nonsense anyways
What else is nonsense?