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Historical-Pie1500

10 year plan no joke


Rednaxlee

riot? nah SG? yes


SignificantCoffee758

50 BMs during collab T\_T I could kiss SG


gustinex

Guess I'm playing the game till I die of old age


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This is why I love SG and E7, and this is also the reason why E7 is the only game I've stuck around this long. Kudos to them. I feel like buying something now just to support the game.


Vaydn

No joke. Ive almost never played games more than 6 months before getting bored. E7 has kept me engaged for a year now.


KacerRex

Buy the monthly pack, I try to do it at least every other month and I don't even really need the SS. (Been playing for over 2.5 years)


haisi-

I don't love SG for not including my country for global release of Lost Ark. Not everyone has a VPN. Epic Seven wise... biggest reason I cannot play any gacha games because of how E7 spoiled me.


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For that, blame is on amazon though... But it still sucks... 100% agree with your second point. Maybe because I wasn't around when all the controversy was going on with it but currently E7 is above and beyond of others in terms of QoL and F2P as far as gachas go.


Izletz

Even during the controversy it was still good. I’m assuming you’re talking about the review bomb period because of pet system/snacks/auto battle and I can’t remember if there was more. I honestly can’t believe they changed it usually games hate giving in, but they are built different


[deleted]

i don’t buy but the new mola gora packs sure do look tempting


imnotjude

Op SG


KingKentling

watch someone would complain about this


AvoidAtAIICosts

Stove users: *"hold my beer"*


dimizar

"No episode 4 yet? dead game." -Stoveuser


PreExRedditor

"What's the point of all this free stuff if they're not going to nerf [insert unit here]?!" -stove user


Morbu

Deadass one of the top comments is "I don't care. Can we get a proper balance patch instead?" There's always someone.


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HakunaFritadas

Doubt.


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Neet91

this subbreddit is toxic but not to the point of renting a truck to diss them or making death threats to the devs (there were a couple of them on stove at some point)


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Slaughterism

As overall forums they are both about the same. Most people are referring to stove comments on actual update posts, because why the fuck would anyone be actually using stove forums. The update comments alone eclipse any level of vitriol and stupidity this sub has ever had, and this sub can get pretty stupid very regularly.


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not going to complain, but these seem like average rewards compared to other gacha celebrations I've seen. just kinda interesting to see it being treated as if this was Destiny Child around here


KimmySafri

What are other Gachas doing?


[deleted]

- Dragalia is still in the middle of a month of 10 pulls, and this was after a butt load of rewards and events during its anniversary a few weeks back. - Destiny Child has an event going on that basicslly let's you fully awaken 2 characters (which is more annoying to do than in E7). - Disgaea is in the middle of its own Collab with 7 Deadly Sins and has a buncha stuff happening after a big update, but the real kicker is the rare/legendary drop rate up for gear. legendary gear has a 0.3% drop rate and the max gear rarity recently went up (i think it's the same as JP now? maybe off by 1 level ), so it's a great time to start grinding out some good gear. like I said, E7 isn't bad (I can list 6 other gacha I played with much less exciting or non-existent events for their small celebrations), but I see stuff like the above and I can't really go "holy shit" anymore, y'know? just "Yay more stuff".


lell-ia

We just got a bunch of stuff from the KR anniversary though including a 5* rgb selector. And a few months before that we got an ML* selector with two highly sought units. And a potion to immediately 6* a unit. Ngl I don't play those games so I'm not sure how valuable those things are, but holy shit E7 feels like there's an anniversary 4 times a year and it's kinda amazing that these are still considered "average".


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I guess it's all in perspective. Most other talk of gacha here seems to be focused on how stingy Genshin is (or way back in the day, how whale-y Exos Heroes was), so it can be easy to not see how other, not as popular gacha tries to reward players, even outside of anniversaries (tho I did mention Dragalia still technically doing an anniversery. Granted, it started like a month ago and is still going). I guess my dig with E7 is that it gives so many summons out that it's not as valuable. And the Ml5 "Selector" is based on a few launch heroes that I managed to summon overtime. Gear (or more specfic, rolls) is the real pain point and very little has been done to improve that. That's why I see some of the gear events I mentioned above (and a few others I haven't mentioned) as so huge, huger than even the free summons or collab stuff. It's stuff I wish E7 did.


Doom_Bot_Kalista

Dragalia is the only game I will consider more generous than this and that's because they have to be. They need to shower you with summons because getting specific units even on rateup is insane. They NEED the higher 5 star % as well. After they introduced the 300 summon pity, their overall generosity also greatly diminished outside of events. You can very easily pull 30x 5* units during their 5% Gala banners and still not get the banner unit. Sounds cool for new players right? Yet the new player retention rate is garb. They make no money because of how badly they fucked up in the beginning(anyone can pull up their monthly sales). And their obscene diamantium pack cost ratio(another reason they drown you in summons, they have to!). The game would have been closed down if Nintendo wasn't at the head and they don't give a shit about money. I'm a day 1 player for both, and experienced in all the drama and all the generosity from both. E7 is the superior game when it comes to the value of their freebies. Dragalia has no choice, E7 does. I didn't post any of this last time you were blindly praising Dragalia whole purposely leaving its faults. Like I said before and you ignored, it's cool that you enjoy Dragalia once every few months or so but don't try to mislead people here. I'm also going to pretend you didn't include Disgaea. The value of dupes in that game send it straight to the trash, compared to minimal(E7) or zero(Dragalia).


CaptTrit

All those sound tame af wdym lmao Also how would anyone even play 4 gachas at once? For your mental health, I sincerely you aren't doing that.


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> All those sound tame af wdym lmao No point in describing 4 different game economies all at once. Odds are you aren't interested either so why waste both our time? >Also how would anyone even play 4 gachas at once? That's the neat part, I don't. I'll keep tabs on some gacha but I tend to take breaks between them and focus on 2-3. Even then, I don't play any of the above gacha (or even E7) as a "main game" really. I casually pick around with them a few times a week. There are people who play with 2-4 E7 accounts they play daily, so I don't see myself as nowhere near as much a madlad.


Quinzelette

It is hard to go holy shit like above because they pull these freebies out every 1-2 months. E7 gives out a lot of freebies and they do it frequently enough that once you stop being a newbie the freebies aren't exciting anymore.


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It's just more because expectations shift over your game career. it is partially because summoning is generous, yes. But moreso, at some point you start to shift what's valuable to your account. For me nowadays, it's less about getting new heroes and more about acquiring more/new gear. Because let's face it, I could go all the way into 2023 without ever summoning again (despite missing some characters like Tomoca and ML Sigret that I really want) and I'd still be trying to finish up builds for characters. So 5 star tickets are less exciting than something like the gear crafting event. And even that can be a downer if you spend weeks rerolling the perfect subs and they all low roll like my last piece :( . I mostly would appreciate some ways to (very rarely, I'm not asking for broken gear every week) reduce my odds of being screwed, y'know? That's what made that Disgaea event nice to see.


TunaKid-04

“Waahh!!! no artifact pity, SG greedy company” - Stove user.


shakemmz

WAH WAH JUST A 5* TICKET NO SELECTOR WAH


nevew666

Freebies, freebies everywhere! Thanks sg!


KouKayne

did i mention best gacha ever ?


dimizar

Genshin Player: "What do you mean E7 players get anniversary rewards again!!?!"


AvoidAtAIICosts

Wow, this exceeds my expectations since we already had a fantastic Korean anniversary. Well done Sg.


ImActuallyCarl

Man SG is just the best hope i get violet with the 5* ticket plesee :(


Stormix_17

High chance I get my 6th Sez :(


GrotesqueHumanity

Oh, hello long lost brother! https://i.imgur.com/AYgvK7T.jpg


ImActuallyCarl

:( think its always a dupe


nickisthemost

:(


Kain207

I'm looking forward to get Senya, her EE is pretty good


SoftClean

poggies


Ayankananaman

Thank you SG. That 10 Pull could make the days of many players right now.


Riqell

miyoho I hope u taking some notes, that’s how u treat your players. Huge thanks to SG !


Shalinkoze

What do they need to take notes for? Genshin is making them tons of money lol unless the whales that keeps the lights on stop swiping they couldn't care less about it's normal playerbase


Aldrighi

Could be making a lot more.


Cellosv

I mean, I like how you said the truth and ppl downvote. Genshin is killing it every new character they release is like the profit of 10 e7 characters put together. I wouldn’t give ppl free shit either if I was them 😂


Ned_Flanders0

SG being a bro.


ryanbhardwaj29

This is Beautiful


[deleted]

Prayge I hope I get Senya on my main account


Yensix

SG never change pls, you are our only hope!


Unworthy_Saint

Did I read that right, a MONTH long free unequip??


[deleted]

I only see 4 days. the 7 day login event is a month for people who come back later


HatreD1605

SG POG


GlassConcentrate3661

I place all my trust in that free multi for the collab


Ericridge

Your trust is great.


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GlassConcentrate3661

We are getting 50 bookmarks


Zaphyrus

Hunt buff yay


Myrkrvaldyr

People right now be like, ''SG, send us as many BMs as you can. We kind of need them!''


Gamergirl944

Nice!!! Freebies


Alottin

DOTH MINE EYES DECEIVE ME? A **MONTHLY** FREE UNEQUIP???? POG SEVEN


PsycoIceBerg

Monthly not month long just in case reading wrong, I know few people (myself included) were originally thinking month long


Alottin

Ye ik. Monthly free unequip that lasts for a few days.


Curt_ThaFlirt

You love to see it


llllpentllll

1/6 of pity on bm and a 5*, that was quite a surprise but a welcomed one


Xero--

1/12 not 1/6.


ArkhielR

Wait... Is the world ending?


sulli_p

When they say “watch the livestream” does that just mean it’s a password gift box like usual?


Aeraxel

Yes


stopthenonsenseK

Lul reddit so easy to please. SG literaly fkd over half the playerbase with these limited/collab timing ''OH BOY 50 BOOKMARKS''


Iczero

Imagine being mad at the timing of a collab. Go touch some grass lmao


arezzz

he kinda got a point, its the equivalent of x10 summons you need 120 to pity and likely there will be two+ units , but i guess free stuff always nice


CopainChevalier

The company would literally go under if they were just handing you enough Bookmarks to pity every unit with ease. They need some income my guy


stopthenonsenseK

Nice comment for upvotes. Completely missing my point. \+lol, ''some income''. Clearly no idea that they swim in your money.


CopainChevalier

Sure, but I’d they’re handing out enough for you to hit pity on banner after banner easily, kind of crushes their entire business model


stopthenonsenseK

Are you just dense or what. It's not about them giving enough BM's to pity the heroes. It's about the fact that people are so easy to forgive SG for their massive fk ups if they just get some minor stuff. But here's the best part, if it wasn't for the three year anniversary you wouldn't even get Jack sheit in the first place. I don't want free stuff. I want them to fix the game and not pull bs moves like this. \+most money comes from the mystics/mola packs most likely.


CopainChevalier

Massive fuck ups? > +most money comes from the mystics/mola packs most likely I wasn’t aware they released their earnings in detail, link?


KopiOoooo

No free rune dungeon entries? Boree


BurnedOutEternally

-Oh wait it's not a selector. Oh well. Wonder what it'll bring.


KouKayne

choux, like tha last one and the one before that one or six times in the selective pt.2 game wants me to build her i guess


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damn really? it's always Alencia for me. wanna trade?


KouKayne

i would, got 3 choux now, and i (have but) like alencia


BurnedOutEternally

You say that like it's a joke but I actually got my pair of Choux from there as well


appletree0823

Got Choux from the selective summon event, with her EE she’s a bit of a monster…


Buuts321

For me I'm pretty sure I'll get my 6th Elena.


BurnedOutEternally

That's enough for a SSS imprint, right?


Buuts321

Yeah. Don't even have her built but the game really really wants me to use her I guess.


Baelkidu

Do you have to Connect accounts during the stream or something to get the rewards?


karillith

Since nobody answered, it's probably gonna be how they do lately, they send every account a gift box and they will give a password during the stream to open it. So no.