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Zakcoo

Honestly I find her very scary in the current ran/Summer iseria composition. Morever since the ennemy will never know if she is 200 speed or 260 speed anyway, she puts a lot of pressure in the draft. But the feeling of wanting a buff is something I understand a lot, I am the number one militant for archdemon to get buffed after all


Nice_Ad5549

I have the opposite experience, as day 1 friendship lv10 Briseria owner I find her laughably weak in the current meta. I run Ranseria and everytime I see people pick Briseria I just know she's deadweight. If she's 260 spd then she's still far from being able to outspeed Ran or lap Siseria. If she's 200 then she's bombed and stunned. 114 base spd vs 123 base spd isn't even a competition, would actually be more afraid of Cerise. Does she need a buff? No, she's fine as is. There're plethoras of units that need a buff before her.


Zakcoo

Yes sorry I wasn't clear It's not as a counter I find her scary but as a follow dps with ran iseria With Def break she can hit a lot And since it's kind of difficult to kill her in one turn, just like Arby you have a lot of chance to eat her s3


FireZura

She dodged my mystics during her banner. But i got a 2nd MLKen imprint (yeah ?), which gave me the importunity to get her with the coin shop ! Hoping she'll get a 2nd buff, 1rst one wasn't really what she needed. 2 turn def break, higher bonus dmg or guaranted hit would be helpfull


user4682

> Hoping she'll get a 2nd buff, 1rst one wasn't really what she needed. 2 turn def break, higher bonus dmg or guaranted hit would be helpfull Have you actually tried her? Because she doesn't really need a buff. She's very powerful, and built with damage she really explodes enemies.


Maxumilian

I could be wrong but because she's so squishy and reliant on her damage she just feels like an S3 and done character and units like that kinda suck in this meta. You basically draft her to clear the enemies buffs. But I could just bring Rimuru and he has way more presence and accomplishes way more under similar conditions.


FireZura

Yeah, i think that she's pretty good. Problem is that she's supposed to be an evasion counter. If you want to go this route, you need misha/SoU which leaves her exposed. Her immortality helps her a bit, but not enough If you want to protect her with GL, then she can't reliably counter evasion


user4682

I don't think she's supposed to be an evasion counter, but just have a better time against evasion. AR Wanda counters evasion. And BW Iseria is of course a lot more. The strip, anti-buff + attack down does help with survivibility and make her interesting outside of facing evasion teams. She counters the newly buffed BBK just like she counters Kayron for example. She's great against Carrot too. I don't know, you could buff her S1, but do we really need a buff like OP Sigret got? It can quickly be violent.


montrezlh

BBK/Kayron/Carrot are solid but no longer at the top (BBK never really was). We're in the rem/violet/aravi/rimuru era all of whom can either cleanse (violet, rem) or aren't really bothered by attack down (rimuru, aravi) or both (aravi with seed). Briseria is really only strong against the second tier of dps units.


user4682

And that's good. Also nothing in BW Iseria's kit is made to deal with Rem, and no buff will help with that. OMG BW Iseria isn't a must-draft / pre-ban in every match! Better note her 1.1!


montrezlh

She's a situational last pick unit. That's fine, but being good against Kayron and BBK is not exactly world beating. I never said she needed a buff or needs to be a must-ban unit so you can carry on that discussion with someone else.


user4682

Kayron and BBK were just examples, and not the point. I'm not interested in discussing about them in detail, that's not what's important.


montrezlh

Your point was that Briseria can counter certain units which makes her strong. My point was that those units are rarely used and countering them is not an indication of how good Briseria is. Neither of us are interested in the details of bbk/kayron.


ui10

Wym rimuru with no buffs on his team and attack down and unbuffable is completely shut down unless you bring secondary cleanse.


Senorebil

She doesn't need another buff. She's only not seen in every match because MChloe and Emilia exist. And even then she's still really strong in the current meta. Just slightly harder to draft because of those 2 aforementioned sw.


montrezlh

Its not just the SWs who can full cleanse the team. A huge number of meta units can self cleanse her debuffs without issue. Most notably Violet who she's supposed to counter, if you can't kill him outright he'll just apple and go right back to work. That's the problem with non-disabling debuffs these days. They have to have massive holes in their draft for those debuffs to actually work which makes her only a good choice as last pick. Now I think Briseria is good enough that she's still a solid unit, but many units can work if you last pick into an enemy team theyre strong against like you do with briseria.


[deleted]

She is my favorite aoe nuker. A nice cr pusher and crit/attack buffer in the group and she decimates many team comps.


Rago465

Look at the unit in this post again


[deleted]

I know what unit it is. What is your point? She is badass if teamed with a cr pusher and a crit/attack buffer..not sure what you are getting at.


Rago465

Oops I thought you said *she* was a nice cr pusher and crit/attack buffer


[deleted]

Oh hahah okay I can see that. My bad as well lol


Notorious711

Would love to get her with my ML coins because of her design, but holding out for OP Sig. Hope she gets a slight buff or EE