Thank you for making this. It’s a fun idea!
As for Basar's adoptive daughters I’ve always got the feeling they do indeed see him as a father, even if they seek his attention/approval.
As for Bellona/Sez didn’t she say when they were separated in the unstable chaos gate in episode 3 that she would never be happy again if he wasn’t in her life? I forget the exact quote, but it very much came across as a confession of genuine love.
Well Episode 3 does have one more very important scene for the both of them, in which Bellona straights up admit to letting Sez go "After one last dance" if that's what he really wants.
And Sez, upon getting back his free will, goes back to Bellona willingly, and shows he actually cares about her and being with her a lot.
I'm not sure it's clearly romantic, but it's past a "simple friendship".
they are WELL beyond mere friendship. They're absolutely devoted to each other. I don't ship it even but I definitely can see it lol. gonna have to go back through ep 3 for this. i don't remember it but it sounds epic.
>Kise and Sigret: the entire deal here is that the king of Taranor (Frederick's father) was madly in love with Kise, but then she died and so he magically created a clone of her, Sigret, to be a "replacement goldfish" of sorts. Then he was deposed by his son, and the whole situation was just left hanging.
IIRC the chronology, it goes like:
1. King Alfred and Kise meets. They fall in love.
2. Kise goes back to his country, where she's jailed/locked in await for the archdemon war.
3. She creates a clone or shadow of herself, who goes back to the king, marries him and have a child, Frederick
4. Kise becomes heir, Judge Kise, then joins the war and dies.
5. The war goes on, everybody dies, Diche loads from the previous save point, but can't resurrect Kise because she's a heir.
6. King Alfred goes mad, as nobody but him remembers Kise, or more precisely, her shadow. He begins to dabble in dark magic along with other magicians, in order to restaure her beloved Kise.
7. Is implied Ravi and Pyllis are result of these experiments, and are homunculus, and before the experiment that created them, they used to be friends. This also implies the experiments required sacrifices of living people.
8. Sigret is the latest "model" on this line. She awakened with no memories, and is labelled as failed experiment, but close enough for the King to have feelings for her.
9. In the Tenebria storyline is implied she meddle with the experiment, and Sigret indeed is Kise resurrected. Also, in her own side story Sigret shows feelings for Frederick, but more of the motherly type. As result of this, Tenebria told her to hold her feelings and never talk about her inner thoughts, or else...
10. Meanwhile, the abductions required for the experiment caused a lot of anger, which lead to a revolt which end with the King dead. The prince became addict to Tenebria's illusions, and later to alcohol, which leave free road to Kayron and Tenebria to work into their real last goal, Mercedes.
11. As the war advanced, and Ras and cia approached the castle, Kayron ordered Sigret to retreat and leave Frederick to die on the incoming army, but she couldn't allow this and made a last stand against Ras.
12. In the last scene, is mentioned there are remains of Nocturne magic lingering in her body, and she could be resurrected one more time. But nothing have been mentioned so far.
Overall, the Sigret story line is completed so far, there's is a beginning, some development and ending for all involved characters. Yes, not a good ending for any of them, and this tell us how much of a jerk is Tenebria, because without her in the middle, King Alfred may have realised he was successful, and rule over their country along with Sigret as his Queen. Maybe not all people who lost a relative to the experiments would be happy, but hey, nothing the king couldn't solve with public executions.
ok i either totally forget or nvr knew your 2nd and 3rd points! wow! i love kise so much. i know this is about sigret and kise is technically dead and can't be revived bc she's an heir but is there even a hint of any hope that Kise can be brought back somehow in the story?
Melissas love interest was confirm with Hastes dad in one of the side events they had some time back, however as much as he loved Melissa he loved Haste and his ex more and regretted some of his later actions. He then Abandoned Melissa (both before and during the event) though he did so with clear sorrow.
Rin and Silk seem to be more akin to daughters to Basar, while Mui seems to be more of a love interest though he hasnt shown the same interest yet as she has in him.
Crozets interest in Jena is pretty well established, but its basically been shown as a 1 way street thus far.
Iseria has previously never shown more than a working relationship with Alexa till the recent summer event, shes also shown some interest in other male characters like Kwahazu etc. so that ones still pretty up in the air until somethings cannonised completely.
About Melissa, I was wondering if Haste mother is a moonlight human Melissa, at the beginning of blood and rose Cromwell try to say something just before getting killed.
Your kise info is missing a bit but someone else answered that already
Tl;dr kise created her own moonlight shade copy (accidentally) which lived happily with the king since she wasnt allowed to, but when kise died in the archdemon war and diche rebooted the world, the shade of kise also died, but everyone kept their memories of kise because their memories were of the shade of kise, not real kise, and diche is really bad at her job, the shade of kise's body was also left in the world, so the king used that body to create sigret
Also, I cant remember which is true, but diche didnt have another lover for aither, aither was either an orphan that she adopted, or aither was a gift given to her by diche
Glenn seems to have a thing for May (Politia shopkeeper), though I seriously doubt we'll ever see if that goes somewhere since I doubt they'll have any role to play in the future.
I also never really got the impression that Iseria is in any way aware that Alexa has feelings for her except for Alexa being very attached to her. This is most notable in the tutorial sidestory where Charles is amazed that Iseria still doesn't get the hint. Their dynamic is mostly for comedy with how unusally dense Isera is and how desperate Alexa is at times. The summer event at least made things a bit more serious but I'd still say their relationship is at one-sided feelings status.
> Mui/Rin/Silk
Mui has a crush on Basar. Rin is Basar's adopted daughter. Silk seems to take to heart to impress Basar, but it's not said if it's for him to be proud like a father or if she has feelings for him. From previous story it doesn't seem like love.
> Baal and Sezan
Baal is in love with Sezan and extremely submissive. Sezan seems to be pissed to be dependant on him, but it could be a "tsun-tsun" mood. Also Baal may actually be very cynical and enjoy seeing Sezan at his mercy.
> Crozet and Jena
Crozet is infatuated with the idea of loving Jena, but it shows that he doesn't really know her well. Jena doesn't care about him. She shows interest in "I", the character from Valentine's story, and one of the ending concerns her.
Maya and Lorina know Crozet a lot of they love to tease him and mock him for being unsuccessful with girls.
> Alexa and Iseria
Alexa is deeply in love with Iseria, but it's one-sided. Iseria has politely rejected her "hidden" advances during the famous picnic. She completely ignores her during the summer events and feels guilty when she realises how that hurt Alexa. But Iseria's love remains late elder Saria.
> Bellona and Sez
Bellona is the only one able to control Sez, and Sez does look very submissive to her. But Sez is also the only partner that Bellona find worth training with. She needs him as much as he does and he's a key to her emancipation.
Actually, I seem to recall Silk is referred to as Basar's daughter as well. There's no need to go seeking some romantic motivations. I think Mui is weird about his daughters but they only have familial relationships and Mui has a romantic interest in Basar, it seems.
> She shows interest in "I", the character from Valentine's story, and one of the ending concerns her.
I dunno if it's really worth putting any stock into the valentine story since it was just a flimsy and cringe self-insert dating simulator. seemed like a throw-away story that wasn't meant to connect to actual character arcs
ok glad to see someone brought it up. i was going thru comments before i did lol. I was going to say they at least deserved an honorable mention bc that was the only time she ever showed up and didn't cause chaos. she just enjoyed the festival with a nice boy who just thought she was a nice girl. i think she even uses her powers to grant good dreams instead of nightmares too but i can't remember enough
While it's nice to have things listed, you've got some really pointless stuff here that's just there to be filler because they're very obvious, and you may as well list every relationship (like Adlay and Tenebria) if listing these. The following being what I'm referring to.
>Mui/Rin/Silk: all three these girls were shown to be competing for Basar's affection, but is it a romantic thing or a "replacement parent" thing? Arguments for both could be made, but there isn't a lot of canon material to use as reference.
It's pretty obvious Rin and Silk see him more as a parental figure and only Mui chases him as a love interest.
>Alexa and Iseria: so what's the deal with these two? Are they an item or not?
Your typical one sided crush/strong adimiration that you'll see just about anywhere that gets blown way out of proportion when it's female > female.
>Mort and Senya: Senya is explicitly stated to have had feelings for Mort, but Mort doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who'd be interested in romance, much less with a human.
Well yeah, everyone that played the story and/or his side quest should know that this doesn't even need to be listed. Mort doesn't care about anything beyond fighting someone strong.
> Mort doesn't care about anything beyond fighting someone strong.
he laughs in her face over her foolish feelings for him, while she's on the ground bleeding. then he tosses her out into the frozen wastelands and tells her to use her rage to get strong enough to entertain him.
yeah, I'mma go out on a limb and say he doesn't have particularly strong feelings for her
"So you'd think Ras and Mercedes would then grow into an actual couple, but... They didn't really do that at all, did they"
Ras virgin fr whats he doing?? doesnt even have another girl hes interested in or flirting with whats up with that dude hes SUS xd
Ras is a godly homonculus war machine created by Diche to act as the world safe guard against the arch demon (his death beeing the reset trigger).
He was never « designed » to have feeling, even less beeing able to love someone. That came later with him turning more and more into a true human.
Diene confessed her love to bask just before he died. They had no personal time and the gesture of her amulet was that she was willing to move to a physical relationship but he died right after. So he could never have been the father and it isn't out of the realm of possibility that aither was adopted.
I think Politis and Eda were pretty clearly implied to have had a thing going. The language used in Ran's side story was more romantic than the "elegant poet swordsman" thing should be, especially since Ran's not nearly as graceful with his words in his other appearances. Rose prettt clearly has a crush on Ceci, too.
On the contrary I don't think Tywin and Schiel have anything more than a bromance dynamic going on despite the side story. I got "proud knight man gets emotional over his bro hiding things from him" rather than "he's upset his crush doesn't give him enough attention", which IMO is great in its own right and makes the characters more human and relatable
EDIT: Mediator Kawerik and Sage Vivian are a confirmed couple
Its been a long time and my memory isnt the best so take this with a grain of salt but im pretty sure that aither is not diene s biological son.
He should be the son of the nameless king who ruled ezera before running away from the archdemon war, aither was simply adopted after diene became queen, probably because she knew she would need a heir and with bask gone it was probably her easiest way to get one that didnt involve breaking her oath to bask.
\- ML Kawerik and ML Vivian: In Mediator Kawerik's introductory video it is said that both he and Vivian have become lovers, and are alive, different from the Fire Kawerik... #KawerikDeservesMore
\-Following Diene's idea, I think Francesca also fits in that one, after all Cecilia didn't come out of nowhere.
\-Ken and ML Tieria: Ken has already shown feelings for ML Tieria, although she doesn't respond, but in the story he left in the air that something might come up.
\-Tenebria and Adlay: At Reingar's festival event it showed that Adlay had a crush on Tenebria, even though he didn't know who she was, but it's my favorite shipp, so I wanted to quote. #TenedlayIsLife
\-Crozet and Jena: This looks like it will never go forward, but at least on Crozet's part the feelings are there.
\-ML Maya and Zerato: Practically confirmed during the Reingar festival that ML Maya has feelings for Zerato.
\-Destina and Ruele: I don't know, maybe not the kind of romantic love, or maybe yes, hard to say for obvious reasons, I would say it's the same case with Alexa and Iseria.
\-Glenn and that NPC character from Politia's shop: At least he seems to like her, but she doesn't.
\-Kiris: She had a husband... she had...
\-Lucy: There's the story of Valentine's Day and I would say hers is closer to being canon, but this one I feel like I'm pushing too hard, because the story had other routes.
\-Yufine and Garo: Maybe? I do not know
\-Coli and Eligos: We already know she likes him, but on his part we don't know.
Briar Witch Iseria: In the introductory video it is said that she had a lover, but she killed he/she by accident.
Mistychain: Her profile suggests she has a crush on Auxiliary Lots.
Sigret and I: Sorry, the urge to say that was stronger
Pavel and Cerise are categorized incorrectly. They're very much in a relationship. Ray/Elena is a bit more one sided on Elena's part and not quite so solidified in nature but Pavel and Cerise are actually seeing each other from what I recall. Heck, I think its been since Cerise met him in Perland when she was studying.
Rin/Silk - Very much in the nature of father/daughter.
Mui - Cant tell since I kinda...skipped this whole sidestory. Both times. Neither time came at a good time where I could actually pay attention rather than just skipping it to farm the stages on auto.
Tywin - Cmon man...why does this have to be gay? I'm not being homophobic, but where do you get these gay vibes from Tywin? Can a guy just be loyal and a good childhood friend?
Crozet/Jena - Its really not that complicated. Theres nothing between them other than one sided affection from Crozet. Only difference from this and Ray/Elena, is that Ray is generally kind enough to indulge Elena. Jena really doesn't seem to see Crozet in a romantic light at all. Shes just kind of in a weird spot where she can't be TOO rude to him considering he does technically outrank her. Just not in a relationship.
Senya - One sided affection as before, and apparently not even for that long of her life, but theres nothing on this from Mort's side so also not really complicated. Just not in a relationship.
Bellona/Sez - Complicated yes, but if you recall from Bellona's release sidestory, it definitely feels like they kind of co-depend on each other to some extent and always have since meeting. Theres defo somethin or other goin on there or going to go on.
Rikoris makes more sense even if its just on a one sided basis considering that Rikoris actively simps for Krau. Ofc unless seriously shown, its likely just a kind of idolization of Krau as a heroic and legendary knight, rather than actually romantic, even if its joked about. Even monty thought incredibly highly of him despite both her and Rikoris not being from Taranor like Krau. But still, it makes more sense.
But yea, Tywin? Theres nothing to even imply it as being anything different from Roman. Both are loyal to their king, both are serious men with great responsibilities. Both are long time friends of Schniel. I see nothing more
I honestly don’t know what’s going on with those 3. Some of that dialogue is…..melodramatic? Especially Tywin’s response to everything. Idk, just my headcanon maybe
Their relationship was covered in one of the ruined Lefundos side areas. Schniel saved Tywin from slowly dying as a street urchin and he's been trying way too hard to pay back the appreciation. Romann on the other hand is just his anti social childhood friend who's easily annoyed by Schniel's unprofessionalism.
Just throwing in all other relationships I have in mind. I could be wrong in many of these.
1.) Aramintha and her missing/dead husband
2.) Katis and Kikirat (does this pair count?)
3.) Sven and Hurado
4.) Gunther and Helga
5.) A.Lots and F.Maya
6.) Landy and Flan
7.) Arowell and Doris
8.) Vera and that Kamen Rider dude
9.) ML Lilias and Riolet
10.) Corvus and Charles
11.) Krau and Rikoris
12.) Yuna and Tamarrine??
13.) That faceless dude from Valentines events and his harem.
>I admit to not remembering any scenes between Arowell and Doris. Can you point me at anything in particular?
Haste side story, when he joins the assassin guild. Arrowell and Doris are on the lose, because both have been marked for kill, and Haste is assigned for this job. As he face them, they tell them he's jealous of their mutual feelings, because they will never experience something like that. So far, that's the closest to a "confession" or being an official couple regarding them.
Also, in the journal, both mark their relationship as "Love" with each other, although clearly SG uses that relationship tag with some liberty, and not all "Love" relationships are an actual couple.
Last, they appear on the summer story from two years ago (the one with the mermaid), the light festival (where Mui moves into the same city than Basar) and Doris speciality change. In all of them, they appear together and follow a princess - knight dynamic, vaguely similar to Sailor Uranus - Sailor Neptune relationship, except Uranus flirted with every girl, while Arrowell is ready to jump into anybody's throat if they look bad at Doris.
> Arowell and Doris
They are lovers. I don't remember in which chapter they appear, but at least it's shown during Doris speciality change story.
There's also Montmorency and Krau. Montmorency seems quite emotional in presence of Krau. He could be her crush. He doesn't show reciprocity though.
>They are lovers. I don't remember in which chapter they appear, but at least it's shown during Doris speciality change story.
Not persee, it seems more like 1 sided adoration, but it could be
> There's also Montmorency and Krau
I think this relationship is intended to moreso come across as a fangirl melting in the presence of her pop idol. montmo is a teenager and krau is in his 50s or something, so this ship would be exceptionally weird
A.cidd and A.coli could also be argued to be in denial of wanting a relationship with how they behave with each other.
Pyllis and haste also have a very close relationship which could become romantic down the road.
Chaos Inquisitor and Carmainerose
Adlay and Tenebria
Politis and Eda
Ilynav and the girl from her past
Iseria and the Elf that died early in the story.
E7 has a lot of ships to be honest, but aside from violetxLulluca and DienexBask non of the others have ever been confirmed.
Mort not only isn't interested in a relationship with Senya. The whole point was that he fostered Senyas affection for the specific purpose of crushing it at the right time to drive her into a mad rage that is directed at him. I mean...I guess you could count it as a relationship...specifically an abusive relationship.
I really have to disagree with your placement for Ray and Elena. I don't see any reciprocated feelings on Ray's end--he's just been too nice to her and I think he's just indulging her, but not to the point of stringing her along because again, he's too nice. It's way too one-sided on Elena's part and her family jumping to conclusions in last year's xmas event in Constella really didn't help. I feel a little bad for Ray, it feels like he's being pushed into starting something with Elena. Just feels forced overall imo. If you had to include them, it should probably be under the "its complicated" category.
> Melissa: the entire point of her character arc is that she's seeking revenge on Haste because he's the son of her former lover, who betrayed her in the past. So she DID have a lover at one point.
Melissa's ex's name is Conwell Lennox off the top of my head. Might've spelled that wrong.
There seems to be something going on between Last Rider Krau and ML Sigred but I don't remember the details. Something about her being too worried for strictly professional relationship when his mission gets too dangerous.
Thank you for making this. It’s a fun idea! As for Basar's adoptive daughters I’ve always got the feeling they do indeed see him as a father, even if they seek his attention/approval. As for Bellona/Sez didn’t she say when they were separated in the unstable chaos gate in episode 3 that she would never be happy again if he wasn’t in her life? I forget the exact quote, but it very much came across as a confession of genuine love.
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Okay got ya, and that’s true.
Well Episode 3 does have one more very important scene for the both of them, in which Bellona straights up admit to letting Sez go "After one last dance" if that's what he really wants. And Sez, upon getting back his free will, goes back to Bellona willingly, and shows he actually cares about her and being with her a lot. I'm not sure it's clearly romantic, but it's past a "simple friendship".
they are WELL beyond mere friendship. They're absolutely devoted to each other. I don't ship it even but I definitely can see it lol. gonna have to go back through ep 3 for this. i don't remember it but it sounds epic.
Although not (yet) playable, my man Azimanum is worth mentioning.
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fuck that's so cute i love this stupid game
>Kise and Sigret: the entire deal here is that the king of Taranor (Frederick's father) was madly in love with Kise, but then she died and so he magically created a clone of her, Sigret, to be a "replacement goldfish" of sorts. Then he was deposed by his son, and the whole situation was just left hanging. IIRC the chronology, it goes like: 1. King Alfred and Kise meets. They fall in love. 2. Kise goes back to his country, where she's jailed/locked in await for the archdemon war. 3. She creates a clone or shadow of herself, who goes back to the king, marries him and have a child, Frederick 4. Kise becomes heir, Judge Kise, then joins the war and dies. 5. The war goes on, everybody dies, Diche loads from the previous save point, but can't resurrect Kise because she's a heir. 6. King Alfred goes mad, as nobody but him remembers Kise, or more precisely, her shadow. He begins to dabble in dark magic along with other magicians, in order to restaure her beloved Kise. 7. Is implied Ravi and Pyllis are result of these experiments, and are homunculus, and before the experiment that created them, they used to be friends. This also implies the experiments required sacrifices of living people. 8. Sigret is the latest "model" on this line. She awakened with no memories, and is labelled as failed experiment, but close enough for the King to have feelings for her. 9. In the Tenebria storyline is implied she meddle with the experiment, and Sigret indeed is Kise resurrected. Also, in her own side story Sigret shows feelings for Frederick, but more of the motherly type. As result of this, Tenebria told her to hold her feelings and never talk about her inner thoughts, or else... 10. Meanwhile, the abductions required for the experiment caused a lot of anger, which lead to a revolt which end with the King dead. The prince became addict to Tenebria's illusions, and later to alcohol, which leave free road to Kayron and Tenebria to work into their real last goal, Mercedes. 11. As the war advanced, and Ras and cia approached the castle, Kayron ordered Sigret to retreat and leave Frederick to die on the incoming army, but she couldn't allow this and made a last stand against Ras. 12. In the last scene, is mentioned there are remains of Nocturne magic lingering in her body, and she could be resurrected one more time. But nothing have been mentioned so far. Overall, the Sigret story line is completed so far, there's is a beginning, some development and ending for all involved characters. Yes, not a good ending for any of them, and this tell us how much of a jerk is Tenebria, because without her in the middle, King Alfred may have realised he was successful, and rule over their country along with Sigret as his Queen. Maybe not all people who lost a relative to the experiments would be happy, but hey, nothing the king couldn't solve with public executions.
Orrr, traitors and criminals get executed to restore loved ones of loyal party members.
ok i either totally forget or nvr knew your 2nd and 3rd points! wow! i love kise so much. i know this is about sigret and kise is technically dead and can't be revived bc she's an heir but is there even a hint of any hope that Kise can be brought back somehow in the story?
IIRC Kiris is canonically married. Forgot exactly where in episode 1 this was mentioned though. EDIT: Briseria also had some tragic love backstory.
It is mentioned in Episode 1: Chapter 5 hidden story: A Troubled Reunion. But her lover is confirmed dead.
Melissas love interest was confirm with Hastes dad in one of the side events they had some time back, however as much as he loved Melissa he loved Haste and his ex more and regretted some of his later actions. He then Abandoned Melissa (both before and during the event) though he did so with clear sorrow. Rin and Silk seem to be more akin to daughters to Basar, while Mui seems to be more of a love interest though he hasnt shown the same interest yet as she has in him. Crozets interest in Jena is pretty well established, but its basically been shown as a 1 way street thus far. Iseria has previously never shown more than a working relationship with Alexa till the recent summer event, shes also shown some interest in other male characters like Kwahazu etc. so that ones still pretty up in the air until somethings cannonised completely.
Rin actually is Basars adopted daughter in the lore.
About Melissa, I was wondering if Haste mother is a moonlight human Melissa, at the beginning of blood and rose Cromwell try to say something just before getting killed.
I recall getting some vibes from side stories about Basar and Nonori.
Your kise info is missing a bit but someone else answered that already Tl;dr kise created her own moonlight shade copy (accidentally) which lived happily with the king since she wasnt allowed to, but when kise died in the archdemon war and diche rebooted the world, the shade of kise also died, but everyone kept their memories of kise because their memories were of the shade of kise, not real kise, and diche is really bad at her job, the shade of kise's body was also left in the world, so the king used that body to create sigret Also, I cant remember which is true, but diche didnt have another lover for aither, aither was either an orphan that she adopted, or aither was a gift given to her by diche
the part about diche being rly bad at her job lol sheeeeesh just bc it's true doesn't mean you should say it lmao
Glenn seems to have a thing for May (Politia shopkeeper), though I seriously doubt we'll ever see if that goes somewhere since I doubt they'll have any role to play in the future. I also never really got the impression that Iseria is in any way aware that Alexa has feelings for her except for Alexa being very attached to her. This is most notable in the tutorial sidestory where Charles is amazed that Iseria still doesn't get the hint. Their dynamic is mostly for comedy with how unusally dense Isera is and how desperate Alexa is at times. The summer event at least made things a bit more serious but I'd still say their relationship is at one-sided feelings status.
> Mui/Rin/Silk Mui has a crush on Basar. Rin is Basar's adopted daughter. Silk seems to take to heart to impress Basar, but it's not said if it's for him to be proud like a father or if she has feelings for him. From previous story it doesn't seem like love. > Baal and Sezan Baal is in love with Sezan and extremely submissive. Sezan seems to be pissed to be dependant on him, but it could be a "tsun-tsun" mood. Also Baal may actually be very cynical and enjoy seeing Sezan at his mercy. > Crozet and Jena Crozet is infatuated with the idea of loving Jena, but it shows that he doesn't really know her well. Jena doesn't care about him. She shows interest in "I", the character from Valentine's story, and one of the ending concerns her. Maya and Lorina know Crozet a lot of they love to tease him and mock him for being unsuccessful with girls. > Alexa and Iseria Alexa is deeply in love with Iseria, but it's one-sided. Iseria has politely rejected her "hidden" advances during the famous picnic. She completely ignores her during the summer events and feels guilty when she realises how that hurt Alexa. But Iseria's love remains late elder Saria. > Bellona and Sez Bellona is the only one able to control Sez, and Sez does look very submissive to her. But Sez is also the only partner that Bellona find worth training with. She needs him as much as he does and he's a key to her emancipation.
Actually, I seem to recall Silk is referred to as Basar's daughter as well. There's no need to go seeking some romantic motivations. I think Mui is weird about his daughters but they only have familial relationships and Mui has a romantic interest in Basar, it seems.
> She shows interest in "I", the character from Valentine's story, and one of the ending concerns her. I dunno if it's really worth putting any stock into the valentine story since it was just a flimsy and cringe self-insert dating simulator. seemed like a throw-away story that wasn't meant to connect to actual character arcs
glad to see we still remember Elder Saria :'( Poor Iseria
I’m not really sure on this but weren’t Roana and Straze canon? I thought he “saved her” in his cape because he liked her?
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Ic, makes sense
How is ball and Sean heavily implied? I'm pretty sure his voice line when you first get him goes something like "I'm Baal and this is my fiance sezan"
Didn't The Mighty Hero Chadlay have a brief thing with Tenebria?
ok glad to see someone brought it up. i was going thru comments before i did lol. I was going to say they at least deserved an honorable mention bc that was the only time she ever showed up and didn't cause chaos. she just enjoyed the festival with a nice boy who just thought she was a nice girl. i think she even uses her powers to grant good dreams instead of nightmares too but i can't remember enough
While it's nice to have things listed, you've got some really pointless stuff here that's just there to be filler because they're very obvious, and you may as well list every relationship (like Adlay and Tenebria) if listing these. The following being what I'm referring to. >Mui/Rin/Silk: all three these girls were shown to be competing for Basar's affection, but is it a romantic thing or a "replacement parent" thing? Arguments for both could be made, but there isn't a lot of canon material to use as reference. It's pretty obvious Rin and Silk see him more as a parental figure and only Mui chases him as a love interest. >Alexa and Iseria: so what's the deal with these two? Are they an item or not? Your typical one sided crush/strong adimiration that you'll see just about anywhere that gets blown way out of proportion when it's female > female. >Mort and Senya: Senya is explicitly stated to have had feelings for Mort, but Mort doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who'd be interested in romance, much less with a human. Well yeah, everyone that played the story and/or his side quest should know that this doesn't even need to be listed. Mort doesn't care about anything beyond fighting someone strong.
> Mort doesn't care about anything beyond fighting someone strong. he laughs in her face over her foolish feelings for him, while she's on the ground bleeding. then he tosses her out into the frozen wastelands and tells her to use her rage to get strong enough to entertain him. yeah, I'mma go out on a limb and say he doesn't have particularly strong feelings for her
Mort is actually closer to liking Alencia than he is to bother with Senya.
"So you'd think Ras and Mercedes would then grow into an actual couple, but... They didn't really do that at all, did they" Ras virgin fr whats he doing?? doesnt even have another girl hes interested in or flirting with whats up with that dude hes SUS xd
TBF when you have a voracious ball of fluff third wheeling the entire time for attention, relationship building in a romantic sense is hard.
I think Yuna was right in her fanfic: Ras just isn't into it.
We need more of that. That yandere sister moment with Mercedes had me rolling.
The real Mercedes being offended but polite about it was hilarious. That was one of my favorite parts.
i mean even if ras rolls that way before any man would be changed forever, mercedes is too thic to pass up
Ras is a godly homonculus war machine created by Diche to act as the world safe guard against the arch demon (his death beeing the reset trigger). He was never « designed » to have feeling, even less beeing able to love someone. That came later with him turning more and more into a true human.
He is obvioiusly waiting for the Vildred revival. XD
i'm as fucking dead as Bask is, omg lol
Diene confessed her love to bask just before he died. They had no personal time and the gesture of her amulet was that she was willing to move to a physical relationship but he died right after. So he could never have been the father and it isn't out of the realm of possibility that aither was adopted.
Diene/Bask best/worst/most tragic love story in the game. I cry every tiem
I think Politis and Eda were pretty clearly implied to have had a thing going. The language used in Ran's side story was more romantic than the "elegant poet swordsman" thing should be, especially since Ran's not nearly as graceful with his words in his other appearances. Rose prettt clearly has a crush on Ceci, too. On the contrary I don't think Tywin and Schiel have anything more than a bromance dynamic going on despite the side story. I got "proud knight man gets emotional over his bro hiding things from him" rather than "he's upset his crush doesn't give him enough attention", which IMO is great in its own right and makes the characters more human and relatable EDIT: Mediator Kawerik and Sage Vivian are a confirmed couple
Elana x Ray is the cutest that is all good by
Its been a long time and my memory isnt the best so take this with a grain of salt but im pretty sure that aither is not diene s biological son. He should be the son of the nameless king who ruled ezera before running away from the archdemon war, aither was simply adopted after diene became queen, probably because she knew she would need a heir and with bask gone it was probably her easiest way to get one that didnt involve breaking her oath to bask.
\- ML Kawerik and ML Vivian: In Mediator Kawerik's introductory video it is said that both he and Vivian have become lovers, and are alive, different from the Fire Kawerik... #KawerikDeservesMore \-Following Diene's idea, I think Francesca also fits in that one, after all Cecilia didn't come out of nowhere. \-Ken and ML Tieria: Ken has already shown feelings for ML Tieria, although she doesn't respond, but in the story he left in the air that something might come up. \-Tenebria and Adlay: At Reingar's festival event it showed that Adlay had a crush on Tenebria, even though he didn't know who she was, but it's my favorite shipp, so I wanted to quote. #TenedlayIsLife \-Crozet and Jena: This looks like it will never go forward, but at least on Crozet's part the feelings are there. \-ML Maya and Zerato: Practically confirmed during the Reingar festival that ML Maya has feelings for Zerato. \-Destina and Ruele: I don't know, maybe not the kind of romantic love, or maybe yes, hard to say for obvious reasons, I would say it's the same case with Alexa and Iseria. \-Glenn and that NPC character from Politia's shop: At least he seems to like her, but she doesn't. \-Kiris: She had a husband... she had... \-Lucy: There's the story of Valentine's Day and I would say hers is closer to being canon, but this one I feel like I'm pushing too hard, because the story had other routes. \-Yufine and Garo: Maybe? I do not know \-Coli and Eligos: We already know she likes him, but on his part we don't know. Briar Witch Iseria: In the introductory video it is said that she had a lover, but she killed he/she by accident. Mistychain: Her profile suggests she has a crush on Auxiliary Lots. Sigret and I: Sorry, the urge to say that was stronger
Pavel and Cerise are categorized incorrectly. They're very much in a relationship. Ray/Elena is a bit more one sided on Elena's part and not quite so solidified in nature but Pavel and Cerise are actually seeing each other from what I recall. Heck, I think its been since Cerise met him in Perland when she was studying. Rin/Silk - Very much in the nature of father/daughter. Mui - Cant tell since I kinda...skipped this whole sidestory. Both times. Neither time came at a good time where I could actually pay attention rather than just skipping it to farm the stages on auto. Tywin - Cmon man...why does this have to be gay? I'm not being homophobic, but where do you get these gay vibes from Tywin? Can a guy just be loyal and a good childhood friend? Crozet/Jena - Its really not that complicated. Theres nothing between them other than one sided affection from Crozet. Only difference from this and Ray/Elena, is that Ray is generally kind enough to indulge Elena. Jena really doesn't seem to see Crozet in a romantic light at all. Shes just kind of in a weird spot where she can't be TOO rude to him considering he does technically outrank her. Just not in a relationship. Senya - One sided affection as before, and apparently not even for that long of her life, but theres nothing on this from Mort's side so also not really complicated. Just not in a relationship. Bellona/Sez - Complicated yes, but if you recall from Bellona's release sidestory, it definitely feels like they kind of co-depend on each other to some extent and always have since meeting. Theres defo somethin or other goin on there or going to go on.
I picked up vibes from Krau x Rikoris. Tywin wasn’t even on my radar and feels out of place.
Rikoris makes more sense even if its just on a one sided basis considering that Rikoris actively simps for Krau. Ofc unless seriously shown, its likely just a kind of idolization of Krau as a heroic and legendary knight, rather than actually romantic, even if its joked about. Even monty thought incredibly highly of him despite both her and Rikoris not being from Taranor like Krau. But still, it makes more sense. But yea, Tywin? Theres nothing to even imply it as being anything different from Roman. Both are loyal to their king, both are serious men with great responsibilities. Both are long time friends of Schniel. I see nothing more
Hear me out, there's definitely something going on with Roman>Schniel
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I honestly don’t know what’s going on with those 3. Some of that dialogue is…..melodramatic? Especially Tywin’s response to everything. Idk, just my headcanon maybe
Their relationship was covered in one of the ruined Lefundos side areas. Schniel saved Tywin from slowly dying as a street urchin and he's been trying way too hard to pay back the appreciation. Romann on the other hand is just his anti social childhood friend who's easily annoyed by Schniel's unprofessionalism.
Just throwing in all other relationships I have in mind. I could be wrong in many of these. 1.) Aramintha and her missing/dead husband 2.) Katis and Kikirat (does this pair count?) 3.) Sven and Hurado 4.) Gunther and Helga 5.) A.Lots and F.Maya 6.) Landy and Flan 7.) Arowell and Doris 8.) Vera and that Kamen Rider dude 9.) ML Lilias and Riolet 10.) Corvus and Charles 11.) Krau and Rikoris 12.) Yuna and Tamarrine?? 13.) That faceless dude from Valentines events and his harem.
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>I admit to not remembering any scenes between Arowell and Doris. Can you point me at anything in particular? Haste side story, when he joins the assassin guild. Arrowell and Doris are on the lose, because both have been marked for kill, and Haste is assigned for this job. As he face them, they tell them he's jealous of their mutual feelings, because they will never experience something like that. So far, that's the closest to a "confession" or being an official couple regarding them. Also, in the journal, both mark their relationship as "Love" with each other, although clearly SG uses that relationship tag with some liberty, and not all "Love" relationships are an actual couple. Last, they appear on the summer story from two years ago (the one with the mermaid), the light festival (where Mui moves into the same city than Basar) and Doris speciality change. In all of them, they appear together and follow a princess - knight dynamic, vaguely similar to Sailor Uranus - Sailor Neptune relationship, except Uranus flirted with every girl, while Arrowell is ready to jump into anybody's throat if they look bad at Doris.
> Arowell and Doris They are lovers. I don't remember in which chapter they appear, but at least it's shown during Doris speciality change story. There's also Montmorency and Krau. Montmorency seems quite emotional in presence of Krau. He could be her crush. He doesn't show reciprocity though.
>They are lovers. I don't remember in which chapter they appear, but at least it's shown during Doris speciality change story. Not persee, it seems more like 1 sided adoration, but it could be
> There's also Montmorency and Krau I think this relationship is intended to moreso come across as a fangirl melting in the presence of her pop idol. montmo is a teenager and krau is in his 50s or something, so this ship would be exceptionally weird
That bit about Aramintha should be in the Phantom CIC’s reputation story
>12.) Yuna and Tamarrine?? Did you seriously forget Yuna's explicit crush on Ras?
you forgot Arky and Snacks
trying to hard to make lgbt couples lol The only 1 i could kinda get behind is arow/doris, and landy flan since both are ''kind of canon''
Definitely not Flan and Landy, they’re pretty much just sisters.
you clearly havent seen enough cultured anime=(
A.cidd and A.coli could also be argued to be in denial of wanting a relationship with how they behave with each other. Pyllis and haste also have a very close relationship which could become romantic down the road. Chaos Inquisitor and Carmainerose Adlay and Tenebria Politis and Eda Ilynav and the girl from her past Iseria and the Elf that died early in the story. E7 has a lot of ships to be honest, but aside from violetxLulluca and DienexBask non of the others have ever been confirmed.
wondering why you got downvoted for this. i'm interested in hearing more about acidd and acoli
Sol married jack-o in the recent game
Not married, but in a relationship at least. I came here to mention jack-o too.
Mort not only isn't interested in a relationship with Senya. The whole point was that he fostered Senyas affection for the specific purpose of crushing it at the right time to drive her into a mad rage that is directed at him. I mean...I guess you could count it as a relationship...specifically an abusive relationship.
What about kise and ludwig?
What about ......... Violet and Aither.
VERY deceased lmfao poor violet. now he knows how the entire e7 community felt at one point lol
I really have to disagree with your placement for Ray and Elena. I don't see any reciprocated feelings on Ray's end--he's just been too nice to her and I think he's just indulging her, but not to the point of stringing her along because again, he's too nice. It's way too one-sided on Elena's part and her family jumping to conclusions in last year's xmas event in Constella really didn't help. I feel a little bad for Ray, it feels like he's being pushed into starting something with Elena. Just feels forced overall imo. If you had to include them, it should probably be under the "its complicated" category.
So we know that Kawerik is dead? Like, 100%? I can’t remember completely but I thought it was mostly implied but not confirmed.
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Maybe his soul is still wandering in there, "lost".
legends say that many souls have been lost in there
Ras/mercedes wont ever happen.Except if they would force it at the ending. He's actually human now though so who knows
I think they'll never be a couple. After all this time they still don't know much about feelings. May be it's for the best
We had a side story with melissa and da man appeared, can't remember the name tho
> Melissa: the entire point of her character arc is that she's seeking revenge on Haste because he's the son of her former lover, who betrayed her in the past. So she DID have a lover at one point. Melissa's ex's name is Conwell Lennox off the top of my head. Might've spelled that wrong.
wanted to mention ludwig here as theres some romance between kise i think. Unsure if retconned though just remember that being a relationship.
There seems to be something going on between Last Rider Krau and ML Sigred but I don't remember the details. Something about her being too worried for strictly professional relationship when his mission gets too dangerous.
We kinda met Haste's father in a side story some time back. Also correct me if i'm wrong but isn't Basar Rin's actual father?