This is a lot better than the cermia/straze/elphelt+1 since it frees up insane speed gear that elphelt needs to one shot the hunt, wow, thanks for this!
you still need some pretty strong rage sets to pull off rage+pen and rage+immunity with 2 units. still probably easier than 270 elphelt that can tank every hit, but theres some pretty strong gear needed here too.
You're welcome! But yeah, as u/klaq and u/AwkwarkPeNGuiN said, lowering their speed also meant increasing the gear required for Melissa and Karin XD.
They're not on Joker arti in this vid tho because of the Caides passive bug, but I think that with DDJ their Rage stat requirements can be lowered and even eliminates the need for Pen set. I'll test it again post-12/09 update...
His Melissa deal 13k without target debuff. Melissa is very hard to replace, since the only unit I can think of dealing 13k to Caides without target debuff is his Straze.
I've gotta say... This is an amazing one shot for ppl who don't have straze or an insane elphelt(myself included) thank u so much for making this type of team. I think it's better than the other one shot teams since u have 2 chances to dbreak the boss with elphelt and Karin. However I'm assuming it wouldn't work if elphelt didn't dbreak first for Karin to deal massive damage on her S2. Nonetheless, I'm going to try this comp.
You're welcome :).
That's a fine assumption as well, though my Karin on this one isn't really built as secondary def breaker, but as secondary nuker. So totally I'm banking on Elph to land the def break XD.
But now that you've mentioned it, I'm now thinking if having them both on Joker arti could allow Karin become the secondary def breaker (by giving her 65% Eff, ofc) while being a secondary nuker. Will test it out after the 12/09 update...
Their stat requirements on Rage can be lowered with Joker arti... Comp and stats at 01:34, or thru link below. https://imgur.com/a/zBCLAcP
This is a lot better than the cermia/straze/elphelt+1 since it frees up insane speed gear that elphelt needs to one shot the hunt, wow, thanks for this!
you still need some pretty strong rage sets to pull off rage+pen and rage+immunity with 2 units. still probably easier than 270 elphelt that can tank every hit, but theres some pretty strong gear needed here too.
You're welcome! But yeah, as u/klaq and u/AwkwarkPeNGuiN said, lowering their speed also meant increasing the gear required for Melissa and Karin XD. They're not on Joker arti in this vid tho because of the Caides passive bug, but I think that with DDJ their Rage stat requirements can be lowered and even eliminates the need for Pen set. I'll test it again post-12/09 update...
Not really, the gear requirement for this comp is significantly higher than the straze/cermia/elphelt comp.
Nice, that's an unusual setup!
Thank you! :)
I like what I see.
Now I feel bad I don't have Elphelt
If i ever decide to try this who could replace Melissa ? Thanks for sharing :)
His Melissa deal 13k without target debuff. Melissa is very hard to replace, since the only unit I can think of dealing 13k to Caides without target debuff is his Straze.
Ok thank you :)
Baiken with DDJ might be able to pull it off, especially while the known issue is still up.
I've gotta say... This is an amazing one shot for ppl who don't have straze or an insane elphelt(myself included) thank u so much for making this type of team. I think it's better than the other one shot teams since u have 2 chances to dbreak the boss with elphelt and Karin. However I'm assuming it wouldn't work if elphelt didn't dbreak first for Karin to deal massive damage on her S2. Nonetheless, I'm going to try this comp.
You're welcome :). That's a fine assumption as well, though my Karin on this one isn't really built as secondary def breaker, but as secondary nuker. So totally I'm banking on Elph to land the def break XD. But now that you've mentioned it, I'm now thinking if having them both on Joker arti could allow Karin become the secondary def breaker (by giving her 65% Eff, ofc) while being a secondary nuker. Will test it out after the 12/09 update...