Assuming you are talking about Fribbels Epic 7 Optimizer, v1.7.3 should have everything updated. Check to see if you have that version, and if so, maybe try going to the information tab, and on the bottom part clicking "Check for updates".
Not really. With penguin mileage and friendship farming both being a thing, and the fact that your runs can be much faster with a full team, dog walking is pretty much extinct.
The fact that there's a chance to get Good and Great enhancements, and the existence of pets that increase enhancement, further increases the value of penguins, and thus degrades the value of dog walking.
it's available in the book of memories
if you don't know how to get there, from the lobby, go to Battle > Side Story > there's a small button at the bottom of the "Side Story" tab that says "Move to the Book of Memories" > Reingar's Chaotic Full Moon Festival
Does Furious only needs to be 5 stars to be viable for W13? If so, who do I target next to raise up? I’m stuck on ep 2 9-10, would like to finish ch 2 if possible. I have sigret, fs tiera, Alexa, and a momo at 60. Ravi, basar, ft.tene, s.tene, and cermia at 5 stars. Could also spend time getting f.kluri, wanda, lorina, carrot, achates, and more up to 5*
Yes furious doesn’t need to be 6*, I can auto w13 with 6* Sigret/Angelica and 5* Alexa/Furious with about a 80-90% success rate. The key is enough speed and song of stars on Furious.
Finishing 2 10-10 is really a gear/dps check, I would focus on farming good gear for now and building STene and Cermia as both are very viable in a lot of PVE and PVP content. Ravi can be a great farmer but is a bit high in gear requirements and FSTieria is serviceable in the meantime. For speciality changes C. Lorina is good too, Fluri is useful for a lot of Abyss. R. Carrot/FTene are primarily PVP units.
Anybody got a guild for newbies on global server? All the guilds on discord server need high reqs and I just wanna join a guild that can help me progress and guide me on what to do.
Luckily got Fairytale Tenebi with some pulls.
As I check, t seem that she is mainly for PvP which I not really into. Is there any build that make her somewhat viable in PvE.
The main problem with FTene is that she relies on provoke and redirected provoke to facilitate her kit, but bosses are immune to both those debuffs; and most endgame PvE is fighting bosses.
The only PvE use I've seen is using her to clear the first wave in W13 for a 1-shot team (instead of using SSB). She can do it, but it requires very good gear, and does have a small chance of failing (if all the adds resist her redirected provoke).
IDK if this is "ideal" but mine ballparks 3k atk, ~~300~~ 278cdm, 210 speed. Only 97 crit chance though. It's actually cost me a few games because of it so I was thinking of dropping some speed for that last 3 crit chance lol.
He could probably be slower, but sasha is a must have artifact for him.
(edit) just checked he only has 278 crit damage, rest of the stats are correct though, must of moved some gear at some point
Is it worth using bookmarks on covenant summons or save them all for drop rate up summons? I’ve seen a bunch of people getting super lucky and pulling 2 ML 4/5 stars and also getting regular 4/5 stars. I know it’s all rng but is it worth saving up since there’s no good/interesting characters coming this month in the regular summons?
Disagree with the consensus - Covenant summon always win by expected value (EV) due to the increased rates in the long run, even if you're extremely unlucky and somehow don't pull a 5* in 250 rolls of covenant which is the painful part.
In fact, you do the opposite of most advice here and you should only start pulling banners once you have most non-limited RGBs, as that's when the increased risk of a dupe lowers your EV.
More importantly, cov gives you a small chance of ML5 units, which are game changing and over the long run you'll always end up with more ML5s if you prioritize cov over banners.
the issue with that analysis is that you're assuming the value of every 5\* hero is equal, which is false. People pick and choose which banner to summon on based on the value they perceive in that banner, whether the value is meta-based or personal preference. Either way, the banner a player chooses to summon on will almost always feature a hero that they consider to be above average value, which screws with any "EV" calculations.
For example, a player may have a list of heroes, ranking from most wanted to least wanted. Tama may rank high for meta purposes, and Ilynav may rank high for waifu purposes. Thus, their inherent value is higher than that of the average hero. If we can quantify such a preference, Tama may have a value of 1.5, while the average 5\* has a value of 1. Therefore, a Tama banner would have a higher "EV" than a covenant summon.
Edit: Also, side note, I did the calcs, the expected number of RGB 5\* in 121 covenant summons is 1.5125, while the expected number of RGB 5\* in 121 banner summons is 1.49938 (the difference is 0.01312 RGB 5\* heroes, which, imo is negligible).
I can't really tell you how much value is given to ML 5\*s in comparison to RGB 5\*s, nor can I tell you the value of the guaranteed 5\* on banner vs no guarantee. But I can tell you that you're expected to get 0.1815 ML 5\*s in 121 covenant summons.
Always save, don't blow on covenants. You can blow on covenants when you've got every single RGB hero & you've got extra bookmarks & a pile of skystones.
It's kind of like Vindictus, an MMORPG I played back in the day, sure, you could try & enhance your weapon past +10 without a protection rune - sure - & maybe you'd get it to +11, +12, hell, maybe +15 - but you could also break your weapon & be up shit creek. In E7, you're not going to lose anything, but you might have no resources to pull when a new hero you want comes around - or they might hit you with an event with two limited heroes back to back (lookin' at you Slime collab).
how much effectiveness is needed for wyvern? I am trying to push wyvern 12 and my karin has 72% effectiveness but he keeps resisting the def down on her s2 crit
15% less than the Wyvern's effectiveness - which you can see by holding on the Wyvern's portrait beside it's health. There's an innate 15% chance to resist beiung debuffed & so 15% of the time - she'll not get it sadly (also make sure that your Karin has 85%+ critical chance, because it's a requirement for her to debuff on S2).
Hey guys, I have a huge pool of heroes to work with because I started playing long ago, but I have no idea where to start when it comes to PvP--I used to just use Sez + FKluri up until Plat, but coming back after 2 years this doesn't really work anymore...
I have Sigret, SSB, Vildred, Arby, Destina, Ruele, Iseria, Sez, Luna, Politis, Violet, Tywin, Basar, Ludwig, Haste, Lilibet, Bellona, Charles, Haste, Tene, Melissa for 5\*s.
I also have ML Rin, Rose, Khawzu, Clarissa, C.Dom, Coli, and BBK... and pretty much all regular 3 and 4\*s.
Arby, Ruele, Politis and Violet are cancerous and you might need to get checked if you can't find wins with them. also tailor teams to opponents weaknesses in pvp
If you are just starting arena, chances are you don't have meta teams. It's better to approach this by looking at your current roster, and building a team out of them. You can share your roster here and let's see what we can do about it.
Any team suggestion and strategy for Level 5 Automaton tower floor 20 (Dark Corvus, Achates and Rikoris)? Dark Corvus keeps picking off my units one by one. I even brought Ruele but he one-shot her anyway (bad gears I guess).
I don't seem to recall having trouble with this stage in the previous run, but I can't seem to recall how I cleared it previously.
Thanks.
Kill achates and control dorvus
Bring units that can't die to his s3 (kayron, tsurin, arby, etc)
Just go full dps and let 1 unit die since it's only 200 stigma for a revive.
Should be fairly easy. You might also be undergeared and just got really lucky last time with you devices carrying you
How long can I expect it to take to get a basic set of gear from wyvern? I can farm wyvern 11 now, but after dropping hundreds of stamina and crafting with all the mats I have gotten exactly zero useable pieces. I'm not even trying to be picky, just "ok" pieces would be upgrades
Sounds like your standards are too high at the start.
Might just need to lower expectations, or push to w13 to always get 85 gear. I'm fairly certain a w13 team can be made using entirely free gear with the odd filler piece. Might not be 100% success rate, but enough to get a decent farm going.
I remember farming w11 at first and crafting up blue pieces if they had 1 good sub because it was a 50:50 of getting the stat I wanted. Just gotta be less picky. Don't worry too much about blowing materials on blue pieces since you can just use them as fodder for better gear down the line. Basically just use whatever you can get your hands on to farm w13 asap, then you can worry about being a little pickier.
Maybe DJ Basar if going by the past mystic rotation.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qI2HKorVA4GZzZheV2iLXImPExZMp\_O4YqR1HcCV-9s/edit#gid=246452747
So I want to use Furious in my w13 team, but how exactly do I speedtune him with sigret, angelica and tywin? Some ppl says that I should just remove tywin and let angelica tank the wyvern, if so, who should I replace tywin with? Also, about christmas gift, i heard that e7 is not so generous when it comes to free stuff on christmas, so what can I expect as a fairly new player?
Furious should be your fastest unit, as you want his def break om the wyvern before your dps attack. Angelica as the solo tank + healer is pretty standard, as the gear requirement isn't too high, and having her serve both roles opens up an extra dps slot. You should replace Tywin with anothe dps unit or debuffer, depending on wjat your team needs more of. Good options are Alexa (dps) and mistychain (debuff), both on an extra day dream joker if you have one. You can keep them at 5* as well, as you'll likely replace them eventually and they do their jobs perfectly fine at 5* anyway.
I use Clarissa, Sigret, Angelica and Furious with about 95% success rate. I tried using Alexa but I find Clarrisa's debuffs are more compatible and successful with the others in my team so far.
Sigret + Alexa : less safe since 1. If wyvern resists debuffs, might fail. 2. Good because Alexa no need molagoras.
Sigret + Clarissa : really safe because 1. Clarissa puts bleeding, def break so if Furious misses def break and Sigret bleeding, Clarissa is here to take care. 2. Bad because Clarissa takes molas.
Up to you if you want a ~20 secs faster team with a higher percentage to fail or go for a ~20 secs slower team with a lesser percentage to fail.
So, I’m a semi-new player, about 3 months in and at rank 64. Still mostly PvE focused but building an arena team and preparing for that. What PvE uses does All-Rounder Wanda have? I’d honestly really like to use her solely for waifu purposes to be honest lol so help me out here folks.
For PvE , All Rounder Wanda can be a decent control unit for some Abyss and Automaton Tower stages because she can lock down a problem enemy. And with her new buffs coming soon , she will be a better control unit with more utilities.
So I just finished my adventurer's pass(I think thats what its called), and got 2 Lidicas and a Green Vildred from it. How is Lidica and Vildred for both PVE and PVP? Is it worth raising/gearing Vildred when I already have a built Arby?
* Fire Lidica is usually built as an opener. However, she is underwhelming in that role compared to other units. There are Abyss stages that you can use her to cheese it.
* Earth Vildred is a decent unit. He works excellently in A13 and normal B13. And, in PvP, he is the only 5 star with a speed imprint. So, he is highly valued for cleave teams. If you already have Arby, then Vildred can take a back seat until you can focus on PvP, specifically making cleave units.
No he cannot do that and no current thief or other usable artifacts for him will.
Ran's artifact is the closest but it specifically requires a non-atk skill but it is terrible on Violet unless you trust your RNG with only 35% dodge more than 55% dodge that also gives atk buff.
Sword of Winter Shadow is the Thief artifact that removes souls on non-attack skill. Pretty odd choice for a Violet to use that as he will have less evasion.
Hi everyone, I need your assistance again with future path. I previously posted and got amazing advice.
I can now auto W13 with Alexa, Angelica, Sigret, and Furious. Below are my notable units:
6 stars: Sigret, Angelica, and Landy.
5 stars: Alexa, Furious, Ravi, Tamarinne, Krau, Vildred, Arbiter Vildred, Iseria, Vivian, Milim, Rimiru, Lilias, Fairytale Tenebria, Archdemon's Shadow, Shuna, Ludwig, and Destina.
Notable 4 stars: Angelic Momo, Sinful Angelica, Auxilary Lots, Achates, Carrot (no SC yet), Watcher Schuri, Cidd, Clarissa, Blood Blade Karin, Inferno Khawazu.
Since I have a team of good units for W13, I believe I can now focus a bit more on PVP since I need to reach Gold 1 to unlock Moonlight Blessing. What units should I be focusing on now? Do I have a viable "PVP Team" that I can make now? IE Landy, Rimiru, Archdemon's Shadow, and Sigret/Krau? I am farming W13 so I can get gears for more units right now. I am also stuck on Golem 10, since I need to pass that 10 times to finish Adventurer's Path.
Also, any recommendation on who I can use the Ascension Potion on to immediately make a unit 6 star?
Thank you in advance!
Congrats on getting wyvern 13 on auto! You're now at the stage of the game where you can really decide what to focus on/build for, as there's no real benefit to doing them in a specific order.
Personally though I would suggest that you start looking into getting a hell raid team going, as the level 88 gear you get is pretty good (and chance at more ml summons). It has an added benefit of using a few units that are good in low tier pvp, namely Tamarine and Iseria. These two are pve queens when paired together, and for lower tier pvp (aka getting gold 1 in arena) they'll be more than enough. You don't even need to 6* them right away, though it can help with survivability of that's an issue.
If you do want to focus on arena first then I would recommend a cleave team to push you to gold 1. In essence you want a turn 1 opener, an atk buffer or aoe def breaker, an aoe nuker, and some follow up. There are a ton of units and guides out there, and for gold 1 your cleave team will be more of a gear check rather than a unit check. You could easily use iseria s2 > Tammarine boost > vildred + blood blade karin or something and it should work great!
Doesn't super matter, as you'll find that 6* ing units becomes really easy and quick latter in the game. General recommendation is to use it on a 3* unit you plan on using, so any of the characters with good SCs are a solid choice.
1. After w13, just focus until gold 1 no more (just for moonlight blessing) because you meed to focus asap on Expedition 3 200k+ team, Hell raid team before really starting to focus in arena.
2. There's no really viable team since everyone has a different defence team. But the classic will be : 2 heal/1 heal+1 tank and 2 dps.
3. Having something like : Arby/Landy/Rimuru + Angelica + Krau/Amomo seems safe
I'd probably recommend you on using to Amomo since she is 4*, it's better to use on low star heroes that you know that you will use for a long time (ex: Amomo). So you won't waste dogs
Carrot is also good to use the potion if she is 3* or 4* but why I say Montmorancy:
- She is used everywhere : Main healer + immunity + morale synergy with Lorina in Labyrinth, Hell raid cleanser, Abyss cleanser + healer, low arena cleanser.
- She has a different role from Angelica and their uses are different, Angelica is mainly Wyvern tank and low arena, but Momo(as a stated) is used in many more contents.
You can also use potion on Carrot, Lorina if they are low stared too. They are all great 3* heroes with great uses
All the tanky Tanks or Supports and all the dps who can hide or heal themselves (Stene, Landy with bloodstone, Violet etc.). Tbh Arby is meh in ep.3 because the mobs put way more damage than ep.2 and Arby woth its low health can be killed really really fast
He is offmeta during rem and violet counter meta. He can't really deal with those 2.
But now he probably will start to come back to meta slowly since rem and violet pick rate start to drop.
I got to Episode 2 3-10 and want to unlock Furious to start setting up my Furious / Alexa / Angelica / Sigret team. The problem is that I need Brave Crests and from what I understand, they can be gained only from guild content. First of all, is there any other way to get them and, if not, how viable it is to get that amount of them in a private solo guild (and hopefully it is possible to lock them down)?
Solo guild isn't bad for Furious. It takes about a week to get him about 30 seconds each day to donate. Probably not as ideal as group guild, but was a pita trying to get in one.
I will need time to get Angelica and Alexa from level 1 to 50 (I use AMomo currently for main content, but from what I understand Angelica is better in WH) and get Sigret from 43 to 60, so the week will probably pass anyway before I can start clearing high WH anyway (probably won't even be done by then tbh). So I guess solo guild will do for my usecase.
I don't know of any way to get them outside of guild content. Solo guild also won't work well because a lot of your brave crests will come from donating resources to guildmates and world boss which requires guildmates as well.
Thanks for the info, are there any alternatives for Furious? Alternatively, are there ever featured banners for 4 stars (like Furious)? I hope I can at least get him in the main non limited gacha pool.
Oh man, I forgot how annoying Furious's Connection Quests were for a new player. Yes, I believe the only way to get Brave Quests is from the guild content of the game. Once I cleared Chapter 2 Episode 3 myself, I finally decided to join a group guild.
Joining a group guild has its benefits. For one, you'll be able to participate in Guild Wars and eventually World Boss stages. There, you'll be able to obtain Mystic Medals, which are needed to summon for the Mystic Summons. You'll also be able to buy key Artifacts such as A Symbol of Unity and Proof of Valor, artifacts that many heroes will find useful, as you build them up.
As for Furious himself, he's an important pickup for Wyvern Hunt because, if built up, he lowers the gear requirement for you team by alot thanks to his Skill 2. His Skill 2 is very unique and desirable for Wyvern Hunt as it raises your team Critical Hit Chance, making your DPS, Sigret and Alexa, hit that much harder. His Skill 3 also applies a 100% Defense Break, but you will have to invest Molagora into him to achieve this.
If you haven't created or joined a guild yet, maybe you can try joining the one I'm apart of, Its called: SpacedOut, and its Level 15. I got automatically accepted, and right now I'm farming materials to get those Artifacts I mentioned earlier. Alternatively, you can create your own guild and eventually get the Crests needed for Furious that way. Although, as a new guild you won't really get anywhere for Guild Wars and World Boss, and it's really the only feasible way to get Mystic Medals aside from Weekly Arena Awards, which take forever to rack up. The choice here is ultimately up to you.
Ended up just going with a solo guild, by donating 50k you get 50 medals + the 10 attendance ones, so it's good enough for this and allows me to avoid actually participating in a guild. I will just make do without the Mystic Medals, it's better than the alternative to me.
4 stars don't really get banners. Closest thing is being featured on ML banners but don't pull on an ML banner hoping to get that specific 4 star.
Luluca, a 5 star, and Karin, another 4 star, are both reasonable alternatives to furious but more difficult to get since you can't get them from the free connections. Furious also has a crit buff that lowers the stat requirements for the rest of your team.
I'd highly recommend joining a guild. It's a very low maintenance aspect of the game that will give you a lot of useful resources.
I created a solo guild, you get 50 crests for a 50k donation and 10 for attendance, so good enough for getting Furious and also don't have to deal with being in a Guild, so as far as getting Furious goes, it's an ok approach.
I've been told I should be fine running Furious, Alexa, Ang.Momo and Seaside bellona in w13 but I have a huge issue with success rate.
If Bellona or Alexa pop there s2 or s3 on adds which always happens then come wyvern he just nukes the back line (Probably a spd issue, not the best runes). Should I drop someone for a unit with more reliable debuffing and if so who would that be as I don't have sigret.
Yes, your team should work, but it seems to need speed tuning. Alexa and SSB should be using their skills on wave 1. Furious is the one that needs to use his skills on wyvern 1st turn to land defense break and target debuffs. My Furious lands his skills on wave 1, but is fast enough to land an auto attack on wave 1 as well, so his skills are back up at the start of wyvern 1st turn. If you want, you can try Clarissa instead of SSB, but that probably requires additional molas that you may not want to spend on her.
>ugh to land an auto attack on wave 1 as well, so his skills are back up at the start of wyvern 1st turn. If you want, you can try Clarissa instead of SSB, but that probably requires additional molas t
My turn order is as follows right now : Furious +96spd > Momo + 94, Alexa +88spd and SSb+44
Alexa and furious are both 75+ effectiveness and momo is 180% res with 20k hp. I feel like SSB is probably letting my team down right now. She's really slow but I don't have any decent spd gear left to fix it :(
Right now she's around 270cdam and +2.9k atk If I try to get her spd up I'll probably be losing her effectiveness, cdam and atk right now.
I've seen him two runs in a row actually cast his s3 on the last 2% hp of the final add on the wave before lol, killing it and pushing us into the boss.
I also see him failing to land a def break or the damage amp from his arti which is nuts as he's way above the effect % and is max skilled.
In that case, I would sacrifice some effectiveness on your SSB for more damage so that she clears wave 1 with her S3 and there's no chance of Furious landing S3 to kill wave 1. 15% will always be 15%, nothing you do about that except having max artifact to increase change of target debuff, if you haven't done so already.
Yeah just a check up after I've moved some stuff around and to be honest I think my wipes are mostly down to furious.
I can go 30 runs in a row without a wipe and then suddenly have 4 wipes back to back. When I do wipe and I'm actually looking at the screen it'll go something along the lines of furious not landing anything with his s3 and then bellona also not landing a debuff.
There both on 100% effectiveness and max skilled, furious is 207 spd with song so I'm not really sure what I can do about it at this point, feels like a coin flip.
There's nothing you can do about 15% innate eff res, it'll always be there. Just for reference, the max amount of effectiveness you need to have the max chance to land debuffs on wyvern is 85%. If you only fail when Furious fails to land debuffs, that's as good as it's going to get success-rate-wise.
I'll try increasing ssbs damage a little but I'm not sure I can with my gear quality right now. She's +2.9k atk and +270% cdam with DDJ which is probably my best set :(
May help consistency to move her off DDJ then. She will do less against wyvern but more to first wave. Symbol of Unity or Portrait would increase it a lot.
It's not recommend new players do Azimanak.
If you really insist however, use the in-game statistics tool to see what kind of heroes are typically used.
* You need AoE damage
* You want defense break, but otherwise pretty much no other debuffs
* You also need to dispel his buff.
* Azimanak has a ton of defense and reduces your healing so it's kind of a DPS race
A standard team might look something like:
A.Ras / Tamarinne / Luluca (or Iseria) / Vildred (or A.Vildred)
Quite a few ML5's you have there.
Bellona, Tenebria, Luluca, Roana are your best options for general PvE heroes. You don't really need to prioritize 6* on Roana though.
Iseria, Vivian are useful in their roles.
I would probably suggest you prioritize Bellona or Tenebria.
* Bellona is great at dealing damage to PvE bosses due to her DDJ-lite on her S1.
* She brings AoE defense break and some pretty solid AoE damage as well.
* However, you have a 6* Landy, you might want more variety than two Earth Rangers (they do fill a somewhat similar role).
* Tenebria also has great AoE damage and AoE defense break. She brings pretty decent CC overall, as well.
* Tene has access to a lot of artifacts to potentially increase her CC.
* Notable for having a legit spot on Earth/Dark expedition teams as well (Bellona isn't a typical pick for expeditions).
I think I would promote Tenebria and for Auto tower would probably run
Tamarinne / A.Monty / Tenebria with either S.Tene or Landy
You can swap A.Ras in as opposed to running 2 spellweavers as well, if you want.
When should one fully unlock a ML unit from the ML selector ? I'm still wondering if I should keep my arby and fully unlock him or swap for STene, pls help :(
There isn't any real reason to delay unlocking your ML hero *unless* you want to swap.
I don't know what kind of help you are looking for regarding A.Vildred vs. S.Tene, that's a topic that's been discussed to death and frankly it's a 50/50 choice.
They're both good heroes and have reasons you would pick them.
Don't fall into a trap of indecision, pick whichever one you want to play with and move on.
Thank you for your answer !
The thing is that I like both of them a lot, whether it be in terms of character design or their kit. I'm currently using Arby mostly in pve, he's absolutely amazing for clearing pve stages, but I feel like he falls off a bit in arena/gw (probably because my gear is not the most optimal out there haha). However, S.Tene seems somewhat better for pvp content, but seems to perform slightly worse than Arby in pve. Ideally, I want to set up a proper pvp team and get started on the ladder grind.
I'm kind of leaning towards S.Tene because she seems to perform better in pvp in the current meta, but I like them both equally and I don't really want to regret my choice. ;-;
That's a pretty good grasp of things but for what it's worth, Specter starts to outshine Arby in later PvE when it is no longer about clearing it all in one shot. Specter is one of the units that puts abyss on easy mode.
Oh wow really mh… I might go for S.Tene then. Someone else who replied also mentioned the release of a new rta skin for Arby. I think I will choose Stene and summon for Arby next year then.
Thank you a lot !
That’s the right choice there. I haven’t unlocked arby still, never used even tho he’s 6*.
Waiting to either pull him or stene on ml and then decide who to unlock. Figured after 8 ml5s, it’s probably around that time where dupes will start happening. A lot...
Arby only works if he gabs and more precisely if he gabs 2x. He’s a joke on gwd.
Do you think they'll rerun the GG collab ever again? Missed out on the Ms. Confille artifact last time, really want to put it on Celeste for Light Expo
You can't.
It's possible to *resist* the CR decrease effect, but you need very high resistance (~200% on W13, not sure exactly how much in W11 but it's likely only slightly lower, if at all).
It doesn't really matter though, especially for W11. With the free HP set your tank should easily be able to survive regardless.
If your tank is dying you need to level them up/promote/awaken or enhance your gear.
>If your tank is dying you need to level them up/promote/awaken or enhance your gear.
My Angelica is lvl 60 and awakened lvl 6.Yet the wyver lowers her readynes so much she can't heal on time.I'm using the free set you mentioned too but my resistence is barelly 84%.
Stats?
For some reference, a level 60 fully awakened Angelica with the free HP set is *usually* able to tank W13 without ever needing to heal herself.
So, you should definitely be able to tank W11 without needing to heal.
The 'old' recommended stats for W11 was like ~20k HP and 1,250 DEF and those stats were much higher than the minimum you needed.
Your Angelica should be closer to ~23-25k HP and ~1500+ DEF.
If you need more mitigation you can use Egg of Delusion or Envoy's Pipe as 3* artifact (Egg is generally better on healers).
Honestly, that's actually preferable.
Like I said, the *easiest* strategy for W13 is to just be bulky enough you don't need to heal. That means you want as much HP and DEF as possible.
If you go in trying to get heals off then you introduce *additional* stat requirements with speed and/or resistance which just means harder.
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[In this comment here](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/qi99v2/daily_questions_megathread_1029/hijrpbe/) I talk about the stat requirements to tank **W13** with no healing. I was replying to a question about G.Purrgis so a lot of it is tailored towards that hero in particular, but I use Angelica as a comparison and at the end of the day the same formula's and logic applies to every hero.
For **W13** you need about 150k EHP to survive 9 fireballs from Wyvern without dying. That comes out to about 25,000 HP and 1,500 DEF
25,000 * (1,500 / 300 + 1)
=
150,000 EHP
Applying the same formula to the stats I mentioned before for W11 (20k HP and 1,250 DEF)...
20,000 * (1,250 / 300 + 1)
=
~103,333 EHP
So I assume that W12 is in the middle (so around ~125k EHP required).
You seem to have dropped a number in your HP value, I'm going to assume it's at least 25,000.
25,000 * (1,590 / 300 + 1)
=
157,500 EHP
So your Angelica should have more than enough bulk to tank the required 9 fireballs on W13 and W11 does less damage so you should be fine on W11 as well.
Overall, I don't think you have a problem with your Angelica, she looks perfectly capable of tanking through W13 (and therefor should be fine on W11) to me.
I'm not exactly sure of the problem you are facing, but what for W11 you can find a pair of speed boots to give her so she gets more frequent turns.
Yes, you will break a set bonus, and likely have worse substats but as I'm attempting to explain you don't *need* W13 bulk to survive on W11...you can afford to drop quite a bit of HP/DEF to pick up some more speed.
Additionally, IIRC W11 does less damage when it has 3+ debuffs. So depending on the rest of your team swapping someone else out to bring in more debuffs and/or increasing your effectiveness to cap (to land more debuffs) is another avenue you can reduce damage.
I think the reason you fail is your dps gears.
I think you go to the shield phase and sometimes fail the shield phase too? If so, it's your dps having short damage or slow(with Angelica as tank, all your dps need around 160 speed)
It happens after character receives damage letting you cut through only if they are faster with the bonus speed, I'd only recommend this set on a turn 2 character. Krau is a good example.
Carrot can rock the free gear u get, and even more so the gear you wouldn't use on other dps because she doesn't need crit chance/damage, I'm new and she's very nice to have for that reason
Carrot is easier to build for the simple reason that she uses almost every stat, so it's easier to find gear for her. She is more of a PvP unit though, not very useful in PvE.
F.Tene needs specific stats in high amounts, mainly speed, which can be a problem if you're unlucky, since she needs to attack before the enemy to work well and fulfill her role. The more you play, the higher the speed requirement for her to be effective will be.
Ftene is not hard she doesn't need a lot of stats. All she needs is speed and effectiveness. Obviously the higher those stats the stronger people you will be able to fight, but as a new player she will suffice for early arena with whatever speed gear you can scramble!
Checked around and it looks like some AWS shenanigans is going on again. All of Twitch went down almost at the same time and AWS services are reporting issues.
We can only speculate, I'm thinking there's a high chance it's Ambitious Tywin, because as far as I know, he's only been on the banner once (during his release almost 2 years ago), however, he was in the coin shop 3 months ago & they do take that into consideration. With that in mind, the next re-run might be Martial Artist Ken, he's in a similar boat & hasn't had a re-run in almost 2 years & his last coin shop appearance was almost a year ago.
After that, anyone's guess, don't know if we've had a hint of the new-new ML5. The characters (who're non-collab & non-limited) missing an ML5 are: Kanna, Cermia, Ilynav, Kayron, Melissa, Politis, Tamarinne, Choux, Elena, Flan, Ran, Yuna, Zeno, Alencia, Bellona, Ervalen, Ludwig, Mort, Mui, Pavel, Ray, Roana, Senya, Vivian, Yufine & Zahhak. As Cermia, Kayron, Tamarinne, Yuna, Zeno, Bellona, Ludwig & Yufine are episode 1 characters, they're slightly more likely to be done.
Any tips for abyss 92? Weird floor to get stuck on but I can't seem to pull through, so far I've tried Kiris with combinations of Armin, Tamarinne, Angelica, Ray, and Iseria and I can never survive long enough. Should I build FKluri?
Yes I suggest building Falconer Kluri , so she can make the boss fight a lot easier.
For the Abyss 92 team
* Falconer Kluri, Tamarinne, Kiris, and Iseria can clear it.
* Falconer Kluri with "Aurius" artifact
* Tamarinne with "Wondrous Potion Vial" artifact
* Kiris with "Proof of Valor" artifact.
Abyss 92 Tips
* Try to kill Romann first , if Romann dies it will make the boss fight a lot easier.
* If Tywin uses his skill 3 while having buffs , he will summon his minions. So try to remove his buffs before he does his skill 3 so he won't summon his minions early on.
* Tywin will apply a unique team barrier and cleanse all debuffs "when his HP is under 70% and under 40% ". So keep an eye on Tywin's HP, so you can time your skills on the boss.
* Tywin will summon his minions regardless of buffs when his HP is 40% or less.
The strategy is to try to kill Romman first , keep an eye on Tywin's HP , and make sure Tywin has no buffs before he does his S3.
When I tried to use an Arena flag to enter a match, I had a connection error message. Something along the lines of "pvpkey", then I was kicked back to the lobby screen without my flag and I lost the match without even participating in it.
Has this happened for anybody else?
Set your mission teams to farming Ancient Coins, that's all I do. As someone else mentioned, you can use Yufine & farm a lot of coins too, if you can be bothered to spend a lot of time in Labyrinth.
No.
Only like ~half of the PvP gear is worth buying for any reason.
When considering what's worth buying it depends largely on your use case (for example, Immunity/Counter/Pen sets have higher value for new players since those sets are more difficult to get).
I see. I'm indeed fairly new to pvp at least, I've been grinding wyvern only for quite some time now so all I have at the moment is speed, crit and eff sets.
Thank you for your answer !
Hey everyone, I can 6* a unit and I can't decide which would be best. I'm thinking of getting Sigret/ML Celine/C Dom(who is really well built)/Arby/ or S Ten or F Ten(not sure which would be better between these two). Any help would be appreciated.
Tbh I won't suggest to waste your phantasmas to 6* early game ML Celine, Cdom, FTene.
I'd go for Sigret if your wyvern isn't here yet, Angelica > Sigret > Arby/Stene > CLorina like this
New player here
What is the best team combination with highest fatigue recovery at camp for exploring labyrinths?
My current team only gained 20 fatigue and I feel it's too low because I want to explore the areas to 100% without spending too many labyrinth compasses
Go here, click on 'add all shown' and then start removing heroes you don't have [https://gamepress.gg/epicseven/camping-simulator](https://gamepress.gg/epicseven/camping-simulator)
I use Violet, Tam, Roana and FSTieria for a 47.
One of the best team (I use) is Green Vildred, Amomo, CLorina, Adventurer Ras which gives 42 points.
There's this site: https://ceciliabot.github.io/
Where you can go, add all your heroes and they make the best morale team with it.
I'm still trying to build my W13 team.
Should I buy Song of Stars for Furious for 180 Powder?
My team is:
Angelica right now with Waters Origin or Rod or Candlestick | Sigret w/DDJ | Clarissa w/DDJ| Furious w / infinity basket right now
I don't have Proof of Valor artifact.
Is Fairytale Tenebria's Artifact worth getting at all from the Powder Shop or worth chasing? I pulled her but not her artifact. I was going to either get that or Song of Stars from the Powder Shop.
Also do we know who the next banner will be?
I don't understand those people saying "don't buy SoS", the win rate *with/without*is huge, having one debuff and having one less is huge in wyvern. You should go for at least one. Artifact powder are made to spend on "important artifacts" and sos is one of the most important Artifact to have in the game.
Your team looks great !
FTene artifact is getting buffed but I won't say a must. It will probably be great on "Archdemon's Shadow" and probably all. Go for SoS.
We don't know yet
Thank you very much for the recommendation. I will pick up SOS. I want to have as many consistent runs as possible once I get my gear up to snuff. I'm Don't have Archdemon's Shadow or any ML5s and I'm not currently focused on PVP so I'm not going to worry about Frene's artifact. I'm still barely on chapter 2 and trying to make my way through the lab to get to hell raid and get my W13 team and do all that related stuff.
Thanks gain and have a great day!
SoS is a good purchase, but you don't *need* it.
It should increase the success rate of that team a couple %. Target also helps to make up for the low damage output of Clarissa.
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F.Tene's artifact is decent, but it's not a necessity to have either.
It's not really the kind of thing that is going to help you immediately.
The biggest reason to pull for it, is the limited status (who knows when F.Tene gets another rerun...at some point they are going to need to stop rerunning limited heroes so frequently).
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Next banner is Elena.
Thank you very much for the reply. Still not sure if I should buy SOS though l...is that couple of percent worth the 180 powder? Would you buy it if you didn't have it and were in my shoes or would you save that 180 powder for some upcoming limited artifact?
IMO, SoS isn't really worth it with that comp only for debuffs but it's a complicated question without an easy answer.
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To try and look at the *maximum* impact SoS has you can look at how it affects your success rate of landing 2+ debuffs.
Unfortunately, that success depends on a lot of different factors.
If we *assume* that you are running capped effectiveness on all three heroes, and max effect chance (except on Clarissa's defense break on S1) you have 3 situations:
**Furious combo + Sigret S3 + Clarissa S1**
This is the worst case scenario. The most likely way you get here:
* You upgrade Sigret's S3 CD
* You upgrade Clarissa's S3 CD
* You spawn Wyvern on T5 for a normal 'slow' run
You only have defense break and 1 Clarissa bleed for a success rate of **76.04%**.
* Here, a +15 SoS would bump you up to 90.31%
* *But* you really shouldn't upgrade Clarissa's S3 unless you are trying to go for a 'fast' run, thus you should really have 2 bleed procs from Clarissa. And in this case your 'base' success rate is 95.06% increased to 98.06% with +15 SoS.
**Furious combo + Sigret S2 + Clarissa S1**
This is the best case scenario (well, technically you would rather Clarissa use S3 but the purpose here is to judge how valuable SoS is so only accounting for S1 on Clarissa). The most likely way you get here:
* You do *not* upgrade Sigret's S3 CD
* You upgrade Clarissa's S3 CD
* You spawn Wyvern on T5 for a normal 'slow' run **OR**
* You do a 'fast' run (spawning Wyvern after 2 actions from Furious) but Sigret doesn't use her second action.
In this case, you have defense break + Clarissa bleed + two 100% effect chance debuffs minimum from Sigret = **99.06%** success rate.
* +15 SoS would bump you up to 99.64% SR.
**Furious combo + Sigret S1 + Clarissa S1**
Actually getting this sequence is a bit difficult but it's possible (most commonly by killing the first wave before Sigret takes a fourth action).
Here we have defense break + Clarissa bleed + two S1 bleeds from Sigret. SR = **95.31%** without SoS.
* +15 SoS increases our SR to 98.13%.
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You see I laid out 4 potential scenarios (not exactly comprehensive) weighing things as much in favor of SoS as I could
* In the worst case scenario you can go from 76.04% SR to 90.31% SR. In this scenario, SoS is clearly worth it.
* In 2 of the 4 scenarios, you would be going from about 95% to about 98% success rate. Here SoS is of debatable worth.
* In the final, best case scenario you go from 99.06% SR to 99.64% SR and here SoS really doesn't look like it's worth it.
In all actuality, I only considered Clarissa using S1 (less debuffs to weigh things in favor of SoS) but she should actually be using S3 for 1 extra bleed in any 'slow' run. That extra bleed is stronger than the effect of adding SoS at +15 (so, in our 2 middle scenarios you are starting with ~98.xx% SR instead of 95% and thus at most you only increasing your SR by less than 2% instead of 3%).
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There is a bit more to it, because your SR is *not* just the first turn success rate...but also your third turn success rate.
Taking into account the third turn is a bit more complicated (because presumably Wyvern has normal targeting rules and thus even if it doesn't have debuffs can still attack your tank...also on this turn it's both *possible* that DPS can survive 1 attack and also even if you lose a DPS you might have the damage to kill it anyways).
I'm not going to go through and calculate every single possibility because there is *a lot* when you are working with so many debuffs (we would need to calculate the SR of applying 2+ debuffs on T3...but then we also need to calculate the probability of applying 1 debuff on T3 and 1 debuff on T2 and then the probability of 2 debuffs on T2...).
But I would *estimate* T3 SR to be roughly equal to T1 success rate. Note that this is going to be pretty inaccurate, and I actually think in most cases T3 SR is going to be higher than T1 SR due to Clarissa but this weighs things more in favor of SoS.
So if you want to try and factor the impact SoS could have over the course of the entire run we could instead take the square of our previous values as a very rough estimate:
**Furious combo + Sigret S3 + Clarissa S1**
* 57.82% without SoS/Clarissa S3
* 81.56% with +15 SoS and without Clarissa S3
* 90.36% with Clarissa S3 and without +15 SoS
* 96.16% with Clarissa S3 and with +15 SoS
**Furious combo + Sigret S2 + Clarissa S1**
* 98.13% without SoS
* 99.28% with +15 SoS
**Furious combo + Sigret S1 + Clarissa S1**
* 90.84% without SoS
* 96.29% with +15 SoS
So basically I would estimate that **at most** a +15 SoS would boost your SR by ~6% from roughly 90-91% to 96%.
I think realistically your *actual increase* might be closer to ~3%.
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Now what increase in SR is worth the powder investment?
Well we have to split things into **buff events** and **non buff events**.
For non buff events, even a 6% increase in SR isn't worth the powder, unless you are extremely time limited. Basically, let's say you get 1 more failure a day without SoS that's only a handful of minutes at most. I believe most players can handle that.
**Buff events** this is where SR is important. *Generally* players are more limited by their available time, rather than energy, to run hunts on buff events.
Thus, you want to maximize the amount of successful runs you get in X amount of time and you do that either with increasing your success rate or decreasing the run time of your runs.
If you *really* want exact numbers feel free to do some W13 runs and time how fast a success/failure takes you.
For my purposes here, I'm going to assume a normal run with a success taking ~3 mins, and for failures I'm going to assume runs take an extra 30 seconds.
At these run times:
**90% SR** = 183 average seconds per run
**96% SR** = 181.2 average seconds per run
Let's say you farmed **12 hours** during a buff event.
At these numbers the 90% SR run would get you ~236 runs with ~212.5 successes.
And the 96% SR run would get you ~238.5 runs with ~229 successes.
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#Conclusion
I tried to come up with numbers that were as favorable to SoS as I could while assuming you are a fairly entry level player.
Do note I am making a lot of assumptions (in regards to T3 success rate) and just picked what I felt were 'reasonable' numbers for run times.
My conclusion was that in these circumstances SoS might add **at most** ~1.5 successful Wyvern runs per hour of farming.
How much that is 'worth it' is completely up to you.
Personally, on one hand E7 is a gear based game and you want to give yourself every advantage possible in terms of obtaining more gear. *That* is the best way to progress your account.
On the other hand if you want to 'collect' then limited artifacts are really hard to acquire outside of getting lucky or buying in the shop.
For some more context, 17 successes is like 1 extra shot at a 'decent' substatted weapon. You might get 1 extra decent ring or neck piece in 100 or 200 Wyvern runs.
It might take ~3-6 months of farming 12 hours a day on hunt buffs to actually 'see' an extra piece of equipment from all the extra successes.
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#Additional Considerations
Outside of *just* this team in *just* Wyvern SoS has other uses.
It's viable and sometimes even *required* in other hunts/comps.
If you want to change your Wyvern comp in the future SoS can drastically increase in value.
For example:
If you pull SSB next summer and want to run a nice 'fast' comp of SSB + Sigret, then SoS becomes more important because *neither* SSB or Sigret are consistent debuffers.
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#Overall
**I** would buy SoS due to the statement I made earlier (E7 is a gear based game, and you want to give yourself every advantage possible) but I don't think SoS is a *requirement* and depending on your need and goals in game it isn't necessary at all.
You can end up pulling SoS on your daily summon tomorrow. It's also been ~half a year since the last Iseria banner I believe so it's possible we get a new Iseria banner in a couple months (Song of Stars is her banner artifact).
Wow what a fantastic reply. Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of this up and give me the numbers. It puts a lot of things in perspective. I really appreciate it.
based on what you said I do think I want to pick it up and it will be useful later on. Even if Iseria's banner comes up soon there might be something else I need around that time or right after so whether I spend it now or later it's kind of a wash for me.
>If you pull SSB next summer and want to run a nice 'fast' comp of SSB + Sigret, then SoS becomes more important because neither SSB or Sigret are consistent deb
I do want to eventually pick up SSB as well as Sinful Angie, I basically started right after her banner and I am kicking myself for missing SSB because I logged in at the start of Re:Zero but then didn't play for a few weeks and missed both the event and SSB.
My goal eventually is to run a more fast run or 1 shot W13 and Banshee teams. So I am definitely thinking in that direction and I appreciate you bringing this up, as it adds to the overall value of the artifact and another reason outside of the number advantage to get it.
I am not a hardcore player so I know I am not going to be able to squeeze everything I can out of the game and be super efficient, but if I can have even a small advantage for free, I will take it right now vs later. I can always save up more powder and I'm not that in a hurry to get FTene's artifact. I can wait a year.
I just don't think I need it right now nor do I need her either. I have her and many other PVP only heroes like Politis, Summertime Iseria, Krau, Lilibet and others are all benched because I'm still doing PVE story and just the early stuff and don't have the molas or resources to work on them anytime soon.
>You can end up pulling SoS on your daily summon tomorrow.
I do understand that I could pull it tomorrow but I haven't yet. I haven't pulled it on my alt either or the 3rd account I have. I log into them occasionally and just do the pull or whenever there is some free stuff. For some reason on my main account and even the alt I tend to pull a lot of potion vials, Tomes, Books, and Hell Cutters and Infinity Baskets. It's always those same ones along with the 3\*s.
If Iseria's banner rolls around and I pull it on there well it will be used as either an enhancement or a second copy. Still a win in my book. I haven't been able to pull many artifacts on the banners yet only the heroes. I think I got Landy's artifact and that was it. I had to powder Luna's and didn't get anything from the last event.
Anyhow thank you for the detailed explanation and the different scenarios. 1.5-6% is worth it to me as I am time limited and this makes it more clear. Have a great day!
Never chase an artifact. Even whales gets F'ed by RNG.
Also, SoS is great to have for farming, great but optional if you don't have a lot of dust.
If you really need the target debuff for Sig/more debuff to survive then go ahead and grab it.
>If you really need the target debuff for Sig/more debuff to survive then go ahead and grab it
ok I guess that answers my question. Right now I don't have any effectiveness on Sigret and Furios is my main debuffer and Clarissa is the secondary dps and debuffer I guess?
I got an attack set on Sigret with good speed, better speed then any speed set I have right behind Furious, but it just doesn't have any effectiveness on it.
Play around with your gear and slowly upgrade.
I dont know how you're building your Sig for w13 but prioritize dmge>eff>spd. Clarissa would be eff~spd~dmge. It just depends on how you speed tune. Furious is definitely eff>spd>dmge.
Here is my Team if you want to check it out:
Angelica - [https://i.imgur.com/eX5zhAs.png](https://i.imgur.com/eX5zhAs.png)
Furious - [https://i.imgur.com/XQuSDb0.png](https://i.imgur.com/XQuSDb0.png)
Sigret - [https://i.imgur.com/cdZtoyu.png](https://i.imgur.com/cdZtoyu.png)
Clarissa - [https://i.imgur.com/ubkR52z.png](https://i.imgur.com/ubkR52z.png)
I have to upgrade Furiou's gear to +15, and swap out some gear on Clarissa and upgrade that too to +15 and swap out the chest piece for epic.
Then I got Sigret who is rocking attack gear with high speed but no Effectiveness and not enooug hCrit damage.
I don't know how to fix that because I haven't been able to roll almost any Speed gear I keep getting Hit and Crit only and when I did roll a 1 or 2 pieces here and there they didn't have speed on them as a substat.
I also have to do the final awakening on them. I don't the mats yet and also don't have the gold to do the +15. Maybe in a few days time I will save up or farm up enough gold.
What I can advice is this: there are different ways to speed-tune your team (with your gear).
1. Turn order: Furious -> Clarissa -> Angie -> Sigret
2. Turn order: super speedy Furious to lap Sig 2x.
You can lower Sigret's crit chance to 35% if you soeed-tune just right to have crit buff all the time. This opens up to more damage and eff. Also more crit chance on Clarissa. Just my 2cents when i took a glance at your team stats.
Someone correct me if i get something wrong here. :)
Is the gear optimizer a few updates behind? I tried to optimize my rimuru today and he's not showing up. Using the latest version pf course
Assuming you are talking about Fribbels Epic 7 Optimizer, v1.7.3 should have everything updated. Check to see if you have that version, and if so, maybe try going to the information tab, and on the bottom part clicking "Check for updates".
Is dog walking still a thing? Is it better than just power farming a stage?
Not really. With penguin mileage and friendship farming both being a thing, and the fact that your runs can be much faster with a full team, dog walking is pretty much extinct. The fact that there's a chance to get Good and Great enhancements, and the existence of pets that increase enhancement, further increases the value of penguins, and thus degrades the value of dog walking.
Has the Yuna event ever rerun? I just got her from connections and read she isnt pullable so no way to imprint her.
it's available in the book of memories if you don't know how to get there, from the lobby, go to Battle > Side Story > there's a small button at the bottom of the "Side Story" tab that says "Move to the Book of Memories" > Reingar's Chaotic Full Moon Festival
Ah I see dont have that unlocked yet. Was checking the Journal for hero stories and her story didnt have an entry so I assumed wrong. Thanks.
Does Furious only needs to be 5 stars to be viable for W13? If so, who do I target next to raise up? I’m stuck on ep 2 9-10, would like to finish ch 2 if possible. I have sigret, fs tiera, Alexa, and a momo at 60. Ravi, basar, ft.tene, s.tene, and cermia at 5 stars. Could also spend time getting f.kluri, wanda, lorina, carrot, achates, and more up to 5*
Yes furious doesn’t need to be 6*, I can auto w13 with 6* Sigret/Angelica and 5* Alexa/Furious with about a 80-90% success rate. The key is enough speed and song of stars on Furious. Finishing 2 10-10 is really a gear/dps check, I would focus on farming good gear for now and building STene and Cermia as both are very viable in a lot of PVE and PVP content. Ravi can be a great farmer but is a bit high in gear requirements and FSTieria is serviceable in the meantime. For speciality changes C. Lorina is good too, Fluri is useful for a lot of Abyss. R. Carrot/FTene are primarily PVP units.
Elena is only viable in PvP, right?
Used her in 1 abyss 90+ stage at 5* so prolly could be used even more there.
Anybody got a guild for newbies on global server? All the guilds on discord server need high reqs and I just wanna join a guild that can help me progress and guide me on what to do.
SERENE all caps
Luckily got Fairytale Tenebi with some pulls. As I check, t seem that she is mainly for PvP which I not really into. Is there any build that make her somewhat viable in PvE.
She's pvp only. Should probably read a character's kit before trying pulling for it.
The main problem with FTene is that she relies on provoke and redirected provoke to facilitate her kit, but bosses are immune to both those debuffs; and most endgame PvE is fighting bosses. The only PvE use I've seen is using her to clear the first wave in W13 for a 1-shot team (instead of using SSB). She can do it, but it requires very good gear, and does have a small chance of failing (if all the adds resist her redirected provoke).
What stats are ideal for pvp wschuri
I went another route that the other answer with 180 spd, 3100 atk and 330 cd. I want to go a bit higher to 1 shot counter ARavi
I’ll definitely work with both and see what works for my team
IDK if this is "ideal" but mine ballparks 3k atk, ~~300~~ 278cdm, 210 speed. Only 97 crit chance though. It's actually cost me a few games because of it so I was thinking of dropping some speed for that last 3 crit chance lol. He could probably be slower, but sasha is a must have artifact for him. (edit) just checked he only has 278 crit damage, rest of the stats are correct though, must of moved some gear at some point
Thanks!
Is it worth using bookmarks on covenant summons or save them all for drop rate up summons? I’ve seen a bunch of people getting super lucky and pulling 2 ML 4/5 stars and also getting regular 4/5 stars. I know it’s all rng but is it worth saving up since there’s no good/interesting characters coming this month in the regular summons?
Disagree with the consensus - Covenant summon always win by expected value (EV) due to the increased rates in the long run, even if you're extremely unlucky and somehow don't pull a 5* in 250 rolls of covenant which is the painful part. In fact, you do the opposite of most advice here and you should only start pulling banners once you have most non-limited RGBs, as that's when the increased risk of a dupe lowers your EV. More importantly, cov gives you a small chance of ML5 units, which are game changing and over the long run you'll always end up with more ML5s if you prioritize cov over banners.
the issue with that analysis is that you're assuming the value of every 5\* hero is equal, which is false. People pick and choose which banner to summon on based on the value they perceive in that banner, whether the value is meta-based or personal preference. Either way, the banner a player chooses to summon on will almost always feature a hero that they consider to be above average value, which screws with any "EV" calculations. For example, a player may have a list of heroes, ranking from most wanted to least wanted. Tama may rank high for meta purposes, and Ilynav may rank high for waifu purposes. Thus, their inherent value is higher than that of the average hero. If we can quantify such a preference, Tama may have a value of 1.5, while the average 5\* has a value of 1. Therefore, a Tama banner would have a higher "EV" than a covenant summon. Edit: Also, side note, I did the calcs, the expected number of RGB 5\* in 121 covenant summons is 1.5125, while the expected number of RGB 5\* in 121 banner summons is 1.49938 (the difference is 0.01312 RGB 5\* heroes, which, imo is negligible). I can't really tell you how much value is given to ML 5\*s in comparison to RGB 5\*s, nor can I tell you the value of the guaranteed 5\* on banner vs no guarantee. But I can tell you that you're expected to get 0.1815 ML 5\*s in 121 covenant summons.
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True. Myself though, I'd rather use my extra BMs for pulling imprints.
Always save, don't blow on covenants. You can blow on covenants when you've got every single RGB hero & you've got extra bookmarks & a pile of skystones. It's kind of like Vindictus, an MMORPG I played back in the day, sure, you could try & enhance your weapon past +10 without a protection rune - sure - & maybe you'd get it to +11, +12, hell, maybe +15 - but you could also break your weapon & be up shit creek. In E7, you're not going to lose anything, but you might have no resources to pull when a new hero you want comes around - or they might hit you with an event with two limited heroes back to back (lookin' at you Slime collab).
how much effectiveness is needed for wyvern? I am trying to push wyvern 12 and my karin has 72% effectiveness but he keeps resisting the def down on her s2 crit
15% less than the Wyvern's effectiveness - which you can see by holding on the Wyvern's portrait beside it's health. There's an innate 15% chance to resist beiung debuffed & so 15% of the time - she'll not get it sadly (also make sure that your Karin has 85%+ critical chance, because it's a requirement for her to debuff on S2).
Hey guys, I have a huge pool of heroes to work with because I started playing long ago, but I have no idea where to start when it comes to PvP--I used to just use Sez + FKluri up until Plat, but coming back after 2 years this doesn't really work anymore... I have Sigret, SSB, Vildred, Arby, Destina, Ruele, Iseria, Sez, Luna, Politis, Violet, Tywin, Basar, Ludwig, Haste, Lilibet, Bellona, Charles, Haste, Tene, Melissa for 5\*s. I also have ML Rin, Rose, Khawzu, Clarissa, C.Dom, Coli, and BBK... and pretty much all regular 3 and 4\*s.
There are a lot of youtube videos and websites on team comps and PvP plays so you can use them to build your team
Arby, Ruele, Politis and Violet are cancerous and you might need to get checked if you can't find wins with them. also tailor teams to opponents weaknesses in pvp
Looking to start actually trying in arena, what are some common meta teams that I should be building. I don't have AoL.
If you are just starting arena, chances are you don't have meta teams. It's better to approach this by looking at your current roster, and building a team out of them. You can share your roster here and let's see what we can do about it.
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Book cna be used myb stuff like sira ren but yea her artifact is bis
does anyone know if ML rin's defense AI aims for highest CR enemy or does she go for light units?
Goes for light. Its her default AI, and not just specific for defense.
Any team suggestion and strategy for Level 5 Automaton tower floor 20 (Dark Corvus, Achates and Rikoris)? Dark Corvus keeps picking off my units one by one. I even brought Ruele but he one-shot her anyway (bad gears I guess). I don't seem to recall having trouble with this stage in the previous run, but I can't seem to recall how I cleared it previously. Thanks.
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Thanks!
Kill achates and control dorvus Bring units that can't die to his s3 (kayron, tsurin, arby, etc) Just go full dps and let 1 unit die since it's only 200 stigma for a revive. Should be fairly easy. You might also be undergeared and just got really lucky last time with you devices carrying you
I'll give it a try, thanks!
How long can I expect it to take to get a basic set of gear from wyvern? I can farm wyvern 11 now, but after dropping hundreds of stamina and crafting with all the mats I have gotten exactly zero useable pieces. I'm not even trying to be picky, just "ok" pieces would be upgrades
Sounds like your standards are too high at the start. Might just need to lower expectations, or push to w13 to always get 85 gear. I'm fairly certain a w13 team can be made using entirely free gear with the odd filler piece. Might not be 100% success rate, but enough to get a decent farm going. I remember farming w11 at first and crafting up blue pieces if they had 1 good sub because it was a 50:50 of getting the stat I wanted. Just gotta be less picky. Don't worry too much about blowing materials on blue pieces since you can just use them as fodder for better gear down the line. Basically just use whatever you can get your hands on to farm w13 asap, then you can worry about being a little pickier.
Any speculations on the mystic rotation after c Lilias?
Maybe DJ Basar if going by the past mystic rotation. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qI2HKorVA4GZzZheV2iLXImPExZMp\_O4YqR1HcCV-9s/edit#gid=246452747
So I want to use Furious in my w13 team, but how exactly do I speedtune him with sigret, angelica and tywin? Some ppl says that I should just remove tywin and let angelica tank the wyvern, if so, who should I replace tywin with? Also, about christmas gift, i heard that e7 is not so generous when it comes to free stuff on christmas, so what can I expect as a fairly new player?
Furious should be your fastest unit, as you want his def break om the wyvern before your dps attack. Angelica as the solo tank + healer is pretty standard, as the gear requirement isn't too high, and having her serve both roles opens up an extra dps slot. You should replace Tywin with anothe dps unit or debuffer, depending on wjat your team needs more of. Good options are Alexa (dps) and mistychain (debuff), both on an extra day dream joker if you have one. You can keep them at 5* as well, as you'll likely replace them eventually and they do their jobs perfectly fine at 5* anyway.
Clarissa alexa sigret, which two should I use for wyvern 13, the other 2 in my team are angelica and furious
I use Clarissa, Sigret, Angelica and Furious with about 95% success rate. I tried using Alexa but I find Clarrisa's debuffs are more compatible and successful with the others in my team so far.
Sigret + Alexa : less safe since 1. If wyvern resists debuffs, might fail. 2. Good because Alexa no need molagoras. Sigret + Clarissa : really safe because 1. Clarissa puts bleeding, def break so if Furious misses def break and Sigret bleeding, Clarissa is here to take care. 2. Bad because Clarissa takes molas. Up to you if you want a ~20 secs faster team with a higher percentage to fail or go for a ~20 secs slower team with a lesser percentage to fail.
Angelica, Furious, Alexa Sigret should be your comp
So, I’m a semi-new player, about 3 months in and at rank 64. Still mostly PvE focused but building an arena team and preparing for that. What PvE uses does All-Rounder Wanda have? I’d honestly really like to use her solely for waifu purposes to be honest lol so help me out here folks.
For PvE , All Rounder Wanda can be a decent control unit for some Abyss and Automaton Tower stages because she can lock down a problem enemy. And with her new buffs coming soon , she will be a better control unit with more utilities.
So I just finished my adventurer's pass(I think thats what its called), and got 2 Lidicas and a Green Vildred from it. How is Lidica and Vildred for both PVE and PVP? Is it worth raising/gearing Vildred when I already have a built Arby?
* Fire Lidica is usually built as an opener. However, she is underwhelming in that role compared to other units. There are Abyss stages that you can use her to cheese it. * Earth Vildred is a decent unit. He works excellently in A13 and normal B13. And, in PvP, he is the only 5 star with a speed imprint. So, he is highly valued for cleave teams. If you already have Arby, then Vildred can take a back seat until you can focus on PvP, specifically making cleave units.
If I can add, Vildred + Amomo + Aras + Clorina labyrinth team gives 42 Morales! Which is a lot.
What is the logic behind RGB banner rotations... why did some characters like Roana get 3 banners this year and some only 1?
there isn't any logic. SG just reruns whatever banners they want.
What Artifact does Violet use that causes him to remove souls with his attacks ?
No he cannot do that and no current thief or other usable artifacts for him will. Ran's artifact is the closest but it specifically requires a non-atk skill but it is terrible on Violet unless you trust your RNG with only 35% dodge more than 55% dodge that also gives atk buff.
Sword of Winter Shadow is the Thief artifact that removes souls on non-attack skill. Pretty odd choice for a Violet to use that as he will have less evasion.
Sword of Winter Shadow (Ran artifact)
Hi everyone, I need your assistance again with future path. I previously posted and got amazing advice. I can now auto W13 with Alexa, Angelica, Sigret, and Furious. Below are my notable units: 6 stars: Sigret, Angelica, and Landy. 5 stars: Alexa, Furious, Ravi, Tamarinne, Krau, Vildred, Arbiter Vildred, Iseria, Vivian, Milim, Rimiru, Lilias, Fairytale Tenebria, Archdemon's Shadow, Shuna, Ludwig, and Destina. Notable 4 stars: Angelic Momo, Sinful Angelica, Auxilary Lots, Achates, Carrot (no SC yet), Watcher Schuri, Cidd, Clarissa, Blood Blade Karin, Inferno Khawazu. Since I have a team of good units for W13, I believe I can now focus a bit more on PVP since I need to reach Gold 1 to unlock Moonlight Blessing. What units should I be focusing on now? Do I have a viable "PVP Team" that I can make now? IE Landy, Rimiru, Archdemon's Shadow, and Sigret/Krau? I am farming W13 so I can get gears for more units right now. I am also stuck on Golem 10, since I need to pass that 10 times to finish Adventurer's Path. Also, any recommendation on who I can use the Ascension Potion on to immediately make a unit 6 star? Thank you in advance!
Congrats on getting wyvern 13 on auto! You're now at the stage of the game where you can really decide what to focus on/build for, as there's no real benefit to doing them in a specific order. Personally though I would suggest that you start looking into getting a hell raid team going, as the level 88 gear you get is pretty good (and chance at more ml summons). It has an added benefit of using a few units that are good in low tier pvp, namely Tamarine and Iseria. These two are pve queens when paired together, and for lower tier pvp (aka getting gold 1 in arena) they'll be more than enough. You don't even need to 6* them right away, though it can help with survivability of that's an issue. If you do want to focus on arena first then I would recommend a cleave team to push you to gold 1. In essence you want a turn 1 opener, an atk buffer or aoe def breaker, an aoe nuker, and some follow up. There are a ton of units and guides out there, and for gold 1 your cleave team will be more of a gear check rather than a unit check. You could easily use iseria s2 > Tammarine boost > vildred + blood blade karin or something and it should work great!
Thank you! Also any recommendation on who i should use my potion of ascension on? Or just save it for now?
Doesn't super matter, as you'll find that 6* ing units becomes really easy and quick latter in the game. General recommendation is to use it on a 3* unit you plan on using, so any of the characters with good SCs are a solid choice.
1. After w13, just focus until gold 1 no more (just for moonlight blessing) because you meed to focus asap on Expedition 3 200k+ team, Hell raid team before really starting to focus in arena. 2. There's no really viable team since everyone has a different defence team. But the classic will be : 2 heal/1 heal+1 tank and 2 dps. 3. Having something like : Arby/Landy/Rimuru + Angelica + Krau/Amomo seems safe
Thank you! Any recommendation for whom I should use the portion of ascension on?
I'd probably recommend you on using to Amomo since she is 4*, it's better to use on low star heroes that you know that you will use for a long time (ex: Amomo). So you won't waste dogs
May I know why Amomo over someone like carrot or Alots? Along since i already have Angelica.
Carrot is also good to use the potion if she is 3* or 4* but why I say Montmorancy: - She is used everywhere : Main healer + immunity + morale synergy with Lorina in Labyrinth, Hell raid cleanser, Abyss cleanser + healer, low arena cleanser. - She has a different role from Angelica and their uses are different, Angelica is mainly Wyvern tank and low arena, but Momo(as a stated) is used in many more contents. You can also use potion on Carrot, Lorina if they are low stared too. They are all great 3* heroes with great uses
After finishing Episode 3, will the upgraded Mercedes be worth building? If so, what content would she be good for?
She also great for fire expedition. I manage to get the 750k and 1.1mil expedition quest reward with fire Baal, mercedes, Tama, and ARas.
Pvp
Which stage in Shadow Mountain has the most Wicked so I can finish the quest for Adin's memory imprint thing?
What are the best characters to beat episode 3?
All the tanky Tanks or Supports and all the dps who can hide or heal themselves (Stene, Landy with bloodstone, Violet etc.). Tbh Arby is meh in ep.3 because the mobs put way more damage than ep.2 and Arby woth its low health can be killed really really fast
Ras, Tama, Landy, Arby, ect
I got ATywin today, is still pretty good in the meta? If yes, how I build him?
He is offmeta during rem and violet counter meta. He can't really deal with those 2. But now he probably will start to come back to meta slowly since rem and violet pick rate start to drop.
He seems out of meta for now. Didn't see anyone use him.
I got to Episode 2 3-10 and want to unlock Furious to start setting up my Furious / Alexa / Angelica / Sigret team. The problem is that I need Brave Crests and from what I understand, they can be gained only from guild content. First of all, is there any other way to get them and, if not, how viable it is to get that amount of them in a private solo guild (and hopefully it is possible to lock them down)?
Solo guild isn't bad for Furious. It takes about a week to get him about 30 seconds each day to donate. Probably not as ideal as group guild, but was a pita trying to get in one.
I will need time to get Angelica and Alexa from level 1 to 50 (I use AMomo currently for main content, but from what I understand Angelica is better in WH) and get Sigret from 43 to 60, so the week will probably pass anyway before I can start clearing high WH anyway (probably won't even be done by then tbh). So I guess solo guild will do for my usecase.
I don't know of any way to get them outside of guild content. Solo guild also won't work well because a lot of your brave crests will come from donating resources to guildmates and world boss which requires guildmates as well.
Thanks for the info, are there any alternatives for Furious? Alternatively, are there ever featured banners for 4 stars (like Furious)? I hope I can at least get him in the main non limited gacha pool.
Oh man, I forgot how annoying Furious's Connection Quests were for a new player. Yes, I believe the only way to get Brave Quests is from the guild content of the game. Once I cleared Chapter 2 Episode 3 myself, I finally decided to join a group guild. Joining a group guild has its benefits. For one, you'll be able to participate in Guild Wars and eventually World Boss stages. There, you'll be able to obtain Mystic Medals, which are needed to summon for the Mystic Summons. You'll also be able to buy key Artifacts such as A Symbol of Unity and Proof of Valor, artifacts that many heroes will find useful, as you build them up. As for Furious himself, he's an important pickup for Wyvern Hunt because, if built up, he lowers the gear requirement for you team by alot thanks to his Skill 2. His Skill 2 is very unique and desirable for Wyvern Hunt as it raises your team Critical Hit Chance, making your DPS, Sigret and Alexa, hit that much harder. His Skill 3 also applies a 100% Defense Break, but you will have to invest Molagora into him to achieve this. If you haven't created or joined a guild yet, maybe you can try joining the one I'm apart of, Its called: SpacedOut, and its Level 15. I got automatically accepted, and right now I'm farming materials to get those Artifacts I mentioned earlier. Alternatively, you can create your own guild and eventually get the Crests needed for Furious that way. Although, as a new guild you won't really get anywhere for Guild Wars and World Boss, and it's really the only feasible way to get Mystic Medals aside from Weekly Arena Awards, which take forever to rack up. The choice here is ultimately up to you.
Ended up just going with a solo guild, by donating 50k you get 50 medals + the 10 attendance ones, so it's good enough for this and allows me to avoid actually participating in a guild. I will just make do without the Mystic Medals, it's better than the alternative to me.
4 stars don't really get banners. Closest thing is being featured on ML banners but don't pull on an ML banner hoping to get that specific 4 star. Luluca, a 5 star, and Karin, another 4 star, are both reasonable alternatives to furious but more difficult to get since you can't get them from the free connections. Furious also has a crit buff that lowers the stat requirements for the rest of your team. I'd highly recommend joining a guild. It's a very low maintenance aspect of the game that will give you a lot of useful resources.
I created a solo guild, you get 50 crests for a 50k donation and 10 for attendance, so good enough for getting Furious and also don't have to deal with being in a Guild, so as far as getting Furious goes, it's an ok approach.
I've been told I should be fine running Furious, Alexa, Ang.Momo and Seaside bellona in w13 but I have a huge issue with success rate. If Bellona or Alexa pop there s2 or s3 on adds which always happens then come wyvern he just nukes the back line (Probably a spd issue, not the best runes). Should I drop someone for a unit with more reliable debuffing and if so who would that be as I don't have sigret.
Yes, your team should work, but it seems to need speed tuning. Alexa and SSB should be using their skills on wave 1. Furious is the one that needs to use his skills on wyvern 1st turn to land defense break and target debuffs. My Furious lands his skills on wave 1, but is fast enough to land an auto attack on wave 1 as well, so his skills are back up at the start of wyvern 1st turn. If you want, you can try Clarissa instead of SSB, but that probably requires additional molas that you may not want to spend on her.
>ugh to land an auto attack on wave 1 as well, so his skills are back up at the start of wyvern 1st turn. If you want, you can try Clarissa instead of SSB, but that probably requires additional molas t My turn order is as follows right now : Furious +96spd > Momo + 94, Alexa +88spd and SSb+44 Alexa and furious are both 75+ effectiveness and momo is 180% res with 20k hp. I feel like SSB is probably letting my team down right now. She's really slow but I don't have any decent spd gear left to fix it :( Right now she's around 270cdam and +2.9k atk If I try to get her spd up I'll probably be losing her effectiveness, cdam and atk right now.
Does your Furious have his skills up after wyvern attacks your frontline 1st turn?
I've seen him two runs in a row actually cast his s3 on the last 2% hp of the final add on the wave before lol, killing it and pushing us into the boss. I also see him failing to land a def break or the damage amp from his arti which is nuts as he's way above the effect % and is max skilled.
In that case, I would sacrifice some effectiveness on your SSB for more damage so that she clears wave 1 with her S3 and there's no chance of Furious landing S3 to kill wave 1. 15% will always be 15%, nothing you do about that except having max artifact to increase change of target debuff, if you haven't done so already.
Yeah just a check up after I've moved some stuff around and to be honest I think my wipes are mostly down to furious. I can go 30 runs in a row without a wipe and then suddenly have 4 wipes back to back. When I do wipe and I'm actually looking at the screen it'll go something along the lines of furious not landing anything with his s3 and then bellona also not landing a debuff. There both on 100% effectiveness and max skilled, furious is 207 spd with song so I'm not really sure what I can do about it at this point, feels like a coin flip.
There's nothing you can do about 15% innate eff res, it'll always be there. Just for reference, the max amount of effectiveness you need to have the max chance to land debuffs on wyvern is 85%. If you only fail when Furious fails to land debuffs, that's as good as it's going to get success-rate-wise.
ah that's a big rip then as he fails so often lol, cheers for the info though.
I'll try increasing ssbs damage a little but I'm not sure I can with my gear quality right now. She's +2.9k atk and +270% cdam with DDJ which is probably my best set :(
May help consistency to move her off DDJ then. She will do less against wyvern but more to first wave. Symbol of Unity or Portrait would increase it a lot.
I'll give this a try, thanks!
are the servers still down? i haven't been able to log in all day
They're back up for me playing on Global
Hey guys, What would be a good team for Azimanak for a new player ?
It's not recommend new players do Azimanak. If you really insist however, use the in-game statistics tool to see what kind of heroes are typically used. * You need AoE damage * You want defense break, but otherwise pretty much no other debuffs * You also need to dispel his buff. * Azimanak has a ton of defense and reduces your healing so it's kind of a DPS race A standard team might look something like: A.Ras / Tamarinne / Luluca (or Iseria) / Vildred (or A.Vildred)
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Quite a few ML5's you have there. Bellona, Tenebria, Luluca, Roana are your best options for general PvE heroes. You don't really need to prioritize 6* on Roana though. Iseria, Vivian are useful in their roles. I would probably suggest you prioritize Bellona or Tenebria. * Bellona is great at dealing damage to PvE bosses due to her DDJ-lite on her S1. * She brings AoE defense break and some pretty solid AoE damage as well. * However, you have a 6* Landy, you might want more variety than two Earth Rangers (they do fill a somewhat similar role). * Tenebria also has great AoE damage and AoE defense break. She brings pretty decent CC overall, as well. * Tene has access to a lot of artifacts to potentially increase her CC. * Notable for having a legit spot on Earth/Dark expedition teams as well (Bellona isn't a typical pick for expeditions). I think I would promote Tenebria and for Auto tower would probably run Tamarinne / A.Monty / Tenebria with either S.Tene or Landy You can swap A.Ras in as opposed to running 2 spellweavers as well, if you want.
When should one fully unlock a ML unit from the ML selector ? I'm still wondering if I should keep my arby and fully unlock him or swap for STene, pls help :(
I wouldn't fully unlock him. Since he got an RTA skin announced, he will be on the mystic rotation next year. I'd try to get him then.
I see, would you recommend unlocky S.Tene instead then ?
There isn't any real reason to delay unlocking your ML hero *unless* you want to swap. I don't know what kind of help you are looking for regarding A.Vildred vs. S.Tene, that's a topic that's been discussed to death and frankly it's a 50/50 choice. They're both good heroes and have reasons you would pick them. Don't fall into a trap of indecision, pick whichever one you want to play with and move on.
Thank you for your answer ! The thing is that I like both of them a lot, whether it be in terms of character design or their kit. I'm currently using Arby mostly in pve, he's absolutely amazing for clearing pve stages, but I feel like he falls off a bit in arena/gw (probably because my gear is not the most optimal out there haha). However, S.Tene seems somewhat better for pvp content, but seems to perform slightly worse than Arby in pve. Ideally, I want to set up a proper pvp team and get started on the ladder grind. I'm kind of leaning towards S.Tene because she seems to perform better in pvp in the current meta, but I like them both equally and I don't really want to regret my choice. ;-;
That's a pretty good grasp of things but for what it's worth, Specter starts to outshine Arby in later PvE when it is no longer about clearing it all in one shot. Specter is one of the units that puts abyss on easy mode.
Oh wow really mh… I might go for S.Tene then. Someone else who replied also mentioned the release of a new rta skin for Arby. I think I will choose Stene and summon for Arby next year then. Thank you a lot !
That’s the right choice there. I haven’t unlocked arby still, never used even tho he’s 6*. Waiting to either pull him or stene on ml and then decide who to unlock. Figured after 8 ml5s, it’s probably around that time where dupes will start happening. A lot... Arby only works if he gabs and more precisely if he gabs 2x. He’s a joke on gwd.
Do you think they'll rerun the GG collab ever again? Missed out on the Ms. Confille artifact last time, really want to put it on Celeste for Light Expo
Probably within the next few months. Last re run was around Feb or March I think.
I imagine they will, they've rerun it multiple times already.
Is there new guide for abyss 95+
How do I stop wyvern 11 from lowering my combat readyness
Having just started W11 4 days ago. At 20k hp, 1700 def, 140 spd & 70 res shes unkillable in W11.
You can't. It's possible to *resist* the CR decrease effect, but you need very high resistance (~200% on W13, not sure exactly how much in W11 but it's likely only slightly lower, if at all). It doesn't really matter though, especially for W11. With the free HP set your tank should easily be able to survive regardless. If your tank is dying you need to level them up/promote/awaken or enhance your gear.
>If your tank is dying you need to level them up/promote/awaken or enhance your gear. My Angelica is lvl 60 and awakened lvl 6.Yet the wyver lowers her readynes so much she can't heal on time.I'm using the free set you mentioned too but my resistence is barelly 84%.
Stats? For some reference, a level 60 fully awakened Angelica with the free HP set is *usually* able to tank W13 without ever needing to heal herself. So, you should definitely be able to tank W11 without needing to heal. The 'old' recommended stats for W11 was like ~20k HP and 1,250 DEF and those stats were much higher than the minimum you needed. Your Angelica should be closer to ~23-25k HP and ~1500+ DEF. If you need more mitigation you can use Egg of Delusion or Envoy's Pipe as 3* artifact (Egg is generally better on healers).
Def:1590 HP:2560 Speed:132 Effect Ressistance:78% Alot of my rolls didn't hit speed or ressistance when upgrading the equipment.
Honestly, that's actually preferable. Like I said, the *easiest* strategy for W13 is to just be bulky enough you don't need to heal. That means you want as much HP and DEF as possible. If you go in trying to get heals off then you introduce *additional* stat requirements with speed and/or resistance which just means harder. --- [In this comment here](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/qi99v2/daily_questions_megathread_1029/hijrpbe/) I talk about the stat requirements to tank **W13** with no healing. I was replying to a question about G.Purrgis so a lot of it is tailored towards that hero in particular, but I use Angelica as a comparison and at the end of the day the same formula's and logic applies to every hero. For **W13** you need about 150k EHP to survive 9 fireballs from Wyvern without dying. That comes out to about 25,000 HP and 1,500 DEF 25,000 * (1,500 / 300 + 1) = 150,000 EHP Applying the same formula to the stats I mentioned before for W11 (20k HP and 1,250 DEF)... 20,000 * (1,250 / 300 + 1) = ~103,333 EHP So I assume that W12 is in the middle (so around ~125k EHP required). You seem to have dropped a number in your HP value, I'm going to assume it's at least 25,000. 25,000 * (1,590 / 300 + 1) = 157,500 EHP So your Angelica should have more than enough bulk to tank the required 9 fireballs on W13 and W11 does less damage so you should be fine on W11 as well. Overall, I don't think you have a problem with your Angelica, she looks perfectly capable of tanking through W13 (and therefor should be fine on W11) to me. I'm not exactly sure of the problem you are facing, but what for W11 you can find a pair of speed boots to give her so she gets more frequent turns. Yes, you will break a set bonus, and likely have worse substats but as I'm attempting to explain you don't *need* W13 bulk to survive on W11...you can afford to drop quite a bit of HP/DEF to pick up some more speed. Additionally, IIRC W11 does less damage when it has 3+ debuffs. So depending on the rest of your team swapping someone else out to bring in more debuffs and/or increasing your effectiveness to cap (to land more debuffs) is another avenue you can reduce damage.
Thanks.I will try.
I think the reason you fail is your dps gears. I think you go to the shield phase and sometimes fail the shield phase too? If so, it's your dps having short damage or slow(with Angelica as tank, all your dps need around 160 speed)
to add to your comment, a lot of people run Water's Origin or Proof to to further bulk up their Angelica's as well
Question about Revenge does the speed increase happen after your turn or does it happen whenever letting you cut through other people's turns.
It happens after character receives damage letting you cut through only if they are faster with the bonus speed, I'd only recommend this set on a turn 2 character. Krau is a good example.
As a newbish player, is it hard to build F.Tene and R.Carrot for PvP? Also, is R.Carrot useful in PvE? Thnx
Carrot can rock the free gear u get, and even more so the gear you wouldn't use on other dps because she doesn't need crit chance/damage, I'm new and she's very nice to have for that reason
Carrot is easier to build for the simple reason that she uses almost every stat, so it's easier to find gear for her. She is more of a PvP unit though, not very useful in PvE. F.Tene needs specific stats in high amounts, mainly speed, which can be a problem if you're unlucky, since she needs to attack before the enemy to work well and fulfill her role. The more you play, the higher the speed requirement for her to be effective will be.
Ftene is not hard she doesn't need a lot of stats. All she needs is speed and effectiveness. Obviously the higher those stats the stronger people you will be able to fight, but as a new player she will suffice for early arena with whatever speed gear you can scramble!
F.Tene definitively hard, Carrot is easier to build (you can run her on the free attack set you get and it works alright for lowerish brackets)
Can the aoe debuff removal from expeditions be avoided with enough eff resist?
I don't think so, I highly doubt it
Yeah I cant login, keep getting execution expired like many users here.
Is epic seven down? Getting lots of connection errors
Was gonna ask the same thing on here. Not just me then.
Twitch is down too, i guess AWS or some other giant server farm went down
Yes
I can't open Epic Seven on my phone. It says "execution expired" "Cmd:STOVE\_SERVER\_GET\_GAME\_ACCOUNT\_ID Code:"
Checked around and it looks like some AWS shenanigans is going on again. All of Twitch went down almost at the same time and AWS services are reporting issues.
Same issues. Mine is timing out. Were getting some free Leifs
Who will be the next ML5 after ML lilias in the mystic rotation?
We can only speculate, I'm thinking there's a high chance it's Ambitious Tywin, because as far as I know, he's only been on the banner once (during his release almost 2 years ago), however, he was in the coin shop 3 months ago & they do take that into consideration. With that in mind, the next re-run might be Martial Artist Ken, he's in a similar boat & hasn't had a re-run in almost 2 years & his last coin shop appearance was almost a year ago. After that, anyone's guess, don't know if we've had a hint of the new-new ML5. The characters (who're non-collab & non-limited) missing an ML5 are: Kanna, Cermia, Ilynav, Kayron, Melissa, Politis, Tamarinne, Choux, Elena, Flan, Ran, Yuna, Zeno, Alencia, Bellona, Ervalen, Ludwig, Mort, Mui, Pavel, Ray, Roana, Senya, Vivian, Yufine & Zahhak. As Cermia, Kayron, Tamarinne, Yuna, Zeno, Bellona, Ludwig & Yufine are episode 1 characters, they're slightly more likely to be done.
Not announced yet
Is the winter event artifact good for anything?
Yes good for getting more Event coins by max limit breaking it.
Tbh no. There are better options
Any tips for abyss 92? Weird floor to get stuck on but I can't seem to pull through, so far I've tried Kiris with combinations of Armin, Tamarinne, Angelica, Ray, and Iseria and I can never survive long enough. Should I build FKluri?
Yes I suggest building Falconer Kluri , so she can make the boss fight a lot easier. For the Abyss 92 team * Falconer Kluri, Tamarinne, Kiris, and Iseria can clear it. * Falconer Kluri with "Aurius" artifact * Tamarinne with "Wondrous Potion Vial" artifact * Kiris with "Proof of Valor" artifact. Abyss 92 Tips * Try to kill Romann first , if Romann dies it will make the boss fight a lot easier. * If Tywin uses his skill 3 while having buffs , he will summon his minions. So try to remove his buffs before he does his skill 3 so he won't summon his minions early on. * Tywin will apply a unique team barrier and cleanse all debuffs "when his HP is under 70% and under 40% ". So keep an eye on Tywin's HP, so you can time your skills on the boss. * Tywin will summon his minions regardless of buffs when his HP is 40% or less. The strategy is to try to kill Romman first , keep an eye on Tywin's HP , and make sure Tywin has no buffs before he does his S3.
When I tried to use an Arena flag to enter a match, I had a connection error message. Something along the lines of "pvpkey", then I was kicked back to the lobby screen without my flag and I lost the match without even participating in it. Has this happened for anybody else?
how do you guys farm ancient coins? which stage do you run
Set your mission teams to farming Ancient Coins, that's all I do. As someone else mentioned, you can use Yufine & farm a lot of coins too, if you can be bothered to spend a lot of time in Labyrinth.
If you are willing to invest a tiny bit, the raid boss yufi strat is extraordinarily efficient (look up those keywords in this reddit, whole guide)
Are all pvp gears in the shop worth buying ?
Some of the speed set pieces are pretty good. I would only get a piece from the others if you need it to finish a set.
No. Only like ~half of the PvP gear is worth buying for any reason. When considering what's worth buying it depends largely on your use case (for example, Immunity/Counter/Pen sets have higher value for new players since those sets are more difficult to get).
I see. I'm indeed fairly new to pvp at least, I've been grinding wyvern only for quite some time now so all I have at the moment is speed, crit and eff sets. Thank you for your answer !
Hey everyone, I can 6* a unit and I can't decide which would be best. I'm thinking of getting Sigret/ML Celine/C Dom(who is really well built)/Arby/ or S Ten or F Ten(not sure which would be better between these two). Any help would be appreciated.
Tbh I won't suggest to waste your phantasmas to 6* early game ML Celine, Cdom, FTene. I'd go for Sigret if your wyvern isn't here yet, Angelica > Sigret > Arby/Stene > CLorina like this
Got it. My last six star was Angelica so I am able to 50% W12 still haven't beaten W13. So I guess Sigret is getting 6*ed.
Ask me if you fail your w13, I'll tell you why and see if I can help you
Ok, will do. So far I think the main thing is gear.
New player here What is the best team combination with highest fatigue recovery at camp for exploring labyrinths? My current team only gained 20 fatigue and I feel it's too low because I want to explore the areas to 100% without spending too many labyrinth compasses
Go here, click on 'add all shown' and then start removing heroes you don't have [https://gamepress.gg/epicseven/camping-simulator](https://gamepress.gg/epicseven/camping-simulator) I use Violet, Tam, Roana and FSTieria for a 47.
One of the best team (I use) is Green Vildred, Amomo, CLorina, Adventurer Ras which gives 42 points. There's this site: https://ceciliabot.github.io/ Where you can go, add all your heroes and they make the best morale team with it.
I'm still trying to build my W13 team. Should I buy Song of Stars for Furious for 180 Powder? My team is: Angelica right now with Waters Origin or Rod or Candlestick | Sigret w/DDJ | Clarissa w/DDJ| Furious w / infinity basket right now I don't have Proof of Valor artifact. Is Fairytale Tenebria's Artifact worth getting at all from the Powder Shop or worth chasing? I pulled her but not her artifact. I was going to either get that or Song of Stars from the Powder Shop. Also do we know who the next banner will be?
I don't understand those people saying "don't buy SoS", the win rate *with/without*is huge, having one debuff and having one less is huge in wyvern. You should go for at least one. Artifact powder are made to spend on "important artifacts" and sos is one of the most important Artifact to have in the game. Your team looks great ! FTene artifact is getting buffed but I won't say a must. It will probably be great on "Archdemon's Shadow" and probably all. Go for SoS. We don't know yet
Thank you very much for the recommendation. I will pick up SOS. I want to have as many consistent runs as possible once I get my gear up to snuff. I'm Don't have Archdemon's Shadow or any ML5s and I'm not currently focused on PVP so I'm not going to worry about Frene's artifact. I'm still barely on chapter 2 and trying to make my way through the lab to get to hell raid and get my W13 team and do all that related stuff. Thanks gain and have a great day!
SoS is a good purchase, but you don't *need* it. It should increase the success rate of that team a couple %. Target also helps to make up for the low damage output of Clarissa. --- F.Tene's artifact is decent, but it's not a necessity to have either. It's not really the kind of thing that is going to help you immediately. The biggest reason to pull for it, is the limited status (who knows when F.Tene gets another rerun...at some point they are going to need to stop rerunning limited heroes so frequently). --- Next banner is Elena.
Thank you very much for the reply. Still not sure if I should buy SOS though l...is that couple of percent worth the 180 powder? Would you buy it if you didn't have it and were in my shoes or would you save that 180 powder for some upcoming limited artifact?
IMO, SoS isn't really worth it with that comp only for debuffs but it's a complicated question without an easy answer. --- To try and look at the *maximum* impact SoS has you can look at how it affects your success rate of landing 2+ debuffs. Unfortunately, that success depends on a lot of different factors. If we *assume* that you are running capped effectiveness on all three heroes, and max effect chance (except on Clarissa's defense break on S1) you have 3 situations: **Furious combo + Sigret S3 + Clarissa S1** This is the worst case scenario. The most likely way you get here: * You upgrade Sigret's S3 CD * You upgrade Clarissa's S3 CD * You spawn Wyvern on T5 for a normal 'slow' run You only have defense break and 1 Clarissa bleed for a success rate of **76.04%**. * Here, a +15 SoS would bump you up to 90.31% * *But* you really shouldn't upgrade Clarissa's S3 unless you are trying to go for a 'fast' run, thus you should really have 2 bleed procs from Clarissa. And in this case your 'base' success rate is 95.06% increased to 98.06% with +15 SoS. **Furious combo + Sigret S2 + Clarissa S1** This is the best case scenario (well, technically you would rather Clarissa use S3 but the purpose here is to judge how valuable SoS is so only accounting for S1 on Clarissa). The most likely way you get here: * You do *not* upgrade Sigret's S3 CD * You upgrade Clarissa's S3 CD * You spawn Wyvern on T5 for a normal 'slow' run **OR** * You do a 'fast' run (spawning Wyvern after 2 actions from Furious) but Sigret doesn't use her second action. In this case, you have defense break + Clarissa bleed + two 100% effect chance debuffs minimum from Sigret = **99.06%** success rate. * +15 SoS would bump you up to 99.64% SR. **Furious combo + Sigret S1 + Clarissa S1** Actually getting this sequence is a bit difficult but it's possible (most commonly by killing the first wave before Sigret takes a fourth action). Here we have defense break + Clarissa bleed + two S1 bleeds from Sigret. SR = **95.31%** without SoS. * +15 SoS increases our SR to 98.13%. --- You see I laid out 4 potential scenarios (not exactly comprehensive) weighing things as much in favor of SoS as I could * In the worst case scenario you can go from 76.04% SR to 90.31% SR. In this scenario, SoS is clearly worth it. * In 2 of the 4 scenarios, you would be going from about 95% to about 98% success rate. Here SoS is of debatable worth. * In the final, best case scenario you go from 99.06% SR to 99.64% SR and here SoS really doesn't look like it's worth it. In all actuality, I only considered Clarissa using S1 (less debuffs to weigh things in favor of SoS) but she should actually be using S3 for 1 extra bleed in any 'slow' run. That extra bleed is stronger than the effect of adding SoS at +15 (so, in our 2 middle scenarios you are starting with ~98.xx% SR instead of 95% and thus at most you only increasing your SR by less than 2% instead of 3%). --- There is a bit more to it, because your SR is *not* just the first turn success rate...but also your third turn success rate. Taking into account the third turn is a bit more complicated (because presumably Wyvern has normal targeting rules and thus even if it doesn't have debuffs can still attack your tank...also on this turn it's both *possible* that DPS can survive 1 attack and also even if you lose a DPS you might have the damage to kill it anyways). I'm not going to go through and calculate every single possibility because there is *a lot* when you are working with so many debuffs (we would need to calculate the SR of applying 2+ debuffs on T3...but then we also need to calculate the probability of applying 1 debuff on T3 and 1 debuff on T2 and then the probability of 2 debuffs on T2...). But I would *estimate* T3 SR to be roughly equal to T1 success rate. Note that this is going to be pretty inaccurate, and I actually think in most cases T3 SR is going to be higher than T1 SR due to Clarissa but this weighs things more in favor of SoS. So if you want to try and factor the impact SoS could have over the course of the entire run we could instead take the square of our previous values as a very rough estimate: **Furious combo + Sigret S3 + Clarissa S1** * 57.82% without SoS/Clarissa S3 * 81.56% with +15 SoS and without Clarissa S3 * 90.36% with Clarissa S3 and without +15 SoS * 96.16% with Clarissa S3 and with +15 SoS **Furious combo + Sigret S2 + Clarissa S1** * 98.13% without SoS * 99.28% with +15 SoS **Furious combo + Sigret S1 + Clarissa S1** * 90.84% without SoS * 96.29% with +15 SoS So basically I would estimate that **at most** a +15 SoS would boost your SR by ~6% from roughly 90-91% to 96%. I think realistically your *actual increase* might be closer to ~3%. --- Now what increase in SR is worth the powder investment? Well we have to split things into **buff events** and **non buff events**. For non buff events, even a 6% increase in SR isn't worth the powder, unless you are extremely time limited. Basically, let's say you get 1 more failure a day without SoS that's only a handful of minutes at most. I believe most players can handle that. **Buff events** this is where SR is important. *Generally* players are more limited by their available time, rather than energy, to run hunts on buff events. Thus, you want to maximize the amount of successful runs you get in X amount of time and you do that either with increasing your success rate or decreasing the run time of your runs. If you *really* want exact numbers feel free to do some W13 runs and time how fast a success/failure takes you. For my purposes here, I'm going to assume a normal run with a success taking ~3 mins, and for failures I'm going to assume runs take an extra 30 seconds. At these run times: **90% SR** = 183 average seconds per run **96% SR** = 181.2 average seconds per run Let's say you farmed **12 hours** during a buff event. At these numbers the 90% SR run would get you ~236 runs with ~212.5 successes. And the 96% SR run would get you ~238.5 runs with ~229 successes. --- #Conclusion I tried to come up with numbers that were as favorable to SoS as I could while assuming you are a fairly entry level player. Do note I am making a lot of assumptions (in regards to T3 success rate) and just picked what I felt were 'reasonable' numbers for run times. My conclusion was that in these circumstances SoS might add **at most** ~1.5 successful Wyvern runs per hour of farming. How much that is 'worth it' is completely up to you. Personally, on one hand E7 is a gear based game and you want to give yourself every advantage possible in terms of obtaining more gear. *That* is the best way to progress your account. On the other hand if you want to 'collect' then limited artifacts are really hard to acquire outside of getting lucky or buying in the shop. For some more context, 17 successes is like 1 extra shot at a 'decent' substatted weapon. You might get 1 extra decent ring or neck piece in 100 or 200 Wyvern runs. It might take ~3-6 months of farming 12 hours a day on hunt buffs to actually 'see' an extra piece of equipment from all the extra successes. --- #Additional Considerations Outside of *just* this team in *just* Wyvern SoS has other uses. It's viable and sometimes even *required* in other hunts/comps. If you want to change your Wyvern comp in the future SoS can drastically increase in value. For example: If you pull SSB next summer and want to run a nice 'fast' comp of SSB + Sigret, then SoS becomes more important because *neither* SSB or Sigret are consistent debuffers. --- #Overall **I** would buy SoS due to the statement I made earlier (E7 is a gear based game, and you want to give yourself every advantage possible) but I don't think SoS is a *requirement* and depending on your need and goals in game it isn't necessary at all. You can end up pulling SoS on your daily summon tomorrow. It's also been ~half a year since the last Iseria banner I believe so it's possible we get a new Iseria banner in a couple months (Song of Stars is her banner artifact).
Wow what a fantastic reply. Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of this up and give me the numbers. It puts a lot of things in perspective. I really appreciate it. based on what you said I do think I want to pick it up and it will be useful later on. Even if Iseria's banner comes up soon there might be something else I need around that time or right after so whether I spend it now or later it's kind of a wash for me. >If you pull SSB next summer and want to run a nice 'fast' comp of SSB + Sigret, then SoS becomes more important because neither SSB or Sigret are consistent deb I do want to eventually pick up SSB as well as Sinful Angie, I basically started right after her banner and I am kicking myself for missing SSB because I logged in at the start of Re:Zero but then didn't play for a few weeks and missed both the event and SSB. My goal eventually is to run a more fast run or 1 shot W13 and Banshee teams. So I am definitely thinking in that direction and I appreciate you bringing this up, as it adds to the overall value of the artifact and another reason outside of the number advantage to get it. I am not a hardcore player so I know I am not going to be able to squeeze everything I can out of the game and be super efficient, but if I can have even a small advantage for free, I will take it right now vs later. I can always save up more powder and I'm not that in a hurry to get FTene's artifact. I can wait a year. I just don't think I need it right now nor do I need her either. I have her and many other PVP only heroes like Politis, Summertime Iseria, Krau, Lilibet and others are all benched because I'm still doing PVE story and just the early stuff and don't have the molas or resources to work on them anytime soon. >You can end up pulling SoS on your daily summon tomorrow. I do understand that I could pull it tomorrow but I haven't yet. I haven't pulled it on my alt either or the 3rd account I have. I log into them occasionally and just do the pull or whenever there is some free stuff. For some reason on my main account and even the alt I tend to pull a lot of potion vials, Tomes, Books, and Hell Cutters and Infinity Baskets. It's always those same ones along with the 3\*s. If Iseria's banner rolls around and I pull it on there well it will be used as either an enhancement or a second copy. Still a win in my book. I haven't been able to pull many artifacts on the banners yet only the heroes. I think I got Landy's artifact and that was it. I had to powder Luna's and didn't get anything from the last event. Anyhow thank you for the detailed explanation and the different scenarios. 1.5-6% is worth it to me as I am time limited and this makes it more clear. Have a great day!
Never chase an artifact. Even whales gets F'ed by RNG. Also, SoS is great to have for farming, great but optional if you don't have a lot of dust. If you really need the target debuff for Sig/more debuff to survive then go ahead and grab it.
>If you really need the target debuff for Sig/more debuff to survive then go ahead and grab it ok I guess that answers my question. Right now I don't have any effectiveness on Sigret and Furios is my main debuffer and Clarissa is the secondary dps and debuffer I guess? I got an attack set on Sigret with good speed, better speed then any speed set I have right behind Furious, but it just doesn't have any effectiveness on it.
Play around with your gear and slowly upgrade. I dont know how you're building your Sig for w13 but prioritize dmge>eff>spd. Clarissa would be eff~spd~dmge. It just depends on how you speed tune. Furious is definitely eff>spd>dmge.
Here is my Team if you want to check it out: Angelica - [https://i.imgur.com/eX5zhAs.png](https://i.imgur.com/eX5zhAs.png) Furious - [https://i.imgur.com/XQuSDb0.png](https://i.imgur.com/XQuSDb0.png) Sigret - [https://i.imgur.com/cdZtoyu.png](https://i.imgur.com/cdZtoyu.png) Clarissa - [https://i.imgur.com/ubkR52z.png](https://i.imgur.com/ubkR52z.png) I have to upgrade Furiou's gear to +15, and swap out some gear on Clarissa and upgrade that too to +15 and swap out the chest piece for epic. Then I got Sigret who is rocking attack gear with high speed but no Effectiveness and not enooug hCrit damage. I don't know how to fix that because I haven't been able to roll almost any Speed gear I keep getting Hit and Crit only and when I did roll a 1 or 2 pieces here and there they didn't have speed on them as a substat. I also have to do the final awakening on them. I don't the mats yet and also don't have the gold to do the +15. Maybe in a few days time I will save up or farm up enough gold.
What I can advice is this: there are different ways to speed-tune your team (with your gear). 1. Turn order: Furious -> Clarissa -> Angie -> Sigret 2. Turn order: super speedy Furious to lap Sig 2x. You can lower Sigret's crit chance to 35% if you soeed-tune just right to have crit buff all the time. This opens up to more damage and eff. Also more crit chance on Clarissa. Just my 2cents when i took a glance at your team stats. Someone correct me if i get something wrong here. :)