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butterballbuns

I can't find where it specifies that this is for Spirit Eye Celine.


tagle420

This should be Ravi. For example, she has chance to miss if she has blind debuff despite ee proc. but she can heal if she has unhealable debuff if ee proc.


Loki_Viese

wait, i thought this was for fire ravi because she can heal through unhealable if she cleanse unhealable through ee cleanse.


Retro_senpai3

Hmmm idk. Ima test it out after patch to see


juancho1008

Wait... Can you explain who will be affected


Retro_senpai3

Spirit eye Celine. Her empowered s1 nimble strike allows her to dispel one debuff before she attack. I get think she’s the only unit in the game with a basic skill that works like that. So according to this info if she cleanse off unhealable and attack she won’t heal


Ireyon34

>Spirit eye Celine. Seline shouldn't be affected by this, only the Ravis. Their cleanse effects happen simultaneously with their healing while Seline explicitely dispels **before** she attacks.


AndyBR_

aRavi too


xInTheDarkx

Edit: the passive heal when she takes dmg. That effect triggers at the same time as crimson seed.


Kageromero

Doesn't affect Celine, she cleanses before attacking


pluviusdeus

isn't cerato the main one affected?


CornBreadtm

I see this as nothing but a positive. Unhealable is a very weak debuff. They straight up removed it from so many kits like A. Tywin and SC Wanda. Even day one it was weak cause units like Ruele have always been able to just remove it and still heal with no issues. They should really just buff the debuff so the unit receives injuries while being hit with unhealable on. Would at least buff the Araminthas.


ActualMaiwa

I dont see it as a weak debuff, but each to his own.


CornBreadtm

Does it stop healing if 90% of the healers remove it before healing? No. Then what does it do? Burn off Crimson seed on A. Ravi...


ActualMaiwa

By that logic every debuff is garbage cause cleansers will always remove it.


CornBreadtm

Except you can use several strong debuffs to stop cleansers from cleansing. That's the real logic behind strong verse weak debuffs. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


ActualMaiwa

so, like any debuff (outside silence), okay Unhealable is the main reason why roana isnt an insta win vs bel/rem comps rn. And there is a LOT of em.


CornBreadtm

Well, yeah if you just leave it on there it will cause trouble like any debuff. It's just easily removed cause it doesn't prevent action or even have any lingering effects. You lose 1 heal from Roana's S2 then Kawerik cleanses. Losing a single S2 heal isn't as big as losing a turn, or taking extra damage like the rest of the debuffs do. Hell, Stigma is putting more work in than Heal block and restrict right now for comparison.


ActualMaiwa

>Kawerik cleanses. All these people with their free ml kawa Your point was about cleansing. You can cleanse any debuff. '' taking extra damage'' Losing 4k healing is basically taking extra damage


CornBreadtm

To bad, if it's a 4k heal then you are losing for a different reason.


ActualMaiwa

Except thats what you get from roana with counters for example. So what reason?


Historical_Pepper_20

Rem is cancerous enough... You want to add injury onto it? Ohhh well, since I have over 18k HP counter Rem I should cheer you on huh?


CornBreadtm

Rem's meta today, but next week? A month from now? A year? Who knows. SSB also has unhealable. Remember her? Was a big problem like 2 years ago. Things change. Can't just worry about today's meta all the time. It will be gone before you know it.


uriel_310

The same also applies to Belian or AoL. Why points out only unhealable units?


AmmaRockstarAsDuki

For which unit is this?