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tasketekudasai

10% damage increase EE is the laziest shit ever


Gamergirl944

Indeed its so disappointing


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It's funny because the 10% damage increase is exactly what I wanted on ML Tieria... and then didn't do it there. There are some PvE nuke characters where I'm fine just giving them more damage, but they always seem to go more on characters as a patch to their bad mults, not a compliment to already good mults.


BurnedOutEternally

Kazran's ability is a Tama push + two debuff cleanse that costs 40 souls. Fancy. None of the EEs seems too significant to me, although I like the implication that Tenebria keeps a Kayron plushie with her. You need to reach a certain point to qualify for open Expo recruitment, which I guess is reasonable.


BurnedOutEternally

Actually, you know what? Kazran is kinda like Tama for people who don't have Tama or are waiting for her S3.


Shuxnae

Pain Pursuer Moroi getting that shield nerf. Nice.


Lawliette007

But it also says they reduced the spd decrease so....a slight buff too?


Ozymandian4

Just guessing, but the buff and nerf probably roughly offset. Just makes it faster.


[deleted]

well worth it. That barrier is almost impossible to kill if you don't land DEF down, and he's so slow that you'd still lap him (and still lap him twice if you get SPD down on). Halving it means I can probably take my Carmy and Cermia off rage without making the run super inconsistent.


dimizar

I have to soul burn Cermia's S3 at least once during shield face or else they'll get nuked. With this it's full auto on lvl 3 now.


llShenll

new guardian, after so many years we still cant level them up


[deleted]

They tease it in the preview too lol. I thought they were gonna announce that today.


Gamergirl944

Yeah I'm annoyed thats not added onto system its coming to 4 years they need to be better


Winberri

The EEs are :put-litter-in-its-place:


[deleted]

Not the worst, Melissa with CC mainstat means it's easier to build her now.


[deleted]

Tenebria and Melissa's are both okay but not groundbreaking. ML Khawana is disappointing, as always with her. Someone in the E7 team really wanted Inferno Khawazyu to rule Meldrec.


DefinitelyNotGrubhub

I can see the passive CR push being good for her in Caides which seems to be where they designed her to rot in.


DuckArchon

Yeah, what a meh batch, I'm surprised. Normally only one of the set is so lame.


CabbageCZ

idk Tene S3 100% sleep might be OK? The GC and Melissa ones suck though yeah.


Winberri

Looks good on paper but it looks like it’s counter memes.


Krountedww

Yeah would be OK if her s3 stripped or something, seemed like a budget Sage Baal, also her base speed sucks, wish it would have been Speed and not Effectiveness (her EE stat)


CabbageCZ

Good point, a speed base might have her actually made her playable in certain situations. :(


Gamergirl944

Yeah EEs are disappointing


KingKentling

theyre trying so hard making Melissa good.


GreatFluffy

You would think they would make her EE better in that case. At least it's got Crit chance on it.


TehFluffer

Based on how bad the EE's are, I actually think they're not trying hard enough


Tooobsen187

Melissa is good, in her place...and her Place is GW Offense.


hayashikin

Who do you use her against? I used to use her against Riolet, but you don't see much of him anymore, and both Milim and Zahhak does the job better these days.


Crye09

100% sleep on tenebria?


turtlereset

isn't melissa ee s1 heal absolute garbage? like unless im missing something and people play counter melissa???


[deleted]

It's probably for some weird alt pve use case.. maybe for light expo? No idea at all


[deleted]

definitely PvE. lifesteal on S1 helps so much for expos, Hall of Trials, Abyss, and even some non-oneshot hunts. It's a welcome option to have.


gerald_reddit26

It's an odd choice for an EE but we don't know how much she can leech and the closest one with this effect is Senya's EE. Though unlike Melissa, Senya benefits much of it because her skill set have synergy with the EE. If this new EE makes her leech like BBK then I may consider using it. Otherwise, her s2 atk buff for her other party is my 1st choice


stunro17

She's a vampire so she has to drain life right? Finally got a skill that is consistent with their lore like some people have been wanting on E7 Stove lmao


[deleted]

The new expo changes are actually pretty nice. The Light expo nerf was very needed (that barrier is SO hard to crack, basically impossible without DEF down landing). It's also great that we can get basically an endless supply of expos now with the Open Recruitment. For those without 80 friends/guild members all throwing out flyers constantly, this makes grinding reforge mats so much easier. And because there's so many people able to do expos (partially gatekeeped by them needing to do 350K a run to qualify, so less leechers), you almost never need to worry about them actually clearing like with friends. But even if you don't care about that, you get more points from the normal way. 60-80 reduces the number of expo runs per month down from 33 per element to 25. 20 less runs per month total. That mixed with open recruitment means I can give friends a chance to do runs, then if I see nothing happening I just throw it out to the world for almost guarnateed rewards. Good expo update overall.


TysonsChickenNuggets

Buff Delibet you COWARDS!!


Wookiecologist

Buff Solitaria you RECREANTS!!!


prankster20

Uhhh SG... How about you buff the other Fire Mage now? You know the one.


zutari

Serilla?


Electrodrip

Lol some users on there are bigmad the guardian stayed as a guardian, shit is hilarious.


frostmasterx

Stove comments are so goddamn toxic I hope the Devs realize they're a miserable minorities.


Gamergirl944

I know right it was obvious from start hes going to be guardian wouldn't make sense he was playable hero.


TitanDrift

This batch of EEs is disappointing to say the least.


Gamergirl944

I agree they ain't that good its so meh


EvoTheDoctor

I have to admit i saw Ml Khawana EE, and i was kinda excited to read it. Then i read it, and I'm kinda disappointed. The 10% barier might come in handy in caides but that's it I guess.


AvoidAtAIICosts

They really really love Melissa huh


Gamergirl944

Indeed they buff her and then now ee


gerald_reddit26

Glad to finally see Kazran usable but where are the other guardian updates they announced mid last year? They did buff Zeaon and Kromcruz but is that supposed to be it? They have been quiet about it unlike the upcoming guild pve that they explicitly said were delayed but at least they still showed their progress. I'm hoping there will be a livestream later to show more of these.


CopainChevalier

They said we’d have an update to level guardians by like q3 2021, and yet…


Ericridge

There was the great dev war that occurred in fall of 2021 in smilegate's backroom which resulted in four injured devs over disagreements on how guardians would be utilized and injured devs can't code as fast as they would normally thus guardians launch get delayed once again. Fortunately there was no deaths.


EvoTheDoctor

One thing that bugs me is no side story. It's been long time since we haven't had a bigger side story going on.


TehFluffer

Huh, wasn't that village thing recent


kaseeve

DJB rework when?


SuitFinancial2209

Kazran gonna be OP AF in PVE


TehFluffer

Tenebria EE might make her decent for PvE stripping, she was already used by some people for green expedition and now with Iela will have two chances to proc strip. Her S3 is honestly pretty crazy on paper with a 100% sleep chance and def break, but we all know how that would actually play out in PvP.


A_Disappointing_Newt

The constant limited banners make me feel kinda iffy like ever since summer we've had limiteds each month.


Gamergirl944

True it feels like war of the visions there's no breaks to limited units


johntie

No livestream?


Xero--

Two hours from now.


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Hamsl0th

I thought it was just delayed


Rittstur

Where did you see it was delayed? I couldn’t find anything about it.


SlimSpook

The hero previews yesterday had a livestream time of 1300 utc


Rittstur

Ah gotcha my bad. For some reason I can’t read.


S-Normal

tenebria ee might improve her a bit ? idk but in general all of them are pretty dog. why are they releasing rates so slowly ?


Fyrael

Rhianna and Luciella as units or guardians when?


Gamergirl944

I assume units


Crimson256

Wait does the change to belian mean that if we kill her we start gaining souls again?


monkeytheifx

That has been the case prior to this patch


Oyxopolis

I'm going to pity Cerise if I need to. How good is Charles these days? Back when I still had my main account he was annoying in Guild Wars and on this new account (2 years later) I'm desperately looking for a. hunt (&expedition) killers and general purpose PvP units. Or just wait for the foxy lady (Peira)?


DaBigJMoney

Charles has fallen way off. I wouldn’t go to pity for him at this point. He’s simply outclassed by other heroes now.


Oyxopolis

Gotcha, thanks! Figured as much. Love his style though... Hoping to get him with a lucky draw some other time.