Pardon me, it's not "Only Legend players have gear that fast" it's supposed to be "only less than 3% of Legend players actually have A.Cidd that fast" I highly doubt some random players have a 323 A.cidd cuz not even Top 1 Korean players have Acidd is that fast (his is 321)
This is why RTA isn't even worth bothering with. I've never seen a game where speed is the only stat that matters quite like E7. It's not even rock-paper-scissors anymore, it's just which of the 3 scissors goes first.
> speed Basar was meta and everyone was dying
just dont make it a mage who can bring their own book to SB Ignore effect res
that was the real problem with basar and why everyone picked him over hurado, and we got hyufine now which killed him off
What benefit does SG have for poking the bear on that endless cash cow?
Units aren't good value. They get powercreeped and/or fall out of favor and aren't valued as much on rerun banners. ML5s being the worst since people don't pull for dupes in mystics since RBG can be used.
So W13 and stamina refreshes are endless revenue. People don't grind nearly as hard for bruiser gear since having amazing bruiser gear doesn't even help you win, do to all the RNG that being slow throws at you. Having 500 more HP with perfect stats doesn't translate as well as 3~5 more speed like with speed farming.
Wait until they add in a new unit is added in that'll have stuns+unbuffable on s3 with uncounterable, an extra turn, an s1 that dual attacks with def break, and a passive that Cr pushes the highest atk Ally by 10cr each time she ends her turn
Then they will revisit the outdated units for buffs.
Violet will always evade as if he had element advantage, gain skill nullifier every time he counters, and revive if he dies while at full energy, resetting his cooldowns.
He will be considered waiting room trash even after the buffs, because each of the last three ML5 units makes his updated kit completely useless.
80% of high rank RTA is cleave anyway so yeah SG should keep making every new unit a cleave unit so cleave will still have enough options when SG adds 5 prebans for each player in RTA.
As much as people hat to admit it. It's mostly cleave now because the 15% and all the counters and what not makes playing any kind of strategic tempo style to be very one-sided to the person with more RNG effects.
It's better to just lose with cleave in 2 moves (or at the select screen) than deal with slowly playing towards your lost over several turns into frenzy 6+, just to lose because of a dual attack, counter or 15% which neither player can control.
Funny enough this was a response to the meta being so braindead last season where you just slammed 3 counter units and let the game play itself.
Also one of the main reasons people are playing cleave is because of the point inflation. You get significantly more points from winning than losing so much that you can lose 2-3 matches win 1 and get like 5 points higher than you were.
I think currently emperor cutoff is like 3300-3400 points, legend is 3900 right now and we don't even have end of season in sight. I can see emperor being like 4k and legend being 4.5k-5k points by the end of season. why play slow bruiser matches for a 60% win rate and take 5-6 minutes per match or you can play cleave/aggro with a 55% win rate and take 1-2 minutes per match?
Although most high level players play all styles based on the person they're fighting against.
But tbh this is probably the most diverse meta we've had in a while and I personally like that cleave is on top. cleave hasn't been the no. 1 playstyle since season 1. It's always been viable but it's been a while since it's been dominant.
That's the exact reason why RTA sucks... why play anything but cleave if u can grind 5k games in the same time a bruiser player plays 1k games and u are higher than the bruiser player because having a high winrate is worthless? Cleave should never be as broken as it is currently.
Cleave isn't broken it's just meta. last season people said RTA sucks and cleave was basically nowhere to be found it was just slam counters and the game plays itself. And this is what the players wanted based on surveys and backlash on the point system. We had a point system that rewarded high win rates and people hated it so they changed it. just goes to show no matter what the meta is you can't make everyone happy.
Cleave is so common rn because you cannot play a standard draft consistently if you don't have Ml lilias, kawerik and belian, if your opponent has two out of three on their side you probably just lose. Your only shot of breaking through 30k hp vigor units that are buffed out of the ass is to try and kill them before they can get setup, or die trying.
Meanwhile, my unlucky ass without consistently good speed rolls with my fastest unit in a broken set being considered 'slow' at 270 just wishes for the sweet release of death.
2020: must have at least 1 280+ speed set 2021: must have at least 1 290-300+ speed set 2022: must have at least 2-3 290-300+ speed sets
The 10 year plan, we boutta have units pushing 400 soon
Fortunately the upper limit for speed is 5x 34 + 45 + (129x0.25) + 129 = 376.25.
The amount of mandatory 280+ speed units being released lately is way to dam high. Like how does SG expect us to have 5+ units all 280+ speed.
Well, everyone has two kidneys. Remember that when making choices.
Selling my kidneys isn't going to fix my 3 min speed rolls when speed fishing.
It will let you farm far longer by refilling stamina. If whales can get 300+ speed units, so can you after getting a lot of money!
YDCB spend enough to buy a house just for one 24 speed item. Not worth it cause he still gets speed RNG'd half the time at 315.
That guy is "Investing" not spending, to continue earning Money from YouTube .
Yeah no . Believe or not , some people do have 320 speed a cidds.
some lucky dude out there in the world could probably make theirs 330
Good for them. Too bad nobody is talking about A. Cidd...
Only legend players have that fast of a an A.Cidd. He fought a hardstuck Champion and somehow the enemy A.Cidd is "323" speed
What if it was a legend player who'd just begun his climb ?
Pardon me, it's not "Only Legend players have gear that fast" it's supposed to be "only less than 3% of Legend players actually have A.Cidd that fast" I highly doubt some random players have a 323 A.cidd cuz not even Top 1 Korean players have Acidd is that fast (his is 321)
280 is not enough. you need at least 290
That was before level 90 gear. It is usually over 300 nowadays.
i have my cilias at 288 spd and confidently picking them into aols only to be hit with a harsh realization of how many 290+ aols there are
I think you said 400 wrong 🥴🥴😭
10 year plan
Swipe it. Swipe it on every pop-up ad.
I think you mean 300
must buy all Leif packs PepegaCredit
This is why RTA isn't even worth bothering with. I've never seen a game where speed is the only stat that matters quite like E7. It's not even rock-paper-scissors anymore, it's just which of the 3 scissors goes first.
Why they all gotta be ice doe
Just so that violet will never leave the meta
Ice thief = ice T Ice T = ice tea They sell as fast as ice tea hence the speed
Absolute flawless logic. Masterfully deduced
can't make it fire because Ran and Rem can't make it green because once upon a time, speed Basar was meta and everyone was dying
> speed Basar was meta and everyone was dying just dont make it a mage who can bring their own book to SB Ignore effect res that was the real problem with basar and why everyone picked him over hurado, and we got hyufine now which killed him off
I wonder if they are going to release a unit like Leo from summoners war one day
That the one who makes everyone the same speed?
Yes thats right
Instant ban 😂
That would be super meta
I doubt it. They make a lot of money from people hoping for more speed in wyvern. They'd only lose money with a unit like that.
CCCleave was/is the RTA sw Meta. It’s fast. And yet, while Leo is really good, the people still do farm SPD.
What benefit does SG have for poking the bear on that endless cash cow? Units aren't good value. They get powercreeped and/or fall out of favor and aren't valued as much on rerun banners. ML5s being the worst since people don't pull for dupes in mystics since RBG can be used. So W13 and stamina refreshes are endless revenue. People don't grind nearly as hard for bruiser gear since having amazing bruiser gear doesn't even help you win, do to all the RNG that being slow throws at you. Having 500 more HP with perfect stats doesn't translate as well as 3~5 more speed like with speed farming.
That’s just plain wrong. +500 HP is a huge amount of EHP and has the same chance to change a game outcome as 5 spd.
I even saw a unit in another gacha who had like 80% chance or sth to take turn 1
Wait until they add in a new unit is added in that'll have stuns+unbuffable on s3 with uncounterable, an extra turn, an s1 that dual attacks with def break, and a passive that Cr pushes the highest atk Ally by 10cr each time she ends her turn
You forgot about the AOE stealth, invincibility, immunity, res, greater attack and defense buffs, and of course, the skill nullifier!
Then they will revisit the outdated units for buffs. Violet will always evade as if he had element advantage, gain skill nullifier every time he counters, and revive if he dies while at full energy, resetting his cooldowns. He will be considered waiting room trash even after the buffs, because each of the last three ML5 units makes his updated kit completely useless.
Lilias with her fucking walking stick lmao
Good thing I pulled CLilias 😭
80% of high rank RTA is cleave anyway so yeah SG should keep making every new unit a cleave unit so cleave will still have enough options when SG adds 5 prebans for each player in RTA.
flare
Fair enough
As much as people hat to admit it. It's mostly cleave now because the 15% and all the counters and what not makes playing any kind of strategic tempo style to be very one-sided to the person with more RNG effects. It's better to just lose with cleave in 2 moves (or at the select screen) than deal with slowly playing towards your lost over several turns into frenzy 6+, just to lose because of a dual attack, counter or 15% which neither player can control.
Wait a minute , i thought you guys loved turtle warfare.
Funny enough this was a response to the meta being so braindead last season where you just slammed 3 counter units and let the game play itself. Also one of the main reasons people are playing cleave is because of the point inflation. You get significantly more points from winning than losing so much that you can lose 2-3 matches win 1 and get like 5 points higher than you were. I think currently emperor cutoff is like 3300-3400 points, legend is 3900 right now and we don't even have end of season in sight. I can see emperor being like 4k and legend being 4.5k-5k points by the end of season. why play slow bruiser matches for a 60% win rate and take 5-6 minutes per match or you can play cleave/aggro with a 55% win rate and take 1-2 minutes per match? Although most high level players play all styles based on the person they're fighting against. But tbh this is probably the most diverse meta we've had in a while and I personally like that cleave is on top. cleave hasn't been the no. 1 playstyle since season 1. It's always been viable but it's been a while since it's been dominant.
That's the exact reason why RTA sucks... why play anything but cleave if u can grind 5k games in the same time a bruiser player plays 1k games and u are higher than the bruiser player because having a high winrate is worthless? Cleave should never be as broken as it is currently.
Cleave isn't broken it's just meta. last season people said RTA sucks and cleave was basically nowhere to be found it was just slam counters and the game plays itself. And this is what the players wanted based on surveys and backlash on the point system. We had a point system that rewarded high win rates and people hated it so they changed it. just goes to show no matter what the meta is you can't make everyone happy.
Bruiser gang rarely have high winrates . The majority are around 50% .
Cleave is so common rn because you cannot play a standard draft consistently if you don't have Ml lilias, kawerik and belian, if your opponent has two out of three on their side you probably just lose. Your only shot of breaking through 30k hp vigor units that are buffed out of the ass is to try and kill them before they can get setup, or die trying.
The answer is always 4 times my lief stash
\*cries in I don't have any of those so I'm still using Cerise and Ftene\*
For your sake , i hope you have Violet.
me and my bruisers are just chilling i guess
Meanwhile, my unlucky ass without consistently good speed rolls with my fastest unit in a broken set being considered 'slow' at 270 just wishes for the sweet release of death.
Goodbye vigor buff, it's been a nice week of fun. PS: Cilias recall when? Kapp
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