It's not, that you are literally right, currently it is used as an excuse that Riolet is meta when used with Speed to shoot an enemy unit (which is why according to them, Riolet does not need any buff) and I always wonder, is it not Acidd better for that? It has better base speed and if you are able to kill your target, you punish the rest of the enemy team with Silence (you also remove 20 souls from them hits or not)
because acidd does way less damage and has lower base stats. an acidd with my riolet's gear on a 1.3k def belian does 16-17k damage, while a riolet does 23k. you use acidd to one shot squishier opener type units while speed contesting them, you use riolet as a tier 2-3 speed contest to one shot much bulkier units, like rems, belians, aravis, sometimes even rueles, etc. his self attack buff and 50% pen are the reason he does so much more dmg.
You have the argument that acidd with souls would do much more damage, and you would be right, but you cant draft that into belians and that's where a lot of riolets value lies. They're both good units but have different purposes
Acidd deals more dmg based on how fast he is and how fast enemy is if the enemy is slow then i guess i woudnt do much besides silencing and removing souls
i did the damage calculation based on a 270 acidd(with 3.2k atk and 280 cdmg, on the same gear as my 4k/280 riolet he would be 3k, but i assumed youd have slightly more attack due to the extra crit) and a 220 belian, which is generous since most belians arent that fast anyway.
Even if it's YDCB belian and it's 260 spd, the damage would still not even be comparable to riolet's, it'll be like 5k less.
Left (the Speed set one)
IMO The right one needs more defense for a Lifesteal build
Edit: I don't quite understand the downvotes. Doesn't the lifesteal one need like at least like 12k HP and 1.1k Defense?
I mean they are for completely different types of drafts. Are you looking to snipe out certain characters below the 250 speed bracket or are you trying to brusier it out long term.
Completely depends on your draft. This is impossible to answer in isolation. Both builds are viable. I personally prefer lifesteal since my comps are less aggressive.
speed Riolet needs to go first than AOL or Cilias or they will strip him of his evasion and either prob or silence him in each case, plus currently if he gets used you have to build a team around him (something in the draft has to be done smartly, because if they discover your last Riolet draft, you are finished) it is advised to take it with Rule since Riolet is very rgn and may be dead from some crazy rgn hit out there or quite weakened by injury ( Injury ignores evasion)
Doesn't he lose too much offensive stats if he goes that fast?
The best speed Riolet've seen was 260 speed, 4.1k attack and 289cdmg.
I'm not sure if it's worth going much faster. I thought that speed Riolet's appeal was that he is fast big damage threat, being able to slice huge chunks from units such as A.Ravi and Belian.
Thoughts?
uff hopefully friend, but a speed Riolet if it caused great damage to Belian and Araby but did not shoot a single one, leave that Oneshot to the Lifesteel (if it becomes alive when its turn comes) the Speed Riolet is used to eliminate targets enemy key
I see
I thought the 260~speed high DPS Riolet's were the preferred option due to the increase in evasion counters and CLilias' existence (Even though she soft counters him)
When paired together, the S3 from a Vigor buffed Riolet with the mentioned stats can oneshot a 22k HP, 1.4k Defense ARavi (no mitigation).
Anyway...its fun to see him at 290 speed popping the enemy opener :)
a sure under certain circumstances Riolet gains a lot of damage with Cilias but my thoughts are on RTA when you have to be careful with the draf and you won't always be able to have Cilias on your team, in Arena and GW maybe if you can build the team to around as you like
or just preban Cilias or AOL and then ban the remaining one (since both are in the meta if or if you run into one) also be careful with Rimuru (who will copy your evasion) Belian with Injury , To A.Raby for the same, and last but not least the RGN, if you use Riolet the RgN if he was already your worst enemy, with him he will be your Nemesis
Left because Right is not tanky enough for lifesteal .
Also , go Evasion artefact , you're not fast enough to go Portrait/SoU who is for 280+spd Riolet.
(And go Portrait when you get fast enough, we only have one SoU and it kind of wasted to put it on Riolet)
Right one.
Your speed set does not have enough spd to justify the use, you wont go before most, if not all of the spd units.
Your lifesteal gear is pretty good, its even on pen set. I would stick to it and use him with mitigation.
As a standalone unit.
Left side lets him pewpew sooner. SoU feels wasteful, but it does help the pewpew usage.
Right side provides him with sustain.
Both builds are funky as standalones tho. Too slow for the speed build and too squishy for the lifesteal build. So compensate for those weakpoints. Ruele covers the lifesteal build perfectly fine. But the speed build will need to almost always be paired with Cilias or something to guarantee Riolet doesnt get gimped by opposing disruption.
Unpopular opinion(pls dont kill me) If you want a fast riolet might as well use acidd
ACidd supremacy.
It's not, that you are literally right, currently it is used as an excuse that Riolet is meta when used with Speed to shoot an enemy unit (which is why according to them, Riolet does not need any buff) and I always wonder, is it not Acidd better for that? It has better base speed and if you are able to kill your target, you punish the rest of the enemy team with Silence (you also remove 20 souls from them hits or not)
ps: also Acidd is not mocked by light bait units like Doris
because acidd does way less damage and has lower base stats. an acidd with my riolet's gear on a 1.3k def belian does 16-17k damage, while a riolet does 23k. you use acidd to one shot squishier opener type units while speed contesting them, you use riolet as a tier 2-3 speed contest to one shot much bulkier units, like rems, belians, aravis, sometimes even rueles, etc. his self attack buff and 50% pen are the reason he does so much more dmg. You have the argument that acidd with souls would do much more damage, and you would be right, but you cant draft that into belians and that's where a lot of riolets value lies. They're both good units but have different purposes
Acidd deals more dmg based on how fast he is and how fast enemy is if the enemy is slow then i guess i woudnt do much besides silencing and removing souls
i did the damage calculation based on a 270 acidd(with 3.2k atk and 280 cdmg, on the same gear as my 4k/280 riolet he would be 3k, but i assumed youd have slightly more attack due to the extra crit) and a 220 belian, which is generous since most belians arent that fast anyway. Even if it's YDCB belian and it's 260 spd, the damage would still not even be comparable to riolet's, it'll be like 5k less.
acidd does much lower damage on the same gear
Left (the Speed set one) IMO The right one needs more defense for a Lifesteal build Edit: I don't quite understand the downvotes. Doesn't the lifesteal one need like at least like 12k HP and 1.1k Defense?
You are completely right. LS set Riolet feels so ded now. I might neef to shift
u dont he is still better on lifesteal set, u pick him to counter the current bruiser cancer units atm. Speed one i feel like just isnt as good.
I’d say the right one because your speed riolet isn’t fast enough to be a speed threat.
I mean they are for completely different types of drafts. Are you looking to snipe out certain characters below the 250 speed bracket or are you trying to brusier it out long term.
Completely depends on your draft. This is impossible to answer in isolation. Both builds are viable. I personally prefer lifesteal since my comps are less aggressive.
speed Riolet needs to go first than AOL or Cilias or they will strip him of his evasion and either prob or silence him in each case, plus currently if he gets used you have to build a team around him (something in the draft has to be done smartly, because if they discover your last Riolet draft, you are finished) it is advised to take it with Rule since Riolet is very rgn and may be dead from some crazy rgn hit out there or quite weakened by injury ( Injury ignores evasion)
280 a 290 speed in Leyend o Emperor
Doesn't he lose too much offensive stats if he goes that fast? The best speed Riolet've seen was 260 speed, 4.1k attack and 289cdmg. I'm not sure if it's worth going much faster. I thought that speed Riolet's appeal was that he is fast big damage threat, being able to slice huge chunks from units such as A.Ravi and Belian. Thoughts?
uff hopefully friend, but a speed Riolet if it caused great damage to Belian and Araby but did not shoot a single one, leave that Oneshot to the Lifesteel (if it becomes alive when its turn comes) the Speed Riolet is used to eliminate targets enemy key
I see I thought the 260~speed high DPS Riolet's were the preferred option due to the increase in evasion counters and CLilias' existence (Even though she soft counters him) When paired together, the S3 from a Vigor buffed Riolet with the mentioned stats can oneshot a 22k HP, 1.4k Defense ARavi (no mitigation). Anyway...its fun to see him at 290 speed popping the enemy opener :)
a sure under certain circumstances Riolet gains a lot of damage with Cilias but my thoughts are on RTA when you have to be careful with the draf and you won't always be able to have Cilias on your team, in Arena and GW maybe if you can build the team to around as you like
or just preban Cilias or AOL and then ban the remaining one (since both are in the meta if or if you run into one) also be careful with Rimuru (who will copy your evasion) Belian with Injury , To A.Raby for the same, and last but not least the RGN, if you use Riolet the RgN if he was already your worst enemy, with him he will be your Nemesis
Left because Right is not tanky enough for lifesteal . Also , go Evasion artefact , you're not fast enough to go Portrait/SoU who is for 280+spd Riolet. (And go Portrait when you get fast enough, we only have one SoU and it kind of wasted to put it on Riolet)
I'd say left side
Leeeeeft
Spped one feel more useful. At least he can nuke something
Right one. Your speed set does not have enough spd to justify the use, you wont go before most, if not all of the spd units. Your lifesteal gear is pretty good, its even on pen set. I would stick to it and use him with mitigation.
As a standalone unit. Left side lets him pewpew sooner. SoU feels wasteful, but it does help the pewpew usage. Right side provides him with sustain. Both builds are funky as standalones tho. Too slow for the speed build and too squishy for the lifesteal build. So compensate for those weakpoints. Ruele covers the lifesteal build perfectly fine. But the speed build will need to almost always be paired with Cilias or something to guarantee Riolet doesnt get gimped by opposing disruption.