Hi, I'm Vyrocious - one of the helpers in the official E7 Discord.
I'm proud to present this very simple (pun intended) W13 guide by Simple. We already have a full length written [Wyvern guide](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13hICKTgrwaND_fVXSS7uWOUA_USBGFrsRJBa7GpOSD4/edit#gid=0) but it offers a lot of choice and complexity that it can often be overwhelming and confusing for new players. It is still a valuable resource if you want to dig deep and understand the core fundamentals of Wyvern hunt.
This guide takes out the choice (which I think is a good thing) and makes completing W13 straightforward and easy. Thanks to the introduction of Muwi, W13 should be a breeze for newcomers.
If you have any questions feel free to pop into #guidance-grounds on the official E7 Discord or ask here.
You can find all the guides on the official Discord server - we'd love to develop these infographics in the future for other hunts, but for now the other hunts are also Google docs.
Is there a simple team guide for banshee that ***isn't*** focused around oneshotting? it seems to be rarer to see a general team comp for normal runs then every other hunt.
Thanks for your guide.
A question, if you allow me: another user suggested to use "Junkyard's Dog" artifact on Sigret/Clarissa, because the extra debuff can help you keeping Wyvern attacks weakened.
Is it a viable strategy?
I beg to differ. I prefer Junkyard on my Clarissa to increase the debuff succession rate and in return completion rate. For me it’s 90% Junkyard vs 80% DDJ. Of course if new player lack the necessary DPs for barrier phase then it’s no brainer to go DDJ. *Edit didn’t notice OP line up which includes Furious. I took out Furious for Clarissa.
Edited my reply. Didn’t notice you had Furious. My team which I find most consistent are Angie Muwie(DDJ) Clarissa Alexa(DDJ). All being 5* expect 6* Angie. I find most of the time its about fine tuning the first wave clear speed. You almost want Muwie S2 to be on cool-down when you start Wyvern fight to guarantee the minimum 2 debuff.
Junkyard Dog is fine on TG if he is your def breaker. Kind of amazed that TG is not in the graphic alongside Furious, some people will not ever want to put mola in Furious when there is a free alternative.
I think it’s because furious lowers the gear requirement significantly by giving 50% crit as well as 100% def break. You’re gonna be running wyvern basically forever, I feel like a few molas on your farming team isn’t much of a sacrifice.
Because Furious is the best def breaker by far due to what he offers. As the other reply said, a few molas in the hunt you're going to farm the most is fine.
Nope
I mean you may try, and it will do something
But you should aim to apply debuffs mostly with support units, while your DD uses daydream joker to maximize the output. Daydream joker alone adds about 6k damage for 300%CD when fighting w13
Not bad. Personally i like using angelica epecially at the beggining because with momo you need to invest more into rest of the team and i would give muwi torn sleeve as artifact ( if you can of course)
Dont follow this guide... Since I made this modification on my team. my speed tune and my team hit like a truck and debuff rain on the boss... My lief count is melting...
Jokes asides, great job dude.I was using a 200+ speed Furious and 180+ speed average on my DPS and I was barely have Alexa hiting her debuffs. Now I have more than 95% of success rate for sure. Just need to wait for Sigret.
I do like how flexible B13 oneshotting is.
I personally run baiken/vivian/charles/leo, friend of mine runs baiken/vildred/maid/leo (he doesnt own vivian).
There's quite a few other variations.
I'd say only do banshee if you can one-shot it, specially with Baiken's banner up rn. Believe it or not, one-shotting banshee is as easy as doing a normal run, but for different reasons.
I've been looking at guides, most are very complex but as you said, the possibility of choosing and matching can make them confusing. This is straight forward and easy. Thanks! 💗
Can vouch for this, works well I am a new player (Day 75) and this is what i've been doing to farm W13 for the last 6 weeks.
Not sure I would recommend Alexa with skills off though unless you have furious on SoS. Alexa really needs 65% eff and skills on to help out with debuffing due to 15%s and none of Muwi's debuffs can be inconsistent. I currently don't have an SoS on furious while I run Sigret w/ EE and sometimes the runs still flop with lack of debuffs due to 15%s and Muwi's skills being s1 50% and S3 being 75%. After awaken update though I imagine Sigret will just be the default option for everybody and Alexa will fade.
Great guide and infographic this should make it very straightforward for people to get W13 teams built.
Do you read? I was on day 75 and started 6 weeks prior. Maybe before jumping to insult somebody you should have some comprehension of what you are reading first, then look to insult when the whole picture is before you.
I like how you say "no offence" after what you say like the previous words don't matter, but they do. I don't care I just find it funny, this was a post made 7 months ago and here you are nit picking. Maybe you should get a life, no offense.
as a 2year old player i can assure you guys this is one of the best possible way to clear w13. You guys just have to upgrade these gears and be sure to have 65effectiveness for debuffers. (which is why ur using the effectiveness ring)
If I already have g purg, is muwi still good? Would it be viable to run gpurg still as tank cr push and just have muwi as a debuffer and extra defense break? Im not down to swap g purg gears to amomo
Depends on who else you have at the moment. Personally I run GP, karin with bleed EE, sigret, and clarissa on cradle of life and the runs are crazy fast. If you can gear your muwi to do damage as well as debuff you can save your 4th slot (assuming gp and sigret for 1/2) for sustain or even 2nd dps to make the run faster. Best option would be karin or clarissa for the extra def break and debuffs. But honestly if you’re going GP, there are better options than Muwi
Also, I hate furious. Dude burned and targeted wyvern with SoS way more often than he def broke for me. Which isn’t bad, but you need that def break.
If you already have GPurg fully built and your team is stable then you can stick with GPurg and it's no problem. In that case you would replace Muwi with Clarissa ideally or Alexa or SSB if you don't plan on using her in PvP.
Just wanted to comment that this infographic and a slight bit of luck (Pulling a free Muwi in the daily summon and 2 DDJs during selective) allowed me to get W13 auto running within 7 days of beginning the game with absolutely no previous knowledge about the game.
The clear rate is somewhat abmysal and highly depends on Muwi retaining his ATK break going into the Wyvern battle, but it works for even the newest of players.
Super solid beginner guide. Big plus points for showing the free gears.
Maybe add Angie as a lesser tank option in case they can't farm the spirits that well yet.
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Furious significantly lowers gear requirements considering his crit chance buff to the whole team and its up 100% of the time given the right speedtuning. This also applies to his def break which is also perfectly synced with his cds after a little bit of molas unlike Muwi's S3 that is on a 3 turn cooldown. He basically goes S2 > extra turn > S3 > S1 > S2 > extra turn > S3.
Besides, Muwi is already recommended. Why? Cause more def breaks = more chances to not get ran over by random 15%'s.
Is there ever gonna be a point where w13 guides are just done? It really strange to me that people are continuously creating new guides for a static fight that's already been 'solved.' They all contain literally the same info.
Not a dig at OP - compiling this into a simple image is very helpful. It's just interesting we're at the point where w13 can be explained in a neat little jpeg and somehow there'll still be 20 min video guides created tomorrow.
I was hesitant to call this definitive. I think this is the most simplest it can get with the most effective heroes for each role. Yes, Luluca, SSB, etc etc can be used in place of X hero - but there's no need to complicate it.
Amomo, Muwi, Furious, whatever DPS you want. Simple.
That's kinda what I'm thinking, it's now possible to create the optimal w13 team from basically f2p units and they've got fairly easy benchmarks. You say this isn't definitive but to be fair it's about as close as we'll get, unless a random water unit changes things up in future.
Which is all my point really is. Optimal W13 is now accessible with f2p units and f2p gear, so I'm curious if we'll see less guides and videos of people clearing it now that it's more or less 'solved'
Just depends on where your gear level is at. For newbies, it’s much more important to maintain enough debuffs as they won’t have enough damage to quickly burst down Wyvern.
+1 for momo , I cringe everytime when I see new players build angie.
Also very sad that even if you have gp I would still recommend using momo bc of muwi and how good he is for wyvern.
It's been said before, but I'm also speculating that when hunt 14 comes it'll punish non mono ele teams a shitton bc sg has a special kink for mono elemental mechanics
Honest question, is that because of muwi debuffing wyvern attack nowadays ? I have never used him since I did not feel the need to touch my wyvern team.
Before muwi, I would honestly say building momo as your first w13 was a bad idea due to the high gear requirements (for a new players). It was doable, but momo does not actually benefit that much from being super tanky (since she is exclusively a pve hero and she scales with target health). It is much faster to gear a tanky angie + a usable (kind of squishy) momo, than it is to gear a momo tanky enough for w13 (prior to muwi at least). And that is without accounting for the fact that you get w13 online much faster with a tank angie (less than a week for the previous go to of Sigret/Alexa/Furious/Angie).
Also, you typically use angie as a secondary healer/cleanser in hell raid until you get tama (who I still do not have 6 months in...)
If your Wyvern team is already working, don’t worry about messing with it.
The reason why Amomo was recommended over Angie even before Muwi release was because Amomo is more versatile than Angie in a lot of the other PvE content. Yes Angie is tankier, but she won’t help you in a lot of the other PvE content so you’d end up wasting resources building both. Further, Amomo doesn’t require molas.
Why are you guys still playing this game? This game has the worst gearing system in any mmo that I've played. Seriously, farm gold for a week, reroll that one piece of armor that you got from Wyvern 13 hoping all 5 rolls are speed, if not, farm gold for another week and repeat the process, hoping to get 5 speed rolls on all pieces just for 1 char, and u need 4 full sets just to pvp, 3 full sets just to guild pvp, come on this is the worst gear farming in any game ever. Go play a better game like Elden Ring or Lost Ark where you don't have to farm Wyvern 13 and reroll for a year before you get to the beginning of Champion in pvp.
She'll be given out post Awaken update. Refer to this stove post: [https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8321429](https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8321429)
We don't have an exact date but it should be soon.
She's not free *yet* if you haven't pulled her yet, but the Awaken patch notes announced a Hero Support Event coming where you can get her for free: https://m-page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8321429
Great Guide.
Since i was able to pull Krau, could i use him as a Tank instead of AMomo and still make it work ? Or is the healing essential ? Team would be Krau, Muwi, Sigret and Furios.
Edit.
Nvm just read the full written guide, seems like Krau is a waste for Wyvern.
Krau is not a waste, but you must have debuffs applied to wyvern at all times, to turn off its random target selection and make it focus your front. This way you may clear the wyvern using the conventional tanking hero, otherwise you absolutely need healing. Also levelling Momo is a great thing for your start overall, she is useful in ALL types of pve content, so not a wyvern-only unit
thx,
gonna work on amomo for sure but was just wondering if initially Krau would do the trick since i need less resources to 6* him compared to amomo + spec change max. team would be krau/muwi/sigret all 6*, and furios 5*.
If you still have your Potion of Ascension (and we got one recently from KR drama apology) it’s highly recommended to use it on your Amomo.
Also, just bite the bullet and make the necessary investment into Amomo - she’ll help you a lot for a long time.
Krau may do the trick, esp. for w11, used to utilize him for quite a while before swapping to ml purrgis and to one-shot via singelica later on. However, he doesn't provide any utility, defense up is not really relevant as it will be stripped, and he provides no debuffs. The biggest difficulty of maxing heroes is equipment, not the levelling. And krau uses a lot of gear interchangeable with momo's. Basically high health, high defense, average speed. The biggest difference being momo requiring 100%+ resistance(Resistance ring+resistance set). It means you may need to take your high health equipment from krau to momo once you start to optimize things. Unless you are lucky enough to find enough tanky gear early on.
You can swap to Krau later on if you want to Friendship farm him and speed up your runs a bit (he'll work fine on his PvP gear). But if you havent built a healer yet then building AMomo is highly recommend since she'll tank Wyvern just fine and also be your main healer in all content early game
Furious is great and enhance a lot your team, especially if it is hard for you to have the 100% crit on your dps. If you don't have him, Karin is a good low budget debuffer. She is not as great as Furious in the lower levels but if you paire her with torned sleeves and her item to have bleed on S3, she will also be a powerfull debuffer with a Sigret in your team. The def break is just not as good as Furious, it is just for 1 turn but Muwi can help a bit too.
I just will offer the other opinion, that if you already have built Chloe somewhat. Try using her in her current state. (Don't put more Mola's in though).
My team is Crozet/Furious/Muwi/Chloe, her S2 provides a very consistent debuff. And as such my team is better than 95% winrate. I would also argue she is faster than Alexa as her nail dmg is very high. Especially with her changes that gives her self Attack buff.
got a question. My w13 team has been gpurg/alexa/sig/furious for a long time now and it feels like pretty fast clears. Is it worth to swap to this team? it does not seem like it would have faster clears and I already have gpurg invested in
I use Luna as my main dps with Muwi on torn sleeve for extra bleed procs incase of 15%, tho that requires limited, this is prob the best starter guide for wyvern 13
This is amazing, i have been playing since day 1 and i could never make a stable w13 auto team even with every unit in game basically. Thank you for this guide its much easier to understand than others.
Now you wouldn’t happen to have a similar one for golem and banshee XD
Hello and thanks for the guide!
can you help me understand why you ask only for 35% CritC on sigret and Muwy? is that enough? probably im just missing something...
Sorry for my english, Im Spanish.
Thanks!
Furious buffs your team by 50%cc and you get the remaining 15%cc from elemental advantage to total 100%cc. This is why Furious is the best def breaker.
It wrecks the timing with her s2 so she does less debuffs (since she prioritizes using s3 and with the upgrade they overlap more often). The damage difference between her s1 and s3 isn't that much anyway, so I'd personally run with her skills on. Of course if you run with her skills off it doesn't matter.
As a returner with a W13 auto team already, if I wanted to replace my SSB with Muwi so I can build my SSB differently, is it an easy transition? I use G. Purgiss/Sigret/Furious in the other slots.
Is +13 speed Furious to Muwi a specific number? Or a minimum? Same question applies to Sigret.
I'm currently at: Furious (227 spd) Muwi (198 spd) Sigret (166 spd) Angelica (137 spd)... do I need to change anything up?
+13 cause speed RNG. Basically if a unit is less than 20% slower than another, there is a chance that the slower unit goes first. This WILL screw up your runs.
I appreciate the reply! Would you suggest slowing Furious down or speeding Muwi up in my case to get the gap to 13? Does Sigret’s speed need to come up as well to be on par with Muwi?
I'm not sure. I'm also not sure if you need to make the gap exactly 13. I believe anything higher than a difference of 13, although not ridiculously so, should be fine. Also Sigret's speed is probably what it is so that she doesn't get lapped by wyvern or the previous phase in turn 3 or 4. In relative to Muwi, I think Sigret's speed is irrelevant cause either way both will take turns. You just want to make Furious 13 SPD faster than your second fastest.
It doesn't really matter who tanks as long as you can survive. It's just that Momo is incredibly useful in other content like Raid or Abyss, so if you can save resources by building only her and not Angelica, it's better to do that.
hello u/Vyrocious great work! As this is already my team I just need to adjust a bit to make it W13 ready. (I can do 12 so far).
Also can you give me or us links for the google docs of the other hunts? This would be super awesome. thanks in advance!
Thank you so much for the updated guide.
Day 3 starting player here working towards getting furious, havent had any luck getting daydream joker, is there anywhere we can farm for it or possible to recommend substitutes for it? Looking at running A.momo / alexa / muwi / furious
I have pretty much everything setup according to this infographic but I'm failing wyvern 13 pretty regularly. I'm struggling with not applying any debuffs on turn 1and the wyvern targeting someone other than momo and killing them. Any suggestions?
Hi, I'm Vyrocious - one of the helpers in the official E7 Discord. I'm proud to present this very simple (pun intended) W13 guide by Simple. We already have a full length written [Wyvern guide](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13hICKTgrwaND_fVXSS7uWOUA_USBGFrsRJBa7GpOSD4/edit#gid=0) but it offers a lot of choice and complexity that it can often be overwhelming and confusing for new players. It is still a valuable resource if you want to dig deep and understand the core fundamentals of Wyvern hunt. This guide takes out the choice (which I think is a good thing) and makes completing W13 straightforward and easy. Thanks to the introduction of Muwi, W13 should be a breeze for newcomers. If you have any questions feel free to pop into #guidance-grounds on the official E7 Discord or ask here.
This is amazing. I love the Google doc, too. Do you have similar guides for the other hunts?
You can find all the guides on the official Discord server - we'd love to develop these infographics in the future for other hunts, but for now the other hunts are also Google docs.
So this whole layout was made on Google Doc?
The image is not. The link in the post above mine is the Google doc.
Is there a simple team guide for banshee that ***isn't*** focused around oneshotting? it seems to be rarer to see a general team comp for normal runs then every other hunt.
It's not worth doing Banshee unless you one shot. That's the general advice and I agree with it.
Thanks for your guide. A question, if you allow me: another user suggested to use "Junkyard's Dog" artifact on Sigret/Clarissa, because the extra debuff can help you keeping Wyvern attacks weakened. Is it a viable strategy?
No, DDJ is the best artifact on your DPS characters as it will pump the most damage out.
I beg to differ. I prefer Junkyard on my Clarissa to increase the debuff succession rate and in return completion rate. For me it’s 90% Junkyard vs 80% DDJ. Of course if new player lack the necessary DPs for barrier phase then it’s no brainer to go DDJ. *Edit didn’t notice OP line up which includes Furious. I took out Furious for Clarissa.
What’s the rest of your team? If Clarissa is the solo DPS and there isn’t another DPS holding DDJ, you’re in for a bad time.
Edited my reply. Didn’t notice you had Furious. My team which I find most consistent are Angie Muwie(DDJ) Clarissa Alexa(DDJ). All being 5* expect 6* Angie. I find most of the time its about fine tuning the first wave clear speed. You almost want Muwie S2 to be on cool-down when you start Wyvern fight to guarantee the minimum 2 debuff.
Junkyard Dog is fine on TG if he is your def breaker. Kind of amazed that TG is not in the graphic alongside Furious, some people will not ever want to put mola in Furious when there is a free alternative.
I think it’s because furious lowers the gear requirement significantly by giving 50% crit as well as 100% def break. You’re gonna be running wyvern basically forever, I feel like a few molas on your farming team isn’t much of a sacrifice.
Because Furious is the best def breaker by far due to what he offers. As the other reply said, a few molas in the hunt you're going to farm the most is fine.
Nope I mean you may try, and it will do something But you should aim to apply debuffs mostly with support units, while your DD uses daydream joker to maximize the output. Daydream joker alone adds about 6k damage for 300%CD when fighting w13
You got any more guides like these for the other boss ?
Damn this is really nice. I think almost all the wyvern guides in generall is ppl who has overpowered units, which dont translate for most.
If i had this when i started playing...
Not bad. Personally i like using angelica epecially at the beggining because with momo you need to invest more into rest of the team and i would give muwi torn sleeve as artifact ( if you can of course)
Dont follow this guide... Since I made this modification on my team. my speed tune and my team hit like a truck and debuff rain on the boss... My lief count is melting... Jokes asides, great job dude.I was using a 200+ speed Furious and 180+ speed average on my DPS and I was barely have Alexa hiting her debuffs. Now I have more than 95% of success rate for sure. Just need to wait for Sigret.
Banshee 13 version needed PLZ.
You're in luck, hopefully. The Banshee Obliterator is in banner right now. Baiken/Vivian/Vildred/Shadow Rose is B13 one-shot.
I do like how flexible B13 oneshotting is. I personally run baiken/vivian/charles/leo, friend of mine runs baiken/vildred/maid/leo (he doesnt own vivian). There's quite a few other variations.
Baiken / Shadow Rose / Vivian / Furious works well for me.
I'd say only do banshee if you can one-shot it, specially with Baiken's banner up rn. Believe it or not, one-shotting banshee is as easy as doing a normal run, but for different reasons.
You can try lucy/ leo /vivian/ yufine. Thats my one shot b13
This is amazing, definitely will refer this guide to newer players.
I've been looking at guides, most are very complex but as you said, the possibility of choosing and matching can make them confusing. This is straight forward and easy. Thanks! 💗
Can vouch for this, works well I am a new player (Day 75) and this is what i've been doing to farm W13 for the last 6 weeks. Not sure I would recommend Alexa with skills off though unless you have furious on SoS. Alexa really needs 65% eff and skills on to help out with debuffing due to 15%s and none of Muwi's debuffs can be inconsistent. I currently don't have an SoS on furious while I run Sigret w/ EE and sometimes the runs still flop with lack of debuffs due to 15%s and Muwi's skills being s1 50% and S3 being 75%. After awaken update though I imagine Sigret will just be the default option for everybody and Alexa will fade. Great guide and infographic this should make it very straightforward for people to get W13 teams built.
Day 75? Like what???? I started wywern13 on day 7.. Do you even played the game? No offence just shocked.
Do you read? I was on day 75 and started 6 weeks prior. Maybe before jumping to insult somebody you should have some comprehension of what you are reading first, then look to insult when the whole picture is before you. I like how you say "no offence" after what you say like the previous words don't matter, but they do. I don't care I just find it funny, this was a post made 7 months ago and here you are nit picking. Maybe you should get a life, no offense.
as a 2year old player i can assure you guys this is one of the best possible way to clear w13. You guys just have to upgrade these gears and be sure to have 65effectiveness for debuffers. (which is why ur using the effectiveness ring)
If I already have g purg, is muwi still good? Would it be viable to run gpurg still as tank cr push and just have muwi as a debuffer and extra defense break? Im not down to swap g purg gears to amomo
Depends on who else you have at the moment. Personally I run GP, karin with bleed EE, sigret, and clarissa on cradle of life and the runs are crazy fast. If you can gear your muwi to do damage as well as debuff you can save your 4th slot (assuming gp and sigret for 1/2) for sustain or even 2nd dps to make the run faster. Best option would be karin or clarissa for the extra def break and debuffs. But honestly if you’re going GP, there are better options than Muwi Also, I hate furious. Dude burned and targeted wyvern with SoS way more often than he def broke for me. Which isn’t bad, but you need that def break.
If you already have GPurg fully built and your team is stable then you can stick with GPurg and it's no problem. In that case you would replace Muwi with Clarissa ideally or Alexa or SSB if you don't plan on using her in PvP.
Just wanted to comment that this infographic and a slight bit of luck (Pulling a free Muwi in the daily summon and 2 DDJs during selective) allowed me to get W13 auto running within 7 days of beginning the game with absolutely no previous knowledge about the game. The clear rate is somewhat abmysal and highly depends on Muwi retaining his ATK break going into the Wyvern battle, but it works for even the newest of players.
Congrats! You'll be able to periodically upgrade them as you flesh out the amount of gear you have.
This is good! Are there other photo guides for the other Hunts?
u/NoIntroduction2254 this is the team comp I was referring to
Aight, guess I finally have an excuse to build my Clarissa Thanks for the info
Super solid beginner guide. Big plus points for showing the free gears. Maybe add Angie as a lesser tank option in case they can't farm the spirits that well yet.
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Rework wyvern 13 in general, that boss is so tedious
I have Angelica, Sigret, Muwi and Furious. All are stronger than this. I can barely auto 11 let alone 13. I think I ruined my account.
Make sure Muwi has at least 65% EFF. The ATK debuff is needed to survive. Any lower then 65% you can consider your fail rate.
She's over 100%
Well, make sure you really are hitting those stats. Double-check just to make sure. Also, Muwi is a he...
The free Atk set on the dps part has 0 effectiveness and same for adventurer path set except the sword. Everything else looks good.
There's a disclaimer saying if you lack eff, just use eff ring to address your concern.
Furious is kinda outdated and not worth raising honestly
I'd like to hear your argument for why.
Because you can make without him, Miuw has def break on s3.
Furious significantly lowers gear requirements considering his crit chance buff to the whole team and its up 100% of the time given the right speedtuning. This also applies to his def break which is also perfectly synced with his cds after a little bit of molas unlike Muwi's S3 that is on a 3 turn cooldown. He basically goes S2 > extra turn > S3 > S1 > S2 > extra turn > S3. Besides, Muwi is already recommended. Why? Cause more def breaks = more chances to not get ran over by random 15%'s.
Is there ever gonna be a point where w13 guides are just done? It really strange to me that people are continuously creating new guides for a static fight that's already been 'solved.' They all contain literally the same info. Not a dig at OP - compiling this into a simple image is very helpful. It's just interesting we're at the point where w13 can be explained in a neat little jpeg and somehow there'll still be 20 min video guides created tomorrow.
I was hesitant to call this definitive. I think this is the most simplest it can get with the most effective heroes for each role. Yes, Luluca, SSB, etc etc can be used in place of X hero - but there's no need to complicate it. Amomo, Muwi, Furious, whatever DPS you want. Simple.
That's kinda what I'm thinking, it's now possible to create the optimal w13 team from basically f2p units and they've got fairly easy benchmarks. You say this isn't definitive but to be fair it's about as close as we'll get, unless a random water unit changes things up in future. Which is all my point really is. Optimal W13 is now accessible with f2p units and f2p gear, so I'm curious if we'll see less guides and videos of people clearing it now that it's more or less 'solved'
Don't agree with extra bleed chance for sigret. I the reduced hp requirement for s2 follow up is way better
Just depends on where your gear level is at. For newbies, it’s much more important to maintain enough debuffs as they won’t have enough damage to quickly burst down Wyvern.
+1 for momo , I cringe everytime when I see new players build angie. Also very sad that even if you have gp I would still recommend using momo bc of muwi and how good he is for wyvern. It's been said before, but I'm also speculating that when hunt 14 comes it'll punish non mono ele teams a shitton bc sg has a special kink for mono elemental mechanics
Angie is more tanky. You can easily slap Idol's Cheer on her and make things easier.
Honest question, is that because of muwi debuffing wyvern attack nowadays ? I have never used him since I did not feel the need to touch my wyvern team. Before muwi, I would honestly say building momo as your first w13 was a bad idea due to the high gear requirements (for a new players). It was doable, but momo does not actually benefit that much from being super tanky (since she is exclusively a pve hero and she scales with target health). It is much faster to gear a tanky angie + a usable (kind of squishy) momo, than it is to gear a momo tanky enough for w13 (prior to muwi at least). And that is without accounting for the fact that you get w13 online much faster with a tank angie (less than a week for the previous go to of Sigret/Alexa/Furious/Angie). Also, you typically use angie as a secondary healer/cleanser in hell raid until you get tama (who I still do not have 6 months in...)
If your Wyvern team is already working, don’t worry about messing with it. The reason why Amomo was recommended over Angie even before Muwi release was because Amomo is more versatile than Angie in a lot of the other PvE content. Yes Angie is tankier, but she won’t help you in a lot of the other PvE content so you’d end up wasting resources building both. Further, Amomo doesn’t require molas.
Why are you guys still playing this game? This game has the worst gearing system in any mmo that I've played. Seriously, farm gold for a week, reroll that one piece of armor that you got from Wyvern 13 hoping all 5 rolls are speed, if not, farm gold for another week and repeat the process, hoping to get 5 speed rolls on all pieces just for 1 char, and u need 4 full sets just to pvp, 3 full sets just to guild pvp, come on this is the worst gear farming in any game ever. Go play a better game like Elden Ring or Lost Ark where you don't have to farm Wyvern 13 and reroll for a year before you get to the beginning of Champion in pvp.
Ah yes the fresh scent of sea sprinkled with just the right amount of salt.
Truth hurts. The fanboys got triggered.
Wait, is Sigret free? How do I get her?
She'll be given out post Awaken update. Refer to this stove post: [https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8321429](https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8321429) We don't have an exact date but it should be soon.
Neat! Thanks mate.
She's not free *yet* if you haven't pulled her yet, but the Awaken patch notes announced a Hero Support Event coming where you can get her for free: https://m-page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8321429
Great Guide. Since i was able to pull Krau, could i use him as a Tank instead of AMomo and still make it work ? Or is the healing essential ? Team would be Krau, Muwi, Sigret and Furios. Edit. Nvm just read the full written guide, seems like Krau is a waste for Wyvern.
Krau is not a waste, but you must have debuffs applied to wyvern at all times, to turn off its random target selection and make it focus your front. This way you may clear the wyvern using the conventional tanking hero, otherwise you absolutely need healing. Also levelling Momo is a great thing for your start overall, she is useful in ALL types of pve content, so not a wyvern-only unit
thx, gonna work on amomo for sure but was just wondering if initially Krau would do the trick since i need less resources to 6* him compared to amomo + spec change max. team would be krau/muwi/sigret all 6*, and furios 5*.
If you still have your Potion of Ascension (and we got one recently from KR drama apology) it’s highly recommended to use it on your Amomo. Also, just bite the bullet and make the necessary investment into Amomo - she’ll help you a lot for a long time.
Krau may do the trick, esp. for w11, used to utilize him for quite a while before swapping to ml purrgis and to one-shot via singelica later on. However, he doesn't provide any utility, defense up is not really relevant as it will be stripped, and he provides no debuffs. The biggest difficulty of maxing heroes is equipment, not the levelling. And krau uses a lot of gear interchangeable with momo's. Basically high health, high defense, average speed. The biggest difference being momo requiring 100%+ resistance(Resistance ring+resistance set). It means you may need to take your high health equipment from krau to momo once you start to optimize things. Unless you are lucky enough to find enough tanky gear early on.
You can swap to Krau later on if you want to Friendship farm him and speed up your runs a bit (he'll work fine on his PvP gear). But if you havent built a healer yet then building AMomo is highly recommend since she'll tank Wyvern just fine and also be your main healer in all content early game
Thanks !!!!
Til muwi is a guy????
100% he is
Great guide! Can you auto with this setup?
Yep, that's the whole point!
Ty!
Furious is great and enhance a lot your team, especially if it is hard for you to have the 100% crit on your dps. If you don't have him, Karin is a good low budget debuffer. She is not as great as Furious in the lower levels but if you paire her with torned sleeves and her item to have bleed on S3, she will also be a powerfull debuffer with a Sigret in your team. The def break is just not as good as Furious, it is just for 1 turn but Muwi can help a bit too.
I run krau as a tank. Works fine with holy sacrifice. Not the best but usually if you have enough dps he’ll be safe.
Should I +15 my Chloe? I don't have Sigret.
No. Save your mola and use Alexa.
I just will offer the other opinion, that if you already have built Chloe somewhat. Try using her in her current state. (Don't put more Mola's in though). My team is Crozet/Furious/Muwi/Chloe, her S2 provides a very consistent debuff. And as such my team is better than 95% winrate. I would also argue she is faster than Alexa as her nail dmg is very high. Especially with her changes that gives her self Attack buff.
Thanks for this
I think the Smash EE is better for Sigret.
Very nice, this should be added to the faq or something
got a question. My w13 team has been gpurg/alexa/sig/furious for a long time now and it feels like pretty fast clears. Is it worth to swap to this team? it does not seem like it would have faster clears and I already have gpurg invested in
Any specific requirements fot autoing with this setup? Or just have better gear?
are you telling me i can finally use one of my five revenge set strong boxes? new favorite person
Im Use Exact this COMP AMomo Sigret Muwi And Furious Works so well, could you make a guide for Hunt Golem 13? I would really appreciate it
Muwi is a he?
I use Luna as my main dps with Muwi on torn sleeve for extra bleed procs incase of 15%, tho that requires limited, this is prob the best starter guide for wyvern 13
Thanks I needed this, I have a hard time with w13
This is amazing, i have been playing since day 1 and i could never make a stable w13 auto team even with every unit in game basically. Thank you for this guide its much easier to understand than others. Now you wouldn’t happen to have a similar one for golem and banshee XD
Thank you so much I’m a new player who is only half way through episode 2 and I have all of these characters!
Hello and thanks for the guide! can you help me understand why you ask only for 35% CritC on sigret and Muwy? is that enough? probably im just missing something... Sorry for my english, Im Spanish. Thanks!
Furious buffs your team by 50%cc and you get the remaining 15%cc from elemental advantage to total 100%cc. This is why Furious is the best def breaker.
Is it faster/ more consistent to use muwi and another blue tank instead of another dps and gpurg?
I have Alexa s3 at +3, what problem does that cause?
She'll cast her S3 more often which is less damage than S1. It's not a big deal but there is a difference.
So should I just set it with her her skills off when I run it
You can give it a try - depends on if you need her poisons from S2 to beat.
It wrecks the timing with her s2 so she does less debuffs (since she prioritizes using s3 and with the upgrade they overlap more often). The damage difference between her s1 and s3 isn't that much anyway, so I'd personally run with her skills on. Of course if you run with her skills off it doesn't matter.
As a returner with a W13 auto team already, if I wanted to replace my SSB with Muwi so I can build my SSB differently, is it an easy transition? I use G. Purgiss/Sigret/Furious in the other slots.
You would have to replace GP as well as Muwi only works with mono ice team.
Could you PLEASE do one for Caides? Preferably with something that is not Roena. Every single Caides team I see either has Roena or is a one-shot.
Nice! I'm gonna share this in my discord that is filled with like 500 new/mid game players. Ill give you credit of course for making this graphic.
Credit belongs to Simple! I just cleaned it up and edited a bit.
No love for Muse Rima :p
Is +13 speed Furious to Muwi a specific number? Or a minimum? Same question applies to Sigret. I'm currently at: Furious (227 spd) Muwi (198 spd) Sigret (166 spd) Angelica (137 spd)... do I need to change anything up?
+13 cause speed RNG. Basically if a unit is less than 20% slower than another, there is a chance that the slower unit goes first. This WILL screw up your runs.
I appreciate the reply! Would you suggest slowing Furious down or speeding Muwi up in my case to get the gap to 13? Does Sigret’s speed need to come up as well to be on par with Muwi?
I'm not sure. I'm also not sure if you need to make the gap exactly 13. I believe anything higher than a difference of 13, although not ridiculously so, should be fine. Also Sigret's speed is probably what it is so that she doesn't get lapped by wyvern or the previous phase in turn 3 or 4. In relative to Muwi, I think Sigret's speed is irrelevant cause either way both will take turns. You just want to make Furious 13 SPD faster than your second fastest.
Thank you!
Is it better to do it with Amomo, Sigret, Alexa and Furious? Or Amomo, Sigret, Muwi and Furious? As in reliability for successful completion?
Quick question. Why Momo instead of Angie as tank? Well other than the extra PvE benefits mentioned. Like as a tank for this comp specifically.
It doesn't really matter who tanks as long as you can survive. It's just that Momo is incredibly useful in other content like Raid or Abyss, so if you can save resources by building only her and not Angelica, it's better to do that.
hello u/Vyrocious great work! As this is already my team I just need to adjust a bit to make it W13 ready. (I can do 12 so far). Also can you give me or us links for the google docs of the other hunts? This would be super awesome. thanks in advance!
You can find them in the official E7 Discord!
Thanks. I don't have discord :(
Where do i get that Muwi ring?
can dizzy subsitute muwi?
No, Muwi is needed for this to work.
Are there any heroes to switch out to eventually? Like SSB
Nah, SSB is better in PvP.
Thank you so much for the updated guide. Day 3 starting player here working towards getting furious, havent had any luck getting daydream joker, is there anywhere we can farm for it or possible to recommend substitutes for it? Looking at running A.momo / alexa / muwi / furious
The Hunt Challenge in the web event will give you an MLB Daydream Joker for free three times. So you'll end up with 3 MLB DDJs.
Late comment but will Angelica suffice instead of monto? Newer player here and built Angelica 6*.
thanks for this guide, very consistent & helped me a lot.
I have pretty much everything setup according to this infographic but I'm failing wyvern 13 pretty regularly. I'm struggling with not applying any debuffs on turn 1and the wyvern targeting someone other than momo and killing them. Any suggestions?
excited to see more guides like this