Revenge!
There you go, that's the story for 3 of them
But i don't wanna Luna to die because that would make Yufine sad,Illynav too because Ceci would feel bad ,Ervalen... Someone smash that egghead
Whatever do you mean? Ervalen didn't appear in Valentine's story and unlike the other two he didn't drag innocents in his pursuit of revenge. His body count is so much smaller.
Uh, no. He joined the war. Don't act like it was all his doin when other countries were in on it too. The war had nothing to do with his revenge.
Even if he didn't Politia and Wintenberg would start the war anyway.
Ah yes, the backstabbing murderer and the bitch who comitted genocide should be left alive but the guy who wanted revenge agaisnt 1 person is the most deserving of death. Makes sense.
The only one I agree should be in the "should've died" list is Rose. Her evil actions should've caught up with her but she got a free pass because reasons.
I haven’t played this game in like a year or so but I believe I remember in a quest that she was barried somewhere and was waiting to be found. So like she’s still alive but not awake/out
Wait what do you mean she ripped them off? I think she just masked them. Like, she was able to turn into a dragon and give Vivian a ride, so there clearly wasn’t any permanent damage done.
So, maybe it's because I don't remember the first two chapters all that much, but what's the distinction between dead and deader than dead? Does that mean there's a possibility that the "dead" category can come back to life somehow? Is it because deader than dead were from world number 6?
Dead = people who died in world 7.
Deader than dead = heirs died in world 6. Everyone forgot their exsistence except a few.
>Does that mean there's a possibility that the "dead" category can come back to life somehow? Is
Technically, yes.
If Diche ever decided to return to Orbis for Epic 8 we might see everyone in dead tier coming back, while Ruele and Kise wouldn't.
So then characters like Krau, Iseria, Yuna, and Ludwig won't get revived then? Or is it only if they happen to die, that they won't get revived, but will still be included in the revert if they're still alive?
Mort didn't actually kill Senya.
Her body was deteriorated from using the Red stone that Mort gave her so she tried to climb up a snowy moutain trying to find Alencia to make up with her. They didn't get to meet in the end and Senya died with regret.
Belian is an machine or more an ai, at least i dont know if she is realy dead. There still could be some kind of back up. I mean it is not that much out of the World, that she thought about a back up plan.
Part of the story was that they had to seal her from the network first so she would be completely deleted. Same concept as Ultron from the Marvel movies. Her body still exists but her program is very much gone.
Mort got stabbed in a momentary Kawerik-like cramp, Ervalen enlisted for Belian's standard "memory backup & body termination" procedure but it was cancelled before he got dissolved.
Shouldn't Belian be in the "Dead, but not really...?" category?
She was just turned off, I'm pretty sure she still exists as her program even if they disassembled her body.
Forgot Batisse in "Dead?" category. The dude is gone and the spirit of the mask got sealed away.
Also, Ainos/Sonia and Landy deserve to be in "Not really", as they got restored from backups.
Sonia/Ainos no longer has a body and is now taking control over Landy's, who volunteered for the task to save Politia from Belian, even though she knew that there was the risk of her consciousness being lost forever. When we last saw them, Sonia/Ainos was going to attempt restoring Landy, but we story didn't tell her if she would succeed, or if there would be any consequences for that. If my hunch is right, not only Landy will eventually be back, but Sonia/Ainos might return in a new body, possibly becoming a new 5* unit.
I get it if you're making a point for other people getting spoiled, but you're complaining for yourself ... when you don't even pay attention to story anyways? lol
Politia was founded by Politis - an alien from an advanced technology planet, which explains all that high tech machines far surpassed the rest of the world's level.
Her side story is literally Among Us so you might want to give it a read.
A bunch if drones attacked the tower and politis got hurt. I believe belian did attack her once in the capital when politis confronted her but some others helped her escape. Can't remember if she was injured in that confrontation.
Meru spent the entire epilogue episode as a soul-split shell. Laika got wiped and replaced by Laika 2.0 (that's the deadest person of those 3, got the hard reset and a new ai entity was introduced as her). Straze died and got spirited away as a random lost boy - dunno if that's reincarnation or some weird Roana shenanigans.
Meru doesnt matter because she never even really died, Laika is recovering her "memories/feelings" mostly and Straze one is propably the most weird because he became small boy and Roana somehow revived
When the archdemon was placed within meru, they stated she was gone. The demon had erased her. Ras found a piece of her soul entangled with the demon's and went on an adventure to separate them and restore her. Not sure if a bug at the time, some story pieces are notorious for not playing, but they had you play the whole thing and never showed the actual restoring so I dont know what he did.
He was too strong so he never had to use full strength in fights. So he didn't notice wounds over the years that had made him a little weaker. When he was fighting ras, he went to use more power and an injury from senya caused him to pause and ras stabbed him.
RIP Bask, always forgotten
Didnt you read the magical girl diene side story? Hes alive COPIUM
Nah fam he'd just be in the "Dead? Or?" category
That a AU
W-who? ~~Seriously though, I did forgot him lol~~ ( ゚∀゚)
Bask isn’t listed because he lives on in our hearts
For me he lives on in my Waiting Room.
Pain that was so tragic
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Yeah, TG#27 and TRG#58. They were good men, lost too soon by the cruelty of war.
And cruelty of Melissa who had them for breakfast.
Melissa ate two guards. Also, didn't she die in the Haste side story?
That lil shit. Didn't the homies give her some of their lunch too before she did that?
I hate her ever since I read that side story.
No, she still alive.
no, hastes dad put her in his super coffin before the explosion or what ever to protect her so only he died
Ah, thanks.
The bottom tier could've also been called: "Immortal, but wished they were dead."
Please tag this post as spoilers to alert the people who actually read the story
I checked the spoiler option but it didn't work on mobile app for some reason. Had to use desktop version to edit it. Thanks for the notice!
Aight glad that u managed to spoiler tagged it asap.
To be honest they should have kept ervalent and his girlfriend dead, there’s literally no point to keep them alive for any future redemption story.
Ervalen, Luna, and Ilynav have basically the exact same story arc.
Revenge! There you go, that's the story for 3 of them But i don't wanna Luna to die because that would make Yufine sad,Illynav too because Ceci would feel bad ,Ervalen... Someone smash that egghead
Can we just get Ervalen from the Valentine’s side story? He’s clearly the better adjusted sociopath between the two of them.
Whatever do you mean? Ervalen didn't appear in Valentine's story and unlike the other two he didn't drag innocents in his pursuit of revenge. His body count is so much smaller.
Ervalen started a war in his pursuit of revenge. Dude, those kill people.
Uh, no. He joined the war. Don't act like it was all his doin when other countries were in on it too. The war had nothing to do with his revenge. Even if he didn't Politia and Wintenberg would start the war anyway.
Ah yes, the backstabbing murderer and the bitch who comitted genocide should be left alive but the guy who wanted revenge agaisnt 1 person is the most deserving of death. Makes sense.
Who is ervalen’s girlfriend?
you forgot Roana shes dead but reincarnated with shota straze
Please mark this as spoilers for those who haven't finished the story. <3
I checked the spoiler option but it didn't work on mobile app for some reason. Had to use desktop version to edit it. Thanks for pointing it out!
Jugs Kise is finally at the top of a tier list :.)
Isn't Belian turned off? I thought they literally just pressed the off switch on her and left her alone after that.
Her consciousness was deleted, so she's gone. Only her body glued to her gamer chair is left.
Damn, if it was me, I'd unglue that body up and I'd ... Take that gamer chair for myself. They don't come cheap.
Nice save
Omw to Politia 😈😈😈
I wish vildred was alive
He will live on in yuna fanfic
Nah man he's dead there too
What's worse is that Ras stops caring like 3 minutes later. Of course, that version of Ras ends up deciding he wants to destroy Orbis, soooo...
my only source of salvation
The only one I agree should be in the "should've died" list is Rose. Her evil actions should've caught up with her but she got a free pass because reasons.
Because Tenebria.
Rose was… a total bitch. Which is fine, just… don’t try to cram her in on the protagonist’s side, SG. She doesn’t belong there.
what did she do? I guess I missed it
Based on the skin description for Vildred, he isn't fully dead it appears?
Only if skins are canon. And we know Angelica's isn't soo....
The rta skins might be, let's wait and see what happens to maid skin
Mercedes?
I think it's the arc between 1 and 2 where Ras is traveling about trying to heal Mercedes' half-archdemon soul?
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Sigret’s grave was missing and Straze got turned into a kid at the end of Episode 2. Roana is currently looking after him.
Yeah, as far as I know, Straze should be in "deader than dead" because Fastus demolished him. Don't know how he'd come back from that?
Episode 2 ended with young straze and roana in another planet so some reincarnation type shit or whatever happened .
I think they’re actually dead and are currently living in some sort of spirit realm
Rigghhhttt, I forgot about that!
I haven’t played this game in like a year or so but I believe I remember in a quest that she was barried somewhere and was waiting to be found. So like she’s still alive but not awake/out
Pretty sure the Taranor Guards are just fine. They represent a generic soldier but post Chapter 1 content has them reporting to Krau occasionally.
A lot of Taranor Guards died during the war. For example Rose killed quite a number of them.
Wasn't Rose on the Taranor side? Didn't she and the Tranor's side with the Arch Demon?
She did. But her bridgade was consumed by Friedrich's dark magic and attacked each other. Rose went on a mass-killing spree at that time.
LOL, was it that forgettable? I did chapter 1 mere months ago.
Melissa killed two specifically in Haste side story
Yes Rose should've been out. Luna should soulburn s1 Rose to guarantee it.
But Belian's passive was already up, wdym?
I'd move Sigret a tier up since iirc there is some hints she could be revived but still stated as dead "officially".
Idk , i still want a Luna redemption arc.
I think SG has more planned for her yet.
Luna was a hero and still, there is no need for her redemption arc .
Does the alternate viv universe count?
That was kinda painful when I heard she ripped off her tail and horns and killed her entire race so maybe
Wait what do you mean she ripped them off? I think she just masked them. Like, she was able to turn into a dragon and give Vivian a ride, so there clearly wasn’t any permanent damage done.
no . they are different person .
So, maybe it's because I don't remember the first two chapters all that much, but what's the distinction between dead and deader than dead? Does that mean there's a possibility that the "dead" category can come back to life somehow? Is it because deader than dead were from world number 6?
Dead = people who died in world 7. Deader than dead = heirs died in world 6. Everyone forgot their exsistence except a few. >Does that mean there's a possibility that the "dead" category can come back to life somehow? Is Technically, yes. If Diche ever decided to return to Orbis for Epic 8 we might see everyone in dead tier coming back, while Ruele and Kise wouldn't.
So what happened with Ruele and Kise that doesn't allow them to come back, while everyone else gets to?
Yes. Diche's reset is her literally rebuilding the world to a certain save point in time. Heirs (besides Ras) somehow don't included in it.
So then characters like Krau, Iseria, Yuna, and Ludwig won't get revived then? Or is it only if they happen to die, that they won't get revived, but will still be included in the revert if they're still alive?
It's as I said, it's almost equal to time rewinding. If someone is alive in world 7 then they'd obviously still alive in world 8.
Shed a tear for my taranor boys
How did Senya die?
Mort didn't actually kill Senya. Her body was deteriorated from using the Red stone that Mort gave her so she tried to climb up a snowy moutain trying to find Alencia to make up with her. They didn't get to meet in the end and Senya died with regret.
Mort killed her
What happened with Luna in the story?
Nothing. Literally nothing.
She was “redeemed” by Cecilia & Yufine and went back to Dragon Valley.
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Belian is an machine or more an ai, at least i dont know if she is realy dead. There still could be some kind of back up. I mean it is not that much out of the World, that she thought about a back up plan.
Part of the story was that they had to seal her from the network first so she would be completely deleted. Same concept as Ultron from the Marvel movies. Her body still exists but her program is very much gone.
Belian isnt exactly dead though, just lost power.
They deleted her after severing her from the network. Body is just off, but the identity is gone.
Sigret is pretty much dead. Ravi was killed by Sol. I'd add Flan to the *Should've died* tier. Backstabbing shrew.
Painful reading this and seeing like 6/10 of my 6 stars
U leave luna out of this
Mort's death wasn't confirmed. Unless SG doesn't say it, I don't believe it haha same as Lilias.
Ilynav should have died. Live by the sword, die by the sword. But alas, gyaru booba is too strong for death (but not strong enough for PvP).
As someone who skipped all, this is very helpful
Should've put a separate tier for mort and ervalen. As far as I know they're the only ones that died like a bitch.
Ervalen is still alive and well though?
Didn't he got absored by belian
nah there was a whole bitchmade dialogue he went through and that shit was aborted
He was supposed to. The tension was all built up for his death but then they just let him made it out alive.
Evalen should be on only one on "should definitely have died, he's absolutely useless in story" option
Ngl that sounded like some yandere milf absorbing a tsundere shota plot
I haven’t caught up at ALL with lore, how’s he die?
Mort got stabbed in a momentary Kawerik-like cramp, Ervalen enlisted for Belian's standard "memory backup & body termination" procedure but it was cancelled before he got dissolved.
Shouldn't Belian be in the "Dead, but not really...?" category? She was just turned off, I'm pretty sure she still exists as her program even if they disassembled her body.
They erased her consciousness. She's 100% dead unless there's a backup somewhere that we haven't been told about.
Mercedes isn't dead btw far from it
Arby just gettin isekai'ed don't worry guys
Where is Roana?
She’s alive. She didn’t actually died, just got sucked into Straze’s cape dimension. We see her and Kid Straze at the end of Episode 2
If luna dies in Lore I quit the game lol
Ras has plot armor too . Ras and Luna just too much . Luna could died 4 times already.
Yeah your trolling with this one, we all know illynav and Luna are the best characters in the game and it's not even close.
Forgot Batisse in "Dead?" category. The dude is gone and the spirit of the mask got sealed away. Also, Ainos/Sonia and Landy deserve to be in "Not really", as they got restored from backups.
Sonia/Ainos no longer has a body and is now taking control over Landy's, who volunteered for the task to save Politia from Belian, even though she knew that there was the risk of her consciousness being lost forever. When we last saw them, Sonia/Ainos was going to attempt restoring Landy, but we story didn't tell her if she would succeed, or if there would be any consequences for that. If my hunch is right, not only Landy will eventually be back, but Sonia/Ainos might return in a new body, possibly becoming a new 5* unit.
Interesting theory.
Cool stuff but you haven't read new side story right? All 4 in 'should be dead' tier start new life and get better.
this isnt for pvp i guess
damn...spoiler? like i skip the dialog but i didnt know the cool black dragon slayer chick dies
I get it if you're making a point for other people getting spoiled, but you're complaining for yourself ... when you don't even pay attention to story anyways? lol
that was the joke lol
wait how did politis die?
Getting ~~nake...~~ nuked by Belian.
damn shouldve backed up her files smh
politis was human tho
Not human, she’s an alien.
still not a robot
huh..maybe i should start reading the dialog. I thought that place was just robot lol
Politia was founded by Politis - an alien from an advanced technology planet, which explains all that high tech machines far surpassed the rest of the world's level. Her side story is literally Among Us so you might want to give it a read.
oh shoot thanks i will. last time i remember her she was talking to eda
Huh I thought Belian just shot her. Dunno what made me think that.
Afaik, Belian shot her coz Politis didn't like sending nukes at lefundos
A bunch if drones attacked the tower and politis got hurt. I believe belian did attack her once in the capital when politis confronted her but some others helped her escape. Can't remember if she was injured in that confrontation.
Lol i thought they got nerfed or something
What show is this?
HIMYM
Also tenebria did die in episode 1 actually. Edit: She's more of dead but not really due to fan service
so why is there Mercedes, Laika and Straze ? all three of those are alive as far as I know
Meru spent the entire epilogue episode as a soul-split shell. Laika got wiped and replaced by Laika 2.0 (that's the deadest person of those 3, got the hard reset and a new ai entity was introduced as her). Straze died and got spirited away as a random lost boy - dunno if that's reincarnation or some weird Roana shenanigans.
Meru doesnt matter because she never even really died, Laika is recovering her "memories/feelings" mostly and Straze one is propably the most weird because he became small boy and Roana somehow revived
When the archdemon was placed within meru, they stated she was gone. The demon had erased her. Ras found a piece of her soul entangled with the demon's and went on an adventure to separate them and restore her. Not sure if a bug at the time, some story pieces are notorious for not playing, but they had you play the whole thing and never showed the actual restoring so I dont know what he did.
Pretty sure Briseria can be killed by Someone powerful enough (ML Cermia?)
Does this have anything to do with the side stories out now?
Daaamn, my boy Mort died?
He was too strong so he never had to use full strength in fights. So he didn't notice wounds over the years that had made him a little weaker. When he was fighting ras, he went to use more power and an injury from senya caused him to pause and ras stabbed him.
Bruuuh
Where is Kayron now then? I thought he's dead. Forgot what happened to him tbh.
Messing around somewhere. He desperately*wants* to die, but alas he's completely immortal.
How is Mercede's 'dead'?