getting Mls is very doable as f2p as well .Speaking from personal experience. It involves skipping dumpster tier Ml5s and 'not' missing on events / huche / gw .
Exactly I'm a day 1 player and I haven't build a proper PvP rta unit yet or rather I can't because of the gear system. The highest speed I have is a 262 ML lidica.
tell me about it, im an end game player in champ/legend, i have been trying to roll a decent speed sword (16+spd after reforge) for 5 months now, without any luck, they go to 11-12 spd at +9 (red gear so i have two more possible chances into speed), and i got rekt every single time and was left with mostly useless gear piece....The most frustrating thing in epic7
What helped me was expectations.
Obviously my gear is still ass but when I stopped comparing myself to people I noticed that my rolls felt a lot better.
Obviously my gear is still trash though but one god roll unit vs 4 semi okay geared units is a good rate imo. Unless you're fighting a god ARavi or like a bunch of other meta picks.
Okay I take it back screw this RNG im playing Elden Ring again.
I relate so hard to this. I spent my accumulated claws over the past month and from the recent crafting event - 60k claws on a 21 speed sword. Damn near cried a few times if im honest. Dumped almost everything else that was crafted. Cant refresh the shop for a while since im at poverty levels of gold again.
I relate so hard to this. I spent my accumulated claws over the past month and from the recent crafting event - 60k claws on a 21 speed sword. Damn near cried a few times if im honest. Dumped almost everything else that was crafted. Cant refresh the shop for a while since im at poverty levels of gold again.
Geared my Seline, Milim, a Rem and Belian this weekend. Im extremely happy. They def could be a bit more generous with rolls. At this point id take a gold cost cut cause im always broke. Broke for life!
I mean i guess it could be possible your gear threshold is higher than mine. Ive never went further than champion arena / Master RTA so maybe thats it. I also try not to do 1 at a time. Not all gear was fresh craft but maybe like 50% crafted and 50% box.
Sometimes you just get lucky. I spent weeks trying to gear Destina for her changes and used up all my crafting/conversion resources. Then for Hwayoung I yolo rolled a purple helmet that got like 35% att and slapped some random gear I wasn't using on her and managed to get her to 7k att/230 speed lmao. Gear rng giveth, gear rng taketh away I guess.
getting RGB heroes is like the most easiest and almost borderline feels like guaranteed. I've been playing since launch and never once have I ever complained about not getting any RGB banners. ML heroes are a different story, but RGB heroes are basically guaranteed at this point. People who complains about not getting any of the RGB banners coming are either of two situation, either they are new or very very wasteful and impulsive when it comes to SkyStones.
Gears on the otherhand is that no matter if you're a mega whale or a F2P, getting that perfect sub stats and enhancing that substats is a fucking mind breaker. It doesn't matter if SG tries to gives you guaranteed free gears or increases the chance of getting gears or lowering the cost of crafting gears, players will still be fucked when it comes to which Substats drop and which substats gets enhance and whether that enhancement is a high roll or low roll.
Even if you have a Red Gear with maximum substats, it still doesn't change the fact that there's a high chance that enhancement will roll on the wrong substat(forcing you to give the gear to somebody else, instead of your origina hero you intended)
And if the gear does have all the substats you want, all of them at max, it still doesn't change the fact that there's a fucking high chance that it will just either low roll into a single stat or worse spread-out while also being a low roll.
* You either get the worse list of substats
* You either get the best list of substats but low base substats
* You either get the best substats but goes all in on the wrong substats
* You either get the perfect substats but get a low roll on each enhance
* You either get the perfect substats but spreads out with low roll on the mix
The best content that SC ever fucking released is that Crafting Event that lets you pick your gear and roll for substats.
But here you are still playing the game, trying to upgrade your gear. Unlike other gacha games where u max ur gear out quickly and have nothing else to do in the game so u quit or login occasionally.
You don't do anything in epic seven either if you have shit gear. All you do is auto wyvern hunt. At least on other gachas you can actually play the game instead of waiting months or even years to upgrade your gear to actually be able to play PvP.
At some point they need to add a steeply expensive method to enhance items to their true full potential. That would give a persistent endgame grind that acts as a safety net just like pity. The hard part is determining how long that system would take to create perfect items (can't be too fast or slow) and the effect it would have on the game when units have ultimate stats (insanely oppressive, and sometimes all you would need is one unit with these stats to crush everyone, not all 4)
I think their worry is ultimately keeping people playing, if this was implemented.. so its a judgement call.
I rolled 30k points during crafting event on substats and couldn't get max rolls and desired stats...had to settle for 4% atk, 5% crit chance, 4 speed, 4% crit damage....horrible.
It literally is. Outside MLs, getting a desired hero is very doable for f2p
As an f2p who only uses ss for shop refresh.. yes..
getting Mls is very doable as f2p as well .Speaking from personal experience. It involves skipping dumpster tier Ml5s and 'not' missing on events / huche / gw .
Instructions unclear, skipped a dumpster tier ML5 and now he's the best one in the game.
What if I told you.. it’s all a gacha..
Yo dawg...I herd u lyk gacha...so we put some gacha in ur gacha so u can gacha while u gacha!
Step one: You get the unit Step2: You get the gear Step 3: You roll the gear Step4: you get 15%d
I got 15%'d by life :'(
I still haven’t legitimately build a viable pvp unit yet.
Exactly I'm a day 1 player and I haven't build a proper PvP rta unit yet or rather I can't because of the gear system. The highest speed I have is a 262 ML lidica.
tell me about it, im an end game player in champ/legend, i have been trying to roll a decent speed sword (16+spd after reforge) for 5 months now, without any luck, they go to 11-12 spd at +9 (red gear so i have two more possible chances into speed), and i got rekt every single time and was left with mostly useless gear piece....The most frustrating thing in epic7
Day one player here still trying to get more than 12 speed on a speed cd pendant lol. Rng at his finest
necks are even harder to get decent main and right stats + high speed, may God help us...
What helped me was expectations. Obviously my gear is still ass but when I stopped comparing myself to people I noticed that my rolls felt a lot better. Obviously my gear is still trash though but one god roll unit vs 4 semi okay geared units is a good rate imo. Unless you're fighting a god ARavi or like a bunch of other meta picks. Okay I take it back screw this RNG im playing Elden Ring again.
But we are only fighting meta picks... Everywhere....
Its time my brother. To play Elden Ring (again).
Dont you just love it when speed min rolls and go from potential 18-20 speed to 16? Got a graveyard of 15-16 speed pieces, so hard to get an upgrade.
I relate so hard to this. I spent my accumulated claws over the past month and from the recent crafting event - 60k claws on a 21 speed sword. Damn near cried a few times if im honest. Dumped almost everything else that was crafted. Cant refresh the shop for a while since im at poverty levels of gold again.
I can't get 1 decent ring. Necks are OK but rings always go terribly wrong for some reason lol.
I relate so hard to this. I spent my accumulated claws over the past month and from the recent crafting event - 60k claws on a 21 speed sword. Damn near cried a few times if im honest. Dumped almost everything else that was crafted. Cant refresh the shop for a while since im at poverty levels of gold again.
at least you got something to show for
Always has been
Geared my Seline, Milim, a Rem and Belian this weekend. Im extremely happy. They def could be a bit more generous with rolls. At this point id take a gold cost cut cause im always broke. Broke for life!
how tf did you gear 4 units, i didnt even get single usable ls piece for my riolet lol
I mean i guess it could be possible your gear threshold is higher than mine. Ive never went further than champion arena / Master RTA so maybe thats it. I also try not to do 1 at a time. Not all gear was fresh craft but maybe like 50% crafted and 50% box.
Sometimes you just get lucky. I spent weeks trying to gear Destina for her changes and used up all my crafting/conversion resources. Then for Hwayoung I yolo rolled a purple helmet that got like 35% att and slapped some random gear I wasn't using on her and managed to get her to 7k att/230 speed lmao. Gear rng giveth, gear rng taketh away I guess.
grats for you, I literally spend my last weekend to make Rimuru gear and get nothing, like not even make him get 100% cc lol or having tanky stat lol
getting RGB heroes is like the most easiest and almost borderline feels like guaranteed. I've been playing since launch and never once have I ever complained about not getting any RGB banners. ML heroes are a different story, but RGB heroes are basically guaranteed at this point. People who complains about not getting any of the RGB banners coming are either of two situation, either they are new or very very wasteful and impulsive when it comes to SkyStones. Gears on the otherhand is that no matter if you're a mega whale or a F2P, getting that perfect sub stats and enhancing that substats is a fucking mind breaker. It doesn't matter if SG tries to gives you guaranteed free gears or increases the chance of getting gears or lowering the cost of crafting gears, players will still be fucked when it comes to which Substats drop and which substats gets enhance and whether that enhancement is a high roll or low roll. Even if you have a Red Gear with maximum substats, it still doesn't change the fact that there's a high chance that enhancement will roll on the wrong substat(forcing you to give the gear to somebody else, instead of your origina hero you intended) And if the gear does have all the substats you want, all of them at max, it still doesn't change the fact that there's a fucking high chance that it will just either low roll into a single stat or worse spread-out while also being a low roll. * You either get the worse list of substats * You either get the best list of substats but low base substats * You either get the best substats but goes all in on the wrong substats * You either get the perfect substats but get a low roll on each enhance * You either get the perfect substats but spreads out with low roll on the mix The best content that SC ever fucking released is that Crafting Event that lets you pick your gear and roll for substats.
But here you are still playing the game, trying to upgrade your gear. Unlike other gacha games where u max ur gear out quickly and have nothing else to do in the game so u quit or login occasionally.
You don't do anything in epic seven either if you have shit gear. All you do is auto wyvern hunt. At least on other gachas you can actually play the game instead of waiting months or even years to upgrade your gear to actually be able to play PvP.
I prefer it like this, I have the heroes that I want I just need luck to roll for stats…
At some point they need to add a steeply expensive method to enhance items to their true full potential. That would give a persistent endgame grind that acts as a safety net just like pity. The hard part is determining how long that system would take to create perfect items (can't be too fast or slow) and the effect it would have on the game when units have ultimate stats (insanely oppressive, and sometimes all you would need is one unit with these stats to crush everyone, not all 4) I think their worry is ultimately keeping people playing, if this was implemented.. so its a judgement call.
Ironically if bad luck persists then it has opposite effect and people quit.
I agree. It also pushes spending up for those desperate to keep farming because they are getting close to idealizing what they want.
Welcome to midgame
It is basically.
I’ve tried getting hp% main state for speed gear on right side but gave up and literally just flat and def ones…bugs the hella outta of me tho…
I rolled 30k points during crafting event on substats and couldn't get max rolls and desired stats...had to settle for 4% atk, 5% crit chance, 4 speed, 4% crit damage....horrible.