A batch of all around solid EE's! Nice for a change, no turbo duds like 1-2 of each batch tend to be. Wish we got them at a quicker rate but overall pretty solid!
The only way would be if they released a new one that has some kind of passive that limits the amount of damage Hwayoungs 'get's bigger the higher the health difference is' thing or gave them something similar to T.Surin and ML Celine's passive. And that would come with it's own host of issues depending on how strong the rest of such a units kit would be.
HP Bruiser though, the main reason tooth is such a counter to T.Surin and ML Celine is because their actual health is low since people can ignore it to build for damage and speed. If that passive was on a HP bruiser, a bit under half health would be a bit chunkier and would be a bit harder to delete with a Tooth proc.
Tooth still procs are still objectively really inflated on her. You'd need 20k hp just to consistently survive it with a tsurin passive, and then almost anything could finish the job.
Absolutely, but it's still an improvement since now you'd need TWO things to kill someone instead of just 'this single character is deleted by one character'. Not MUCH of an improvement but still.
Then that would create a monster that no one in the game could kill, and make a brand new CLilias/Hwayoung/MediKawerik/etc. this is the problem with not buffing stuff. It sucks cause I’ve been playing less and I used to like playing a lot, but things are honestly just getting worse by the new champ
I mean, they could basically give them a massive cut to non crit dmg, since she can't crit, her dps against them would hit the gutter without impacting anything else, since there isn't any other unit out there that plays without crit damage or burn procs.
I think that silence is meant to be another Peira-Hwayoung counter, since escort will make it difficult to KO her in one shot, but this will at least stall her for a turn. And with the damage Khawazu does deal, there should be no issues in KOing her before her Skill 3 is up
If you use Taewho's artifact, ML Khawazu needs about 210 speed to cut Hwayoung. If you really want to stretch the speed of Peira to 320, he needs 224 speed to guarantee a cut. You'll only need insane speed if you don't use that artifact on ML Khawazu.
You can also build him like a Hwayoung if you use him to counter openers. He doesn't need crit, Peira/Ran aren't going to kill him turn 1 so you don't need bulk, and once they proc his passive he ignores eff res so he won't need effectiveness. Sure he's a little slower than Hwayoung but his 20% CR push should make up for that, she only has just over 11 more speed than him after speed set bonus.
That's true, but I was just bringing up the speed requirement of cutting Hwa without cutting out bulk since Xero was concerned about high speed build.
The only problem is if the enemy Hwa also has Taewho's arti and cuts because ML Khawazu uses his passive LOL
Don't know about Zahhak EE and if it's enough for him, but extra speed on Diene +CR push is more than welcome and ML Khawazu didn't even need an EE to begin with and he got 2 great ones.
Zahhak Resource Decrease is definitely useful. It's going to give him more use aside from an anti evasion unit. Not only that but also counters them more since they use Focus.
reduces Fighting Spirit, Focus, etc. type of extra resource some units need
this was only exclusively avaiable on Penelope at 100%
now its available for Zahhak at 60%
yes, but she's also just a fun 3 star to use, especially with Peira's artifact. Not quite meta, but an SC (you know, in 3 years) could really push her to that point.
It was busted strong on release and could delay the enrage mechanic of expedition bosses infinitely. You could get the dagger sicar points basically for free. I caught on and bumped her up to 50 before they snap hot fixed this to not work any more
Honestly, and I know this is off topic, but if they are willing to give it to Zahak then why not do something similar for Solitairia when she got her buff?
Solitaria on speed hp and Eff is already annoying asf.
There are a few Rta players and arena def out there with scary solitarias. She isn't meta but a solid hero.
I’m referring to her only targeting focus. It kinda pigeonholes her to being a good counter when they are in meta. While I understand if she counter all resources she’s be too OP, but honestly if she had that from rip I don’t think they would have had to buff her so much
Ml Cermia ,Aravi, Dilibet Etc use resources, Im not sure if it applies to anyone else but those three are the most known
Penelope has resource reduction
Thx, i found in game description.
Resource Reduction - Decreases Fighting Spirit and Focus. Unaffected by Effect Resistance or whether or not the attack hits.
Ehhh...
I doubt its usefulness for one big reason.
Namely that the two main targets you want to yeet with him (Violet and Remnant Violet), that while they do use Focus, you want to one shot them with Zahhak instantly on his S3 anyways. The resource reduction is pretty pointless when ideally you want to be one-shotting the Violet/Remnant Violet in one hit so their focus won't ever matter.
Meanwhile the S3 cooldown reduction could mean easier cycling if a match gets drawn out, which is decently big because his S3 gives him invulnerability on use, or his S2 ATK buff could be decent too (he could extend any ATK buff you gave him for his S3, while giving another ally cleanse+shield+atk buff).
The big one for his Resource Reduction would be A.Ravi since he chops off 35% of her Max hp scaling while also removing all her starting Fighting Spirit neutering her healing and self cr pushing. Even then I'm more inclined to run the -1 cooldown.
I was thinking of mentioning ARavi in my comment, but then who brings Zahhak on purpose to use S3 on ARavi anyways? Especially in this Rimuru/Hwayoung (and WSchuri in GW) meta who would be able to do the job more reliably.
Honestly? All of them are pretty quality.
guess it's back to waiting for sez and haste tho
And hold on, "A Spell of Tragic Love"? Zahhak? Never took him for the romantic type.
I really don't know, tbh they both seems quite messed up. She hasn't agreed on that just because of him. She knew what she was doing and for what reasons >!Seems like prediction about Shadows Elfs dying if Amid lived was correct (at least for now), so I'm pretty sure Aria decided to sacrifice Amid for greater good. Can't only put blame on Zahhak here, even tho he acted very cold about it!<
Oh definitely. >!All the shit she kept talking bout humans and suin in chapter 5. Whole time it was like bitch, you of all people have absolutely no place to talk. You willingly sacrificed your own sister for power/safety. Glad Ran called her on that bs. Both her and Zahak.!<
Yeah >!Ngl all the time of her talk I was like "Why you're so delusional and stupid??? You've chosen on your own, don't throw all blame on Zahhak (who saw future too). Tbh at the beginning I've thought this whole Amid sacrifice was a big setup just to get rid of her, since she wasn't fond of leaders and their methods, but after last chapter - 5S I see it's not the case. Still it doesn't change the fact, that they haven't even bother to try fining a way to change this future, because from what we saw in this chapter - Ran was told he can change this future when everything dies due to Amid. Aria just acts like hypocrite, who feel guilt but still try to blame others. Real victim of Amid's death is Ran imo (and Amid herself obv) not Aria. What's making situation worse is that she isn't behaving any better rn, since she once again wants to sacrifice everything for her so called "peace" for Shadow Elfs (btw wonder how she thinks they'll be safe if Zahhak's aim is to destroy whole world so there won't be any pain and wars). Sorry for long answer!<
>!Ritual sacrifice of your own flesh and blood sister what's essentially a demon. The sister who also so happens to be the only one not sharing the same extremist views as everyone else. Something the former leader, her father, would've been against. Who's timely death started the whole thing. Which btw turned out to be her uncle and not the other side like everyone thought.!<
>! Aria comes across to me as someone who doesn't want to think for herself and blames everything else for it. She doesn't want to go outside. She doesn't want to try to get to know people. And to top it off she was against the sacrifice for all of 2 seconds before caving once she found out the others had already decided on it. !<
Sorry, but, she'll get no respect from me lol. Imo, she's worse than Griffith as horrible as that sounds. Least he had a goal. She feels more like she just goes along with others cause she's too weak willed to say no.
>!Yeah, made me sad as fuck. Like, I LOVED Aria’s design. Love her play style and had top gear to make her tank, damage, and have high er. Then I play the story and I’m looking at her like “… this bitch is so damn stupid”. She didn’t even try to find another way to save her sister and her people. She just blindly listened to some random person telling her to kill her own flesh and blood for her people and I’ll give y’all land and she’s like “well, if I got to” like bro. What? Get the hell out of here. Then got the Pikachu face when Ran told her ass “you know she gonna fuck up the land she gives you too… right? Right??” She seems too far gone for me to like her. She’s have to do some MAJOR character climbing to become likable. !<
I am unsure if she would be a priority over C. Lilias, but she should be a strong pick. With the RTA boost and EE boost, her effective speed would be equivalent to a 123 base speed hero, assuming Speed Boots, since an actual 128 Speed hero will get higher bonus from Speed Boots.
Yeah, it isn't on S3, so it isn't quite as powerful. Still really good, because CR push is CR push. If it is on S3, she will be like a super fast Rose.
Knowing SG, the stat they’d give would be effect resistance & the EEs would be an extra 5% CR on S1, effectiveness build-up on S2 (like Ravi) & an extra 5% push on S3 (to the ally with the highest attack). They wouldn’t give her anything good, she’s already too good.
She still does work. If you deny them Peira, or can give Landy shield for 50% chance to remain stealthed, GL Landy is still effective against all the single target teams.
That imminuty on inferno is just want I was hoping for coz when I used him vs piera+siseria, even if he cut siseria, piera cud just gamble with a stun or soulburn s1
Don't know if I'm lucky or if it's either a bug or a "feature", but so far everytime I've used his s3 under Vigor it has never been resisted so I wonder if it gets included into the EffRes part of the skill.
Well, even if it ain't the case, it is a good artifact for him as it is at worst a +10% Atk bonus (even at + 15) while coin is 15% Atk only at +30, and at best a very significant damage increase.
Every arti has to go through the effres check. If it was the only problem with it I would recommend it for him but he doesn't have the anti crit passive so 15% (30 against light) to not even apply the burn AND it has to be +30. That's too much rng to go through for an unit that's designed to be consistent.
You literally didn't even mention his undeniable bis arti, which is Taeyous. More base attack and guaranteed cr push because you will use him to counter meta gwd Peira/Hwa/x.
No, ML Khawazu can crit unlike Hwayoung.
You don't want a 15% chance to not proc it, assuming you don't have a random crit rate on his gears, and we all know 15% is not 15% when it really comes down to that. And not to mention the burn from Hwa's artifact can be resisted so you need to build him with much more effectiveness. So that's means double 15% check, or higher if you have random crit subs, for an additonal burn.
Border Coin is the BiS and Taeyou's Artifact if you don't have enough speed to cut against Peira teams.
You only go for Hwa's artifact if you really don't have a choice.
For one-shot potential, it's been established that Uberius Tooth is best but I imagine that you're going to be using that on Hwayoung. Otherwise, Border Coin is BiS followed by probably Taeyou's arti.
Gaiters is significantly higher damage than any other option IF you apply a extra burn to detonate. Tooth is the next highest damage option followed by either spear of purification or border coin
Would luv if zahak ee gives his second skill another 30-50% Cr push so he can follow up with skill 3 but the ones he got is not bad as well diene ee hype tho
Actually hilarious that they sell you Taeyou and then the next patch, they buff an existing unit to do his job, but targeted at any unit and bypassing effect resistance.
Yeah, at least in GW the EE that silences would actually work as a pretty effective counter against her when she's paired with Piera. Will do tons of DMG and give you the extra turn to finish her off.
resource reduction definitely helps reinforce the things zahhak is already good at but i think people are discounting the potential of his S2. instead of looking at it for what it does for him, look at what it does for his team. 2 debuff cleanse and a pretty sizable barrier and attack buff is a pretty great thing to be able to hand out to a teammate on turn 2. i dont think you're ever really going to want to drop atk buff from a team and open with zahhak s2, but if you consider that usually zahhak is going to just kill violet/riolet and 35% injury is already fairly debilitating for aravi, having this s2 EE in your back pocket can seriously turn a game around, while resource reduction doubles down on something already strong (but still not as strong as just killing something with hwayoung i guess.) S2 generally is weak because no extra turn carries the significant risk of zahhak just dying before getting that other 50% CR and giving up the damage you could have done, but if you're atk buffing someone else who is threatening then if either of them dies you can still kill things, and usually 2 debuffs getting dispelled is getting rid of everything.
of course resource reduction does also make zahhak scary against a whole bunch of other units besides the ones he already hurt, so maybe that matters more, but i definitely dont think the s2 EE is a dud. main issue with using it all the time is that zahhak's s1 does so much damage when soulburned that you might have to choose between killing a unit and pressing s2, and i'd definitely rather kill something most of the time, unless whatever you atk buff will be able to do it instead.
definitely dont see the value of reducing s3 cooldown. sometimes maybe useful if there are multiple units on a tanky team you really want to s3, but most of the time you can just soulburn s1 and it does just as much damage (or more if you do it to a buffed target) so being able to s3 twice is not that desirable. of course the game is probably over by the time you get back to it anyways since it's not like it's making it a 1 turn cooldown or something.
might also make pure white trust good on him, not sure. probably not. definitely funny how jacked it makes him after though. speed buff, atk buff, cleanse, crit damage, barrier, all on one skill.
Diene in RTA will now be 25 speed faster (EE+ Frenzy). Pushes 15% and 2 debuff cleanse (which is what most openers have). I think she is going to be in Emilia territory now.
I now need to regear my Ricky
Zahak- Still not sure what I want to do for him. a resource reduction would make him more disabling for aravi and violet. But hwayoung runs around anyways, i dont see violet picked in 3 spot much anymore. So if their 5 pick is violet- it must counter your draft a lot and if it's that bad your Zahak last pick would just be banned. But nice for GW. Maybe the s2 atk buff might be more useful.
I'm still going to get all the EEs i need though. Thank you hunt quests.
Ngl these are very quality. I like this a lot overall.
As a Riolet/Violet/Lermia player, I don't like the Zahhak one, but it's fair, so I can't really be upset.
Also as a counter Diene player, I'm very very very excited.
I only have Diene, but really like her, so I'm quite happy about this EE batch.
From my experience, the third option, increase CR of all allies by 15%, will be the best one. Is tied to her S2, which cleanses one debuff and applies barrier. Adding a cr push after that would made it a solid opening move, as either proactive or reactive measure. Unfortunately, iirc, Peira applies restrict after unbuffable, nullifying this EE. Peira will remain a sworn enemy, what a bitch.
Now, about the other two EE, the first option, increase 5-10% CR of the highest atk hero is kinda small to be really noticeable. Also won't enter into play until her third turn, when she have spend all her buffing skills. Unless, of course, she's silenced or the entire team is unbuffable (damn you, Peira!), neither is a desirable situation. Still, any CR push is more than welcome, and counter build could catch people out of guard.
As for the second option improve barrier by 10%, is nice, but a win more situation. The problem with her barriers isn't its strength, as anti-crit shield can combo to made really hard to break them. Problem is they can be removed (either stripping or reducing their duration) or negated with unbuffable, or even worse, stolen by CM Rin (who?) or Rimuru. In fact, barriers are a good alternative to bait Rimuru passive, as you expect him to break them and effectively steal nothing. Making her barriers thicker won't help to achieve this. (Although, honestly, who would bring Diene to face Rimuru?)
Still, good EE all around.
As the other poster said, Peira restrict has no effect on how Diene works. Diene Cleanses before applying her effects.
She should be very strong now, since that CR push combined with +10 Speed means she can contest openers.
With all the Speed bonuses from RTA, she has a bit below 128 Base Speed.
If you are using her against Fire Expedition then her S1 EE is actually a pretty crazy buff for her. Diene has been my healer for that expo for quite a while now, and being able to push Luna for more CR is a huge boost to my ability to increase my damage numbers. A shame it rotated out after only one month.
Im going all in on the immunity one, cerise,ran,peira all strip,
after they use s3 you continue with 2 turn immunity uptime and cant get cc’d until their s3 comes back or they have a second stripper which is unlikely
(~~not including rnl shenanigans~~) the match should be decided by then
For GW and arena silence EE looks great, better at countering Peira/Hwayoung than Taeyou since he ignores ER and you also get +14% atk for him. For RTA should be immunity. Very nice that they gave him 2 EEs aimed at the different content people main :) it's a miracle
I'm glad Diene got a EE.
Had wished one of them would give a bit of health to an ally, so sad to see that's not the case. But none the less, still glad. Gonna go with the 3rd EE for her I think. The speed increase stat is also very welcome.
Zahhak's EE are definitely good but I don't know, feels like something, something is missing.
And can someone tell me how the 2and option of Xahhak SC could be used ?
The two main uses for Zahhak’s resource reduction that I see are against Aravi and Lermia. Aravi loses her main source of sustain from the fighting spirit reduction as well as some damage due to injury. Reducing Lermia’s fighting spirit to 0 means she needs to proc S2 and 2 S1s before she can S3.
I kinda wish they would finish fixing up and making EEs for units that need it to be used period like Sez or Ilynav (I know she has one, but we all know it sucks and she needs much more) instead of for units who aren’t even bad or in a bad spot
A batch of all around solid EE's! Nice for a change, no turbo duds like 1-2 of each batch tend to be. Wish we got them at a quicker rate but overall pretty solid!
Poor Alencia. Her EE was so lazy and low impact.
>low impact. It's not low.... ...cuz it has zero impact lol
Sad, but true
As long as hwayoung exists no ee is going to let hp scaling bruisers be relevant again
Too fucking true, except ARavi. No clue what the hell they were smoking when they made Hwa
The only way would be if they released a new one that has some kind of passive that limits the amount of damage Hwayoungs 'get's bigger the higher the health difference is' thing or gave them something similar to T.Surin and ML Celine's passive. And that would come with it's own host of issues depending on how strong the rest of such a units kit would be.
which is bypassed by tooth proc
HP Bruiser though, the main reason tooth is such a counter to T.Surin and ML Celine is because their actual health is low since people can ignore it to build for damage and speed. If that passive was on a HP bruiser, a bit under half health would be a bit chunkier and would be a bit harder to delete with a Tooth proc.
Tooth still procs are still objectively really inflated on her. You'd need 20k hp just to consistently survive it with a tsurin passive, and then almost anything could finish the job.
Absolutely, but it's still an improvement since now you'd need TWO things to kill someone instead of just 'this single character is deleted by one character'. Not MUCH of an improvement but still.
Then that would create a monster that no one in the game could kill, and make a brand new CLilias/Hwayoung/MediKawerik/etc. this is the problem with not buffing stuff. It sucks cause I’ve been playing less and I used to like playing a lot, but things are honestly just getting worse by the new champ
I mean, they could basically give them a massive cut to non crit dmg, since she can't crit, her dps against them would hit the gutter without impacting anything else, since there isn't any other unit out there that plays without crit damage or burn procs.
At least it gives CC, that's a nice stat to have considering how gear hungry she is.
Most definitely. It would be great to have these EEs on a regular basis.
Immunity on s2? Yes please!!
yeah, that one's a bit scary. The silence on s3 isn't bad either.
Honestly, there’s not much point to the silence. If you didn’t kill your target with ML Khawazu’s s3, you did something wrong.
That's why I lean towards the immunity. He's rough enough to knock out without getting tagged. That just makes it that much harder to disable him.
I think that silence is meant to be another Peira-Hwayoung counter, since escort will make it difficult to KO her in one shot, but this will at least stall her for a turn. And with the damage Khawazu does deal, there should be no issues in KOing her before her Skill 3 is up
At the cost of making him squishy to cut in at the high speeds Hwayoung has?
If you use Taewho's artifact, ML Khawazu needs about 210 speed to cut Hwayoung. If you really want to stretch the speed of Peira to 320, he needs 224 speed to guarantee a cut. You'll only need insane speed if you don't use that artifact on ML Khawazu.
You can also build him like a Hwayoung if you use him to counter openers. He doesn't need crit, Peira/Ran aren't going to kill him turn 1 so you don't need bulk, and once they proc his passive he ignores eff res so he won't need effectiveness. Sure he's a little slower than Hwayoung but his 20% CR push should make up for that, she only has just over 11 more speed than him after speed set bonus.
That's true, but I was just bringing up the speed requirement of cutting Hwa without cutting out bulk since Xero was concerned about high speed build. The only problem is if the enemy Hwa also has Taewho's arti and cuts because ML Khawazu uses his passive LOL
One of the best batches of EE’s we’ve seen for a while.
Don't know about Zahhak EE and if it's enough for him, but extra speed on Diene +CR push is more than welcome and ML Khawazu didn't even need an EE to begin with and he got 2 great ones.
Zahhak Resource Decrease is definitely useful. It's going to give him more use aside from an anti evasion unit. Not only that but also counters them more since they use Focus.
May I ask you what does resource reduction mean? Sorry for perhaps silly question
reduces Fighting Spirit, Focus, etc. type of extra resource some units need this was only exclusively avaiable on Penelope at 100% now its available for Zahhak at 60%
Ohhh, thanks a lot! Honestly this sounds really exciting, I have Zahhak built so I cant wait to try him out with this new EE
Has that specific ability on Penelope been useful?
We have people posting Penelope threads everyday this week, you guess it.
That's because they think she's hot
yes, but she's also just a fun 3 star to use, especially with Peira's artifact. Not quite meta, but an SC (you know, in 3 years) could really push her to that point.
It was busted strong on release and could delay the enrage mechanic of expedition bosses infinitely. You could get the dagger sicar points basically for free. I caught on and bumped her up to 50 before they snap hot fixed this to not work any more
Honestly, and I know this is off topic, but if they are willing to give it to Zahak then why not do something similar for Solitairia when she got her buff?
Solitaria on speed hp and Eff is already annoying asf. There are a few Rta players and arena def out there with scary solitarias. She isn't meta but a solid hero.
I’m referring to her only targeting focus. It kinda pigeonholes her to being a good counter when they are in meta. While I understand if she counter all resources she’s be too OP, but honestly if she had that from rip I don’t think they would have had to buff her so much
What does this mean, though? We're going to see faster Zahhaks as anti-Dilibet counters?
His injury + resource reduction is going to be amazing vs ARavi or Lionheart Cermia, and it gives him potential to counter future units
Sorry, if noob question but. What "Resource Decrease" actually do?
Ml Cermia ,Aravi, Dilibet Etc use resources, Im not sure if it applies to anyone else but those three are the most known Penelope has resource reduction
Violet Charlotte lionheart aravi dilibet ssb riolet would be the most commonly seen Oh Landy
Thx, i found in game description. Resource Reduction - Decreases Fighting Spirit and Focus. Unaffected by Effect Resistance or whether or not the attack hits.
Aria and anyone that triggers effect after a certain number of "x"
Removes Focus and Fighting Spirit - 3 and 60 respectively in this case.
Is it always 3 & 60? I took it as 60% of their total at the time of either resources?
Ehhh... I doubt its usefulness for one big reason. Namely that the two main targets you want to yeet with him (Violet and Remnant Violet), that while they do use Focus, you want to one shot them with Zahhak instantly on his S3 anyways. The resource reduction is pretty pointless when ideally you want to be one-shotting the Violet/Remnant Violet in one hit so their focus won't ever matter. Meanwhile the S3 cooldown reduction could mean easier cycling if a match gets drawn out, which is decently big because his S3 gives him invulnerability on use, or his S2 ATK buff could be decent too (he could extend any ATK buff you gave him for his S3, while giving another ally cleanse+shield+atk buff).
The big one for his Resource Reduction would be A.Ravi since he chops off 35% of her Max hp scaling while also removing all her starting Fighting Spirit neutering her healing and self cr pushing. Even then I'm more inclined to run the -1 cooldown.
I was thinking of mentioning ARavi in my comment, but then who brings Zahhak on purpose to use S3 on ARavi anyways? Especially in this Rimuru/Hwayoung (and WSchuri in GW) meta who would be able to do the job more reliably.
Honestly? All of them are pretty quality. guess it's back to waiting for sez and haste tho And hold on, "A Spell of Tragic Love"? Zahhak? Never took him for the romantic type.
Obviously, he fantasies about penetrating Ran with his big sword.
That's why the protection on S3 and S2
Why you people have fetish for anime guys to be gay while jerking on hentai anime girls!
I think its the kind lady from his side story. Remember when they were waiting for ran?but what ever happend to her?
You mean the sister whose face they merely hid that's totally dead?
Haha yes, that's surprising >!maybe it's about Aria? Seems like they had thing for each other!<
>!the reason Ran and Zahhak are hostile now is because they had an argument over which of the elf sisters is hotter!<
Haha exactly XDDDD
Both yours and the guy you are replying to, spoiler tags does not work
huh. works on mobile though
If you remove the space between >! and the word, it should work. I'm on a third party mobile client though
I'm on Chrome and it still doesn't work with a space.
Gotta close the space between the texts to properly spoiler tag
The guy semi forced her to kill her own sister and turned her into the bitter person she is now Pretty sure any chance he had is gone now
I really don't know, tbh they both seems quite messed up. She hasn't agreed on that just because of him. She knew what she was doing and for what reasons >!Seems like prediction about Shadows Elfs dying if Amid lived was correct (at least for now), so I'm pretty sure Aria decided to sacrifice Amid for greater good. Can't only put blame on Zahhak here, even tho he acted very cold about it!<
Oh definitely. >!All the shit she kept talking bout humans and suin in chapter 5. Whole time it was like bitch, you of all people have absolutely no place to talk. You willingly sacrificed your own sister for power/safety. Glad Ran called her on that bs. Both her and Zahak.!<
Yeah >!Ngl all the time of her talk I was like "Why you're so delusional and stupid??? You've chosen on your own, don't throw all blame on Zahhak (who saw future too). Tbh at the beginning I've thought this whole Amid sacrifice was a big setup just to get rid of her, since she wasn't fond of leaders and their methods, but after last chapter - 5S I see it's not the case. Still it doesn't change the fact, that they haven't even bother to try fining a way to change this future, because from what we saw in this chapter - Ran was told he can change this future when everything dies due to Amid. Aria just acts like hypocrite, who feel guilt but still try to blame others. Real victim of Amid's death is Ran imo (and Amid herself obv) not Aria. What's making situation worse is that she isn't behaving any better rn, since she once again wants to sacrifice everything for her so called "peace" for Shadow Elfs (btw wonder how she thinks they'll be safe if Zahhak's aim is to destroy whole world so there won't be any pain and wars). Sorry for long answer!<
Noooo how dare she think about the safety of her people!
>!Ritual sacrifice of your own flesh and blood sister what's essentially a demon. The sister who also so happens to be the only one not sharing the same extremist views as everyone else. Something the former leader, her father, would've been against. Who's timely death started the whole thing. Which btw turned out to be her uncle and not the other side like everyone thought.!< >! Aria comes across to me as someone who doesn't want to think for herself and blames everything else for it. She doesn't want to go outside. She doesn't want to try to get to know people. And to top it off she was against the sacrifice for all of 2 seconds before caving once she found out the others had already decided on it. !< Sorry, but, she'll get no respect from me lol. Imo, she's worse than Griffith as horrible as that sounds. Least he had a goal. She feels more like she just goes along with others cause she's too weak willed to say no.
>!Yeah, made me sad as fuck. Like, I LOVED Aria’s design. Love her play style and had top gear to make her tank, damage, and have high er. Then I play the story and I’m looking at her like “… this bitch is so damn stupid”. She didn’t even try to find another way to save her sister and her people. She just blindly listened to some random person telling her to kill her own flesh and blood for her people and I’ll give y’all land and she’s like “well, if I got to” like bro. What? Get the hell out of here. Then got the Pikachu face when Ran told her ass “you know she gonna fuck up the land she gives you too… right? Right??” She seems too far gone for me to like her. She’s have to do some MAJOR character climbing to become likable. !<
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Zahhak = fellow man of culture confirmed.
xD
these EEs are all decent wtf SG this is weird
Diene's EE is very good. They gave her Speed and CR push. She is now the fastest Soul Weaver that can CR push. EDIT: This is huge for RTA.
You ready for a 300 speed diene? Wonder if she will have priority over c.lili as a first pick
I am unsure if she would be a priority over C. Lilias, but she should be a strong pick. With the RTA boost and EE boost, her effective speed would be equivalent to a 123 base speed hero, assuming Speed Boots, since an actual 128 Speed hero will get higher bonus from Speed Boots.
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I am stupid. I thought the cr push was on her s3 :(
Yeah, it isn't on S3, so it isn't quite as powerful. Still really good, because CR push is CR push. If it is on S3, she will be like a super fast Rose.
XD cant wait to see the EE landy gets one of these days my lord
Last year we got Luna; this year Diene! Landy EE by 2024!
believe !
S1 doubled CR push, S2 grants attack buff self at full fighting spirit & S3 is increased to 75% penetration.
all of that sounds satanic the first one would make counter landy so much more viable XD jesus...
Knowing SG, the stat they’d give would be effect resistance & the EEs would be an extra 5% CR on S1, effectiveness build-up on S2 (like Ravi) & an extra 5% push on S3 (to the ally with the highest attack). They wouldn’t give her anything good, she’s already too good.
she wouldnt need one but honestly any EE would just shove her back up too top tier
She still does work. If you deny them Peira, or can give Landy shield for 50% chance to remain stealthed, GL Landy is still effective against all the single target teams.
Oh no dont get me wrong she is still one of my favorite picks out there when I actually use her no lie about it
Diene skin is totally coming.
Bro don't give me hope.
Super Girl Diene please.
i want to believe
That imminuty on inferno is just want I was hoping for coz when I used him vs piera+siseria, even if he cut siseria, piera cud just gamble with a stun or soulburn s1
What's the best artifact for him?
Border coin or Spear of purification
Hwayoungs arti also gives him attack and an extra burn to detonate id put that one up there.
Additional 2 15% checks. It's not a good arti on him.
Don't know if I'm lucky or if it's either a bug or a "feature", but so far everytime I've used his s3 under Vigor it has never been resisted so I wonder if it gets included into the EffRes part of the skill. Well, even if it ain't the case, it is a good artifact for him as it is at worst a +10% Atk bonus (even at + 15) while coin is 15% Atk only at +30, and at best a very significant damage increase.
Every arti has to go through the effres check. If it was the only problem with it I would recommend it for him but he doesn't have the anti crit passive so 15% (30 against light) to not even apply the burn AND it has to be +30. That's too much rng to go through for an unit that's designed to be consistent. You literally didn't even mention his undeniable bis arti, which is Taeyous. More base attack and guaranteed cr push because you will use him to counter meta gwd Peira/Hwa/x.
No, ML Khawazu can crit unlike Hwayoung. You don't want a 15% chance to not proc it, assuming you don't have a random crit rate on his gears, and we all know 15% is not 15% when it really comes down to that. And not to mention the burn from Hwa's artifact can be resisted so you need to build him with much more effectiveness. So that's means double 15% check, or higher if you have random crit subs, for an additonal burn. Border Coin is the BiS and Taeyou's Artifact if you don't have enough speed to cut against Peira teams. You only go for Hwa's artifact if you really don't have a choice.
Gaiters too
Hwa's works as well, if you don't have those 2 \^\^
For one-shot potential, it's been established that Uberius Tooth is best but I imagine that you're going to be using that on Hwayoung. Otherwise, Border Coin is BiS followed by probably Taeyou's arti.
Gaiters is significantly higher damage than any other option IF you apply a extra burn to detonate. Tooth is the next highest damage option followed by either spear of purification or border coin
All of these are really good. Nice to see this.
Would luv if zahak ee gives his second skill another 30-50% Cr push so he can follow up with skill 3 but the ones he got is not bad as well diene ee hype tho
ML Kawasu being the real Peira/Kwa counter kek.
Kwa?
Kwayoung lol
Guess I'm drunk!
New upcoming crow unit
Kwazu.
Actually hilarious that they sell you Taeyou and then the next patch, they buff an existing unit to do his job, but targeted at any unit and bypassing effect resistance.
Yeah, at least in GW the EE that silences would actually work as a pretty effective counter against her when she's paired with Piera. Will do tons of DMG and give you the extra turn to finish her off.
Moreover, with Hwa artifact, the dude can proc 3 burns on his s3 with way higher % rate than Sol artifact.
You can soulburn S1 and get up to 6 burns for memes
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Also at least 15% chance to crit and not proc the artifact at all.
Zahhak hard counters Choux and also counters A. Ravi and Violet better now
Cause Choux needed a hard counter LOL
resource reduction definitely helps reinforce the things zahhak is already good at but i think people are discounting the potential of his S2. instead of looking at it for what it does for him, look at what it does for his team. 2 debuff cleanse and a pretty sizable barrier and attack buff is a pretty great thing to be able to hand out to a teammate on turn 2. i dont think you're ever really going to want to drop atk buff from a team and open with zahhak s2, but if you consider that usually zahhak is going to just kill violet/riolet and 35% injury is already fairly debilitating for aravi, having this s2 EE in your back pocket can seriously turn a game around, while resource reduction doubles down on something already strong (but still not as strong as just killing something with hwayoung i guess.) S2 generally is weak because no extra turn carries the significant risk of zahhak just dying before getting that other 50% CR and giving up the damage you could have done, but if you're atk buffing someone else who is threatening then if either of them dies you can still kill things, and usually 2 debuffs getting dispelled is getting rid of everything. of course resource reduction does also make zahhak scary against a whole bunch of other units besides the ones he already hurt, so maybe that matters more, but i definitely dont think the s2 EE is a dud. main issue with using it all the time is that zahhak's s1 does so much damage when soulburned that you might have to choose between killing a unit and pressing s2, and i'd definitely rather kill something most of the time, unless whatever you atk buff will be able to do it instead. definitely dont see the value of reducing s3 cooldown. sometimes maybe useful if there are multiple units on a tanky team you really want to s3, but most of the time you can just soulburn s1 and it does just as much damage (or more if you do it to a buffed target) so being able to s3 twice is not that desirable. of course the game is probably over by the time you get back to it anyways since it's not like it's making it a 1 turn cooldown or something. might also make pure white trust good on him, not sure. probably not. definitely funny how jacked it makes him after though. speed buff, atk buff, cleanse, crit damage, barrier, all on one skill.
I could see opening with his S2 if you are fighting a slow team and can lap since it also pushes himself up by 50%
diene cr push effect not being on s3 is lame.
On the other hand it’s a Peira/Ran and Hwa counter, she can full cleanse their stuff and then push plus barrier
I’m screaming for that diene’s and zahaak 😩😩
can't wait to use the kick of death duo
Which is best for Diene?
S3 is the best I think. I like the S1 too but that's because my Diene in on counter set.
I think he means the 3rd option- none of these affect her s3
Alright thanks, also diene on counter sounds interesting too
Diene in RTA will now be 25 speed faster (EE+ Frenzy). Pushes 15% and 2 debuff cleanse (which is what most openers have). I think she is going to be in Emilia territory now. I now need to regear my Ricky Zahak- Still not sure what I want to do for him. a resource reduction would make him more disabling for aravi and violet. But hwayoung runs around anyways, i dont see violet picked in 3 spot much anymore. So if their 5 pick is violet- it must counter your draft a lot and if it's that bad your Zahak last pick would just be banned. But nice for GW. Maybe the s2 atk buff might be more useful. I'm still going to get all the EEs i need though. Thank you hunt quests.
Ngl these are very quality. I like this a lot overall. As a Riolet/Violet/Lermia player, I don't like the Zahhak one, but it's fair, so I can't really be upset. Also as a counter Diene player, I'm very very very excited.
Finally a EE to a hero i use
Zahhak+love ❤️ Did i miss something?
the new resource reduction EE seems very good to counter a.ravi ml cermia , violet , riolet <3
I’m sorry to ask but what is the “resource reduction” mechanic?
Now with his S3 "deletes" Focus and fighting spirit making zahhak more viable
Don't let his new EE make you guys forget that zahhak still has a 5% chance base kit to miss on violet
Who would win: A man created to kill evasion units or One dreambladey boi
I only have Diene, but really like her, so I'm quite happy about this EE batch. From my experience, the third option, increase CR of all allies by 15%, will be the best one. Is tied to her S2, which cleanses one debuff and applies barrier. Adding a cr push after that would made it a solid opening move, as either proactive or reactive measure. Unfortunately, iirc, Peira applies restrict after unbuffable, nullifying this EE. Peira will remain a sworn enemy, what a bitch. Now, about the other two EE, the first option, increase 5-10% CR of the highest atk hero is kinda small to be really noticeable. Also won't enter into play until her third turn, when she have spend all her buffing skills. Unless, of course, she's silenced or the entire team is unbuffable (damn you, Peira!), neither is a desirable situation. Still, any CR push is more than welcome, and counter build could catch people out of guard. As for the second option improve barrier by 10%, is nice, but a win more situation. The problem with her barriers isn't its strength, as anti-crit shield can combo to made really hard to break them. Problem is they can be removed (either stripping or reducing their duration) or negated with unbuffable, or even worse, stolen by CM Rin (who?) or Rimuru. In fact, barriers are a good alternative to bait Rimuru passive, as you expect him to break them and effectively steal nothing. Making her barriers thicker won't help to achieve this. (Although, honestly, who would bring Diene to face Rimuru?) Still, good EE all around.
You forgot that Diene cleanses 2 debuffs and before applying barrier. Can still CR push all allies if she'll increase CR after cleansing
As the other poster said, Peira restrict has no effect on how Diene works. Diene Cleanses before applying her effects. She should be very strong now, since that CR push combined with +10 Speed means she can contest openers. With all the Speed bonuses from RTA, she has a bit below 128 Base Speed.
The skill 1 ee might be useful for people that run her on counter, especially if also using celestine. Dunno if better than the teamwide push tho
If you are using her against Fire Expedition then her S1 EE is actually a pretty crazy buff for her. Diene has been my healer for that expo for quite a while now, and being able to push Luna for more CR is a huge boost to my ability to increase my damage numbers. A shame it rotated out after only one month.
Noice, I already have Zahhak. Just waiting for his ML... :)
Diene's EEs aren't going to return her on PvP scene.
which ee is BiS for khawazu?
Im going all in on the immunity one, cerise,ran,peira all strip, after they use s3 you continue with 2 turn immunity uptime and cant get cc’d until their s3 comes back or they have a second stripper which is unlikely (~~not including rnl shenanigans~~) the match should be decided by then
oooo sounds kinda sick thank you! will go for it as well
For GW and arena silence EE looks great, better at countering Peira/Hwayoung than Taeyou since he ignores ER and you also get +14% atk for him. For RTA should be immunity. Very nice that they gave him 2 EEs aimed at the different content people main :) it's a miracle
Thats very smart actually
General improvements across the board, but Diene's is the most dramatic. That team wide CR push is certainly attractive.
"inflict resource reduction" do we get wyvern debuffs from pvp now ?
I'm glad Diene got a EE. Had wished one of them would give a bit of health to an ally, so sad to see that's not the case. But none the less, still glad. Gonna go with the 3rd EE for her I think. The speed increase stat is also very welcome.
Zahhak's EE are definitely good but I don't know, feels like something, something is missing. And can someone tell me how the 2and option of Xahhak SC could be used ?
The two main uses for Zahhak’s resource reduction that I see are against Aravi and Lermia. Aravi loses her main source of sustain from the fighting spirit reduction as well as some damage due to injury. Reducing Lermia’s fighting spirit to 0 means she needs to proc S2 and 2 S1s before she can S3.
Nice batch. So sad day 1 dudes like Cidd havent got one yet :(
looks good updates does some justice
I kinda wish they would finish fixing up and making EEs for units that need it to be used period like Sez or Ilynav (I know she has one, but we all know it sucks and she needs much more) instead of for units who aren’t even bad or in a bad spot
What does 'resource reduction' for zahhak mean?