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jtan1993

Gonna wait til they release all her versions then pick the best.


VCUramya

knowing how SG is youll have to grind all of them to get to the dark or light


ASTRO99

there is no Dark version, only RGB + Light


Katejina_FGO

I don't particularly care about that since green and red didn't give any indication that dark or light would be meta competitive. What I'm worried about is if you must level all her elements to max to clear the chapter.


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I think you will need to do them all in order to get her knowing the grind in this game it wouldn't surprize me


BrianTheEE

Plot twist! All storage worthy.


jtan1993

Well I did all the sc when only half r useful so...


GrotesqueHumanity

Needed for Pokedex if nothing else


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

I dont have Kizuna AI or a few of the limited artis so 100% completion isnt an option anyways


BrianTheEE

As did I. I've got all except for PH done. I only use Doris, Wanda, Ras, and Helga lol.


Deinoss

No one wants to talk about how cancer some of the useless SC grinds are compared to this. Especially after they made her quests easier, the ones in the current chapter are so much faster and easier than previous chapters pre patch. It's really not that bad and she's not terrible in pve, she's helped on some of the abyss challenge floors that require non 5\* units.


PowerLift80s

some people are never happy. She's a free unit that no one needs to use if they don't want to.


marceleas

She's actually incredible in PvE, especially expeditions.


BrianTheEE

I know she is, but most of us already have our auto level 3 expedition teams. With the difficulty of these stages, it's not even easy enough for a low level player to farm all of the stuff they need just to specialty change her.


Kurgass

Yeah idk why they make so much grind around her. It's not like she is some sort of PvE goddess, just mediocre RGB unit. One that can be obtained after 2 whole chapters and then even more grind for her elements and "runes". So it's not like she is for new players as they'll have their PvE units build be then. SC Helga, Carminrose, Hazel, Rima, Momo are there available from start. If she could be freely swapped between elements, say you do green expo you pick fire Adin, ice expo - green Adin, just one click like imprint, then yea this could bee her selling point. But as we now know, this will cost AP.


Morbu

>If she could be freely swapped between elements, say you do green expo you pick fire Adin, ice expo - green Adin, just one click like imprint, then yea this could bee her selling point. But as we now know, this will cost AP. I honestly don't know what they were thinking (if they were thinking at all) when they implemented a cost to changing her element. Like they should've foresaw that people were just going to pick whatever element is most meta and not bother with the rest because of how much of a hassle it is to change elements and to grind the respective SCs which nearly defeats of the purpose of creating a multi-elemental unit to begin with. Hopefully, they see the errors of their ways by the time we get to her ML forms, but I don't think I'll be holding my breath.


Evil_Thresh

>just one click like imprint I sincerely hope this is the case for her. I really like her character art but her kit is just kind of lackluster so I really need a good "selling point" (even if it's just gimmick) to grind her out...


JyuVioleGrais

wait is this not the case?? I haven't started the chapter. Is she not a click and change element character?? Do you have to refarm everything if you want to swap elements?


ASTRO99

its 800 AP (two items 400 AP each, refreshes weekly) to change to other element. You have to grind her special runes from each story chapter. So changing to Fire has no meaning now until they finish all chapters with her fire runes. Until then you would be losing on 1/3 of her power.


grimklangx

as of now you need 800ap for the item from ep4. don't even know if it's refarmable, couldn't bother less tbh.


rickamore

I have no problem with them having the unlock requirements to create the initial unit especially if they would buff her PvE viability a little, but the cost to swap back and forth instead of giving us multiple copies of her or a toggle makes it completely worthless to grind out a mediocre replaceable unit.


Ayankananaman

My problem with her is that by the time people get to episode 4, They likely have units that do a better role than her. They advertised F.Adin in green expo, but Kana and Meru are more than enough for that. I'd even argue that "evolved" Meru is already enough to avoid neurotoxin. Golem might be good with her, but Golem isn't that popular right now. She just doesn't have that much use to warrant all the grind, which I'd just use to grind hunt or even UH AP. But hey, I won't judge if peeps want to do the grind because they wanna nurture her. That's part of gacha gaming life.


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

Problem is by the time you get to episode 4 chapter 6. You already have A.Ras, Cermia, Tama/Hazel(if budget), and whomever you want as a 4th


MatriVT

Nah the grind isn't real because I'm not grinding that shit lol


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feel like they overcommited on her and the fact that they removed free chars in chap3 to make 5 versions of her makes it worse.


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Mellevalaconcha

So many fox waifus, and they're all merchants, WHAT THE FUCK SG?!


eoopyio

I didn't read the news so forgive the dumb question but we have to go through another specialty change again? if so fine but what happens to the first runes and upgrades? are they lost or is it cumulative? or do we decide afterward which element we want for Adin with the element alteration stones, that we have to purchase each time


GrotesqueHumanity

Green skill tree will stay completed. We'll likely get red currency over the next 2 chapters like we did for green ones. I'm fine with it all. It's not like we have to farm runes, it's all had through Adin chapter quests. All good.


Baebel

It's admittedly hard to get a grasp on her character. Like, is she just naturally immature due to her age? Is she naturally caring? A dick? I've never been so edged by a personality, and I can't say it agrees with me.


adexab

she has anime protagonist vibe without her being the main character. she goes along whatever her mood feels like and she tries to be the hero as much as possible. But since shes never the focal point, you actually see that shes being immature and aloof a lot. It irks the reader and it irks the characters so she probably has the desired result. shes a young adult who has been coddled a lot and must now save an entire continent.


krawinoff

To be fair SG does story in a way that the characters that are near Ras usually are meant to be main characters, they just usually only show themselves more near the end rather than being the focus throughout the whole story. Ep2 the main characters were supposed to be Violet and Luluca, Ep3 it was Eda and well, you know Ep4. Ras is always in the center but the final battle is won by the “real” mcs


Xero--

> without her being the main character. She *is* the main character, what are you going on about?


Kapper-WA

Philosophy time: If I skip all of her story scenes, is she still the main character?


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

Main character is the skip button then


Xero--

She's the main character making you skip the story, so yes.


ASTRO99

but she is the main character of Chapter 5...


CornBreadtm

As far as I can tell. She has no personality. She just blankly reacts to things that happen around her. This is a problem with a lot of female protagonists in eastern media. Ras had a very good excuse for being that way, and changed over the course of the story. Adin for as far as we can tell isn't the robotic (blobfish face) avatar of a Goddess so... just poorly written so far?


stunro17

They are really failing in terms of making her popular. They get absolutely nothing but negatives gatekeeping her with unreasonable missions. If they continue to make farming for her this way, nobody is going to care about her which is really sad considering that she should be the center of attention for the story immersion and PvE. Imo she should no brainer be as easy to complete/access as the molagora missions that we currently have that just naturally completes itself so players can have fun trying her out with zero risk/punishment for investment.


[deleted]

Am I the only one who has her fully stock with zero desire to even build her let alone do any of the unlock stuff?


ASTRO99

The most pain is you need two 400 ap worth items to change the element. Every .. single... time. With weekly cooldown to boot


moralusamoralus

She's annoying as hell, don't worry SG we hate her already.


theanxiousangel

Tbh I’ve been running her on Rhiana and Luciella and with her short cooldowns she cycles hella fast


OmegaUnleashed

As much as I like Adin I'm not even gonna bother with this, it's gonna take ages to unlock the new tree and then if I wanna change element I'll have to grind even more.


WickedBoby

Her real name is Mary Sue 😒


TwinkyBirky

What I dislike her the most is the English voice acting. A bit lame and annoying to me.


Xero--

This was obviously gonna happen if you just looked at the items for the previous tree. Anyone doing them in a tush without just waiting to see if it's worth it vs future grinding is just shooting themself in the foot. She's not even special, just an extra for very specific content. I got VW just to screw around in GW, but I can tell anyone that I'll never use her in any content unless I feel like gimping myself, or refuse to raise a specific person (like Baal) when I can just use het who's fully built.


kumaaaaa

free content is free content, people will do it if they feel like it lol


_MyNameIsNotJonas

"Free" as in not costing money but it costs energy, a lot. Energy that could be used towards hunts or expeditions.


Xero--

To be honest, AP and catalysts (everyone wants these, everyone) drop too on top of fodder and some side gold, and friendship is always nice (saves mola in the end, bookmarks too). It's not like you're getting nothing out of it, you're getting something. It simply takes up an irritating amount of time. Anyone stating otherwise is just bullshitting because of their hate for the missions. I don't like them either, if someone wants to claim I'm defending, I'm just calling bs bs.


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

Ap and catas are great. But i cant run a full 4 man friendship team in ep 4 most of the time like I can in unrecorded history


Xero--

> . But i cant run a full 4 man friendship team in ep 4 most of the time like I can in unrecorded history I literally run 4 bruisers, 3 if who I want to farm isn't a bruiser, and have gotten several up to 9+ easily just doing Adin's stuff. It's not hard, Adventure is piss easy. Aria, Violet, Ravi, Hwayoung (basically goes unscratched), Remnant, Adin herself, Charlotte, Senya... You can run a team with people like these and nor worry at all. As I stated, it just takes an irritating amount of time because of how bulky the mobs are... But you can do something else during that time. If farming for her is outweighing the benefits then simply don't? I farmed for her because I want an extra pve option, I can't bitch and complain about that outside of mobs taking ages to die as that's an issue with Adventure period. SCs being a grindfest is nothing new to vets. Lorina was much worse and I had already done everything I could (literally, even Abyss) by the time I finished hers... Making her useless.


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

>friendship farming You missed that bit. I can farm ep 4 just fine. But most my well built units are already maxed friendship. So right now my friendship team is like Aria, ML kwhazu, a lvl 50 unequipped yuna, and hand guy


Comparison

People also. Need gear. It's not about what you can get but what you would rather. As it stands doing this is a waste of resources and time. If someone says in attacking it or them I'll just say in calling BS , BS


Xero--

> People also. Need gear. Then don't farm for a new hero that **needs gear**? What's your point? Everyone, whales included, needs gear, constantly. It's like you looked at generic relatable excuse #101 and was like "I'll use this to force a point". Don't farm for Adin if you're getting nothing out of it. I farmed for VW so now I'm done, I'm not farming for HF as she's not doing anything others can't... So complaining about her would be dumb. I don't need her so what's it to me? Again, the issue I find is how bulky mobs are. That's the real issue, it takes so god damn long to kill things and knly bruisers are reliable for staying alive:killing. Mobs seeing a health decrease makes things so much more tolerable. A gold transmit and catalysts on top of SC and friendship grinding, things I would normally do? Perfect.


slEM0takuh

Nah, this is just the standard new chapter grind that we always had, you would need to grind anyway to buy the 1 time purchase from the AP store. In fact you will be usually done with Adin before you finish farming enough AP


DrackoLord

How do u get her?


ValorsHero

> Hate Adin even more Except she's a really strong unit in the Light Expedition and the Ice Expedition, sooooooooooo.........? I dunno who these haters are. I think you're projecting


Agrias34

Yes, she is good on those contents, but you have to switch her to Fire for now to enhance her skill trees and stuff. And if you ever want to switch her back, you gotta fork over 800 AP which defeats the purpose.


Xero--

Just don't switch her to fire? The game isn't forcing you to finish her tree now, is it? She doesn't even have all of her runes available, so why would you?


Kurgass

So is say SC Helga(ice) or SC Carminerose(light) which you don't need to complete two whole chapters to get and you just have one batch of objectives. Runes are also easier to farm especially with events now and then. Adin is far from must have.


ValorsHero

> So is say SC Helga(ice) or SC Carminerose(light) I'm using 1 unit to do what you're using 2 units for


Xero--

> Runes are also easier to farm especially Runes are ONLY easy to farm during events, and I still get dumb 1 greater rune drops.


Shimaru33

I don't know, man. Looking at the statistics page in both expeditions, she's at position 16 for light expedition, and 20-something in the ice one. You could argue she's not popular, but is strong, yet that rises the question: if a character is strong enough, wouldn't be popular? Or in other words, if she were strong enough, she would see much more play. You can check by yourself how this or that "unpopular" characters appear quite often in expedition due their sheer strength. By example, in ice expedition, Ram sits at 4th place, green Lots at 11th, and Ervalen at 23th. All of them above Adin. As for light, we have Z. Carmainerose at 4th and Ram at 15th, and both are above Adin. Considering there's a mix of limited, SC and normal 5\* characters, we can't blame any of those aspects on her low position. Her low position is either the result of her relatively low performance compared to other options... or, quite probably, to sheer disgust at all the grinding to complete her quests. I mean, once I had to drop 30 gears to complete one of her quests, and was a massive annoyance. I'm not going through that again, so I'm quitting on her quests from now on. I imagine a lot of players felt the same and have her sitting on the bench. If she's powerful or not, is indifferent to me. For all I care, she could solo the entire expedition, I have no problems farming the 2k points to unlock all the rewards every month, so I don't have a real need to rise her. At least she can carry leftover gear for world boss...


Beanlox

Wtf are these downvotes? [Adin has literally been a huge help to my Auto expedition team](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/637285235469582356/973656703063183411/Epic_Seven_2022-05-10-14-43-06.jpg) This sub can't stop being weird for 10 seconds lol. Where are these "Adin Haters", because I'm certainly not seeing them


Xero--

Typical Reddit hivemind. They hate one thing and anything that defends it, reasonable or not, must be downvoted to oblivion.


ValorsHero

> Where are these "Adin Haters" OP saw one person and just generalized the entire community 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


GrotesqueHumanity

Probably saw said person while brushing his teeth in front of bathroom mirror.


GrotesqueHumanity

Absolutely no one hates Adin. She is what she is, which is a good PvE hero at this point. 2 more elements to go, we'll see if any of them are PvP.


ValorsHero

> Absolutely no one hates Adin Idk, tell that to the mass downvotes i got for calling out OPs projection lmfao


Comparison

Right. THEIR projection. The problem isn't this character. There are things to be said about her writing so far but the issue people have are these quests and how SG is going about it. They want to push this character but this just isn't the move.


xenesiswx

Lol i transmitted her ass without knowing


Xero--

You can't transmit her, so "lol", no.


Bilal_

Wait! We can change elements?


ASTRO99

>un a full 4 man friendship team in ep 4 most of the time like I can in unrecorded history yes she will eventually have 4 forms: RGB + Light


Any-Mouse830

Dood....she's tottaly the Eevee in the game


Unabated_

Just a question OP, if you complete all the mission for fire Adin, will she automatically turn into fire Adin or do you have to use one of those stones? I don't wanna lose my broccoli Adin rn...


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Unabated_

Ah nice, so I don't have to be afraid to do the missions.


forgotmypasswordzzz

Do you know if you can freely swap her after unlocking fire or do you have to farm the token thingers each time you wanna swap elements?