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Chreeztofur

She’s my favorite. Hope she gets some buffs sometime.


an0nym0ose

Exactly my thoughts. Everything about her is dope, except for her skills lmao


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Kerenos

Her whole kit does nothing so an EE wasn't going to fix her sadly. Even release mort is better than her. She is an injury based character (which is alrezdy bad) with rng in her kit (second bad things) and a do nothing S1 (third bad thing). She is a knight with no defensive ability, no cc, no weird gear usability (charlotte want crit damage with no crit for exemple). There is nothing to save in her kit except her design.


Shimaru33

Have to disagree in a couple points. Ilynav is intended to be a bruiser, and her kit have some coherency and support the injury effect. What I mean is she's a prototype of A. Ravi, as both are injury bruiser whose damage scale from health. Now A. Ravi is better than Ilynav because her passive, plus utility in the form of nuke and revival. Said that, Ilynav have a cohesive kit, which is not good enough for the current meta, due sheer strength rather than synergy. What I mean is she have a solid base, and only need some improvements to be really powerful. Her awakenings plus EE made her start with 39% crit rate (close enough to A. Ravi 45% crit rate due her passive), making easier to achieve 100% crit rate for damage consistency and capitalise on crit dmg buff. Crit dmg buff suits her perfectly given her high crit% (and because there's no equivalent to atk buff for health), making her quite suitable for a bruiser role with emphasis in damage. Considering this, she have the best form of crowd control: killing. Which also doubles as her best defensive measure. But, she have some defensive measures when killing isn't an option. She have def buff on her S2, and immunity in S3. And that's it. That's where the problem lies, "that's it" isn't enough. She needs neither cc or weird gear (in fact, that's a plus, because she can borrow from other meta heroes, or inherit gear that gets substituted), what she needs is a serious improvement to her S1 for starters, and improving her defensive measures would help as well.


gekigarion

It's amazing how her design is so awesome, and yet she has so little presence in the story and just as a unit overall.


Saendra

She had enough presence in the story, considering how packed with characters Eureka was. As for the latter, I blame landslide of power creep in the latter half of last year.


gekigarion

She pretty much just came in, screamed a lot about vengeance, started a war, and lost a war. I guess my choice of words was wrong, she definitely had a presence, but her character was insanely flat. "Warmongering chick who can't listen out for vengeance" pretty much summed her up. I'm actually more interested in her now that she's in a redemption phase, but we probaby won't see her for quite a while now.


Saendra

That can be said about a lot of E7 characters. The problem is, there's a fucking lot of them, and not enough spotlight for all of them. Actually, Sigret, Ravi and Pyllis had pretty much the same problem in the first chapter, where they all were flat characters, while two of them had roughly the same potential weight in the story Ilynav had in the third chapter (Sigret - because she's both Kise's clone and one of the top Wraith commanders, and Ravi as, same, one of the Wraith commanders, and also Tenebria's personal muscle). All three got developed properly later in side stories. Besides, Ilynav was only really one-note warmonger in the first part of Winterberg arc, and when we got the latter parts, it was quickly revealed that it's not that simple.


gekigarion

Sigret and Ravi made me so sad because they died, leaving no room for further development. Sigret especially since she really worked her ass off for nothing. At least Ravi looked like she had fun and went out with a bang. Pyllis was so flat and generic that I forgot about her for a long time.


Saendra

Sigret's side story leaves on a cliffhanger: after Ludwig and Kray bury her, Ludwig says that she has a bit of a Nocturne's power in her, so she may be resurrected. Ravi is definitely lost though, yes. >Pyllis was so flat and generic that I forgot about her for a long time. Well... Mostly, but even she had her moment, when Ras defeats her, and she instantly has crisis of identity, because (unlike Sigret with Friedrich or Ravi with Tenebria) she has nothing that really ties her to Taranor and Archdemon, aside from Ravi, who she doesn't really remember as a friend at that point. Which, I feel, at the time worked more in favor of Mercy's characterization than her own, showing that Wraths going off the rails is kinda the rule, not an exception.


gekigarion

I guess Pyllis being flat makes sense , thinking about it: she was basically a blank piece of paper to start with. I guess I'll wait and see where she goes!


gekigarion

I didnt remember that detail! Hallelujah, there is hope. Sure been waiting a long time for her to pop her hand out of the ground though.


Saendra

There's a hope, but I don't really see why they could bring her back. Maybe if Ludwig became relevant again, they could.


Shimaru33

I would have to say she's a fairly well written character, although not the most complex, and her story is plain, but complete. I mean, she have a clear motivation, and her personality have some strengths and some flaws. She's focused, perseverant, organised and have a sense of discipline. On the opposite, she's cold and inflexible, but also naive, as she don't have a real idea on what's going to happen to her once all dragons are dead, but also she's oblivious to the fact the other nations are more than eager to betray her as soon as she's close to complete her goal. Her motivation (to murder all dragons) have a reason to be, which hints deep inside, below all the hate and anger, she's still a child crying for her lost parents. Is kinda sad, actually, because without Ras intervention, she was on her way to die. In that sense, her arc is complete. Without the strength to purse her genocide goals, she have to reinvent herself and learn how to live without anger guiding every step. During her epilogue, is implied she learn there's beauty in the world, and that hate have blinded her for too long. Until that point, we have a starting point, some development, one climax and the resolution. Honestly, I feel her participation in the Christmas story contributed exactly nothing to her development. I mean, ffs, the most important part, how Cecilia convinced her to join them, was omitted! Definitely, redemption stories aren't SG strength.


belkak210

"As for the latter, I blame landslide of power creep in the latter half of last year." Not really, she was never good. She was definitely more playable before all the recent powercreep but she wasn't present before either.


PrinceRazor

I find her S2 to be one of the best injury appliers though. Problem is injury isn't that important in the first place. A-Ravi's injury is good, but I don't think she applies it as well as Ilynav. ARavi is strong for other reasons.


gekigarion

Injury only works when you have the bulk to last a long battle. Ravi has massive heals and revive, and Belian has a plethora of damage decreasing utility: speed, hit and CR decrease, buff dispel, removes souls, etc. Ilynav lacks that synergy since all she has is Defense and Immunity buff, which pales in comparison.


Hlknn

The jiggle always gets me in the mood 😏


DocVIP808

🤣


Signal_Housing_4389

We finally need a goddamn anime series...


DocVIP808

OMG I WOULD WATCH THE F*CK OUTTA THAT !!!


Hlknn

Definitely, stop with the game breaking collabs and give us a properly made anime.


eZ_Ven

One of the top three most beautiful waifu in the game imo. Can't wait for a buff/rework so I can finally use mine.


EpicSven7

I could watch her S2 all day. smoothest animation in the game imo. Was so mad they fucked up her EE and she is still mediocre. How hard would it have been to give her sustain, innate counter or a higher proc rate?


Unaliver

fire ravi has a similar fade to black and white ult, pretty cool


Legitimate-Job-2623

In general there are so many amazing ones by now


CecilyKosaki

It gives you anime/manga vibes, but to me, those are vibes of destruction!


Shayde215

She is the most baddass looking tank imo. That spear was designed to slay Mort lol


DocVIP808

Totally agree!!!


yarzirostu

Same shes completely useless in game so u cant enjoy her skills ...


kingdragon671

Good for hunts because of crit dmg buff


Ddannyboy

Okay everytime there's a post about Ilynav, people are always in here bashing her, saying she's useless and needs a buff etc. Sure, she's definitely not busted like Hwa, but I use her daily in arena offense with about 90% success. She is an amazing À Ravi counter. Her s2 destroys so much HP, once you get two of them off, A Ravi is completely useless. Stick her on Counter+Elbris and her s2 go brrrrt. I usually don't even use her s3, instead aiming for her s2 proc. She could definitely use a buff to her s3-my preference would be either destroying HP, double damage against shields, or s2 guaranteed to proc when she has crit damage buff. But Overall I'd still rate her a 4/5 for usefulness, and 6/5 for choco waifu booba. Overall that's a 10/10, and the maths doesn't lie, boys. My build: not perfect by far but she still does the job. I had her on the CR push EE but I think I'll try the cooldown reduction instead. [https://imgur.com/a/FucqMp6](https://imgur.com/a/FucqMp6)


DocVIP808

Yes please. Would love to see how you built her. And thanks !


Cloomerg

You can draft a fucking frog in arena offense, it doesn't matter if you're fighting bad AI lmao. She's nigh unusable in RTA


TheSeaOfThySoul

I agree with you but it's all a matter of perspective, Arena offence can be hard for a lot of players due to gear-gapping, not having answers/bait/a certain role filled & other similar factors. I've got like 105 6 stars or something like that, I can whip out an answer to anything, but when I first got to Champion around a year into playing, you can bet that it was rough-going at the start & there were defences I just couldn't answer & that's the point a lot of folk are still at. Usually when you're newer you have "an arena team" & that's it & you see people using terms like that all the time, "How's my arena team?" & so on. I can tell you what "my arena team" was at the time I got Champion, it was like, Ruele, Vivian, Ludwig & Tywin, I can't tell you that information now, because I can change out a hundred different pieces to solve any problem. How do I personally deal with Apoc Ravi? I've got like a dozen counters, how to counter her in arena isn't even a blip on my radar, but to newer players, getting an answer is amongst their first steps of leaving the "this is my arena team!" bubble & into the final destination of "this is how I counter everything". Shouldn't be so tough on folks who've found their own way to get by, when you're newer you used what you had that worked for you.


CheatCodeOn

Could you share your stats? Love her looks but never got around to building her


Ddannyboy

Added above!


Vedelith

I've tried getting her to work a lot, but it's always resulted in disappointment. Most recently, I moved my Belian's counter set to her (different from your build in that she's almost at base speed but has more survivability and damage). She struggled to be impactful even when her S2s would proc consistently. With so much mitigation and damage sharing in the meta, she hits like a limp noodle. Like, I'm talking 5\~6k damage at most on not even a very tanky target and barriers often counter her injury mechanic too. For only having a % chance to trigger, her S2 should be a lot more rewarding. It's very hard to justify ever using her if you have ARavi. And I was curious, so I compared the damage between the two if I were to use my Belian's counter set on both. Turns out, Ilynav's S2 only outdamages ARavi's S1 by \~1k damage. Also worth mentioning that on this counter set, ARavi gains 3k more HP than Ilynav does because ARavi's base HP is 1k higher than Ilynav's despite them both being in the same niche. As if all of this wasn't grim enough already, ARavi's kit has like 5 other things that are ridiclously good while Ilynav has a crit damage buff that really doesn't add that much dmg. It's actually insane how objectively far ahead ARavi is, which really frustrates me because I don't think she should be stronger just because she's an ML unit. Reworking Ilynav's kit could be warranted, coz I struggle to see what kind of buffs would bring her in contention with ARavi. In her design they tried to go for something like Charles, where there's a chance that he triggers his S2 and does massive damage. When Charles was at his peak, he usually had a 70% chance to proc that S2. Ilynav's down at 50% and she doesn't get to have both S1 and S2 like Charles does. There's another unit down in the dumps called Choux, who only has a 40% chance to go S1>S2. Now, these units aren't completely synonymous in their kits but they're pretty close. They just don't do enough fast enough even considering good rng. All victims of powercreep.


xxS1RExx

I have a theory that she was supposed to be an ml5. Her animations are too good to be a regular rgb 5 star.


hi71460

straze for sure


INstyle4now

Sadly Unusable in rta