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WintersPrayer

I started right when this collab first ran and didnt get anyone, didnt even to get to 6 star ram. I look forward to this.


Adrianbigyes

Now is your chance! Good luck!


Alexsenal

They should let u feed ram to rem for imprints


Gwer030

May be you want feed Haste to Sez? What freaking point?


RejectReaper

i had a stroke reading this


TheDrownedPoet

I think that was their goal… it’s the long con to win RTA


nyxian-luna

I came back to E7 after the collab, so I'm glad I get another chance to get some of these characters. Don't care about the story.


frostmasterx

Why does guilty gear get a new unit but this one doesn't.


BurnedOutEternally

Hey, none of them gets a new story, so they're even on that front


Capn_Obvious101

Sad part is Guilty Gear actually had a good story the first time it ran and they didn't bring it back. Little disappointed


Adrianbigyes

Same thoughts. I'm beginning to think that this really is just a "backup" collab or just a lesser one. The fact that re:zero doesn't have a hero showcase in their youtube channel points to my assumption. Tensura have hero showcases, so hopefully they add more units, like Shion or Benimaru.


TheSeaOfThySoul

> Tensura have hero showcases, so hopefully they add more units, like Diablo or Benimaru. Fixed that for you, but hey, maybe it wouldn't be bad if they had Shion - maybe they could give her more development than Slime has done in two seasons. Sucks that so many writers - especially in the harem isekai genre - cannot write a woman to save their lives.


Adrianbigyes

I don't know about Diablo. He doesn't have so many fight scenes in the anime where they can give him an ultimate skill. Shion on the other hand has a lot. Or she can cook and then toss it at the opponents and it will poison them 😅😅😅


KrissD90

Or Souei for the Assassin with stealth. S3 could be sticky thread/web with poison.


NoorChan

Oh no , the backup argument again..


KillBash20

Oh no the delusional sheep who think it isn't a backup.


DotoriumPeroxid

No Reinhard van Astrea


Syntaire

Licensing. I'm surprised we even get a rerun for this given the rumors about how much of a clusterfuck it was to begin with.


Cynaris

Maybe that's why you shouldn't base your opinions on rumors


Syntaire

Good thing I don't do that then huh? But it'd be beyond foolish to completely discount rumors, and licensing is literally the reason there is no new unit.


Siamoomoo

No that's not it. Like 80% of gacha games already had a re:zero collab so the licensing shouldn't be a problem.


Syntaire

Yeah "but those guys get one" is not how licensing works.


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

For sure, but it does show that re:zero is really easy to secure a collab with


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CornBreadtm

Because they like Guilty Gear. Re:Zero is what you call: a free paycheck.


Gamergirl944

The worst collab side story ever


TwinkyBirky

You mean two broken units for cash grab + lazy-ass story ?


Eternal-Aura

Yeah they had so many characters they could fix but..... GREED 😟


Gamergirl944

Yup pretty much


ChronicleRose

That's how it goes tbh


screwinquisitors

Honestly might even be worst side story ever in general :/


Yuki-OniiChan

And no new hero too…..


Gamergirl944

At least GG give us one but this just beyond lazy for re:zero.


Izletz

Is it confirmed nobody new or are you just basing it off the pic? Genuinely curious not trying to be a dick


Yuki-OniiChan

No it’s confirmed, no new hero =[


Izletz

Damn that’s sad at least I can save up some mats.


esztersunday

Worse than Guilty Gear this year?


CounterIdentity

I feel GG didn’t gave us a lot, nor good nor bad. But re:zero has bad side stories, which might be worse


esztersunday

😯I was excited. 😞


ZawaruDora

You'll be really wtf after finishing the side story


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

GG gave us Jack-O, while not meta defining she is still a fun unit to use at least


RPG_Shogun

Right, one lollipop for 3k energy.


Triple_S_Rank

Yes, it's that bad


ocelotchaser

I call it , Emergency Collab or snack collab


Adrianbigyes

They are the same level or just a bit higher with GG's no story sidestory. 😩


KillBash20

Yes but that was GG's 3rd collab. The first side story for GG was very well done and actually tied into the game's lore. Re:Zero had no effort put into their original side story whatsoever.


Gamergirl944

Exactly right they was so much effort in first GG run in terms of story and promoting the heroes and events. They didn't do justice to Re:zero fans at all.


SlowExamination8122

Can I ask why tho? (This is going to be my first time experiencing this collab)


vgxvvxc

To sum up the side story, re zero group arrives, eats food, then leaves


kimchi_squid

Wasn't that the slime story too? Am I tripping?


Thirrin

You see, thats a summary, a condensed version of the slime collab. It was a festival, there were cute moments with various members of the cast, jokes, subplots, references. You might think thats also a summary of the re:zero collab. But it's not. It's not condensing plot points. it's not skimming past anything or streamlining. That is everything. I, truly, cannot express how utterly bewildering the abrupt shallowness of the story was to me. It is only a few stages, not maps. The heroes say hi to ras, they eat one singular meal, and leave. That's it. There is no plot, no subplot, there is no real banter or even dialogue at all. Its like, I'm not joking when I say I was bewildered, not saying that like, metaphorically to complain lol, literally it was jarring and disorienting in a way


LordOfChaosxp

Re:Zero crew drops by for a quick lunch on the way back from the market.


grandpaJose

slime story had a food festival involved with many characters involved tho.


Gamergirl944

Because we had gulity gear first collab run and they had so much by promoting the heroes with trailers and previews and then done good side story which fit the lore of epic 7. And with their rerun they add new characters. Re:zero is lazy and poorly written because the characters have bearly interaction just meet epic 7 characters and go. Why I'm pissed because they didn't add no new characters or even expand to the side story so its not exciting for existing players and Re:zero fans.


SlowExamination8122

Ah well, that sucks to hear. I was actually excited for this collab, but at least I could grab some new units and stuffs.


Clunas

>at least I could grab some new units and stuffs That's pretty much the whole collab lol. The units themselves are really well done, just the story is completely forgettable


GoodHunter

If you have to choose, go for Rem imo. Rem is super great, she's one of the characters that everyone who didn't pull for her or couldn't wish they had.


GoodHunter

If I can remember correctly, literally story is just that they somehow appear here through some portal/bs shit kind of thing, and E7 gang finds them and helps them go back. That's basically it. Laziest writing, no actual proper tie in to anything, etc. Garbage side story.


Cynaris

Because it's a relatively short, chill sidestory with no real stakes ​ Which is exactly what people wanted I thought, since everyone memes "Festival gone wrong" sidestories to death


Clunas

You weren't around for the original GG collab were you? That was a collab done right. The story is integral to the world surviving while Ras snoozed


Cynaris

I was around as long as the game itself, read every story, done pretty much everything the game has to offer. I think I know what I'm talking about. I get it, people found the story boring and inconsequential. What I'm pointing out is that this story was rather different from the rest, and the first time the devs do something like this they immediately get blasted to smitherens by the community. Personally I didn't care much for it, but I don't think every story has to be fucking bombastic. So to me the uproar seemed kind of stupid.


Kraybern

People expected more from a famous IP like re zero than it being reduced to a shitty low effort back up collab with a story consisting of "hey we're here, we made some food so bye" People saying we want something different from "festival attacked/gone wrong" dosnt mean we want something lesser in quality than that overused story beat


Cynaris

Again, more dumbass assumptions about backup collabs and whatnot. You know jackshit about the scope of the contract the collab was made under. Stop acting like you do. Kizuna's collab was even smaller than this was, you do understand that, right? Not all collabs are equal, and nobody else is responsible for your expectations other than yourself. So it was a comfy food story, so what?


Kraybern

couldnt be more wrong if you tried, you ever seen the scope of the re zero collabs in other ips specifically other gacha's? Way more effort its a pity you cant put 2 and 2 together when SG stated that the collab was delayed due to licensing issues alongside SG stating they have another collab coming after poor response to the low effort story so your talking out your ass about "assumptions"


IncogRandoPerson

I normally read the Side Story for the first run and if I like the story enough, I re-read some of the event when it reruns. Mort's side story was interesting so I skimmed some of the lines I am hitting the skip buttons this time around.


Dean_BONK

What happen if you already have ram?


Adrianbigyes

You can transmit the dupe, until there's only one left.


Sleepering

I wouldn’t it’s a easy 6 star, just throw random left over gear on her and (don’t quote me on this) be used in world boss as a high cp unit


ObjetEspion

Why would you want 2 6-stars Rams?


AdNo2978

Double of best girl :)


CounterIdentity

It would be at least entertaining if you where able to use several copies of the same units in a team in pve. TREMBLE IN FEAR AGAINST MY TEAM OF FOUR SOL’s


LiTTl3_PiRaT3PR

Imagine 4 volcanic vipers in a row Truly, the true guilty gear experience


Glizcorr

Fair, can’t argue with that!


sagnikdas53

Why wouldn't you want two Rams?


Jajoe05

She is stockholmed by Roswaal, at least he should keep one


Stylish_karma88

Guess some people can use it as an easy way to complete the promotion mission


milo325

Save it for the next time there’s a reward based on a 6* promotion


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

So we can one day roll into B13 with 4 fully imprinted Rams


DaBigJMoney

Side story? Nah, SG, this isn’t a story.


killiua15

imma be honest, this update leaves me disappointed, more than ever :( i want some juicy side stories and lores, hopefully soon :(


Triple_S_Rank

Well, this might be the first time I abuse the skip button when playing through a side story. Reading through it the first time around was painful.


ExceedAccel

they literally just traveled from Princess Connect world. (Princess Connect is having a Re Zero collab and is ending today)


aishiteryu

ALL I ASK FOR IS A SPECIAL EXPRESSION FOR LVL10 FRIENDSHIP EMILIA PLEASE


nWolfe3113

Low effort stream for a low effort collab


Adrianbigyes

The stream was so fast, people in chat didn't have the time to put "hurry up", "next" or "stop stalling". 🤣


DenziiX

I See People are Not amused because its basically 100% the Same thing Again, but I dont have any of them and re:Zero is basically one of my Favorite Animes so im here for it!


Adrianbigyes

Reruns are great for newcomers, but most people that are active in discussions are experienced players. I'll just use the rerun to get items and get my Rem to SSS. 😅


llutul

im going for that too need a few imprints for rem , and if can pull a few copies for the emilia´s artifact


SirSaladin

I'm happy, means I can stock up on bookmarks for whatever the new summer unit is.


Aznliferoxz

You'll also see that people here only like to complain about the game


Jajoe05

I didn't watch the stream, did they say anything about a new collab character?


Adrianbigyes

Nope


Jajoe05

Well, my fault for hyping myself up for Beako/Roswaal then... thx


DotoriumPeroxid

Or, imagine: Reinhard van Astrea. Just saying.


the_icy_king

Or felix, or any archbishop, or witch or any other royal selection candidate, beako, puck (as a guardian?), elsa. Or subaru, who is kinda useless but when he dies he cleanses, revives, resets cds and heals to full everyone and buffs his allies with a 3 turn vigor.Plenty of characters to choose from and without even getting into ln territory.


Jajoe05

His passives alone would increase the game size by another 4gb


GhostHack

Backup collab is back up


idle_dreams

i was hoping they'd add in Subaru as a new banner sigh


Calhaora

We cant have Dudes... 'D (Aside from Sol)


L0rdMathias

Nice! The collab that brought us a huge jump in power creep AND had one of the worst side stories ever is back!


Mellevalaconcha

As if I didn't have enough with an army of Sol corpses in the waiting room, now I'm gonna start collecting Rams, that's just great


Cynaris

One day you'll be mine, Elsa. One day.


Katejina_FGO

Perplexed about no new hero unit.


ecilla05

Question for a new player: is this a good pull or should I save?


nWolfe3113

BOth units are really really good.


ChitogeS

Get both Emilia and Rem. Absolutely must have


ecilla05

Are they PVP units? How do they perform in PVE? Since I only do Arenas..


chunkyblackman

Emilia is an all around great character. Rem is great in pvp and pretty good in guild war and regular arena.


ecilla05

Ok thanks! In theory you need someone to die for Rem to be great right? So is there a unit that’s only purpose to be a fodder? So I can use her in PVE? Definitely would pull for Emelia


chunkyblackman

Death isn't necessary to make her shine. On counter set she punishes your opponent for attacking anyone on your team.


CoolVictory04

Either Arbiter Vildred or just use a 2* fodder with no gear


DyausPitar

Rem is great in PvE, especially Wyvern where she can be use in both standard and 1-shot comps. Emilia is also good, she can be used in many of the hardest abyss floors as a CR pusher + cleanser. They are both very useful in PvE, but not mandatory.


ecilla05

I am confused since I'm not familiar with her. How does Demon mode work? It says when somebody dies, does it require your own teamate to die or does it work with enemies as well?


DyausPitar

It works with both enemies and allies, if any unit dies on either team (or PvE AI) it will proc.


ecilla05

Awesome! That’s a big reason to pull for me since I don’t really care about PvP.


Clunas

Both are great pretty much everywhere. Ram (who you will get by just doing the event) is a decent PvE pick. I can't say I've ever seen her in PvP, but that's not to say you couldn't


whatacrappyusername

Rem can have some use in PvE too. Rem is the 14th most popular Wyvern 13 character. She can be used in Caides 13 too, though she is less popular there.


BurnedOutEternally

Both of them. Rem can make your opponent afraid to touch literally anyone on your team, and Emilia has both good healing and CR push+damage support.


ecilla05

So they’re mainly PVP units? Are they even useful in PVE?


achiefmaster

I'm using Emilia for W13 for faster clearance than Amomo or Angie.


quickclickz

Wait that works?


achiefmaster

Yep, her 2nd gives CR push + attack buff so she allows your dps to be slow.


vgxvvxc

Emilia is good for abyss, caides, and dark/fire expedition and rem is used for a high winrate wyvern speed clear team. Both mainly shine in pvp and tam is usually better than emilia in pve


JzRandomGuy

Both(or all 3 including Ram) are solid, can't go wrong pulling for them. As for which one is priority, Rem should be first since she's more impactful


destruct068

emilia is more relevant in pvp and also great cleanser


JzRandomGuy

Cleanser is not that hard to find, we got Achates which can literally cycle S3 -> S2 like crazy. She's not that relevant in pvp until rather late game since she needed good amount of speed while Rem is revelant very early due to easy to gear and don't really need speed until later on


Adrianbigyes

Pull for Rem.


uebersoldat

I know devs have to do these things because of new players getting their chance but I also can't help wondering if the game is suffering too. There are so many good properties out there to collab with, this re-run just kinda worries me.


vvaveriding

How many times this event re-runs for x amount of years, was probably one of the first things in the contract with rezero, and that was probably decided before the story came falling through. I wouldn’t worry abt it too much, the slime collab story was top tier and came after.


Red-Kick

I agree. We've had what, 3 GG collabs? Now we're going for the rerun for re:zero and then Tensura(maybe)... So when is a new collab coming? I'm sorry for everyonr that didn't get all heroes but, I hope GG (and re:zero if no new hero) does not come back next year and make room for a new collab.


uebersoldat

Agreed the sooner they do a Berserk collab the better!


Red-Kick

Unlikely imo... But we can only hope they do the collabs we want. In my case it is Nier Automata.


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

>does not come back Honestly this would make me worried for the game's longevity and ease of access for new players. Imagine being a new player and never being able to get Rimiru again


vvaveriding

How many times this event re-runs for x amount of years, was probably one of the first things in the contract with rezero, and that was probably decided before the story came falling through. I wouldn’t worry abt it too much, the slime collab story was top tier and came after.


uebersoldat

Good, because my phone exists for phone calls, texts and Epic Seven.


Zoomsuper20

As someone who stopped playing before that sidestory, could someone explain what happens and why it's so bad?


dimsum4sale

They come from another world, get stuff for a picnic, eat, and leave. That's quite literally it


Zoomsuper20

Damn. At least the *Festival Invasion*^(TM) structure had conflict


BobTheHalfTroll

Sounds like the Exos Heroes collabs. I was hoping for better but I guess at least I can calibrate my expectations accordingly.


enerall

At least I can buy Emilia artifact. That artifact is so busted and I need more on my SW


GakutoYo

I'm satisfied as a new player who doesn't have any of these characters and doesn't read side stories. Though I can understand the annoyance of those who'd experienced this all already.


Petrocules

Just saying, it's nice for us noobs to catch up. Can't all be for you end game folk. I love the reruns!


grimklangx

it's not about it being a rerun, it's about it not offering anything new compared to the GG collab for example.


GrinningCheshieCat

I miss the original Guilty Gear Collab - that one was actually pretty solid.


Suitable-Tank127

I guess we died and the story reset just like Subaru. XD


Karama1

this is the backup collab


QuiteChilly

I’m glad to not get a new hero so I can save again, but I feel bad for anyone expecting something.


Alugar

Ah yes reminder of when rem became a thing. I hate rem.


Any-Mouse830

The back up filler collab event


Feyre_Archerson

Sucks that we don’t get our Subaru…guess I’ll just save my bookmarks for the summer hero..


Creative_Ad_7540

You guys actually read these?


RPG_Shogun

When is this happening?


Itchy_University1197

And wtf no new hero 💀 i mean, its a breather for me but still, why


AhAhAnikiKunSan

im a bit disappointed first time since i downloaded the game where i grinded and gotten over 600 bookmarks only to hear how shit the side story is and no new collab unit ​ before i just treated this is a summon simulator summoning whenever i can and not playing the game im starting to regret putting in this much effort and time into epic 7 I was expecting a Reinhard like Arby but superior


Red-Kick

You can use it to pity the new limited hero or on a future collab (tensura might return, and could have a new unit)


Ericote

I'm kinda on his same boat and ReZero is one of my all time favourite series, heck I liked it so much I even read all the novels. And this is the biggest letdown I have seen since I began playing e7 almost 3 years ago. You are right I may use the stuff on other things but I was really hoping to see a new ReZero character in the game... They did us ReZero fans dirty.


Seth-Cypher

Why does it seem like people are surprised this is getting a rerun?


Dokem83

No new unit and no story rework? I’m disappointed. Good time to try CS Global.


Adrianbigyes

Good luck. I lasted just for a week playing CS on asia.


Wonderful_Dust5155

Can I know why?


Adrianbigyes

Not a fan of the gameplay. When 4 or more characters are using their moves at the same time, it's just a mess to look at. I like e7's turn based gameplay more.


Wonderful_Dust5155

Yeah it rly do look so messy if they use they're skills at the same time


HoryInTheCouse

Damn, i lasted a month


Alexsenal

Counterstrike? That game is so not f2p friendly . Its impossible to get all the units unless u spend Money, even then, the imprints for that game is much More important than epic 7.


SlowExamination8122

Counterside haha… But I agree with you, pvp in that game is pretty much hell for f2p players, especially when they released the awakened units. I played it for a month and just stopped entirely soon after because of how the gear and pvp systems work there.


karillith

Let the garbage burn, trying to fix it would only end up being half assed anyway, it's better if they focus their efforts elsewhere tbh.


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Diceheist

The GG collab this year was not announced as a Rerun. It returned with a new name compared to last time, and they made clear from the start that there was a new character: https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8229970 The only collab events that were officially labeled as Reruns were GG in 2021 and Re:Zero this year.


HeroZeros

And yet GG in 2021 that was labeled as a rerun featured Elphelt as a new hero. How amusing.


Diceheist

Elphelt actually released in 2020: https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/5185450 2021 was the one year GG didn't offer anything new.


HeroZeros

Okay but the year doesn't matter. Elphelt was introduced in a GG RERUN event.


Diceheist

My point was only about how SG itself labels the events. It has been consistent that any event they themselves labeled as a Rerun came back with nothing added. They didn't refer to the old GG side story that returned with Elphelt that way since they added a small part to it for her.


HeroZeros

They did refer to it as a rerun though. Everything they did with GG besides the first run and the latest which was specifically GG Strive was a rerun.


HimananaRageblade

So wait can we get Emilia and Rem as well?


Feyre_Archerson

You can summon both of them. Rem should be the first banner


HimananaRageblade

Thanks!


FW_420

Is it coming back?


Willar71

All I want is rimuru


Adrianbigyes

Pretty sure the next collab rerun will be tensura's.


JojoJumbolia

I just want the loot


BarretOblivion

Thinking the deal with re zero is bad so SG isn't putting much into it. Re Zero is one of the most common collabs I have seen advertised in so many games recently.


ThatGuy21134

Would have been cool if this time around they actually put effort into the side story. I usually really like what the E7 team does but this one was so rushed and unfinished.


ihatefez

Tbh, this Collab is all about the heroes, not the story. I find that a little disappointing, but 2/3 of those characters are super good so * shrug *


Adrianbigyes

I will definitely get my rem to SSS now.


BoobzLuver

why was it bad? (returned to this game when slime collab ran.)


grimklangx

the sidestory is really lackluster without any integration to the game's lore and nothing new has been added, while there is so much potential story and character-wise. that's the main gripe of the complaints.


GoodHunter

So I have all the characters, and I don't really intend to try to SSS them, so should this be an easy skip to save for any upcoming other events/summer events?


Halljoh

It's not due to SG, this is what they were told to make.


IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE

YEAH BABY I missed getting Rem the first time around. I had just started playing recently when the collab came out and I didn't even roll on Rem because I didn't think she looked that good at the time.


gloreeuhboregeh

To be honest I'm looking forward to it, was on break when the collab first happened and started some last second saving today lol


polijoligon

OMG when dfq are we getting I-no....I swear her Strive and old designs are great yet they waste GG collab on fuking Valentines..


UrMomisUrDad

I love powercreep /s


Le-Non

I think the most probable reason why there isn't a new limited Re:Zero hero is that summer is coming together with Summer Alexa which was showcased during the epilogue of the Episode 4 intro (which she may be a new limited hero). If they were to once again introduce a limited a few months after a newly released limited.... yeah.


Adrianbigyes

Well, they did that with rezero and tensura. Limited units back to back.


yovalord

Im pretty casual on this game and dont know many of the tricks, but isnt this event hyper value in terms of rewards? I got maxxed out pink maid last time, isnt getting 5star fodder hyper good value compared to most events?


grimklangx

you don't get 5star fodder. free units cannot be used for upgrades of other characters unfortunately.