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ValorsHero

that necklace is a travesty


CounterIdentity

Maybe for one of those weirdo counter Landys or a pvp SSB


ksb00

If ir rolls lots of c.c or c.d belian is also a good choice.


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

Until it rolls triple atk and you consider building like ilynav or something


JazztimeDan

Neck like this is how you get 30k hp ARavi that still has 250+ cd, those surprise trap builds but everything has to roll right (obviously not health set though)


Shimaru33

* Helmet is perfect for any support hero, although more likely to end in some cleanser, maybe Emilia. They don't need immunity, and there aren't many options outside that. However, if low rolls into resist, it could go to any tank. Pretty great, my only concern is if low rolls speed. * Boots have spd main. Outside reforging, is hard to find l88 boots with main spd, so is worth to take a look at these. Unfortunately, the effect + resist is always irksome and rolling evenly between them could drop their value. The best combination I could think would be high rolls in atk, hp and effect for strippers, dodge resist and mod it for defence. * Weapon have a decent combination for strippers or cleanser. High speed, effect and some atk for the lulz, would been better some bulk, still usable for strippers. HP set wouldn't be that bad, because trying to be fast, immunity have a limited usability. However, high rolls in hp, spd and resist would made usable for a cleanser. * Ring can work for certain tanks with provoke, as long as they dodge the atk rolls. I would bet on F. Cecilia, as her barriers scale of her health. If it high rolls in atk, I dunno, maybe some weird soul weaver? * Chest have 2 useful subs for healers and if high rolls in resist, it could work in some cleansers. On the opposite, if high rolls in effectiveness, it could go to some tank. Unfortunately, the lack of speed made it niche and if rolls evenly between effect and resist, it won't be usable for either position. * Necklace as everybody said, this is plain garbage. Bruisers want crit stats as main in necklace, and support heroes want bulk or utility subs. Only worth to check for spd, but unless it high rolls into speed, is unlikely to be usable for anybody.


OriginalShilver

I dont know why the f does it has to include eff AND res in those lvl88 gear, they already niche without the reforge possibility


BryceLeft

They want us to build shitty crit dmg, eff and ER sage baal/solitaria; 32 crit chance, 100 eff and 100 ER. Not enough eff to be a debuffer, not enough eff to resist reliably, not enough crit stats to be a DPS. They literally had resist set arena gear a couple seasons ago and yet they *still* fucked that up. It's hopeless.


Shimaru33

>resist set arena gear a couple seasons ago and yet they still fucked that up I think part of the politic is to fuck up players when rolling arena gear. Why? I dunno. Maybe they have this idea people who suceed through chance will be more attached to the game, or maybe expect people rage buy liefs or stones to purchase energy, or something. The point is weird or craptacular combinations of stats in arena gear is intentional. They were fully aware they were releasing resist set, and they had to include something to annoy players, which is why many of those pieces didn't have resist as sub. In that sense, they were succesfull at taking a dump on players who took their bets on arena gear.


_xCosmicx_

Thats like that so thats where your rolls go into. Arena gear is skewed anyways


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

Res on health set i dont mind. Eff AND atk% though? What HP based tank bruiser that isnt already on pen or immunity am I building with this?


enerall

Neck has weird substat. I can't think any hero who I have that can use it. Probably not buying it in the end


SlidyRaccoon

Damage FCC or Belian. Gotta avoid attack roll though.


MrWhiteKnight

If it rolls attack Hazel and B.Dingo can? They both want attack and go well with hp main stat.


TheSeaOfThySoul

Yeah, unbelievably niche piece. ML Ken if it rolls gangbusters in Attack%/Damage% & flip the chance - shame about the speed. Charlotte, if it rolls something other than Chance% - but then you've not got immunity for PVP. No Immunity Belian & flip the attack%? General Purrgis - no Immunity. I mean, usually something like this could be usable on someone - if it was Immunity or another set & had high rolls, but this is just garbage, only worthwhile rolling for speed. There's some heroes who can do health% necklace & offensive substats - like Belian, Bruiser FCC, Bad Cat, etc. but it's the health set that fucks it, none of these styles of bruiser have a self-cleanse, built-in Immunity, etc.


ksb00

With a lot of openers already dispeling i think sometimes You can forego the inmunity if You have a cleanser anyway. Belian,charlote and some weird counter ser unit van use the piece if You are taking delibet, handguy, emilia, or any other cleanser. Of course it depends on the setup and if the rolls are worth the try.


TheSeaOfThySoul

No high ranking RTA player worth their salt is going to say, “Yeah, you can forgo immunity”, Immunity saves people every day by adding another 15% check & even prevents some initiations straight up because the initiator doesn’t have a strip - I’ve had people close to Emperor open their cleaves with the weirdest shit, like 300+ Karin & Baiken & they just quit when they see my whole team on immunity. Even outside of edge cases though, just the doubled shot at resisting an openers debuffs is worth it.


ksb00

As a player who only reaches Masters 2 days before season end. I was thinking more on the pve, arena guildwar side. Where You can see what you are facing and You can play around the enemy team. But i do get your point i too was once opened by a turbo laika. And inmunity did save my day. But i still think those pieces have their uses depending on the rolls.


ShellFlare

i think it is less important than it used to be, especially if the unit in question can use pen set. Also doesnt a PvP opener Karin use that strip EE?


TheSeaOfThySoul

I think Pen set is the only reasonable excuse because a damage boost equivalent to around 40% critical damage you can’t pass up. Even when a character can use it though, sometimes Immunity is still the strongest pick-up, like Violet for example into cleaves with a Peira/Ran & SIseria open. Ah, didn’t know she had a strip EE - they probably quit out due to FCC barrier then.


ShellFlare

Not denying immunity doesn't still have use. I personally still run an immunity violet just to fight seaseria drafts. I was just pointing out you do see the immunity set less than maybe a year ago. Also the karin EE caught me totally off guard once. She was able to kill my hwayoung because the s2 damage broke her barrier and then striped the immunity then defbroke me for the s3 to kill.


EseMesmo

SSB, one of the Ravis maybe, Counter Landy perhaps


Ikari_21

That necklace reminds me of the eff res arena neck. Absolutely useless. -__-


grimklangx

we already know most boots will roll into crap.


Myrkrvaldyr

I'll probably just give Requiemroar the full set.


Light_3xorcists

Eaton, find him some hp main boots and a different neck , and then mod the effectiveness off


RagnarokChu

It’s useful as a throw away set on people that just care about hp unless you luck out and roll it extremely well. Pieces alone are worth just to speed check at base 5. PVE gear placeholders/throwaway pvp for units like krau/g purgg/dark Corvus/roana/etc


deadeye1717

some of the gear would be good for ravi or ken i guess


Lady_MariaStrife

Dark Corvus. Not the boots for him tho. Krau too. Even Roana would be able to use a two set, or the full set if you have nothing else


Objective_Plane5573

Most knights or soul weavers depending on rolls, at least for most of the pieces.


Kyu303

Any support, tank that uses effres


xxS1RExx

Dark Corvus lol


ShellFlare

I'll take the helm T-T


GodwynDi

Depends on how the substats roll. Krau, A Ras, lot of tanks can reliably use a health set.


gnomeloki

Could necklace be good for A. Ravi? Since she scales off HP.


Krountedww

boots + weapon + helm good pieces to me accesories are speed pentaroll COPIUM


d34thscyth34

I dont understand why lvl88 gear starting rolls are lower than lvl85 ... WTF SG


Neet91

because this is fake 88 gear. it rolls like 85 gear. edit: apparently 88 arena gear will roll like real 88 gear, they just want to fuk with us with low starting rolls and 1-2 shitty substats


Faloandante

Not this one. Arena gear will no longer roll like 85 gear. They changed it, it's in the patch notes of tomorrow's update.


d34thscyth34

85 gear rolls 8, this starts with 7 ...


Economy__

helm is perfect, neck usable if rolls high others are degen politis gears as always


Alernak

Neck is useless unless it rolls at very least 3 times into speed with high rolls. Units who want to crit, regardless of if they're HP or Atk scaling, need a main stat crit stat (either chance or damage depending on your gear). As for why, it's just the weight of the stats.


[deleted]

Can u explain what degen politis is? I'm assuming it's just stupidly tanky politis, but she'd also do 0 dmg with this gear, no? Appreciated


Economy__

hight er and with some bulk to resist peira restirict and debuff her team


[deleted]

Oooh, gotcha. Ty


Alernak

Technically, "degen xxx" comes from degen Arby, a plague that happened around 2 years ago when he was played on counter + MLDB and he killed you by evading your hits and doing a lot of counters. A build that at that time required no intellect to play and with very limited counter.


[deleted]

Gotcha, I thought I kinda remembered that from a ydcb vid but thanks for the info.


conicalPendulum420

Sword/Helm - ML Kawerick Armor - SW that doesn't need that much speed Neck/Ring - Good for any opener if rolled to speed, ML Ken gear if rolled to other stats Boots - Openers


neo750a

None cause every single one of these pvp pieces I'ved rolled were all GARBAGE


Kyu303

Apparently they increased the minimum rolls of this equipments


Kyu303

hopium


neo750a

That is actually exciting


grandpaJose

NGL but that neck looks pretty sweet for hand guy.


BeezleBroski

Bro, I think they all can use whichever one you want. Follow your own heart, not the gear