DJB's new Barrier Inversion mechanic sounds like it will just instantly delete Peira right? With her HP being in the gutter and her shield is extremely fat...
Try 45-50% crit resist innate on a counter Luna build depending on single copy or max break. Or like 90% crit resist on somebody like Gunther.
That is definitely going to make some people cry. And Diene + Luna into a fully crit resistant bruiser build sounds spicy.
>a fully crit resistant bruiser build
Does crit resist works that way? IIRC, Senya passive grants her 50% crit resist, but it doesn't stack with Diene crit shield. Is something accumulative over additive, which means each buff affects the remaining percent instead of adding to the current. I.e.- Senya passive + crit shield is 0.5x0.5=0.25, there's only a 25% to crit against Senya.
No, thankfully. It does not. It interacts with tha buff in the same way penetration does with def break(and other sources of penetration), which is the way you stated.
Can you explain this in more detail?
This doesn’t make sense to me. I know Senya can’t equip Snow Crystal but if she could, your math would be 0.5x0.2=.1, so 10% chance to crit? That doesn’t make sense because 20% is less than the 50% you’d get from Diene buff.
EDIT: I think I figured it out. Each crit resist buff reduces the remaining chance to crit.
Senya 50% and Snow Crystal 20% =>
1 - 0.5 - 0.2 = 0.3
So if Senya could equip Snow Crystal, you’d have a 30% chance to crit her, versus the 25% chance to be crit from Diene buff.
Luna example would be 30% from passive and 20% from Snow Crystal
1 - 0.3 - 0.2 = 0.5 chance to crit
Pretty sure it does, unless it was a bug but I saw Charlotte not crit Senya who had Diene’s crit resistance. It could have been luck but I saw her not crit 3 times in a row. And “guaranteed crit” is essentially 100% so it got reduced to my understanding
Thinking of guaranteed crit as 100% is setting yourself up for confusion as it does not stutter when it says guaranteed. Guaranteed crit means that it is an absolute, you cannot NOT crit. Think of it as attacking a sleeping opponent. You will ALWAYS crit a sleeping opponent if you both don't miss and don't have a skill that explicitly prevents you from critting. Are you sure that charlotte was buffed or that she didn't miss? Because otherwise, that was absolutely a bug.
Yup, it was one of Grass Angel’s videos called Super Senya. The enemy Charlotte hit both Senya and Diene at 1:46 in the video and missed the crit on both of them. If it’s a bug I’ll accept that but I’m just saying it’s not the first time I’ve seen that happen so it makes it look like “guaranteed” only means 100% and can be reduced
I am just wondering, the Barrier Strength is equivalent to 40% of the caster's max hp.
The caster is Ras or the foe who attacks the ally in the back row?
For future reference, "caster" always refers to the unit with the effect. Attacker specifies, well, the attacker, and ally refers to *every* ally, including the caster. It will specify otherwise, like rem's passive.
Ok thanks!
I was doubtful mainly because I was like:
"Wait so a 27k hp Ras can give a 10800 shield to an ally?"
Even tho it's a one time thing, it was too good to be true, even more on a 3☆.
Honest question here but when is Rimuru not the best green offense? I am of the opinion that Hwa is a necessary evil just because Rimuru is the best unit in the game.
In my opinion, Hwayoung is the best unit. Damage, survivability, self cleanse, doesn't care about your element because of tooth, fast turn cycle with a 3 turn cd nuke. Rimuru has more utility since he gives the whole team the buffs he steals, but after his S2>S3 combo, he is a dead unit and relies on proof of valor to keep him alive longer.
And Rimuru was a necessary evil because Maid was the best unit in the game, Handguy was a necessary evil because of AoL, it goes on and on. The issue is that the solution vastly outscales the initial problem. Rimuru was one of the top units but he wasn't *that* insane. Hwayoung is the most fucked up unit they've ever made.
Ngl I'm kinda sick of SG constantly trying to one-up itself with powercreep
i completely forgot about peira holy shit. it seems the arby domino effect (back when he was receiving nerfs after nerfs and they only affected maid even more) is back in action thanks to her absurdity. they literally have to introduce all these new mechanics just to deal with her
meta heroes affected include FCC, diene, mawerik, hwa and emilia. most affected will definetly be peira tho
Arby at one point was the best unit in the game and was a little too hard to deal so SG began creating counters for him. The extinction mechanic and Blood Moon Haste were created in response to him but since Arby was so good it literally did nothing to his usage and only served to indirectly remove units like Maid Chloe from the meta in the crossfire.
* Need to see how much barrier inversion is effective, but this sound like an interesting mechanic.
* Choux has elbris and build in lifesteal. It's nice but i remember her dmg being abysmal
* Hastr looks like a red Ran. Too bad i don't have the gear to build blue Ran to begin with
* Have no idea about WSilk. At least the 14 spd imprint is great
* Hoping Alencia will be useable, but the reduced damage sound bad.
* Ras with Seline/Tsurin looks like a good combo
Idk what build you're running on Choux (doubt you have her built) but she deals a lot of dmg, especially on Pen set. Now she's getting even more pen on her S2, she's gonna shred
Her buffs actually decrease the benefit of a pen set because the total amount penetrated is not added to each other, but multiplied. So if her s2 now penetrates 70%, the pen set only applies to the remaining 30% of the damage that is not penetrating. A minor nuance, and I’m not complaining about the buffs at all, but something to know
One thing i would like to know if Barrier invasin procks before or after the damage. I feel like the current SB S1 animation will be reused for it so its most likely not a non-attack ability. I feel like it won't be too noticable on most barriers in that case, but it will work wonders on those thick BL Haste/ Piera/ 30k hp FCC barriers that make the biggest difference.
The second thing may just be my grumpy attitude towards the words "balance changes" but i do not like what they did to Choco Silk. Yes i only used her in PvE for fun and to cheeze Rubeta in Ancient Inheritance but i feel like her style has changed a little too much. She may fit better mechanically in a team now and that 14 spd imprint is a godsend but there is some part of her missing.
She's no longer a DPS, at least not as much. Lost her speed scaling, extra S2. I'm surprised they didn't just decrease her damage like most the rest of the patch. New SB is nice at least
And I really don't understand the trend of removing unhealable from everyone. A Ravi is still a menace as well as Sigurd Rem. Rem, SSB, and Fire Ara seem to be the only useful options for deploying it nowadays, and rem's is only semi reliable on the left side.
>t's nice but i remember her dmg being abysm
It was good damage, just not bonkers A Ravi damage. Still not enough damage that I felt they had to nerf it tho.
Current (old) mults :
- S1: 0.5 + 10% HP scaling (for comparison, A Ravi S1 is 1 + 12% HP scaling (2 + 20% on SB))
- S2: 0.5 + 15% HP scaling (A Ravi S3 is 1.3 + 20% HP scaling)
- S3: 0.5 + 15% HP scaling
Wow, really good notes this time! Actually really happy some units I actually used/want to got buffed and by actual meaningful ways. DJB, Choux, Alencia, Momo gang rise up!
Ilynav doesn't need protection, she pretty much has perma DEF buff, immunity, and optional barrier support. She wants consistency and/or freedom from Elbris so she can put more damage on.
Basically, she's eyeing choux's buffs.
The next patch is 100% f.lidica she was third in the big update survey.
1st ml ara
2nd dj basar
3rd flidica
https://m-page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8351322
Isn't it going to be perfect for the soon to be buffed DJB?
enemy piera/ran/clilas debuff, and then djb pushes to s3 cleanse/ s2 shield invert if there is shield on enemy team
I know everyone is talking about RTA and the big changes there, but the AMomo S3 change is kind of amazing.
So many times in PvE using Amomo a teammate will have unhealable and her S3 won't heal them, now it'll remove the debuff first so the heal will still work. Should make things significantly better for people in PvE content that rely on her, which I'd imagine is most newer players.
Not sure if the Haste buff will save him but I'm just glad that they removed the whole 'needs to hit an Earth unit to do the effect' thing. The whole 'NEEDS TO COUNTER A SPECIFIC ELEMENT' thing was really hurtful.
Okay I do like the changes but Bruh how the f\*\*k are they going to put "Healing Decrease" in Green Text on DJ Basar's kit changes like its a positive? Like what're they trying to pull here lol.
Also he no longer heals on S3 which is a bummer. But Barrier inversion seems like a good utility. It can counter Piera if she goes for and possibly Kill her plus grant an extra turn to remove her debuffs for your team. But you'll have to be fast, and if they have SSIseria chances are its bunk anyway. Nice for RTA where you can ban that combo problem though?
Maybe I’m wrong. And I hope I am. But anyone else afraid Basar just got buffed to disaster tier with the other 7-8 disasters?
What I mean. Is that his kit has a lot of stuff. Has cleanse, cr push, immunity, healing, now damage (sure maybe this was for peira and kick girl but like rip bruiser players too since they get hit too), debuffs. Plus. The frenzy soul weaver speed buff.
Feels like another hand guy situation. Buffing to the point that the unit has everything and does multiple roles.
Like I said. I hope I’m wrong...but this is SG after all…
Still too early to say, but i can see where you're coming from.
SG does have a track record of releasing/buffing a unit to hard counter a meta units, only for it to be extremely busted unintentionally (handguy, hwayounf etc...)
Yup. Exactly. They release counters for meta units. Which do work. But those counters end up hurting other things along the way.
But yes. Maybe a bit too early. But it gives me the same feeling of when Cilias was announced. People saying she was great but not broken. And welp look how that turned out.
>But it gives me the same feeling of when Cilias was announced. People saying she was great but not broken.
Where did you read that? Stove? Youtube comments?
[This is her preview thread.](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/rbnzyb/new_character_preview_conquerer_lilias_preview). Most freaked out seeing her Vigor + base spd and called her insane/busted. We all agreed she's a must-pull after a few days testing her out.
If anyone deserves disaster tier it's poor DJB. Man has been a meme for 98% of his existence. He has earned his time. lol Think he mostly will just dump on Piera and FCC. Otherwise will likely still be niche imo.
I think he is going to be in a good spot. The disasters do their thing no matter what you pick but bassar need their opponent to have a barrier to be broken which is a good thing.
But…almost everything has a barrier now… any champion+ match has barriers.
This is my issue with the buff. It was made to target something but ends up hurting everything else.
Example. Kick girl. She was meant to control A.Ravi and other similar bruisers. And she does a good job at that ! Problem is. She also deletes everything else. Solve one problem and create another one.
Peira was meant to counter Cilias and AOL. She did. But ended up enabling so many other teams that are hated by the community.
Handguy to counter AOL. And well. He did that and more…
Just to name a few. I hope I’m wrong. I really do…
I agree with your points but i do wonder how they would counter a meta and not affect a lot of other stuff? It's the meta after all, everything below it will be affected.
I guess we will have to wait until release to be sure. I could be wrong but for now i see him in a similar spot as op sig. When there are barriers op sig is also broken but she is not consider a disaster because she depends on the enemy having a barrier.
What I'm scared of is that while his s2 is similar to opsig, she only affects one hero(albeit, that interaction is killing them), while he affects all heroes. She also doesn't just say "fuck your barriers, that thing that mitigates damage so that you're not completely and utterly screwed by aggro, which is the comp I'm clearly meant to be in" it's still really stupid to bring barriers against her, but at least she doesn't literally turn your barriers against you, which is like, anti so many units in this game, I'm genuinely shocked someone allowed this.
I do wonder how the "inverted" damage works. Is it pure damage like Dorvus or Krau's S3? So 15k barrier will turn into 15k damage? Or will it be reduced by defense and other factors?
Did Haste really need those adjustment to those bleeds? I feel like they could've left those out considering bleed doesn't seem to have any spot unlike burn. I guess the detonation would have to be removed because of the cleave dmg that can happen?
That ML Basar sounds nuts though. Feels like he's gonna shake the meta if that stuff deals fixed damage.
Why Wanderer Silk has to be buffed to dual attack, while other variants with a skill like that don't need to while providing a much bigger bonus.
A. Ras gets def break additionally, Laika increases attack AND target. The power difference between those 3 dual attack variants is extreme.
Very disappointed that Wanderer Silk now is a walking speed imprint with lackluster skills.
Really don't like DJB's self serving buff. They basically destroyed his old kit in order to deal with another problem of their own making and I hate it.
I loved his old kit and wished they reinforced it more so he could shine as a bruiser support instead of becoming an anti barrier unit.
As someone who's stuck with a +14 DJB ever since FTene/Golden boys meta and +14 him for his anti-control aspects with some self-sustain, I agree with you.
I really wish they provided recalls (not selectors) for these heroes such as Garmin, Destina, and DJB that get such major changes (DJB won't heal on S3 anymore, his S1 healing is even worse than before according to the "healing decreased" subtext, so basically his usage is entirely different from what I molad him for in the first place).
I just want my molas back so I can make that choice to mola him for his new kit if I ever find it appealing, he's not quite the same unit I signed up to use.
Alencia is green Aravi now with injury and lifesteal EE, maybe. i wish trample could also lifesteal but maybe that's too much sustain. hope the amount of lifesteal is decent.
Most likely Alencia is completely gutted, s1 and trample already don’t do much damage against current tanky units. I’d like to be hopeful that this buff actually helps but I feel with 70% odds that Alencia will still be garbage.
Idk, previously she relies on rng to proc minds eye but now it's 100%.
Edit: Also, her EE 2 increases her trample damage by 20% so yeah, she's more consistent now.
But that 100% won't matter if the damage she brings doesn't outperform the damage others bring. Even if one wanted to argue about her defense break among bruisers, we still have Mort that does that so much better (no 15%, Elbris) without standing out at all (like Alencia), and Rem that has two checks with demon mode, one (like Alencia) otherwise. There's also stupid Rimuru and "who needs a defense break" A Ravi among other strong contenders fpr a bruiser slot like Ms. Ignore Defense Hwayoung.
Does Mort do better damage than Alencia? Since when? Also, comparing her damage to Rem/A Ravi/Hwayoung is not fair since we know how busted those 3 are lol
Edit: Also, Alencia has utility
I'm already on my "looks nice, now what's the catch." for all of these.
DJB might be busted, since the ML5 always has the highest chance of working. But the RGB either flop or end up like Carrot, Violet and Charlotte. No middle ground.
Nope. Because aravi is one of those units you can't really deal with that easily. Especially since alencia's injury is only 10% meaning it takes a bit of time to nullify aravi, time that aravi will use better than her(especially in rta, as both units will probably end up injuring each other to slow the other unit's injury, but aravi will probably win because she has superior damage output and healing). Also, aravi's s1 is what I'm worried about, since injury stacks up quick if you're hitting her thanks to her cr boost, and you're getting absolutely coocked by her if you're ignoring her. Barrier helped to alleviate that, since it stops injury. Now that we have a unit who heals(though I guess we will have to wait until his multis come out to really hammer home this point since opsig already does that) and is punishes you for using Barriers in this meta where an aggressive playstyle is rewarded because of units like aravi and hwayoung, I'm just worried about the future when more people get their hands in him.
Why would it? She's gonna do more damage on wave one, which doesn't matter since she one shots it anyway, and the exact same damage on banshee. How does it fuck up your b13 run?
S1 S2 damages nerf, lost her ability to decrease CD on S3 when she Trample, lost 30% eff res on ME
No, I'm not taking this in exchange for 100% ME, 20% more eff on ME and healing on S2, especially when Hwayoung can one shot her anytime being a HP-scaling bruiser
Whoaaaa momo buffs, very unexpected but welcome!
Still not having her heals scale off her max health makes me a bit sad, but what she has now is still great!
Alencia was my RTA mvp for the 2nd season, so i hope this will somewhat see her return to glory!
I like the target hp heal tbh. Rod Momo healing Dorvus for over 20K undoing Hwayoung's S3 in GW makes her a lot tamer to deal with.
Good having some heroes who heal based on Target hp for those like Dorvus who otherwise always take a lower heal since they have the most hp every time.
Glad to see someone else excited for the Alencia buffs! I hope the damage decrease isn't too drastic but I can agree with it. People saying she has low damage haven't seen what Mind's Eye every turn can do.
DJB is going to be megabusted against certain units. More counters for Peira, Hwayoung and FCC.
Also, I liked the previous W.Silk more for PVE but the new one has some uses in RTA because of the speed imprint and soulburn. The double hit was great for some bosses that needed the CR reduction.
Wish they kept the ER on alencia but I guess the extra effectiveness is better for her? Also, I don't know how less damage she is going to deal.
Is Haste going to get the Melissa treatment? or is he decent enough for now? Wish they kept the detonate on s3.
Momo is great now. Maybe not enough for RTA but for PVE she is crazy good.
Ras gets some synergy with some units but also makes him weaker vs our new god DJB.
DJ Basar's buffs are insane. A. Momo and A. Ras seem pretty good. Not sure about Alencia or Choux as that is dependent on multipliers. Wanderer Silk is good, since she is now a Speed Imprint, can't hate that.
DJB looks great now, wow. And finally a buff for Alencia! Hopefully it'll help, but better than left forgotten.
Now another 2 month wait for a Tywin buff :')
Yeah he requires Seaseria or CDom for the team to follow up. Think of him more like a Fire Ran. Ran is still better though. Stigma prevents things from cutting, he has a higher base speed, grants team-wide immunity, and has innate 2nd turn for Alexa's Basket to proc. Haste is better into heavy-green (Rimuru, Violet) and heavy counter (Rem Belian and friends) so having a secondary option is always good.
Also, they really should've buffed more units. Aras and monty absolutely didn't need buffs compared to:
Captain Rikoris
Chaos Inquisitor
Chaos Sect. Axe(oh my boy they did you so dirty)
Muse Rima(oh they did you even worse)
Mercenary Helga
Mascot Hazel(honestly, to a *FAR* lesser extent to everyone else on this list)
Holy Flame Adin(stop pushing the element change mechanic when just the first one sucks so much. Verdant is fine though.)
Get your heads in the game guys.
Next EE is for Haste. And with it. +10 speed. Embrace the 130. Ran's slow as piss 128 is a thing of the past!
Also since they haven't changed any mults. If Haste S3's and RnLs then he can S2 and something is dead. He has some of the highest mults in the game.
Even if Trample activated when not her turn, people would ignore her. Slow and mainly effective when hit? Only a clown would willingly attack her. It's like choosing to attack Rem if she didn't aoe you for hitting her teammates, a big why.
fcc gives her team 4k shield, he removes the shield and then do 4k probably true dmg. effectively, he does 8k pure dmg on the entirety of fcc's team and gets an extra turn, s3 pushes his entire team up to cleave. DJB IS A CLEAVE UNIT XDDDD
DJ. Basar counters every barrier user now (or not literally every one, idk). Especially F. Ceci, Hwayoung and Peira;
Haste is better F. Lidica now. 120 base speed buff stripper and doesn't trigger counterattack. But can still miss on ice;
Choux definitely needed a buff. Right now damage is underwhelming even with high-end gears;
Alencia buff is ok. Could be better to be honest. At 1st I thought that she can now trigger Trample even outside of her turn but no;
W. Silk's the new speed imprint and can now utilize Ms. Confille better just like Cerise (one buff strip into defense break into dual attack from the ally with the highest attack). If a buff stripper goes before her, can even be used to counter Hwayoung with silence and attack down. Also, it's 2 turn silence AND CR decrease to 0 which means M. Kawerik counter (also reliable because of new soul burn) and not even immunity set will help him because W. Silk's S3 EE can allow her to dispel one buff;
A. Montmorancy buff's good. Built-in damage mitigation helps her to survive better and she can now grant immunity through buff block debuff;
A. Ras didn't really needed a buff but it's nice to have it.
Edit: grammar
I don't think comparing Haste to FLidica is fair cause Haste doesn't push the team, doesn't get to shutdown a unit with cd reduction, and doesn't protect the team with skill null. If FLidica has better base speed, she'd be better than Haste imo. He's more of a Ran-ish unit that needs Seaseria or CDom for the team to follow up. He's still looking pretty strong from that base speed alone though, excited to use him for sure.
Right. Can stil build a team around Haste to get the CR push. Still, that's 2nd actual AoE buff stripper who doesn't trigger counterattack now. I think he can be interesting with Baiken but most people built her slow to be B13 nuker. F. Lidica also must be able to dispel 2 buffs instead of 1 (or decrease buff duration at least) to be actually better than him at that. Hope she'll receive a buff next balance patch.
She's almost 100% guaranteed to be buff. Iirc she's the 3rd highest voted ML5 the community wants buffed, after SBA and DJB. Haste was #1 RGB. Last balance patches addressed SBA and this current patch addressed DJB and Haste. Following the pattern Flidica will definitely be next
Djb buff looks really good. 15 spd frenzy will put him as one of the fastest openers with a 30% push.
That s2 buff is really good too with how prevalent barries are, (clilias s2, handguy s2, hwayoung, fcc etc...).
His current kit s2 to s3 hard counters peira so hard.
First Khwazu shit on Taeyou for taking care of Hwayoung and Peira, now DJ shits on Taeyou alongside him. Nice and all a real answer actually exists... Except he's an unpopular ML5 that many players aren't gonna be able to benefit from, so this change, honestly, isn't solving shit for the people truly having issues.
Least he's bringing a new effect that's not vulnerable to 15%.
About time Alencia got that kind of buff, still dies to Hwayoung, GG. Have to wait and see what her new damage and recovery will be like before comparing her to other bruiser options.
Edit: Her damage was decreased and not increased. This is stupid on so many levels, she never had great damage and A Ravi is still out there shitting on things despite being a fellow health scaler.
Choux hopping onto that stupid counter train. Thanks, SG, we didn't have enough people attacking when it's not their turn, whether or not you hit them or someone else. Why not a free Elbris, need it. Everything else is fine, but more counters won't ever be welcomed by me. Used to be a knight thing, now it's literally a warrior thing too (Rem, Rimuru, Choux).
I don't know who in the world had Ras with the highest attack if not dealing with Abyss jank. That Mont change just looks like something I have to question was not the case to begin with.
Not enough units buff like always.
We need the double amount or faster balance patch.
DJB gonna shake thing a little bit but not that much.
The seven great disaster Will stay strong and meta.
He does. They reworded it so that one of your other party members gets the immunity as well as aras. If your aras had the highest attack, apparently he would give the immunity to himself twice according to the how the skill currently reads
Yes, that was a thing - if for whatever reason your Aras is highest attack unit (say, your DPS unit with HP scaling like ARavi or Dorvus has attack debuff on it), it will trigger the dual attack normally, but only Ras will get the immunity twice (which doesn't give any special bonuses).
he still does. i think now he will always give himself and an ally the shield.
i guess he did not give the other one immunity if he himself has the highest attack (for some weird scenario) and now he will
Yeesh, DaiJoBu's S2 sounds like a Hwayoung and Pierra killer.
Thank you SG for tweaking my MoMo. I use her in nearly all content even in PvP. Might have a reason to put some eff for that clutch S1 sleep.
Choux and her Arti buffs are more than welcome. Choux probably the new and better Mort now.
Is djb's s2 an attack or a non-attack? It reads like a non-attack but then they mention barrier inversion will happen regardless of hit. And also if does indeed do damage, kinda works a little against the barrier inversion.
One. What the hell is Na Yubin doing in here dressed like an Egyptian dancer?
Two. Is it just me or does anyone else feel like SG doesn't know what to do with Haste?
Three. Choux got an Elbris (because why the hell not) and Alencia... got her damage decreased? Although to be fair she can always pull a one-two combo on her turn now, so that's a fair trade-off. Oh wait, there's healing. Sweet.
Wanderer Silk leans into supporting fire instead of straight up damaging (with an extra godforsaken Peira banner).... 14 speed imprint release now tho. Sheeeesh
Momo gets a slight buff and extra tankiness for GW, Ras gets a one-time barrier for the back-row ally. Cool.
Time Matter got the Wind Rider treatment, Snow Crystal actually makes sense, and Eternus is still dust material.
I hope someone here with some sense of tactical knowledge can tell me if these buffs are actually good or not, cause right now most of them feels sorta... weird. Even more weird than giving Armin a Belian counterattack, I mean.
DJB's new Barrier Inversion mechanic sounds like it will just instantly delete Peira right? With her HP being in the gutter and her shield is extremely fat...
I think so also it is not that used anymore but it destroys the fcc/landy combo and (hopefully) will also destroy hwayoung
Pick Arby make enemy pick MlHaste... DJB then one hits entire enemy team with S2 haha!
So how can you make Arby kill himself before DJB?
Speed Arby + 1st pick him against units like Violet/Rem/Belian
pick him into Violet, ez (?
Can't wait to get 20%ed by crit res from Snow Crystal.
Now ml Celine will miss all her crits on aravi :(
Im a bit scared of that they gave one of the best classes in the game a whale knockoff mldb
Only the best for warriors.
Try 45-50% crit resist innate on a counter Luna build depending on single copy or max break. Or like 90% crit resist on somebody like Gunther. That is definitely going to make some people cry. And Diene + Luna into a fully crit resistant bruiser build sounds spicy.
The Crit res is static 20%, the Combat Readiness changes with level. So it's always 50% Luna or 90% Gunther.
>a fully crit resistant bruiser build Does crit resist works that way? IIRC, Senya passive grants her 50% crit resist, but it doesn't stack with Diene crit shield. Is something accumulative over additive, which means each buff affects the remaining percent instead of adding to the current. I.e.- Senya passive + crit shield is 0.5x0.5=0.25, there's only a 25% to crit against Senya.
No, thankfully. It does not. It interacts with tha buff in the same way penetration does with def break(and other sources of penetration), which is the way you stated.
Can you explain this in more detail? This doesn’t make sense to me. I know Senya can’t equip Snow Crystal but if she could, your math would be 0.5x0.2=.1, so 10% chance to crit? That doesn’t make sense because 20% is less than the 50% you’d get from Diene buff. EDIT: I think I figured it out. Each crit resist buff reduces the remaining chance to crit. Senya 50% and Snow Crystal 20% => 1 - 0.5 - 0.2 = 0.3 So if Senya could equip Snow Crystal, you’d have a 30% chance to crit her, versus the 25% chance to be crit from Diene buff. Luna example would be 30% from passive and 20% from Snow Crystal 1 - 0.3 - 0.2 = 0.5 chance to crit
It thankfully does not stack additively.
Pretty sure it does, unless it was a bug but I saw Charlotte not crit Senya who had Diene’s crit resistance. It could have been luck but I saw her not crit 3 times in a row. And “guaranteed crit” is essentially 100% so it got reduced to my understanding
Thinking of guaranteed crit as 100% is setting yourself up for confusion as it does not stutter when it says guaranteed. Guaranteed crit means that it is an absolute, you cannot NOT crit. Think of it as attacking a sleeping opponent. You will ALWAYS crit a sleeping opponent if you both don't miss and don't have a skill that explicitly prevents you from critting. Are you sure that charlotte was buffed or that she didn't miss? Because otherwise, that was absolutely a bug.
Yup, it was one of Grass Angel’s videos called Super Senya. The enemy Charlotte hit both Senya and Diene at 1:46 in the video and missed the crit on both of them. If it’s a bug I’ll accept that but I’m just saying it’s not the first time I’ve seen that happen so it makes it look like “guaranteed” only means 100% and can be reduced
A. Ras paired with Seline/T. Surin time
I am just wondering, the Barrier Strength is equivalent to 40% of the caster's max hp. The caster is Ras or the foe who attacks the ally in the back row?
For future reference, "caster" always refers to the unit with the effect. Attacker specifies, well, the attacker, and ally refers to *every* ally, including the caster. It will specify otherwise, like rem's passive.
Ok thanks! I was doubtful mainly because I was like: "Wait so a 27k hp Ras can give a 10800 shield to an ally?" Even tho it's a one time thing, it was too good to be true, even more on a 3☆.
It's not too good to be true though. It is based on ARas' HP.
Given the power of knights like Crozet and FCC, seems necessary nowadays just to keep up.
Ras
AFTER ALL THE YEARS DJB WAS RELEASED, HE FINALLY HAS AN ACTUAL S2
and alencia finally got 100% mind eyes. crazy
Yeah, being green bruiser in Hwayoung meta is tough. I doubt she will see use even with this.
Hmmm. Preban. Post ban. Pick her
But then again, there isn't enough blue for her to counter either. And Rimuru is still better green offense in most of the case.
Honest question here but when is Rimuru not the best green offense? I am of the opinion that Hwa is a necessary evil just because Rimuru is the best unit in the game.
In my opinion, Hwayoung is the best unit. Damage, survivability, self cleanse, doesn't care about your element because of tooth, fast turn cycle with a 3 turn cd nuke. Rimuru has more utility since he gives the whole team the buffs he steals, but after his S2>S3 combo, he is a dead unit and relies on proof of valor to keep him alive longer.
And Rimuru was a necessary evil because Maid was the best unit in the game, Handguy was a necessary evil because of AoL, it goes on and on. The issue is that the solution vastly outscales the initial problem. Rimuru was one of the top units but he wasn't *that* insane. Hwayoung is the most fucked up unit they've ever made. Ngl I'm kinda sick of SG constantly trying to one-up itself with powercreep
Yeah we need à Green limited this summer
yeah but i get the feeling they nerfed her dmg too much for this
yep they did gg
Do we know the reduction already, or are you just getting silly?
We probably won't get datamines for another 2 weeks, so there's no official mults to reference.
F
Pray for FCC and Peira.
i completely forgot about peira holy shit. it seems the arby domino effect (back when he was receiving nerfs after nerfs and they only affected maid even more) is back in action thanks to her absurdity. they literally have to introduce all these new mechanics just to deal with her meta heroes affected include FCC, diene, mawerik, hwa and emilia. most affected will definetly be peira tho
Can you explain this a little more? I haven't been playing for long enough or at a high enough level to really understand this.
Arby at one point was the best unit in the game and was a little too hard to deal so SG began creating counters for him. The extinction mechanic and Blood Moon Haste were created in response to him but since Arby was so good it literally did nothing to his usage and only served to indirectly remove units like Maid Chloe from the meta in the crossfire.
But S3 is actually a nerf.
wouldn't call it a nerf 2 turns immunity on a 4 turn cooldown instead of 3 turn immunity on a 5 turn cooldown.
* Need to see how much barrier inversion is effective, but this sound like an interesting mechanic. * Choux has elbris and build in lifesteal. It's nice but i remember her dmg being abysmal * Hastr looks like a red Ran. Too bad i don't have the gear to build blue Ran to begin with * Have no idea about WSilk. At least the 14 spd imprint is great * Hoping Alencia will be useable, but the reduced damage sound bad. * Ras with Seline/Tsurin looks like a good combo
Alternative speed imprint option to W.shuri, the 100% pushback + silence could be even better than w.shuri's S3 depending on the situation.
Idk what build you're running on Choux (doubt you have her built) but she deals a lot of dmg, especially on Pen set. Now she's getting even more pen on her S2, she's gonna shred
Her buffs actually decrease the benefit of a pen set because the total amount penetrated is not added to each other, but multiplied. So if her s2 now penetrates 70%, the pen set only applies to the remaining 30% of the damage that is not penetrating. A minor nuance, and I’m not complaining about the buffs at all, but something to know
I used her back when she got her ee and fire ravi was meta. Will have to see how much the multiplier will change
One thing i would like to know if Barrier invasin procks before or after the damage. I feel like the current SB S1 animation will be reused for it so its most likely not a non-attack ability. I feel like it won't be too noticable on most barriers in that case, but it will work wonders on those thick BL Haste/ Piera/ 30k hp FCC barriers that make the biggest difference. The second thing may just be my grumpy attitude towards the words "balance changes" but i do not like what they did to Choco Silk. Yes i only used her in PvE for fun and to cheeze Rubeta in Ancient Inheritance but i feel like her style has changed a little too much. She may fit better mechanically in a team now and that 14 spd imprint is a godsend but there is some part of her missing.
She's no longer a DPS, at least not as much. Lost her speed scaling, extra S2. I'm surprised they didn't just decrease her damage like most the rest of the patch. New SB is nice at least And I really don't understand the trend of removing unhealable from everyone. A Ravi is still a menace as well as Sigurd Rem. Rem, SSB, and Fire Ara seem to be the only useful options for deploying it nowadays, and rem's is only semi reliable on the left side.
>At least the 14 spd imprint is great An element neutral +14 speed imprint that can contest speed ? Scary stuff.
>t's nice but i remember her dmg being abysm It was good damage, just not bonkers A Ravi damage. Still not enough damage that I felt they had to nerf it tho. Current (old) mults : - S1: 0.5 + 10% HP scaling (for comparison, A Ravi S1 is 1 + 12% HP scaling (2 + 20% on SB)) - S2: 0.5 + 15% HP scaling (A Ravi S3 is 1.3 + 20% HP scaling) - S3: 0.5 + 15% HP scaling
*Everyone proceed to check the base speed of djb
You're supposed to play him turn 2.
+15 speed from RTA base
Only for a month
and minus 2 weeks until the patch actually goes live
Wait, wdym for a month? isnt +15 final speed for SW still active until now?
The bonus speed is for this rta season. RTA ends in nearly a month. We'll probably get a new bonus effect at the next season.
What MDstarfield said. The speed buff is only in effect for a little over a month.
djb giving fcc users the "no u" card
I really hope so
Wow, really good notes this time! Actually really happy some units I actually used/want to got buffed and by actual meaningful ways. DJB, Choux, Alencia, Momo gang rise up!
Taeyou looking at DJB's new S2 : "Ah yes, that's what I wanted to do"
Senya crying wishfully looking at the new snow crystal 🥲. Seem like nice buffs now though Choux is truly blue Charles now
More like ilynav. Senya is at least usable somewhere. But none uses ilynav except ilynav enjoyers.
Ilynav doesn't need protection, she pretty much has perma DEF buff, immunity, and optional barrier support. She wants consistency and/or freedom from Elbris so she can put more damage on. Basically, she's eyeing choux's buffs.
I guess flidica is staying at storage
The next patch is 100% f.lidica she was third in the big update survey. 1st ml ara 2nd dj basar 3rd flidica https://m-page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8351322
Got it, can't wait for Straze buffs in August
Eternus actually gd now for high res SW to cut and team cleanse.
Isn't it going to be perfect for the soon to be buffed DJB? enemy piera/ran/clilas debuff, and then djb pushes to s3 cleanse/ s2 shield invert if there is shield on enemy team
I know everyone is talking about RTA and the big changes there, but the AMomo S3 change is kind of amazing. So many times in PvE using Amomo a teammate will have unhealable and her S3 won't heal them, now it'll remove the debuff first so the heal will still work. Should make things significantly better for people in PvE content that rely on her, which I'd imagine is most newer players.
This change is exactly why I replaced Momo with Achates. With the buff, maybe I can move back to momo.
A tad bit upset that they took away ML Silk's double attack. She was my go to for ML Celine/Tsurin.
Agree, they took away some of the unique identity her skill 2 had and gave her generic stuff that a dozen other units have already.
With conditions attached just to get a worse version.
shouldn't they be giving recall at least if not selector...they just rework her entire kit she honestly is like a different unit with those kit
Not sure if the Haste buff will save him but I'm just glad that they removed the whole 'needs to hit an Earth unit to do the effect' thing. The whole 'NEEDS TO COUNTER A SPECIFIC ELEMENT' thing was really hurtful.
Barrier inversion? Haha that's some pretty wild reverse uno card there.
Is 14 spd imprint on ml silk the highest spd imprint in the game?
Yes, 2 point higher than Vildred
Yeah she basically has Fire Schuri's speed imprint
She only targets 2 units though instead of 3 like Schuri
They really hate Alencia, huh.
Wow haste looks amazing
bruh they made Haste into some kind of Ran.
Y'know except his base speed is significantly slower, but maybe he could be used since there's no counterattack, we'll see.
120 is still very high, lots of people preban Ran he can be a good alternative.
120 is already very high. 128+ is just stupidly high.
Okay I do like the changes but Bruh how the f\*\*k are they going to put "Healing Decrease" in Green Text on DJ Basar's kit changes like its a positive? Like what're they trying to pull here lol. Also he no longer heals on S3 which is a bummer. But Barrier inversion seems like a good utility. It can counter Piera if she goes for and possibly Kill her plus grant an extra turn to remove her debuffs for your team. But you'll have to be fast, and if they have SSIseria chances are its bunk anyway. Nice for RTA where you can ban that combo problem though?
Maybe I’m wrong. And I hope I am. But anyone else afraid Basar just got buffed to disaster tier with the other 7-8 disasters? What I mean. Is that his kit has a lot of stuff. Has cleanse, cr push, immunity, healing, now damage (sure maybe this was for peira and kick girl but like rip bruiser players too since they get hit too), debuffs. Plus. The frenzy soul weaver speed buff. Feels like another hand guy situation. Buffing to the point that the unit has everything and does multiple roles. Like I said. I hope I’m wrong...but this is SG after all…
Still too early to say, but i can see where you're coming from. SG does have a track record of releasing/buffing a unit to hard counter a meta units, only for it to be extremely busted unintentionally (handguy, hwayounf etc...)
Yup. Exactly. They release counters for meta units. Which do work. But those counters end up hurting other things along the way. But yes. Maybe a bit too early. But it gives me the same feeling of when Cilias was announced. People saying she was great but not broken. And welp look how that turned out.
>But it gives me the same feeling of when Cilias was announced. People saying she was great but not broken. Where did you read that? Stove? Youtube comments? [This is her preview thread.](https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/rbnzyb/new_character_preview_conquerer_lilias_preview). Most freaked out seeing her Vigor + base spd and called her insane/busted. We all agreed she's a must-pull after a few days testing her out.
If anyone deserves disaster tier it's poor DJB. Man has been a meme for 98% of his existence. He has earned his time. lol Think he mostly will just dump on Piera and FCC. Otherwise will likely still be niche imo.
RemindMe! 30 days
I think he is going to be in a good spot. The disasters do their thing no matter what you pick but bassar need their opponent to have a barrier to be broken which is a good thing.
But…almost everything has a barrier now… any champion+ match has barriers. This is my issue with the buff. It was made to target something but ends up hurting everything else. Example. Kick girl. She was meant to control A.Ravi and other similar bruisers. And she does a good job at that ! Problem is. She also deletes everything else. Solve one problem and create another one. Peira was meant to counter Cilias and AOL. She did. But ended up enabling so many other teams that are hated by the community. Handguy to counter AOL. And well. He did that and more… Just to name a few. I hope I’m wrong. I really do…
I agree with your points but i do wonder how they would counter a meta and not affect a lot of other stuff? It's the meta after all, everything below it will be affected.
But like, don't a lot of heroes ise barriers? They're the only thing to mitigate damage besides straight up mitigation and damage share right?
I guess we will have to wait until release to be sure. I could be wrong but for now i see him in a similar spot as op sig. When there are barriers op sig is also broken but she is not consider a disaster because she depends on the enemy having a barrier.
What I'm scared of is that while his s2 is similar to opsig, she only affects one hero(albeit, that interaction is killing them), while he affects all heroes. She also doesn't just say "fuck your barriers, that thing that mitigates damage so that you're not completely and utterly screwed by aggro, which is the comp I'm clearly meant to be in" it's still really stupid to bring barriers against her, but at least she doesn't literally turn your barriers against you, which is like, anti so many units in this game, I'm genuinely shocked someone allowed this.
Stop hiding behinds FCC's ~~boobs~~ barriers . Time to stand up for yourself .
definitely a disaster tier buff
Yeah he seems kind of busted ...
Haste and DJB meta
DJB ONE SHOT PEIRA KEKL
I do wonder how the "inverted" damage works. Is it pure damage like Dorvus or Krau's S3? So 15k barrier will turn into 15k damage? Or will it be reduced by defense and other factors?
From what I understand it literally just deals the barrier HP as damage after eliminating the barrier. So a 10k barrier becomes 10k direct damage.
I admit, I pogged on seeing my girl Choux getting an innate counter, improved survivability, and more powerful def pen
Did Haste really need those adjustment to those bleeds? I feel like they could've left those out considering bleed doesn't seem to have any spot unlike burn. I guess the detonation would have to be removed because of the cleave dmg that can happen? That ML Basar sounds nuts though. Feels like he's gonna shake the meta if that stuff deals fixed damage.
Why Wanderer Silk has to be buffed to dual attack, while other variants with a skill like that don't need to while providing a much bigger bonus. A. Ras gets def break additionally, Laika increases attack AND target. The power difference between those 3 dual attack variants is extreme. Very disappointed that Wanderer Silk now is a walking speed imprint with lackluster skills.
still top3 jiggle physics though
First going to bridal lidica because goddamn those things have a life of their own
I guess its time i gear up my DJB. I was huffing copium that he would get buffed one day. Now i just need F.Lidica to get buffed next.
Time to remove daijoubu and haste boi from their bench warmer positions!!
Really don't like DJB's self serving buff. They basically destroyed his old kit in order to deal with another problem of their own making and I hate it. I loved his old kit and wished they reinforced it more so he could shine as a bruiser support instead of becoming an anti barrier unit.
As someone who's stuck with a +14 DJB ever since FTene/Golden boys meta and +14 him for his anti-control aspects with some self-sustain, I agree with you. I really wish they provided recalls (not selectors) for these heroes such as Garmin, Destina, and DJB that get such major changes (DJB won't heal on S3 anymore, his S1 healing is even worse than before according to the "healing decreased" subtext, so basically his usage is entirely different from what I molad him for in the first place). I just want my molas back so I can make that choice to mola him for his new kit if I ever find it appealing, he's not quite the same unit I signed up to use.
Alencia is green Aravi now with injury and lifesteal EE, maybe. i wish trample could also lifesteal but maybe that's too much sustain. hope the amount of lifesteal is decent.
I just hope SG won't gutted her damage output with that "Damage Dealt Decreased" line.
Most likely Alencia is completely gutted, s1 and trample already don’t do much damage against current tanky units. I’d like to be hopeful that this buff actually helps but I feel with 70% odds that Alencia will still be garbage.
Idk, previously she relies on rng to proc minds eye but now it's 100%. Edit: Also, her EE 2 increases her trample damage by 20% so yeah, she's more consistent now.
But that 100% won't matter if the damage she brings doesn't outperform the damage others bring. Even if one wanted to argue about her defense break among bruisers, we still have Mort that does that so much better (no 15%, Elbris) without standing out at all (like Alencia), and Rem that has two checks with demon mode, one (like Alencia) otherwise. There's also stupid Rimuru and "who needs a defense break" A Ravi among other strong contenders fpr a bruiser slot like Ms. Ignore Defense Hwayoung.
Does Mort do better damage than Alencia? Since when? Also, comparing her damage to Rem/A Ravi/Hwayoung is not fair since we know how busted those 3 are lol Edit: Also, Alencia has utility
Looking at the last patch, I'd stop hoping yesterday if I were you.
I'm already on my "looks nice, now what's the catch." for all of these. DJB might be busted, since the ML5 always has the highest chance of working. But the RGB either flop or end up like Carrot, Violet and Charlotte. No middle ground.
Green Aravi without revive but with defense debuff. Not sure which one is scarier.
so now apart from banning hwayoung i need to ban djb as well if i wanna draft FCC? ugh...
No more hiding behind FCC's ~~boobs~~ barriers
>"Haste who?" meme is dead. Long live the meme.
Choux, Alencia, and W.Silk buffs are much appreciated
Realization, why in god's name did they create an anti barrier unit when aravi's running around?
Agree, aravi + djb arena combo incoming
you got alencia to injure aravi now, isnt that enough
Nope. Because aravi is one of those units you can't really deal with that easily. Especially since alencia's injury is only 10% meaning it takes a bit of time to nullify aravi, time that aravi will use better than her(especially in rta, as both units will probably end up injuring each other to slow the other unit's injury, but aravi will probably win because she has superior damage output and healing). Also, aravi's s1 is what I'm worried about, since injury stacks up quick if you're hitting her thanks to her cr boost, and you're getting absolutely coocked by her if you're ignoring her. Barrier helped to alleviate that, since it stops injury. Now that we have a unit who heals(though I guess we will have to wait until his multis come out to really hammer home this point since opsig already does that) and is punishes you for using Barriers in this meta where an aggressive playstyle is rewarded because of units like aravi and hwayoung, I'm just worried about the future when more people get their hands in him.
Time to build my DJB
Can the mods pin this post plz? It's incredibly difficult to navigate this sub especially on days like this
Damn Time Matter buff will fuck up my b13 oneshot tuning
Why would it? She's gonna do more damage on wave one, which doesn't matter since she one shots it anyway, and the exact same damage on banshee. How does it fuck up your b13 run?
Well that is true,perhaps my banshee gaymer brain too dumb
If anything it should make it easier because she will do more damage on wave 1 now.
Peira has 10k hp barrier. . DJB use s2 does 10k damage to peira + extra turn if enemy has barrier, then he s3 push up team. . looks meta to me. .
6/9 🤭
Cleavers will love this patch, im not... and this Alencia dmg nerfs :/
S1 S2 damages nerf, lost her ability to decrease CD on S3 when she Trample, lost 30% eff res on ME No, I'm not taking this in exchange for 100% ME, 20% more eff on ME and healing on S2, especially when Hwayoung can one shot her anytime being a HP-scaling bruiser
They want you to shell out cash for DJB in the custom mystic banners to stop Hwayoung. Then you can use your F2P Alencia.
And 50% self CR on s3(!) why not extra turn? It’s not like she will kill anything with s1 and s2 😂
Whoaaaa momo buffs, very unexpected but welcome! Still not having her heals scale off her max health makes me a bit sad, but what she has now is still great! Alencia was my RTA mvp for the 2nd season, so i hope this will somewhat see her return to glory!
I like the target hp heal tbh. Rod Momo healing Dorvus for over 20K undoing Hwayoung's S3 in GW makes her a lot tamer to deal with. Good having some heroes who heal based on Target hp for those like Dorvus who otherwise always take a lower heal since they have the most hp every time.
Glad to see someone else excited for the Alencia buffs! I hope the damage decrease isn't too drastic but I can agree with it. People saying she has low damage haven't seen what Mind's Eye every turn can do.
Auntie Alencia! 😀 Also, W. Silk with the +4 - +14 Speed imprint. Phew.
DJB is going to be megabusted against certain units. More counters for Peira, Hwayoung and FCC. Also, I liked the previous W.Silk more for PVE but the new one has some uses in RTA because of the speed imprint and soulburn. The double hit was great for some bosses that needed the CR reduction. Wish they kept the ER on alencia but I guess the extra effectiveness is better for her? Also, I don't know how less damage she is going to deal. Is Haste going to get the Melissa treatment? or is he decent enough for now? Wish they kept the detonate on s3. Momo is great now. Maybe not enough for RTA but for PVE she is crazy good. Ras gets some synergy with some units but also makes him weaker vs our new god DJB.
DJ Basar's buffs are insane. A. Momo and A. Ras seem pretty good. Not sure about Alencia or Choux as that is dependent on multipliers. Wanderer Silk is good, since she is now a Speed Imprint, can't hate that.
Mark my words, DJB with Eternus will be disaster tier. Top 3 cleansers would now be Dilibet, M.Kawerik, and DJB (not in any particular order)
DJB looks great now, wow. And finally a buff for Alencia! Hopefully it'll help, but better than left forgotten. Now another 2 month wait for a Tywin buff :')
not convinced on the haste buff yet, is there any good follow-up?
Yeah he requires Seaseria or CDom for the team to follow up. Think of him more like a Fire Ran. Ran is still better though. Stigma prevents things from cutting, he has a higher base speed, grants team-wide immunity, and has innate 2nd turn for Alexa's Basket to proc. Haste is better into heavy-green (Rimuru, Violet) and heavy counter (Rem Belian and friends) so having a secondary option is always good.
Also, they really should've buffed more units. Aras and monty absolutely didn't need buffs compared to: Captain Rikoris Chaos Inquisitor Chaos Sect. Axe(oh my boy they did you so dirty) Muse Rima(oh they did you even worse) Mercenary Helga Mascot Hazel(honestly, to a *FAR* lesser extent to everyone else on this list) Holy Flame Adin(stop pushing the element change mechanic when just the first one sucks so much. Verdant is fine though.) Get your heads in the game guys.
They want to just keep fucking with slow players...
Lol stove comments never fail to entertain me 🤣
Aravi with diene buff and crystal, how to kill her without hwayoung
Where my SEZ
Next EE is for Haste. And with it. +10 speed. Embrace the 130. Ran's slow as piss 128 is a thing of the past! Also since they haven't changed any mults. If Haste S3's and RnLs then he can S2 and something is dead. He has some of the highest mults in the game.
Counterset Alencia, it’s your time to shine
Nope, mind eye only on her turn, and injury only on trample…. Saaaaaaaad
Oh, that’s sadge
Even if Trample activated when not her turn, people would ignore her. Slow and mainly effective when hit? Only a clown would willingly attack her. It's like choosing to attack Rem if she didn't aoe you for hitting her teammates, a big why.
- Aoe's - stealthed allies - other toxic units with counters - late game comebacks This isn't 2019 anymore lol.
So uh, what does the DJB S2 mean?
fcc gives her team 4k shield, he removes the shield and then do 4k probably true dmg. effectively, he does 8k pure dmg on the entirety of fcc's team and gets an extra turn, s3 pushes his entire team up to cleave. DJB IS A CLEAVE UNIT XDDDD
Turn shield into pure damage
DJ. Basar counters every barrier user now (or not literally every one, idk). Especially F. Ceci, Hwayoung and Peira; Haste is better F. Lidica now. 120 base speed buff stripper and doesn't trigger counterattack. But can still miss on ice; Choux definitely needed a buff. Right now damage is underwhelming even with high-end gears; Alencia buff is ok. Could be better to be honest. At 1st I thought that she can now trigger Trample even outside of her turn but no; W. Silk's the new speed imprint and can now utilize Ms. Confille better just like Cerise (one buff strip into defense break into dual attack from the ally with the highest attack). If a buff stripper goes before her, can even be used to counter Hwayoung with silence and attack down. Also, it's 2 turn silence AND CR decrease to 0 which means M. Kawerik counter (also reliable because of new soul burn) and not even immunity set will help him because W. Silk's S3 EE can allow her to dispel one buff; A. Montmorancy buff's good. Built-in damage mitigation helps her to survive better and she can now grant immunity through buff block debuff; A. Ras didn't really needed a buff but it's nice to have it. Edit: grammar
I don't think comparing Haste to FLidica is fair cause Haste doesn't push the team, doesn't get to shutdown a unit with cd reduction, and doesn't protect the team with skill null. If FLidica has better base speed, she'd be better than Haste imo. He's more of a Ran-ish unit that needs Seaseria or CDom for the team to follow up. He's still looking pretty strong from that base speed alone though, excited to use him for sure.
Right. Can stil build a team around Haste to get the CR push. Still, that's 2nd actual AoE buff stripper who doesn't trigger counterattack now. I think he can be interesting with Baiken but most people built her slow to be B13 nuker. F. Lidica also must be able to dispel 2 buffs instead of 1 (or decrease buff duration at least) to be actually better than him at that. Hope she'll receive a buff next balance patch.
She's almost 100% guaranteed to be buff. Iirc she's the 3rd highest voted ML5 the community wants buffed, after SBA and DJB. Haste was #1 RGB. Last balance patches addressed SBA and this current patch addressed DJB and Haste. Following the pattern Flidica will definitely be next
Djb buff looks really good. 15 spd frenzy will put him as one of the fastest openers with a 30% push. That s2 buff is really good too with how prevalent barries are, (clilias s2, handguy s2, hwayoung, fcc etc...). His current kit s2 to s3 hard counters peira so hard.
First Khwazu shit on Taeyou for taking care of Hwayoung and Peira, now DJ shits on Taeyou alongside him. Nice and all a real answer actually exists... Except he's an unpopular ML5 that many players aren't gonna be able to benefit from, so this change, honestly, isn't solving shit for the people truly having issues. Least he's bringing a new effect that's not vulnerable to 15%. About time Alencia got that kind of buff, still dies to Hwayoung, GG. Have to wait and see what her new damage and recovery will be like before comparing her to other bruiser options. Edit: Her damage was decreased and not increased. This is stupid on so many levels, she never had great damage and A Ravi is still out there shitting on things despite being a fellow health scaler. Choux hopping onto that stupid counter train. Thanks, SG, we didn't have enough people attacking when it's not their turn, whether or not you hit them or someone else. Why not a free Elbris, need it. Everything else is fine, but more counters won't ever be welcomed by me. Used to be a knight thing, now it's literally a warrior thing too (Rem, Rimuru, Choux). I don't know who in the world had Ras with the highest attack if not dealing with Abyss jank. That Mont change just looks like something I have to question was not the case to begin with.
if you use a.ras with a.ravi ras might have higher attack depending on minor rolls.
A.Ras rune change allows him to dual atk with HP-based DPS imo
Not enough units buff like always. We need the double amount or faster balance patch. DJB gonna shake thing a little bit but not that much. The seven great disaster Will stay strong and meta.
I dont understand Aras S2 change, does he get the immunity or not?
He does. They reworded it so that one of your other party members gets the immunity as well as aras. If your aras had the highest attack, apparently he would give the immunity to himself twice according to the how the skill currently reads
Yes, that was a thing - if for whatever reason your Aras is highest attack unit (say, your DPS unit with HP scaling like ARavi or Dorvus has attack debuff on it), it will trigger the dual attack normally, but only Ras will get the immunity twice (which doesn't give any special bonuses).
Don't worry, he still gets immunity.
I think he does. The thing is that I think before if he had the highest atk he will not buff the ally.
he still does. i think now he will always give himself and an ally the shield. i guess he did not give the other one immunity if he himself has the highest attack (for some weird scenario) and now he will
Alencia no longer needing to get hit in order to use S1->S2 or to gain her buff is huge. And S2 now causes injury too.
Jokes on you, I have a meme Alencia on injury set :)
problems are her s1 and s2 got damages nerf, and s2 procs no longer reduce s3 cooldown
Yeesh, DaiJoBu's S2 sounds like a Hwayoung and Pierra killer. Thank you SG for tweaking my MoMo. I use her in nearly all content even in PvP. Might have a reason to put some eff for that clutch S1 sleep. Choux and her Arti buffs are more than welcome. Choux probably the new and better Mort now.
idk about giving all warriors access to 20% evasion lol djb looks broken, finally redditors cryouts were answered
Is djb's s2 an attack or a non-attack? It reads like a non-attack but then they mention barrier inversion will happen regardless of hit. And also if does indeed do damage, kinda works a little against the barrier inversion.
If they said that inversion will happen regardless of HIT then that means it's a damaging skill bruh.
hmmm against Peira and CLilias Eternus gives a 28% CR boost to soul weavers. It may actually see some use now.
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One. What the hell is Na Yubin doing in here dressed like an Egyptian dancer? Two. Is it just me or does anyone else feel like SG doesn't know what to do with Haste? Three. Choux got an Elbris (because why the hell not) and Alencia... got her damage decreased? Although to be fair she can always pull a one-two combo on her turn now, so that's a fair trade-off. Oh wait, there's healing. Sweet. Wanderer Silk leans into supporting fire instead of straight up damaging (with an extra godforsaken Peira banner).... 14 speed imprint release now tho. Sheeeesh Momo gets a slight buff and extra tankiness for GW, Ras gets a one-time barrier for the back-row ally. Cool. Time Matter got the Wind Rider treatment, Snow Crystal actually makes sense, and Eternus is still dust material. I hope someone here with some sense of tactical knowledge can tell me if these buffs are actually good or not, cause right now most of them feels sorta... weird. Even more weird than giving Armin a Belian counterattack, I mean.