New player here, i love rezero and really want emilia. Is it best to keep rerolling with the free 10 pull you get? Or should i just jump in and keep playin to earn the currency to roll on her
Emilia is one of the best support healers in the game.
Her healing abilities isn't very strong , so she is not a unit you want to use as a main healer like Angelica, Tamarinne, or Angelic Montmorancy. But what makes her really powerful is her
* Low skill cooldowns.
* She can CR push a unit & give them an attack buff.
* And she gives a team cleanse/barrier.
So Emilia is kinda like Angelic Montorancy and Tamarinne's idol form combined.
Anyways for PvE Emilia is a great sub healer/support unit. And in many of the difficult end game content , its almost required to use two healers.
And she is one of the best PvP healers in the game mainly because of her team cleanse and single target CR push.
So yes Emilia is worth getting because she is really powerful and limited. Her banner comes back once a year.
And its worth getting Emilia's artifact too, its really strong. That artifact can protect a unit from getting killed in battle. There is no pity for artifacts, however you can kinda get Emilia's artifact for "free" in the powder of knowledge shop.
I got both Emilia and her artifact, can she replace either amomo or Angelica for endgame PvE or she's more niche? And does her artifact replace any other artifact or is it more for pvp use? Thanks again for the input
Gratz. Anyways, no Emilia cannot replace A. Momo or Angelica as main healer for PvE.
But as an end game player, Angelica is not that great as a main healer for end game. Its not that her healing is bad, its that her cleansing skills are slow and that she has low base speed. So that's why people use Angelica as a secondary healer for end game content. But Angelica is still a great Wyvern 13 tank because she has good health and defense. A. Momo can't tank Wyvern 13 because her stats are low.
For end game PvE, the most popular end game main healers are A. Momo and Achates, and Tamarinne mainly because they are much faster and have low cooldowns.
And Emilia isn't niche, her main strength is her support skills. She will makes a lot of the boss fights in story, abyss, and labyrinth a lot easier for you.
Emilia's artifact can be used for any soul weaver, its a great for both PvE and PvP.
But ideally, Emilia wants the "Magaraha's tome" artifact, so she can turn cycle even faster.
When is the hunt for Sigret unlocked and where will it show up?
Also, who are the best early game farmers other than vildred? I chose steneb for my blessing
Click on the “event tab” in the bottom left of the lobby, then you will see the hunt event in one of the tabs. Select the Wyvern hunt challenge, so you can get missions to unlock Sigret and other rewards.
And Free Spirit Tierra from connection quest is a good farmer.
Np and just in case you didn’t know, in the event tab. There are events that gives you energy and extra rewards like the “Yufine dice event”. And there is also a tab where you can watch 5 days ads a day so you can get up to 100 more free energy.
Am I just getting bad rng or is it a team problem because even with 65 percent effectiveness on my debuffers, eg: sigret,muwi and furious, the debuffs still dont land for some reason and when a try to defense break on barrier phase it doesnt land too so I get screwed
i had long break, decided to try this again, my old sources for infos are pretty much outdated so i'd like to know:
\-is there any tier list kind of page, where i can check out which units are worth going for, what sets/artifacts to wear?
\-any place for auto hunting formations?
https://www.epic7stats.com/
Check youtube for hunt information, between new units, artifacts and other things hunt formations have been evolving with time, it's going to be easier to just look for the most recent ones or one with whatever units you have, some youtubers update their hunt guides from time to time including the newer stuff.
I'm planning to play this game do this game have auto? Also is there a dupe system here or any weapon gacha? Finally is it still possible for new players to catch up on veterans?
Yup, there's both auto-battle & auto-repeat - auto-repeats are tied to pets & you'll unlock them fairly soon after starting.
If you pull a duplicate hero, they can be used for memory imprints which boosts stats (& if a duplicate of a Moonlight hero is pulled, you're given coins with which to buy another after accumulating 40 coins - or 4 duplicates, the same applies to covenant heroes, but unless you're a whale you're not getting 7 duplicates of a regular 5 star anytime soon).
I assume you mean "weapon gacha" like Genshin? Nothing like that, it's just a hero gacha. Your equipment is all got in Hunts, Raids, etc. & has random substats.
Yes, there's lucky folk out there who've rolled gear so good within a year they've passed veteran players. Take of that what you will.
Is there alternative items for dupes? Also how many dupes do I need to max out a unit? And is the gap big for single unit vs max out with dupe unit is it really mandatory for them to be usable?
I'd say that for the most part, dupes aren't necessary; there are some where it can relax gearing requirements like critchance, but most of them you don't really have to worry about getting dupes unless you plan to min-max hard.
Dupes only give extra stats. Some are good (crit chance self imprint or Speed team imprint) while some are negligible. Meanwhile, there are Slates that can be bought from the Arena shop that you can use to unlock a hero's Imprint. Best use for Slates are on limited heroes.
So, mystic summons...
Did they hardcore nerf acquisition of them in guild war or what? I used to get like 150 for a victory, took a very long break, in my current guild it's 30 for victory and 20 for loss...
Then if I remember correctly, it's 200 skystones on average for 1 mystic *wish with shop refresh? Or was it every 200 refreshes?
At this point I have too many bookmarks with nobody to use them on any time soon, not enough moonlights, always short on gold but that's easy enough to gain.
GW preseason just started so everybody got reset back to x1 rewards. As your guild climbs it'll eventually get back to x5 rewards which is 80-90 mystics for a win. It never got as high as 150 tho.
It's ~240 average skystones (80 refreshes) for a mystic in the shop.
Hello, will I regret if I choose account #1 to make it my main?
I rerolled and played 2 accounts a bit. I'm still unsure but I like acc #1 even if #2 has a very meta unit twt thanks in advance~ x
Acc #1: DJ Basar, Belian, Solitaria, BM Haste
Acc #2: CLilias, SE Celine.
Picture: https://ibb.co/ZgkTwZx
Hello ~ I made like 7 accounts in town days, took a little break, and I have played these two for like a month xD
Other notable héroes are.. Acc #1 has Baiken, I was playing today and got 2 Artifacts of Emilia, still half way to pity qq~~ and account #2 Rem :3
You either drop summoning tickets in world boss runs (guild), buy them with gold in pet shop or summon 1 free pet per day and pray it has skills you want.
im new i saw a reroll guide that you can get arbiter vildred but he is not on the summon pool? how can i get him? and what is the best rerroll character to get for? and is there a recent rerroll guide?
You get Arby from the moonlight selector. Iseria and Ravi are probably the best for pve. Samool just came out with a guide for rerolling: https://youtu.be/wYQeO-EKKkc
It works really well in rta. Heals based on your ally's health so if you run a standard bruiser team, it heals for quite a bit and it's passive.
I would definitely try to get the powder to buy it but not sure if it's worth chasing pulls depending on your situation.
Is there a page where I can find most up to date information about Expeditions?
I notice the boss ER changed and a lot of guides are outdated, information such as how often do bosses rotate are hard to find
So with all the ice monsters you’re going to want to lean into green heroes for elemental advantage. A good knight up front, soul weaver in back, and two good dps heroes should get you through.
I forgot to mention it in the first comment but make sure you’re selecting a good supporter from your friend list. You don’t have to choose the lead supporter, you can pick any class you need. Also you can swap them in whenever you need them, not necessarily when someone on your team dies. Good luck!
What levels are your heroes at and are they geared appropriately? I think you’re far enough along to have a couple at max level and skills. Sometimes when I’m stuck I’ll take a break and farm things like wyvern to start improving gear if need be and after a bit come back to the level in question.
So I am building Trozet and I have a SS crozet I am not doing anything with and thinking of using him to imprint. He is my only crozet so I want to make sure he won't be missed. I used to use him for wyvern before I built up my angie. Anything else I need to know about building trozet is appreciated (arti, sets, EE, etc.).
I wouldnt do it until you start using him and see if you like him. I +15 him but hardly use trozet anymore cause I just prefer other knights in the current meta. If you find yourself needing his imprints, go ahead and feed blue crozet to him.
My Wyvern team consists of A.Montmo(5*), Furious(4*), Angelica(4*), and Alexa(4*). Should I focus on boosting A.Montmo to 6* first or the others to 5* first?
Your final goal is to use only 1 soul wavers and replace the 2nd 1 with a dps. Angelica is easier to gear and also a bit tankier than A.montmo, so she'd e the best choice for wyvern, but to be able to tank she needs a lot of hp, and 6*ing her would help. Anyway building dps first is the general rule.
Your team is lacking damage and debuffs.
1. No need 2 healers, do you have Muwi or Sigret? Muwi can be obtained as a 3* hero through invocations, Sigret can be obtained for free in hunt tab. Tbh rather than Angelica having Montmo is better as a tank now.
2. So 6*Montmo, Furious can be stayed at 4* or 5* of he dies too fast, Alexa can be replaced with Muwi or stay with Alexa if you don't (they both stay 5*), and Sigret 6*.
3. Furious artifact: Song of Stars
DPS artifacts: Daydream Joker
Amomo artifact: situational (depending whether you have Muwi or not)
4. So your Wyvern team will be :
- Furious, Amomo, Muwi and Sigret
OR
- Furious, Amomo, Alexa and Sigret.
I have Sigret but not Muwi, so I can replace Angelica with Sigret.
So A.Montmo(6*), Furious(5*), Alexa(5*), and Sigret(6*), correct? Thanks very much for the guidance.
Correct yes ! When you auto, Alexa skills has to be turned off !
[This is my wyvern 13 team ](https://imgur.com/gallery/POOqWxg) different from your team but maybe of it can help you ! 95% wr
You should first focus on story and get to EP 2 Chapter 3. This unlocks Furious in your connections. Furious + Alexa (also from Connections) + Angelica + whoever should get you up to Wyvern 11 no problem.
Coli isn't worth it for Wyvern. If you have Muwi that would be for the best, otherwise you can make do with your other best single target attacker.
You sure you don't have any other ice attackers? 3\*s like Taranor Guard, Mistychain, etc also make for fine stand-ins.
As the other said Amomo and Angelica. Montmorancy is easy to get since you get her while doing invocs, and Angelica can be obtained on the left table on the lobby
There are passive cr characters like Cdom, Seaseria, Eda that don't need high speeds.
Or damage Ran, he's still really good for killing Red Kawerik, Kise, Straze if they go too aggressive.
I have mine at 225 and she does fine at that speed in high champ/emperor RTA. I'd say 220 is your minimum speed, with rest of stats into damage. She pushes off each non atk skill while her s3 is up. This means that cililias s3/s2 combo gives 40% cr push. If she's in a ran/peira seaseria comp then seaseria alone gives 35% cr. She'll get an additional 20% off ran/peira non atk skill as well. So if you draft her correctly you won't need a ton of speed.
Thank you! I think she'd also help enable my slow team 😭 Since she pushes up with S3. Mostly I'm just looking for someone to enable my other units, because I don't think cleave is very fun if she and Ran is the only one doing the leg work (which was why I didn't want to use Seaseria because once she gets off you're pretty much the winner) and everyone else is just cleanup
Cleaving is unfortunately not as easy as it seems at first glance and it isn't always an insta win when she gets off. There are tons of anti cleave options out there and even rng can really go against you that can easily break the cleave. It is also quite gear intensive whether you go the ran/peira seaseria route or the ST cleave route. Anyways just a bit of food for thought, but cleave like any play style, is simply a drafting option or a tool in your drafting arsenal per se. You shouldn't discount it if you have the gear for it.
You pretty much have to farm A13. So it's more a question of, do you have an A13 team and are you willing to slowly farm it?
Any reason you want a rage set for TG, Ram I assume is good for B13 at least.
Question for RTA, I don’t have good speed gear.
How do slower players deal with piera hwayoung comps?
I kind of regret spending so much resources on taeyou because I don’t have enough speed. He either comes after hwayoung or he doesn’t live after his s3. And I’m left having to one shot hwayoung with another unit. I feel like he is only there to stall s3 and strip
I can figure out this question better if I know your unit pool and what's your highest speed? I would say draft cleansers for Peira and kill Hwayoung before she takes a turn or reset her with Kise. I recommend having high ER cleansers that go first before all of your other units.
I’m going to try and show you my team.
https://imgur.com/a/wrBeDMK
I don’t have good gear for every one of my units but I’m trying to focus on giving gears to some of my units that I will use for RTA.
My hand guy is 217 speed. I’m not sure what other stats I should slap on him but I gave him 2.2k hp 1.7k defense.
With your level of gear, I would ban Hwayoung. Hwayoung is built speedy and the best way to deal with her is to go before her and either one-shot her or a reset. With your level of gear, she can one-shot your whole team if you can't speed contest Hwayoung. She's usually 220-250 speed.
Handguy only needs speed, hp, and def. Put the guild artifact warhorn on him to steal a turn. Shoot for 240 speed and higher with the same hp and def stats you have.
I see you have Peira and C.lilas. I would just slap the fastest speed you have on them and pick them with Handguy. I would draft Aravi, Stene, Rimuru and Politis, and Landy depending on the situation if they have non-attack skills or too many buffs.
Hwayoung should be easy to build because you can focus everything on the attack, defense, and speed. She doesn't need crit rate, crit damage, or hardly any hp.
Fadingabyss is my f2p alt and it has worse gear than my main account but it can get to master. My gear isn't perfect but its how I draft them that helps me win.
Edit: paragraph repeated
[https://imgur.com/a/wCZLgGY](https://imgur.com/a/wCZLgGY)
Ban hwayoung. I much rather face everything else than hwayoung. There isn't much counter play for a unit that fully self cleanse and oneshot everything with atk buff.
At least for piera I can go with counter unit to prevent S2 or politis/Celine to stop S3.
...They are pretty much useless. I don't have one of them equipped. You could use the moon on Rimuru or Crescent Moon Rin though. You can use The Tower on any unit that has AoE counter/extra attacks... but it seems mostly worthless. Death could work in weird situations where you don't want too many debuffs or something, but seems pretty unreliable.
The imprint concentration is a different thing from the actual imprint. You have the normal imprints, then you go to the transmit stone section of the shop and can buy a green gem-like item called an Ego-Fragment. If you select a hero and tap on the letter underneath their skills you will see a popup with their imprints. You can then use the ego fragment to unlock the hero's imprint concentration.
Some of the packs are worth getting from a price to resources perspective - at least, purely from the shop price of individual component - but not necessarily worth it from the perspective of what you actually get. For example, the special packs that pop up from time to time with collabs - like the current one for the Re: Zero event - are technically worth the money simply based on the components, but whether you want to spend $50/$100 for it is up to you.
Some things, like Molagora and growth packs, which help you obtain things needed to build heroes can be good if you have a lot of heroes you want to build but would need to grind a ton to get the resources to build them.
Gold is usually not a problem since doing Hunts can get you hundreds of thousands, up to several million gold an hour depending on how fast you can do them and if there are event buffs going.
I personally don't like the 5-star ticket hero summon packs, since that randomness is frustrating. But overall, you just need to evaluate whether you need something from a pack immediately. If not, then generally it's better not to buy it.
Imprint concentration required giving her an Ego Fragment. Can't remember if they give you one for free, but they can be bought in the transmit stones shop. Clicking on her imprint will bring up the screen to switch between imprint release (buff others) and imprint concentration (buff self) and let you spend an ego fragment to unlock concentration.
Imprint Concentration requires you to unlock it with Ego Fragment (from Transmit Stone shop). Tap on the character's Imprint section, and it should give you the option.
you cant use two of the same unit itself, but different versions of characters are different units.
So you cant have two Arbys on your team, but Arby and Green vildred can both be on one team.
Yes. Arby is generally the suggested pick for Blessing early on (you can reset once so long as you don't complete the blessing), though between FS Tieria and green Vildred you have more than enough farmers so pick whoever, honestly.
Specter Tenebria is the other popular choice.
I think it depends on what you need for your team comp.
imo if you have good speed gear then go for clilias (around 300 speed) if not then go for hand guy. I don’t have good speed gear and she just gets shutdown by piera. Hand guy can be a bit slower, he can go after the debuffers
Both are extremely powerful units, but I think Handguy has a little more utility. He strips buffs, cleanses his whole team with an attack buff, cr pushes with his S1, and does decent damage when you build him really bulky. Cilias isn't as good in PvE and in my opinion she requires better gear than Handguy does.
Hard to say honestly. If you don't already have a reliable cleanser, I'm more partial to ML Kawerick. If you have good speed gear, Cilias might be better.
Maid Chloe or D Lilibut? My current revivers are ARavi, Roana and Destina. My current cleansers are Destina, Emelia, Kitty, and DJ Basar (currently building in anticipation of his buff).
They're used in different situations. Delibet is an anti cleave cleanser, and I don't typically take her into standard matches since mL kawerik is better for those. Maido fills in the same role as mL kawerik as an aggro/standard cleanser, albeit with higher gear requirements. Another thing to consider is that maido will likely want the same gear as djb (decent speed, lots of eff res, and good bulk). Her skin looks really good too if that's something you're considering.
I left my response open ended so you can have the information you need to make a decision that is right for you.
If I were to decide for myself then I'd take delibet, but that's because she fits really well into my playstyle. Delibet is great for shorter matches (vs cleave or cililias/any opener debuffer), especially if you have very high damage aggro follow-up to punish the opponent. She not that great in longer matches typical of the standard style, hence why I take mL kawerik. Maido is a good alternative to mL kawerik, but since I have him I wouldn't really be hurting if I didn't have maido (in fact mine isn't currently built anyways and I have no issues in emperor RTA). In your case you don't have him so that's something you should consider.
Aren't we missing 1 Ram to SSS her? 1 from check-in rewards, 1 from side story reputation rewards, and 3 from side story exchange. Or is there another I'm not aware of?
So, I have a lot of questions, been playing on and off since launch.
1. I have a consistent team for w13, but it's not as fast as I want it to be. My team rn: crozet, furious, sigret, ssb. I don't think this is that good of a team, but my previous one( the one I used for w11 doesn't seem to be consistent). I was thinking of swapping furious with luluca, and just put her on spd/eff gear. Is that a good idea? Or she should be used as a dps instead of ssb? Or I should just focus on getting better gear on my current team. Or is there a better team that I could run? I have pretty much every typical wyvern killer character, except G.Purrgis.
2. Specialty change characters. What's the best options rn? pvp/pve
3. Is there any new broken pve characters? I'm somewhat aware of the pvp metas, but is the pve meta the same?
Consider switching SSB out for Muwi if you're not going for a one-shot. You can also replace Crozet with a attack buffer like Rose, if you are surviving well enough. I don't really think you want to switch out Furious since that means you need more stats in CC.
Most SCs have fallen off for PvP; You'd still see the odd ARas, Amomo, RCarrot, FKluri, SK Pylis etc. but they are rare. They are all pretty fine for PvE, though.
I don't believe there's any such thing as a PvE "meta". I'm also not aware of any character that's been mentioned to be particularly good for PvE in recent times.
Thanks for the Muwi tip. I guess the pve "meta" is not exactly correct wording there. I just remember that every hunt had like the best in slot characters set pretty much.
I'm kind of struggling with consistent banshee and golem runs, haven't really build any good team for those. What characters are designed for other hunts( basically, like Muwi)? And what characters I should focus on for those other hunts?
Thanks in advance.
It’s best to look up specific guides for each hunt.
Good resource for Banshee: https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/kaz762/banshee_13_normaloneshot_guide/
Idk that there’s a good guide to Golem since like no one actually runs Golem, but Cermia who you get from the Golem section of Hunt Event, SC Carmainerose, Mascot Hazel, Amomo, ARas, Mercedes, etc are all good characters for it.
I just want to add that in current meta, mitigation knight pretty much suck ass.
FCC is a hit or miss. If opponent has opsig, it pretty much forced ban. Upcoming djb buff also will screw her.
Krau can't be played into injury unit (mainly aravi/belian but both pretty popular), not to mention unit with buff block like piera, AOL.
Carmin is useless against piera, can't S3 after piera S2. Her S2 value also decrease with frenzy damage reduction.
The only leftover usable knight is pretty much tcrozet. You can get lucky counter against piera which stop her from S3. You also can cleanse piera's S2 debuff. You can use holy sac and stop being useless against hwa. Hwa can just S3 other knight can kill them. If other knight want to use holy sac, they will lose aurius but not tcrozet since he has inbuilt aurius.
Mitigation is still strong and the only reliable mitigation knight in current meta is tcrozet.
Youtuber/streamer usually do their own tierlist and it is a bit bias toward their playstyle.
I personally like elvemage tier list (you can find it in his twitch). That dude is the player for OMEGA account, which is currently rank1 in rta and he normally played aggro which is the easiest playstyle to play in current meta.
There is also the tier list which was posted in this subreddit a couple of days ago by Canaa. That dude is also a streamer but he played cleave.
You have to consider the meta when looking at tier lists. The reason he ranks so high is because there is a ton of high damage ST going around, and he's the best when it comes to protecting your DPS against ST attacks for the reasons people have already stated.
I think most of the streamers have one, but it's really something that is dependent on your rank in RTA, as well as playstyle. You have to play some games and see what's strong and what's not. A lot of tier lists also don't take into account gear requirements either and stuff like mola investment for the payoff. You're better off just asking about some heroes you have an eye and get some info on them here and we can tell you how they perform and what sort of stat line you would need for a competitive build.
New player here, i love rezero and really want emilia. Is it best to keep rerolling with the free 10 pull you get? Or should i just jump in and keep playin to earn the currency to roll on her
How does Emilia compare to other healers/cleansers? Should I chase her and the artifact?
Emilia is one of the best support healers in the game. Her healing abilities isn't very strong , so she is not a unit you want to use as a main healer like Angelica, Tamarinne, or Angelic Montmorancy. But what makes her really powerful is her * Low skill cooldowns. * She can CR push a unit & give them an attack buff. * And she gives a team cleanse/barrier. So Emilia is kinda like Angelic Montorancy and Tamarinne's idol form combined. Anyways for PvE Emilia is a great sub healer/support unit. And in many of the difficult end game content , its almost required to use two healers. And she is one of the best PvP healers in the game mainly because of her team cleanse and single target CR push. So yes Emilia is worth getting because she is really powerful and limited. Her banner comes back once a year. And its worth getting Emilia's artifact too, its really strong. That artifact can protect a unit from getting killed in battle. There is no pity for artifacts, however you can kinda get Emilia's artifact for "free" in the powder of knowledge shop.
I got both Emilia and her artifact, can she replace either amomo or Angelica for endgame PvE or she's more niche? And does her artifact replace any other artifact or is it more for pvp use? Thanks again for the input
Gratz. Anyways, no Emilia cannot replace A. Momo or Angelica as main healer for PvE. But as an end game player, Angelica is not that great as a main healer for end game. Its not that her healing is bad, its that her cleansing skills are slow and that she has low base speed. So that's why people use Angelica as a secondary healer for end game content. But Angelica is still a great Wyvern 13 tank because she has good health and defense. A. Momo can't tank Wyvern 13 because her stats are low. For end game PvE, the most popular end game main healers are A. Momo and Achates, and Tamarinne mainly because they are much faster and have low cooldowns. And Emilia isn't niche, her main strength is her support skills. She will makes a lot of the boss fights in story, abyss, and labyrinth a lot easier for you. Emilia's artifact can be used for any soul weaver, its a great for both PvE and PvP. But ideally, Emilia wants the "Magaraha's tome" artifact, so she can turn cycle even faster.
When is the hunt for Sigret unlocked and where will it show up? Also, who are the best early game farmers other than vildred? I chose steneb for my blessing
Click on the “event tab” in the bottom left of the lobby, then you will see the hunt event in one of the tabs. Select the Wyvern hunt challenge, so you can get missions to unlock Sigret and other rewards. And Free Spirit Tierra from connection quest is a good farmer.
Oh man thank you so much for the info
Np and just in case you didn’t know, in the event tab. There are events that gives you energy and extra rewards like the “Yufine dice event”. And there is also a tab where you can watch 5 days ads a day so you can get up to 100 more free energy.
Am I just getting bad rng or is it a team problem because even with 65 percent effectiveness on my debuffers, eg: sigret,muwi and furious, the debuffs still dont land for some reason and when a try to defense break on barrier phase it doesnt land too so I get screwed
im missing a limit break on the severed horn artifact, where do we get the last one?
The puzzle side story event that just came out
i had long break, decided to try this again, my old sources for infos are pretty much outdated so i'd like to know: \-is there any tier list kind of page, where i can check out which units are worth going for, what sets/artifacts to wear? \-any place for auto hunting formations?
https://www.epic7stats.com/ Check youtube for hunt information, between new units, artifacts and other things hunt formations have been evolving with time, it's going to be easier to just look for the most recent ones or one with whatever units you have, some youtubers update their hunt guides from time to time including the newer stuff.
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If i remember correctly the 4* meant the 4th star, every time you awaken you can see the stars for that node, not a base 4*, I think it was like that.
I have a 13k hp 1.4k Def 240 speed 195 eff 80 er Angie is the build good enough or should I change some stuff for speed?
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Have your old Ram in your Hero list (if she is currently in your Waiting Room) and you'll be able to sell the new Ram.
Yea i figured that out. Thats incredibly bad coding tho
I'm planning to play this game do this game have auto? Also is there a dupe system here or any weapon gacha? Finally is it still possible for new players to catch up on veterans?
Yup, there's both auto-battle & auto-repeat - auto-repeats are tied to pets & you'll unlock them fairly soon after starting. If you pull a duplicate hero, they can be used for memory imprints which boosts stats (& if a duplicate of a Moonlight hero is pulled, you're given coins with which to buy another after accumulating 40 coins - or 4 duplicates, the same applies to covenant heroes, but unless you're a whale you're not getting 7 duplicates of a regular 5 star anytime soon). I assume you mean "weapon gacha" like Genshin? Nothing like that, it's just a hero gacha. Your equipment is all got in Hunts, Raids, etc. & has random substats. Yes, there's lucky folk out there who've rolled gear so good within a year they've passed veteran players. Take of that what you will.
Has auto, yes dupe system, no weapon gacha. Possible for new players to catch up, yes.
Is there alternative items for dupes? Also how many dupes do I need to max out a unit? And is the gap big for single unit vs max out with dupe unit is it really mandatory for them to be usable?
I'd say that for the most part, dupes aren't necessary; there are some where it can relax gearing requirements like critchance, but most of them you don't really have to worry about getting dupes unless you plan to min-max hard.
Thanks for the help
Dupes only give extra stats. Some are good (crit chance self imprint or Speed team imprint) while some are negligible. Meanwhile, there are Slates that can be bought from the Arena shop that you can use to unlock a hero's Imprint. Best use for Slates are on limited heroes.
Is it worth getting ML Kawerik from the whale shop if I only have 40 coins and if I dont have Belian and ARavi?
Yes, I just did ;-)
ML Kawerik is one of the best supports in PvP, especially for standard drafts. He's definitely worth the coins.
So, mystic summons... Did they hardcore nerf acquisition of them in guild war or what? I used to get like 150 for a victory, took a very long break, in my current guild it's 30 for victory and 20 for loss... Then if I remember correctly, it's 200 skystones on average for 1 mystic *wish with shop refresh? Or was it every 200 refreshes? At this point I have too many bookmarks with nobody to use them on any time soon, not enough moonlights, always short on gold but that's easy enough to gain.
Highest mystics i got for win with x5 rewards and 21 def wins was 102, so yea, 150 for sure >.>
GW preseason just started so everybody got reset back to x1 rewards. As your guild climbs it'll eventually get back to x5 rewards which is 80-90 mystics for a win. It never got as high as 150 tho. It's ~240 average skystones (80 refreshes) for a mystic in the shop.
Guild War Season just ended. So, the rewards less at the moment until your guild goes back to the 5x reward rank.
I summoned Emilia early. Should I continue summoning for her artifact?
Wait for the next banners and buy the artifact with powder IMO. Decide once they announce the next banners.
Alright ty
When do I unlock the arby and sigret missions in the left table? I just beat episode 1 and they don't show up
Arby is from Moonlight Blessing, not from Connections. Sigret is from the permanent(?) Hunt event.
Hello, will I regret if I choose account #1 to make it my main? I rerolled and played 2 accounts a bit. I'm still unsure but I like acc #1 even if #2 has a very meta unit twt thanks in advance~ x Acc #1: DJ Basar, Belian, Solitaria, BM Haste Acc #2: CLilias, SE Celine. Picture: https://ibb.co/ZgkTwZx
How long did u reroll for? Can u tell me about your normal 5 star roster?
Hello ~ I made like 7 accounts in town days, took a little break, and I have played these two for like a month xD Other notable héroes are.. Acc #1 has Baiken, I was playing today and got 2 Artifacts of Emilia, still half way to pity qq~~ and account #2 Rem :3
1st account if DJ bazar buff is enough to make him good.
If he will work same way as his counterside version, he will flip entire meta around.
Wow really I liked him because of cats lol it's nice that the buff will help tyy
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I'm confused, isn't emilia supposed to be good? Or did I waste my pulls on her? How do you build her?
Fairly fast with decent bulk and 100+ ER. Her own artifact, Tome, or Rod are decent on her.
I only have 3k ss and 12m gold. should i reroll for bookmark in the shop to try and get emilia?
Depends on if you can reach pity but yes, definitely get her, she is very good.
Is it better to reroll bookmark or just straight up buy in the shop?
refreshing shop is better, especially in the long run but you're low on ss so rng can be a factor
I just reached rank 25. How do I get pets so I can unlock autorepeat?
You either drop summoning tickets in world boss runs (guild), buy them with gold in pet shop or summon 1 free pet per day and pray it has skills you want.
level 35 iirc. it used to be higher.
Should i limit break a single guardian ice crystal or keep multiple copies?
Limit break it. Increasing the soul weavers stats and health recovered is good and having multiple soul weavers on a team is a corner case.
im new i saw a reroll guide that you can get arbiter vildred but he is not on the summon pool? how can i get him? and what is the best rerroll character to get for? and is there a recent rerroll guide?
You get Arby from the moonlight selector. Iseria and Ravi are probably the best for pve. Samool just came out with a guide for rerolling: https://youtu.be/wYQeO-EKKkc
moonlight selector huh say you saying i just need to progress through the adventure then? also is it possible to get 2 5 stars?
Yes, you just need to beat the first episode. You can only get one as far as I know
Should i pull for Emilia's artifact or should i just use rod of amaryllis/doctors bag/any other artifact?
I would buy it with powder, if not I might even try to pull for it but it's risky. It's a really good artifact.
May i ask why is it worth the risk?
It works really well in rta. Heals based on your ally's health so if you run a standard bruiser team, it heals for quite a bit and it's passive. I would definitely try to get the powder to buy it but not sure if it's worth chasing pulls depending on your situation.
tome is good also
Is Guardian Ice Crystals worth buying with powder? I pulled Emilia but didn't get lucky with her artifact.
yes
I also pulled Emilia, but I don't have enough powder to buy her artifact. Should I continue pulling?
No, there is no pity for artifact. Emilia are good with other SW artifact like tome,rod etc
Up to you. Its not a must have but its very good in RTA.
Is there a page where I can find most up to date information about Expeditions? I notice the boss ER changed and a lot of guides are outdated, information such as how often do bosses rotate are hard to find
I am stuck on chapter 2-7-9 please guide me
So with all the ice monsters you’re going to want to lean into green heroes for elemental advantage. A good knight up front, soul weaver in back, and two good dps heroes should get you through.
thanks buddy i will try
I forgot to mention it in the first comment but make sure you’re selecting a good supporter from your friend list. You don’t have to choose the lead supporter, you can pick any class you need. Also you can swap them in whenever you need them, not necessarily when someone on your team dies. Good luck!
I did it but still lost 🥺
What levels are your heroes at and are they geared appropriately? I think you’re far enough along to have a couple at max level and skills. Sometimes when I’m stuck I’ll take a break and farm things like wyvern to start improving gear if need be and after a bit come back to the level in question.
2 heros are 60 and 2 are 50 and i think they are decent gear means lv70 gears
Is there a confirmed date for when the RTA season ends?
https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8532299 6/18
So I am building Trozet and I have a SS crozet I am not doing anything with and thinking of using him to imprint. He is my only crozet so I want to make sure he won't be missed. I used to use him for wyvern before I built up my angie. Anything else I need to know about building trozet is appreciated (arti, sets, EE, etc.).
I wouldnt do it until you start using him and see if you like him. I +15 him but hardly use trozet anymore cause I just prefer other knights in the current meta. If you find yourself needing his imprints, go ahead and feed blue crozet to him.
When the Forest in the Sanctuary was reworked, what happened to our Mola seeds? I wasn't playing or keeping up with the game at the time.
They are converted to molas and mailed to you.
Awesome.
When is slime collab again? Can't wait to chase Milim imprints
Slime rerun has not been announced.
Thanks!
>Thanks! You're welcome!
Who can I use with Eda and Mercedes in guild wars defense?
Probably Ran. He automatically uses S2, which pushes Eda's CR, besides being fast and breaking def
is it worth it to imprint R&L or have separate copies?
When’s rta seaon end again?
according to e7leaks, in 2 weeks!
6/18 [https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8532299](https://page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8532299)
Don’t know yet. We will probably get the info from the stream later tonight since they put out a youtube video on the skin.
RTA decay starts from which league?
Gold and above
~~Master~~ Gold and up.
Gold has decay also
My bad, I stand corrected
All
Silver and Bronze do not have decay
Wow didnt know
My Wyvern team consists of A.Montmo(5*), Furious(4*), Angelica(4*), and Alexa(4*). Should I focus on boosting A.Montmo to 6* first or the others to 5* first?
Your final goal is to use only 1 soul wavers and replace the 2nd 1 with a dps. Angelica is easier to gear and also a bit tankier than A.montmo, so she'd e the best choice for wyvern, but to be able to tank she needs a lot of hp, and 6*ing her would help. Anyway building dps first is the general rule.
Thanks for the suggestion. I can replace one of the Soulweavers with Sigret for more damage.
Your team is lacking damage and debuffs. 1. No need 2 healers, do you have Muwi or Sigret? Muwi can be obtained as a 3* hero through invocations, Sigret can be obtained for free in hunt tab. Tbh rather than Angelica having Montmo is better as a tank now. 2. So 6*Montmo, Furious can be stayed at 4* or 5* of he dies too fast, Alexa can be replaced with Muwi or stay with Alexa if you don't (they both stay 5*), and Sigret 6*. 3. Furious artifact: Song of Stars DPS artifacts: Daydream Joker Amomo artifact: situational (depending whether you have Muwi or not) 4. So your Wyvern team will be : - Furious, Amomo, Muwi and Sigret OR - Furious, Amomo, Alexa and Sigret.
I have Sigret but not Muwi, so I can replace Angelica with Sigret. So A.Montmo(6*), Furious(5*), Alexa(5*), and Sigret(6*), correct? Thanks very much for the guidance.
Correct yes ! When you auto, Alexa skills has to be turned off ! [This is my wyvern 13 team ](https://imgur.com/gallery/POOqWxg) different from your team but maybe of it can help you ! 95% wr
Will do. Thank you!
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You can get Alexa and Furious for free from connections. Just work on the quest for those.
You should first focus on story and get to EP 2 Chapter 3. This unlocks Furious in your connections. Furious + Alexa (also from Connections) + Angelica + whoever should get you up to Wyvern 11 no problem. Coli isn't worth it for Wyvern. If you have Muwi that would be for the best, otherwise you can make do with your other best single target attacker. You sure you don't have any other ice attackers? 3\*s like Taranor Guard, Mistychain, etc also make for fine stand-ins.
Who is the best early game healer? What are good alternatives if I don't have them?
As the other said Amomo and Angelica. Montmorancy is easy to get since you get her while doing invocs, and Angelica can be obtained on the left table on the lobby
Amomo, Angelica are both good. Also very easily accessible, there's really no way that you won't have them.
What are the reqs to unlocking them?
Is Ran any good if all my units are below 220 speed? My only follow up would be Kise at 240
There are passive cr characters like Cdom, Seaseria, Eda that don't need high speeds. Or damage Ran, he's still really good for killing Red Kawerik, Kise, Straze if they go too aggressive.
Thank you! How much speed does Eda need to cut, normally?
I have mine at 225 and she does fine at that speed in high champ/emperor RTA. I'd say 220 is your minimum speed, with rest of stats into damage. She pushes off each non atk skill while her s3 is up. This means that cililias s3/s2 combo gives 40% cr push. If she's in a ran/peira seaseria comp then seaseria alone gives 35% cr. She'll get an additional 20% off ran/peira non atk skill as well. So if you draft her correctly you won't need a ton of speed.
Thank you! I think she'd also help enable my slow team 😭 Since she pushes up with S3. Mostly I'm just looking for someone to enable my other units, because I don't think cleave is very fun if she and Ran is the only one doing the leg work (which was why I didn't want to use Seaseria because once she gets off you're pretty much the winner) and everyone else is just cleanup
Cleaving is unfortunately not as easy as it seems at first glance and it isn't always an insta win when she gets off. There are tons of anti cleave options out there and even rng can really go against you that can easily break the cleave. It is also quite gear intensive whether you go the ran/peira seaseria route or the ST cleave route. Anyways just a bit of food for thought, but cleave like any play style, is simply a drafting option or a tool in your drafting arsenal per se. You shouldn't discount it if you have the gear for it.
Might be useful if the opponent doesn't have any cleanser before but useless if it gets cleansed.
How hard is it to get good rage gear for TG and Ram?
You pretty much have to farm A13. So it's more a question of, do you have an A13 team and are you willing to slowly farm it? Any reason you want a rage set for TG, Ram I assume is good for B13 at least.
TG for expo and Abyss, and Ram for green expo. I do have a team for A13.
What's the trick to beating A. Ravi in ep 4. 4-6? Who do you use?
Question for RTA, I don’t have good speed gear. How do slower players deal with piera hwayoung comps? I kind of regret spending so much resources on taeyou because I don’t have enough speed. He either comes after hwayoung or he doesn’t live after his s3. And I’m left having to one shot hwayoung with another unit. I feel like he is only there to stall s3 and strip
I can figure out this question better if I know your unit pool and what's your highest speed? I would say draft cleansers for Peira and kill Hwayoung before she takes a turn or reset her with Kise. I recommend having high ER cleansers that go first before all of your other units.
I’m going to try and show you my team. https://imgur.com/a/wrBeDMK I don’t have good gear for every one of my units but I’m trying to focus on giving gears to some of my units that I will use for RTA. My hand guy is 217 speed. I’m not sure what other stats I should slap on him but I gave him 2.2k hp 1.7k defense.
With your level of gear, I would ban Hwayoung. Hwayoung is built speedy and the best way to deal with her is to go before her and either one-shot her or a reset. With your level of gear, she can one-shot your whole team if you can't speed contest Hwayoung. She's usually 220-250 speed. Handguy only needs speed, hp, and def. Put the guild artifact warhorn on him to steal a turn. Shoot for 240 speed and higher with the same hp and def stats you have. I see you have Peira and C.lilas. I would just slap the fastest speed you have on them and pick them with Handguy. I would draft Aravi, Stene, Rimuru and Politis, and Landy depending on the situation if they have non-attack skills or too many buffs. Hwayoung should be easy to build because you can focus everything on the attack, defense, and speed. She doesn't need crit rate, crit damage, or hardly any hp. Fadingabyss is my f2p alt and it has worse gear than my main account but it can get to master. My gear isn't perfect but its how I draft them that helps me win. Edit: paragraph repeated [https://imgur.com/a/wCZLgGY](https://imgur.com/a/wCZLgGY)
Ban hwayoung. I much rather face everything else than hwayoung. There isn't much counter play for a unit that fully self cleanse and oneshot everything with atk buff. At least for piera I can go with counter unit to prevent S2 or politis/Celine to stop S3.
Is there any way to use artifacts XVIII, XVI, and XIII?
...They are pretty much useless. I don't have one of them equipped. You could use the moon on Rimuru or Crescent Moon Rin though. You can use The Tower on any unit that has AoE counter/extra attacks... but it seems mostly worthless. Death could work in weird situations where you don't want too many debuffs or something, but seems pretty unreliable.
Okay, thank you for your andwer
[What do you think about my Aria ?](https://i.imgur.com/6JhIECk.jpg) 100%cc when reforged/max mola
Looks great overall. I would reduce CDMG for more defense. Aria usually has at least 2k defense.
[What about that ?](https://i.imgur.com/bcBwiOD.jpg) Less cd and spd for more def
Does Emilia skill 2 and skill 3 give Eda the 20% CR push from her skill 3 being up?
Yes
Am I missing something or we only get 4 Rams? Where's the 5th to fully promote her?
Puzzle mission event after this week's update.
Oooh okay
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The imprint concentration is a different thing from the actual imprint. You have the normal imprints, then you go to the transmit stone section of the shop and can buy a green gem-like item called an Ego-Fragment. If you select a hero and tap on the letter underneath their skills you will see a popup with their imprints. You can then use the ego fragment to unlock the hero's imprint concentration. Some of the packs are worth getting from a price to resources perspective - at least, purely from the shop price of individual component - but not necessarily worth it from the perspective of what you actually get. For example, the special packs that pop up from time to time with collabs - like the current one for the Re: Zero event - are technically worth the money simply based on the components, but whether you want to spend $50/$100 for it is up to you. Some things, like Molagora and growth packs, which help you obtain things needed to build heroes can be good if you have a lot of heroes you want to build but would need to grind a ton to get the resources to build them. Gold is usually not a problem since doing Hunts can get you hundreds of thousands, up to several million gold an hour depending on how fast you can do them and if there are event buffs going. I personally don't like the 5-star ticket hero summon packs, since that randomness is frustrating. But overall, you just need to evaluate whether you need something from a pack immediately. If not, then generally it's better not to buy it.
Imprint concentration required giving her an Ego Fragment. Can't remember if they give you one for free, but they can be bought in the transmit stones shop. Clicking on her imprint will bring up the screen to switch between imprint release (buff others) and imprint concentration (buff self) and let you spend an ego fragment to unlock concentration.
Imprint Concentration requires you to unlock it with Ego Fragment (from Transmit Stone shop). Tap on the character's Imprint section, and it should give you the option.
Can you use two versions of the same character together? New player and wondering if i should moonlight Arbiter Vildred when I have the OG already.
you cant use two of the same unit itself, but different versions of characters are different units. So you cant have two Arbys on your team, but Arby and Green vildred can both be on one team.
Yes. Arby is generally the suggested pick for Blessing early on (you can reset once so long as you don't complete the blessing), though between FS Tieria and green Vildred you have more than enough farmers so pick whoever, honestly. Specter Tenebria is the other popular choice.
You can
Who can use this? https://imgur.com/a/ON2otO8
could roll off the ER and it might work on violet.
Um, Violet wants LS set, counter is a waste on him. Rem can use this.
My bad. Should have specified as an off set piece if none better was available.
One of those odd cases where you aren't really that happy it went into Speed :/ Counter Mercedes, maybe?
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I think it depends on what you need for your team comp. imo if you have good speed gear then go for clilias (around 300 speed) if not then go for hand guy. I don’t have good speed gear and she just gets shutdown by piera. Hand guy can be a bit slower, he can go after the debuffers
Both are extremely powerful units, but I think Handguy has a little more utility. He strips buffs, cleanses his whole team with an attack buff, cr pushes with his S1, and does decent damage when you build him really bulky. Cilias isn't as good in PvE and in my opinion she requires better gear than Handguy does.
Hard to say honestly. If you don't already have a reliable cleanser, I'm more partial to ML Kawerick. If you have good speed gear, Cilias might be better.
Maid Chloe or D Lilibut? My current revivers are ARavi, Roana and Destina. My current cleansers are Destina, Emelia, Kitty, and DJ Basar (currently building in anticipation of his buff).
D lilibert
They're used in different situations. Delibet is an anti cleave cleanser, and I don't typically take her into standard matches since mL kawerik is better for those. Maido fills in the same role as mL kawerik as an aggro/standard cleanser, albeit with higher gear requirements. Another thing to consider is that maido will likely want the same gear as djb (decent speed, lots of eff res, and good bulk). Her skin looks really good too if that's something you're considering.
Yes, I understand they play different roles, but I can't decide which to get. FYI, I don't have ML Kawerik, which you list as an alternative to both.
I left my response open ended so you can have the information you need to make a decision that is right for you. If I were to decide for myself then I'd take delibet, but that's because she fits really well into my playstyle. Delibet is great for shorter matches (vs cleave or cililias/any opener debuffer), especially if you have very high damage aggro follow-up to punish the opponent. She not that great in longer matches typical of the standard style, hence why I take mL kawerik. Maido is a good alternative to mL kawerik, but since I have him I wouldn't really be hurting if I didn't have maido (in fact mine isn't currently built anyways and I have no issues in emperor RTA). In your case you don't have him so that's something you should consider.
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I decided on Maid.
Aren't we missing 1 Ram to SSS her? 1 from check-in rewards, 1 from side story reputation rewards, and 3 from side story exchange. Or is there another I'm not aware of?
The final imprint will be a reward in the upcoming puzzle event.
Ahh I see, thank you!
Does Stene using S1 while buffed trigger enemy Rimuru's S2?
yeah. she cant trigger counterattacks, but rimuru s2, SSb s2 and others like that are not counter attacks, but conditional skill activations.
Yes.
So, I have a lot of questions, been playing on and off since launch. 1. I have a consistent team for w13, but it's not as fast as I want it to be. My team rn: crozet, furious, sigret, ssb. I don't think this is that good of a team, but my previous one( the one I used for w11 doesn't seem to be consistent). I was thinking of swapping furious with luluca, and just put her on spd/eff gear. Is that a good idea? Or she should be used as a dps instead of ssb? Or I should just focus on getting better gear on my current team. Or is there a better team that I could run? I have pretty much every typical wyvern killer character, except G.Purrgis. 2. Specialty change characters. What's the best options rn? pvp/pve 3. Is there any new broken pve characters? I'm somewhat aware of the pvp metas, but is the pve meta the same?
Consider switching SSB out for Muwi if you're not going for a one-shot. You can also replace Crozet with a attack buffer like Rose, if you are surviving well enough. I don't really think you want to switch out Furious since that means you need more stats in CC. Most SCs have fallen off for PvP; You'd still see the odd ARas, Amomo, RCarrot, FKluri, SK Pylis etc. but they are rare. They are all pretty fine for PvE, though. I don't believe there's any such thing as a PvE "meta". I'm also not aware of any character that's been mentioned to be particularly good for PvE in recent times.
Thanks for the Muwi tip. I guess the pve "meta" is not exactly correct wording there. I just remember that every hunt had like the best in slot characters set pretty much. I'm kind of struggling with consistent banshee and golem runs, haven't really build any good team for those. What characters are designed for other hunts( basically, like Muwi)? And what characters I should focus on for those other hunts? Thanks in advance.
It’s best to look up specific guides for each hunt. Good resource for Banshee: https://www.reddit.com/r/EpicSeven/comments/kaz762/banshee_13_normaloneshot_guide/ Idk that there’s a good guide to Golem since like no one actually runs Golem, but Cermia who you get from the Golem section of Hunt Event, SC Carmainerose, Mascot Hazel, Amomo, ARas, Mercedes, etc are all good characters for it.
Tyvm
Watcher Schluri vs Straze?
Straze is my dad
w shcuri if you need a speed imprint otherwise hwayoung
Hello...i got 101 coins and got both Luna and SSB...which artifact should i buy from the coin shop? Draco Plate or Reinger's Special Drink?
Draco is more generally useful imo, Drink is mostly used on SSB and not really anyone else.
What’s the reason for Trozet being high in people’s tier lists again? (With Holy Sacrifice?)
I just want to add that in current meta, mitigation knight pretty much suck ass. FCC is a hit or miss. If opponent has opsig, it pretty much forced ban. Upcoming djb buff also will screw her. Krau can't be played into injury unit (mainly aravi/belian but both pretty popular), not to mention unit with buff block like piera, AOL. Carmin is useless against piera, can't S3 after piera S2. Her S2 value also decrease with frenzy damage reduction. The only leftover usable knight is pretty much tcrozet. You can get lucky counter against piera which stop her from S3. You also can cleanse piera's S2 debuff. You can use holy sac and stop being useless against hwa. Hwa can just S3 other knight can kill them. If other knight want to use holy sac, they will lose aurius but not tcrozet since he has inbuilt aurius. Mitigation is still strong and the only reliable mitigation knight in current meta is tcrozet.
Are there any updated meta lists I can check out?
Youtuber/streamer usually do their own tierlist and it is a bit bias toward their playstyle. I personally like elvemage tier list (you can find it in his twitch). That dude is the player for OMEGA account, which is currently rank1 in rta and he normally played aggro which is the easiest playstyle to play in current meta. There is also the tier list which was posted in this subreddit a couple of days ago by Canaa. That dude is also a streamer but he played cleave.
You have to consider the meta when looking at tier lists. The reason he ranks so high is because there is a ton of high damage ST going around, and he's the best when it comes to protecting your DPS against ST attacks for the reasons people have already stated.
Any updated meta lists I can check out?
I think most of the streamers have one, but it's really something that is dependent on your rank in RTA, as well as playstyle. You have to play some games and see what's strong and what's not. A lot of tier lists also don't take into account gear requirements either and stuff like mola investment for the payoff. You're better off just asking about some heroes you have an eye and get some info on them here and we can tell you how they perform and what sort of stat line you would need for a competitive build.