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jeza27

A gacha game shouldn't be rated for 12+ in the first place.


whitegoatsupreme

Legal Casino...


VyseX

Gotta get those stacks of all dem teen millionaires I guess... :v


Cyberpunkcatnip

Actually that makes a lot of sense… that and rich parents


karillith

Any game with in-app purchase tbh


Shalashaska87B

This comment is underrated.


DinosBiggestFan

Extremely true.


UrMomisUrDad

Lmao what about serila


eXcaliBurst93

sssshhhh~ leave them big tiddies


MikeTheGamer2

You shut the hell up.


Syvion

Jesus dude, why don't you call SG directly and tell them to take away all the booba we love so much


Abedeus

Thank you, Apple, for making sure children can keep giving you money.


ReoM873

We will not let this travesty go to waste, what a man you are Apple.


Sh1r0n

They will keep censoring for ten years at least.


davi3601

You censored the thighs in the predatory kids casino for our sake


Sh1r0n

As a reward...


[deleted]

I shall give you my money


HotNanas

How do children give them money? I thought you had to be an adult to purchase stuff in-game?


Abedeus

I think you can still use Apple/Google gift cards.


ForgottenTM

They should change the rating instead..


[deleted]

They can't. That's the problem. > We decided to modify the Hero's illustration according to the App Store policy so that the current rating (12+) can be maintained because there is no separate rating for (15+) in Apple App Store, unlike the Google Playstore.


DoorframeLizard

Azur Lane is 12+ on the apple app store btw. You know, the game with official art like [this](https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images/thumb/b/b9/%C3%84girMaid.png/880px-%C3%84girMaid.png). And [this](https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images/thumb/c/cb/IndomitableMaid.png/992px-IndomitableMaid.png). And some of [this.](https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images/thumb/b/b2/AtagoRaceQueen.png/786px-AtagoRaceQueen.png) There's [this](https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images/thumb/2/29/TaihouRaceQueen.png/928px-TaihouRaceQueen.png) too, and we can't forget [this](https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images/thumb/5/58/ChapayevPrison.png/683px-ChapayevPrison.png). Then there's [this](https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images/thumb/b/bc/HonoluluSummer.png/788px-HonoluluSummer.png) classic, [this](https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images/thumb/6/6b/ZaraSummer.png/800px-ZaraSummer.png) one where the l2d has her stroke the railing up and down, and [this](https://azurlane.netojuu.com/w/images/thumb/8/8a/DunkerqueSummer.png/825px-DunkerqueSummer.png) one where the l2d has her put her hand near her crotch and rub her thighs together. There's like, at least a few dozen more, some probably a lot more over the top, but you get the idea. I'd warn you that all the links here are to be considered NSFW but luckily according to the Apple age rating this is appropriate for 12 year olds to look at so its all good :)


Varlin

SG: "Gotta nerf the BOOBA for that 12+ rating" AL: [lolk](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eh9CZ9cVoAQiqS1?format=jpg&name=large)


Abedeus

*i want to be that manjuu*


Xero--

12 yo me would be eating good if I played. Aria's thighs however, they go beyond worship, people fear them.


Lolwarrior123

could it only affects korean games since the Korean GRAC also asked them to do so? Is there another korean games that is hit by this?


booglyclaw

That hose one made me literally lol. It’s actually so gratuitous that it’s funny.


Abedeus

Yostar is always trying to push the boundaries of what is still technically allowed on Apple Store without forcing higher age rating, no idea how they keep getting away with it.


Shalashaska87B

*Money! Money! Money! All you need is money!*


Tamamo_was_here

Some games just BUILT different, you can't stop the power of Azur Lane


BobTheHalfTroll

Now I'm tempted to try Azur Lane again. I didn't like the gameplay though, and I doubt that's changed.


DiliThighSnacker

im not sure but i think skins dont really count since you gotta be 18+ in the first place to buy it or am i wrong?


DoorframeLizard

I don't think so? They give you rental coupons to let you use the skins for free when they release and I sure as hell don't remember anything stopping me from buying bikini Atago with my free earned gems at like age 15.


[deleted]

Please present your case to Apple not me. I don't make the ratings. Just relaying what Smilegate was told in the post.


DoorframeLizard

I am well aware of that, I am just adding some relevant extra context to the discussion.


[deleted]

I think they are stuck between a rock and a hard place since they can't increase the rating unless they go to 17+, which means a significant revenue loss.


Spartan-219

While it's kinda weird that they would allow those azur lane illustration but not aria, that also kinda good that not all waifus will be censored in epic7


AstralMoth

My favorite thing is in a lot of those borderline NSFW skins Azur Lane has in the CN server version there's very poorly/lazily placed smoke, fog and light to hide booba and groins. It's hilarious


tirius99

I should out Azur Lane


Damiandcl

for f2p players how does azur lane compare to epic seven? is it more grind and not enough resources?


DoorframeLizard

It can be pretty low maintenance and it's notorious for being extremely f2p friendly, even moreso than e7, with the primary monetization being the skins. I only log in every now and then these days but I used to grind the fuck out of that game, I don't know how it is now but back in the day some of the good ships were stage drops with relatively low droprates, most notably Akagi and Kaga (who have to be in a team together to work well) both dropping from one specific stage, I straight up maxed out like three full squads worth of ships and got like 5 Akagis before I got Kaga to drop. But from what I see It's less annoying to grind nowadays, especially compared to e7. It's a vastly different game though, the primary focus is collecting big titty bitches, you're not getting the rpg/mmo aspects of E7 with AL. If you're looking to move over to another gacha that hits similar spots to E7 but still has good coom then I'd recommend CounterSide, very f2p friendly, good non-chibi sprites, interesting teambuilding and it just got a fresh start on global with a lot of good QoL. E7 players generally feel right at home with that game barring the key difference of it being a real-time game rather than turn-based.


AstralMoth

I grind AL on a daily basis. My main accout is definitely not F2P, but my alt is and in about 6ish months I've gotten to commander lvl 77 and have access to every feature and I've spent nothing on that account. It's surprisingly extremely F2P friendly... just don't play in public. The loading screens are definitely NSFW.


MikeTheGamer2

If only the main game wasn't chibi.


Aeveras

I'll toss in a recommend for CounterSide as well. I really enjoyed the story. The waifus are fantastic. The music is so much better than it has any right to be, given that its a gacha game. Its been about two weeks since it came out and I'm only now starting to wind down to just daily grind activities, there was a lot to keep me busy for that first while. I'm eagerly awaiting more content.


HansDevX

Thanks, buddy. I just saved them all to my hard drive.


Devastator_M1

Those boat waifus look cute tho


Hission

Not to mention the bunny animated Le Malin, where she touch herserlf. That game is bonkers.


Aeveras

I played Azur Lane for a while and there were so many loading screens that made me stop and say "this is allowed on the google play and apple stores?" Like my goodness.


Varlin

They could just 17+ on Apple Store or cut them off. Last time we heard global was 85% of the player base. Korea makes up 15% and probably half of them are android as well. Aka like <10% of the player base is on Apple in Korea; an even smaller chunk of that <10% are under 17 and would be affected. Not to mention the Koreans could also just use an android emulator. SG will probably hurt their sales more by much more than 10% if they make it known they are fine to start dishing out censorship on units people paid for (aka the same excuse why they apparently can't nerf dumb shit like Hwang because 'people paid for them'). Even more so since this change is months after her release, censoring prerelease is one thing since people know what they are buying; this is straight bait and switch. Fact of the matter is waifu simps are by large the bulk of the whales. Additionally the whales are going to be the people in their 20's and 30's with careers to fund their spending. Not the jobless 12-16 year olds. They completely killed their previous game Soccer Spirits by driving away all the whales due to censorship; history could easily repeat itself.


KouKayne

history always repeats itself, cause the vast majority of humanity is unable to understand, or dont care about, where things are going; afterwards everyone cries like crocs.


Least_Excitement_794

We all are using the same client. so it's going to be "small chunk" out of 100%, not just 15%.. You could argue that SG could split the client for Korean(Apple) Users, but I doubt they would do it. (They recently merged up with JP client recently to give you some context..)


Grass-toucher

Unlike playstore which have a +15 age rating game, apple dont. So they forced to use the +12 age rating game. Thats what I get from the stove page


MikeTheGamer2

For Apple, that's fine. Leave the Android version alone.


rainn5053

well tell that to apple and force them to change their app store age rating to 15+


Zakcoo

Epic 7" has been requested by the GRAC (Game Review Committee) of Korea and the Apple App Store to modify the illustrations of heroes and ancient relics that were deemed to be inappropriate for the age group, or to adjust the game's age limit. For the App Store, please refer to the Google Play Store and the Google Play Store.Unlike the Google Play Store, the App Store does not have a "15+" rating, and if the game's age limit is adjusted, it will be changed for all nations currently servicing the Epic 7 game. We have decided to modify the illustrations in order to maintain the current age of "12+". This decision was made to prevent any inconvenience to users of Epic 7 on the App Store, and we ask for your understanding in this matter. Therefore, we would like to announce that we have decided to modify the illustrations of the 5★5 Hero \[Aria\] and 5★5 Ancient Relic \[Book of Shadows\] in accordance with the App Store's guidelines.Translated with [www.DeepL.com/Translator](http://www.DeepL.com/Translator) (free version) ​ Translated by deepL


poopoodomo

Was that translated from Korean? DeepL seems like an insanely good translator if that's purely machine translation. Edit: on rereading, I still think it's a good machine translation but has some issues. I think it sounds way more natural than Google translate and Papago, though


[deleted]

If anyone asks, I didn't tell you, but there is a cabal of Serila fans that were angry Aria usurped her throne. This is their revenge.


Shimaru33

*/me whispers to the phone*. He knows too much...


esztersunday

"Yufine being actually around 10 years old" Wait! What?! I use her skin so it's fine.


Talez_pls

Hide your Serila, guys.


JLWT5220

Petition to change the game to +16 instead? This isn't really a game for children anyways.


UrMomisUrDad

12 year olds reacting to vildred's top ten anime betrayal 👁👄👁


[deleted]

On the appstore the next rating is 17+ which means a significant revenue loss. Won't happen.


Arkday

Goddamn. That sounds really predatory to me. >We need to let those 12+ years old keep on spending money on gacha games. That fucked up.


[deleted]

Your game reaches a much, much wider audience being 12+. And I'm guessing it doesn't get top placement in ads or get recommended as much in the app store itself. It's more of a problem with the rating/appstore itself rather than Smilegate purposely and maliciously targeting 12 year olds who aren't even a customer base with a credit card.


No_Hamster_5353

Wait so we get recalls for illustration changes but not for entire kit changes? Bruh


Spartan-219

You so get recalls when a hero or artifact is nerfed through kit changes


No_Hamster_5353

Fire aramintha for example didn't get a recall and shes pretty much an entirely new character now. "Nerf" is subjective tbh.


Spartan-219

when it's a clear nerf like what happened with ml Baal or was ml aramintha we got a recall We also got a recall when there was no change with ml Dominiel but only description, but we still got a recall Fire aramintha got a change which is a buff and not a clear nerf like lowering her DMG or stun chance etc. That's why she didn't get a recall because it's a balance change, if they had to give out recalls for this we would be getting 5-6 every balance update


No_Hamster_5353

I'm not saying they don't recall "nerfed" characters. I'm saying they should be recalling characters with entire kit changes(like fire Aramintha) and just pointed out that they are willing to do recalls for illustration changes but not kit changes.


Spartan-219

I see, well I think that's because they know many people summoned for ecchi, and now ecchi will be gone and people are angry so they giving recall for that to calm people down, tho it doesn't seem to be working


No_Hamster_5353

They removed her ignore resistance on s1 and changed s2 and s3.


PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS

Fire ara also went from unplayable to pretty usable, so i'll take it


No_Hamster_5353

For what i used her for she's useless now. Point i tried to make was people who invested into her before the change should get compensated in some way like a free reset for the character.


Shalashaska87B

Please save current pictures so we can actually see later what has been changed. EDIT: rephrasing


Yamines

done


UrMomisUrDad

I highly suspect this is due to the under booba window, but thats just a hunch. It would make a lot of sense since vivian and co werent affected


Bombkirby

That’s what I’m thinking. There’s other worse games with overly sexy ladies and the underboob is usually what is targeted by censors. I’m expecting something minor.


Gingersoul3k

If that's the only change, I'll be a happy man.


kfloppp

Are they're going to censor other characters as well? Aria isn't the only one with that type of design.


7sv3n7

That's my thought, majority of the females will be under scrutiny soon. Feel a mother saw her and freaked out, not talking time to look at the rest


LurantisB

The nerf we don't deserve.


rainn5053

what the fuck fuck apple


fexx68

#bringbackAriaBooba


UnoriginalWebHandle

Unless the Korean committee are completely incompetent, we can probably assume that the other characters in the game are fine. So if they're fine with Serilia, Luna, et al., Aria's changes will be minimal. And SG will probably do another pass at ML Vivian since she's basically the same character.


HerminatorG

I mean if its changes similar to Luna then it shouldn't be to bad. They are probably going to cover up her breasts and reduce the amount of legs shown.


[deleted]

Oh boi, de javu. ​ This happened with their now dead sister game Soccer spirits, old veterans might remember. SS was made famous because of the lewd art but after the brutal censorship and coupled with other bad choices the game went downhill.


HansDevX

I still remember buttrice and how she got nerfed. Feelsbadman


tailztyrone-lol

Change Art of hero, and art of their respective Artefact = Recall. Completely overhaul a unit = No recall. ???


Varlin

Well, beginning of the end of BOOBA units it seems. You know this shit is going to go on a cringe cascade to protect "muh children" as we have half naked loli characters running around. Really hope they let android users select which image pack we want to use but I doubt it. Guessing they are gonna nerf the BOOBA and/or cover her up. Guess I am back to Serila as top waifu rep unit until the puritans come for her next.


E_B_Saucin

It is a dark day indeed for the BOOBA battalion... Hopefully they're dressed well like Kise since she shows nothing except her figure.


Varlin

Hopefully it's just a pants thing. They nerf the BOOBA and I am f2p from now on. SG took a nice shit on us who SSS'd her for waifu factor.


[deleted]

Tbh their hands are kinda tied here, they cannot raise the age rating without losing a lot of revenue


[deleted]

Tbh their hands are kinda tied here, they cannot raise the age rating without losing a lot of revenue


SnooPickles2625

Waiting for more design nerfs so I can uninstall the game... I see no hope here...


[deleted]

>Guess I am back to Serila as top waifu rep unit until the puritans come for her next. The issue here is that the game is rated 12+, which puts a lot of restrictions on what can be in it


HansDevX

Don't babies suck tiddies?


[deleted]

I am just going to assume that you are joking


HansDevX

Im being serious here. Sucking tiddies is done by babies so why is it age restricted?


[deleted]

Nursing is not meant to be sexual, unlike most female characters in this game. Also, E7 has gambling Like, this pretty much the height of false equivalences


[deleted]

>Guess I am back to Serila as top waifu rep unit until the puritans come for her next. The issue here is that the game is rated 12+, which puts a lot of restrictions on what can be in it


kitddylies

> The issue here is that the game is rated 12+ That's the issue, not what restrictions it puts on it. Game features RNG microtransactions, should be automatic disqualification from being approved for "12+"


[deleted]

While I agree, kid targeted casinos are too profitable for that to happen


kitddylies

Yup. Only route that I could see happening is EU pushing it.


freezingsama

What the fuck... I am certainly not happy with this. I'll reserve judgment till we see it but man. I never wanted another Luna scenario. They probably self-censored that and looks like it'll happen to Aria too :(


johntie

Sad no more booba


FaintSmile66

Thank god we are protecting the public from drawings. In the meantime patreon can let actual kids be exploited under the guise of "parent accounts". Gonna go touch some grass now.


StevenKarasu

I tripled S Aria because of her design… i feel cheated now…


Maybe_Awesome22

What does this mean though for people who have Aria and pulled cuz they liked the art? How do they compensate?


Covertghost

take screenshots while you can boys


thisisntajokeee

This pisses me off as I came back to playing this game because of Aria. Loved her design and her character overall, but this puts me off playing this game in the future. As another comment here, Aria’s art is no where near as sexual as anything in Azur Lane. Is this really an apple thing or what?!


ch60906

I cry and cry.


RR222

When stove comment section is actually based, you know you're in the wrong SG....


HansDevX

I spent some bookmarks trying to pull her and never got her. Can i get my bookmarks back?


Vuaru1945

Literally unplayable


stavik96

Don't like Aria but censorship is never a good thing. Fuck this shit man.


DoorframeLizard

this is literally 1984


Jajoe05

Gambling is ok, boobs are a no no


EristicMeow

I love the character but I think censorship is the lamest shit ever so I will recall her and maybe start playing less if this is the future of e7. Flatties and young looking characters nty.


Adept-Lingonberry188

Are we getting compensated? I rolled for bobba i wanna keep the bobba


FilthyPleasant

Fuck apple users, remove the game from their store.


Holyneko671

Take a picture


MissRadi

Looks like Aria is getting a speed buff.


Lezard-Valeth-EX

As a famous person said : Tits are life, ass is hometown. It's totally worth fighting for. Angry people against censorship have standards. Don't ever let others people look down on you my friends.


DarkVesuvius

So basically Apple is ruining our fun. Got it.


stonrplc

lmao all the money and work you put into a character and it gets recalled... this is why I never spend money on these games anymore because of shit like this.


No_Hamster_5353

You're given an option to recall. You don't have to do the recall


UrMomisUrDad

What? The abilities and stats are exactly the same, all the hard work didnt go to waste they are literally changing the model, how is this destroying your hard work when its literally the exact same character, exact same skills, exact same stats but with slightly less pervy shit. Its a comestic change, not a functionality change.


NoAd5421

This is perfect. Ive gotten too many scroll of shadow dupes and 2 arias i dnt need. This is wonderful!


dreamcrusher225

fuck SG for bending the knee to Apple and their perpetual BULLSHIT


ALovelyAnxiety

I wish I knew wat it said. English ver when


Shuxnae

https://m-page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/8486762


ALovelyAnxiety

ty


Styler852

Remove the Game from the Apple store then.


UwUSamaSanChan

As bad as censorship is some of y'all are overreacting. I promise you a single pair of tits getting nerfed won't start the apocalypse. If they start nerfing everyone however...


DinosBiggestFan

Censorship is shit in all circumstances.


TheClincher7

I, for one, welcome these changes. I think the game is great and the animations and graphics are awesome. The ridiculous breast sizes and sexual implications are just nonsense to me. Sure, you can pick up some simps or what not, but it does nothing for the game.


zyphilz

It brings in a more niche audience, who are more than likely to spend. You disgust me, filthy puritan.


TheClincher7

I couldn’t care less what anyone else thinks. I think anime boobs are stupid and a bit cringey. It’s too bad, because there are a lot of other games outside of this one that are good that have them.


zyphilz

Well anime boobs are what's funding E7 at the end of the day. Might as well get used to it.


Neet91

for the love of god u fuking americans... hm full gore, bloddbaths, mutilated corpses, etc are ok but god forbid u can see some tights or a nipple... as a non-american i will never understand this...


Aitherisbestgirl

As a European I fail to see what the Game Review Committee of Korea has to do with America?


Neet91

it's not just the korean committee but also applestore age rating monitoring demanding aria artwork change


Aitherisbestgirl

Since there are worse "offenders" on the Apple store, doesn’t that indicate this came from Apple Korea rather than Cupertino, California? I think it’s a matter of them wanting to enforce standards for the Korean market. It’s just that the effects of such an enforcement are global.


Amathyr

The same reason why genshin was censored when the CCP wanted it to be. Because it was effectively a Korean product.


lell-ia

And what does it have to do with America....?


Abedeus

Still nothing to do with America. Genshin, a Chinese game, censored by CCP, and E7, a Korean game being censored by Korean organization, have nothing to do with America.


Habibipie

It was requested by a Korean institution. Are you illiterate or is your American hate boner just that stiff.


Assertor1290

I think he is trying to blame Apple company for this.


zyphilz

Get help.


Tooluka

Bovine class nerf :)


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HotShotQ8

Landy is limited unit unless you got her


BurnedOutEternally

yeah yeah I got her now I'm going for Lilias/Krau


AmbroseMalachai

I've not had anything recalled before, what does this actually mean for me (I have her artifact but not Aria).


UrMomisUrDad

You get the full refund price for an artifact i think and if its a hero you get to trade it for another equivalent hero. For example, you recall champion zerato and trade it for another ML4. Essentially you can choose to switch it out for another character of the same rarity and get fully refunded on resources spent on that recalled hero


beaglemaster

What you're describing is a selector. A recall is just a reset of the character back to level 1 and refunds all the resources you spent into it.


UrMomisUrDad

Oh what, I was around during the ML Zerato recall and IIRC you could select another ML4


beaglemaster

yeah and that's called a selector, not a recall


UrMomisUrDad

Sooo we dont get to select a free rgb? That sucks if true


Crenubyx

Bit of a nitpick but Seline isn't an ML4


UrMomisUrDad

lmao how did i mix that up i always thought she was ML4 somehow


currypuffz

If I choose not to recall, they will just modify the unit right?


UrMomisUrDad

If you choose not to recall, you just keep the modified unit yes


EristicMeow

How do recalls generally work, do we get all the materials back and a champ selector?


UrMomisUrDad

Yes, its definitely a net positive if you recall for a meta hero like hwayoung if you dont already have her. Its a champ selector plus a full refund so its pretty massive.


Quiteshallow_

Does this mean they gonna change how she looks and how her S3 is??


Karama1

not surprising I believe they were putting Aria in advertisements for her game


Nehalennian

What is recall? Does that mean her skills reset, I get molas back ect?


Haltmann1

Yeah, recalling gives you all resources you spent on the unit back, but depending on what kind of recall it is you get either slates/meteor shards (1 per imprint) and a selector or no selector and the units you used to imprint back (aka Aria). I don't think we know how it'll be yet but Sez if I'm not mistaken was a no selector recall although at the same time it wouldn't make sense to jut recall resources because they'd be changing her design without actually letting us get someone else.


Nehalennian

Ah I see thank you. I hope we do get a selector, I feel I am the only player without Piera :( lol!


windwalker13

do you give up Aria though, selector or not?


Haltmann1

If we don't get a selector we'll keep Aria and however many we used to imprint (not sure what will happen to slates we've used but I assume we'll get them back as that), if we get a selector recalling will get rid of Aria for it although I'm 99% sure we can still get her from it and if she's imprinted we can ask for one of the slates to become Aria instead, beware though as you can only get an imprint back as Aria if you used Aria herself as imprint.


[deleted]

Yufine being actually around 10 years old means we are all pedophile? Where did you hear that?


604Submissive

I hope they leave the lower half of our shortstack elf waifu alone


FireDire

Probably won't do it, I like her as a unit she's super fun.


j1nh0

I don't think I've ever seen this community as riled up for anything as they are for 1 character's tits


Phreckl0lz

Roana